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    Unchained

    Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world.

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    Bitcoin Ordinal NFTs Are Hot and Getting Hotter. What's the Hype About? - Ep. 462 Mar 03, 2023
    Show notes

    Muneeb Ali, co-creator of Stacks, discusses the Bitcoin trend that has everyone – or at least, many Bitcoiners – buzzing: Bitcoin ordinals. Ali explains why it is that they’ve taken up block space, pushed Bitcoin fees higher, and caused controversy in the community. Plus, he explains why the phenomenon has generated excitement about Stacks.


    Show highlights:

    • how Ordinals technology works to enable NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain
    • the difference between NFTs in smart contracts platforms like Ethereum vs. NFTs in Bitcoin
    • the way in which the Taproot upgrade allowed Ordinals technology to exist
    • what security measures to take in order to protect one’s Bitcoin NFTs
    • why the Bitcoin maxi community reacted negatively to Ordinals
    • why Stacks jumped so much in price after the release of Ordinals
    • what Muneeb thinks is the significance of Yuga Labs launching NFTs on Bitcoin


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    Guest

    Muneeb Ali, co-creator of Stacks

    • Twitter
    • Previous appearance on Unchained: Blockstack On Getting Independence From Google, Facebook And Amazon


    Links

    • Unchained: BAYC Creator Yuga Labs to Launch Bitcoin Ordinal NFTs
    • Decrypt:What Are Ordinals? A Beginner's Guide to Bitcoin NFTs
    • Dune: Ordinals - Inscriptions on Bitcoin

    Episodes about Bitcoin mentioned in the show:

    • Does Maximalism Help or Hurt Bitcoin? Lyn Alden and Udi Wertheimer Debate
    • Eric Wall and Udi Wertheimer on Why Bitcoin Maximalism Is ‘Like a Shitcoin Community’
    • Is Bitcoin Doomed to Fail? Eric Wall and Justin Bons Face Off



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    Have Crypto Detectives Killed the Cypherpunk Dream? - Ep. 461 Feb 28, 2023
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    Andy Greenberg, senior writer for WIRED and author of “Tracers in the Dark,” takes us inside the world of crypto-tracing crimebusters and voices the ambivalence of Bitcoin – a cypherpunk creation – eroding financial privacy. Hear how the longtime crypto scribe got law enforcement and sleuthing firms like Chainalysis to open up about their major wins in taking down darknet kingpins.



    Show highlights:

    • why Andy thought early on that Bitcoin would enable crypto anarchy
    • how blockchain analytics started being used to tackle crime
    • why the IRS Criminal Investigation unit was more open to discussing its techniques
    • how Andy learned many new things about already well-known stories when writing about them for the book
    • the methods used to bring down the “biggest dark-web drug lord” in history
    • did AlphaBay’s Alexandre Cazes really kill himself in a Thai prison?
    • how researcher Sarah Meiklejohn developed tools to deanonymize Bitcoin
    • why she’s now uncomfortable that her techniques were adopted by Chainalysis and sold to law enforcement
    • what Andy feels about the importance of privacy
    • how Monero is harder to trace than Bitcoin but not untraceable
    • what the impact of zero-knowledge technology will be for blockchain analytics firms
    • whether the cypherpunk ethos is dead
    • why the mystery of Satoshi Nakamoto’s identity will never die




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    Guest

    Andy Greenberg, senior writer for WIRED and author of “Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency”

    • Twitter
    • Writings for WIRED
    • Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency

    Links:

    • WIRED:
    • The Hunt for the Kingpin Behind AlphaBay, Part 1: The Shadow
    • The Hunt for the Kingpin Behind AlphaBay, Part 2: Pimp_alex_91
    • The Hunt for the Kingpin Behind AlphaBay, Part 3: Alpha Male
    • De-Anonymization in Bitcoin with Sarah Meiklejohn | a16z crypto research talks
    • Wikipedia: Welcome to Video case


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    Is Asia Going to Lead the Next Bull Run? - Ep. 460 Feb 24, 2023
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    Emily Parker, CoinDesk’s executive director of global content, joins the show to discuss the Asian crypto markets. From Hong Kong to Tokyo, Parker sees bullish signs in recent developments. Hear why she thinks China and Japan are closely watching as the U.S. clamps down on the crypto industry.

    Show highlights:

    • how Hong Kong is trying to create a regulated environment for crypto
    • whether Beijing and Chinese officials support Hong Kong’s initiative
    • what was China’s motivation to make it harder to buy and hold crypto
    • whether Asian countries will lead the next bull run
    • what the crypto environment looks like in Japan and how it differs from the U.S.
    • how Japan responded to major crypto hacks and meltdowns
    • what Japan is doing in terms of stablecoin regulation and adoption
    • how Japanese authorities are trying to establish guidelines for DAOs
    • whether people in Asia have different attitudes and views toward crypto and investing in general



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    Guest

    Emily Parker, executive director of global content at CoinDesk.

    • Twitter
    • Previous appearance on Unchained: Crypto in China: What It Really Looks Like

    Links

    • CoinDesk:
    • Japan Embraces Web3 As Global Regulators Grow Wary of Crypto
    • FTX Japan Customers Can Begin Withdrawing Fiat, Crypto on Feb. 21
    • WSJ: Some FTX Customers Can Withdraw Their Money—in Japan, at Least
    • Bloomberg:
    • Hong Kong’s Crypto Hub Ambitions Win Quiet Backing From Beijing - Bloomberg
    • Hong Kong Plans to Let Retail Sector Trade Larger Crypto Tokens Like Bitcoin
    • Crypto Mogul Sun Says Huobi Betting China Will Warm to Digital Assets as Exchange Targets Hong Kong
    • Hong Kong to Establish Task Force to Help Develop Crypto Hub
    • US Crypto Crackdown Boosts Appeal of Dubai, Hong Kong, Europe

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    The Chopping Block: The Inside Story of How Blur Toppled NFT Giant OpenSea - Ep. 459 Feb 22, 2023
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    Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, it’s time for a case study: Special guest Pacman, founder of Blur, explains how his upstart NFT marketplace fought OpenSea and won.


    Show highlights:

    • what it’s like to launch a token
    • why Blur was created and what its strategy was for competing with OpenSea
    • why royalties remain a lightning rod in the NFT community
    • how Blur designed its liquidity mining program and the lesson learned from failed designs
    • the reasons why Blur succeeded in the NFT marketplace environment
    • Pacman’s reaction to OpenSea’s decision to not enforce royalties
    • why forking the Blur code won’t work for new marketplace competitors
    • why the NFT market remained strong in the depths of a bear market
    • why Pacman thinks AMMs for NFTs won’t work
    • whether the “death of royalties” is good or bad for the ecosystem




    Hosts

    • Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly
    • Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures
    • Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
    • Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly

    Guest

    Pacman, founder of Blur

    • Twitter

    Disclosures

    Previous coverage on NFT royalties:

    • The Chopping Block: Two on Two Debate: NFT Royalty Throwdown!
    • Are NFT Royalties the Way? How to Build a Sustainable Creator Economy

    Links

    • Dune: Blur VS OpenSea
    • Blog post: How to earn royalties on Blur
    • OpenSea’s response
    • Unchained:
    • OpenSea Eliminates Marketplace Fee, Makes Creator Royalties Optional
    • Blur Airdrops 360M Tokens to NFT Traders

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    Just a Coincidence? Coinbase and Polygon Lawyers See Bad Omens in SEC Crackdown - Ep. 458 Feb 21, 2023
    Show notes

    A settlement with Kraken, a proposed custody rule, and lawsuits against Paxos and Terraform Labs. “This week has been a very long year,” said Polygon Labs Chief Policy Officer Rebecca Rettig. She joins Coinbase Chief Legal Officer Paul Grewal to interpret what’s going on with the SEC. Is it just one big push to cripple the crypto industry? “The fact that we’re all … trying to read tea leaves speaks to a failure in the system that relies upon one-off enforcement actions rather than a public rulemaking process,” said Grewal.


    Show highlights:

    • how the implosion of FTX sped up regulatory actions
    • whether the SEC will go after other staking services
    • why the statement that crypto firms should just register with the SEC is “disingenuous”
    • what seems to be behind the decision to target the BUSD stablecoin
    • whether SEC enforcement actions will be detrimental to innovation in the U.S.
    • what features would make stablecoins securities
    • why the SEC is alleging that the UST stablecoin is a security
    • why “expansion of jurisdiction” is at the heart of the SEC’s proposed crypto custody rules
    • why Paul thinks that forcing crypto innovation offshore could become a national security issue for the U.S.



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    Guests:

    Paul Grewal, Chief Legal Officer at Coinbase:

    • Twitter


    Rebecca Rettig, Chief Policy Officer at Polygon Labs:

    • Twitter



    Links

    • WIRED:Confusion Spirals in Crypto as the US Cracks Down
    • Unchained:
    • Circle Told NYDFS That Paxos-Issued BUSD Wasn’t Fully Backed
    • SEC Wants Tougher Rules for Crypto Custody
    • SEC Sues Do Kwon and Terraform Labs
    • WSJ:
    • Crypto Firm Paxos Faces SEC Lawsuit Over Binance USD Token
    • Regulator Orders Crypto Firm Paxos to Stop Issuing Binance Stablecoin
    • Bloomberg:US Crackdown Seeks to Push Crypto Back to the Fringes of Finance
    • SEC:
    • Pocketful of Quarters, Inc.
    • Statement on Safeguarding Advisory Client Assets Proposal
    • CoinDesk: SEC Proposal Could Bar Investment Advisers From Keeping Assets at Crypto Firms
    • Jesse Powell’s tweet

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    Is Gary Gensler on a Mission to Put Crypto Down for Good? - Ep. 457 Feb 17, 2023
    Show notes

    Mike Selig, counsel at Willkie Farr, has plenty to talk about this week, with a slew of actions from Gary Gensler’s SEC putting the future of crypto in the U.S. in question. From Kraken’s custodial staking settlement to action against BUSD issuer Paxos, the former CFTC law clerk voices concern that coordination among regulators could choke off the industry’s growth. Hear how Selig thinks Gensler’s SEC is working to bring crypto markets “within the regulatory perimeter.”


    Show highlights:

    • whether regulators are using the FTX case to go against crypto as a whole
    • what likely caused the NYDFS action against Paxos for BUSD
    • whether there’s a coordinated effort to undermine the crypto markets
    • how issuers could argue that stablecoins aren’t securities
    • why there are limited implications for staking as a whole after Kraken’s SEC settlement
    • how the regulators are “discouraging access and participation in crypto markets at the banking level”
    • the differences between Gary Gensler’s SEC and that of his predecessor, Jay Clayton
    • how the Gensler administration is skeptical of governance and DAOs
    • why the SEC’s crypto custody rule proposal is refreshing, albeit not perfect



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    Guest

    Mike Selig, counsel at Willkie Farr

    • Twitter


    Links

    • Unchained:
    • Circle Told NYDFS That Paxos-Issued BUSD Wasn’t Fully Backed
    • SEC Wants Tougher Rules for Crypto Custody
    • CoinDesk: SEC Proposal Could Bar Investment Advisers From Keeping Assets at Crypto Firms
    • WSJ: Crypto Firm Paxos Faces SEC Lawsuit Over Binance USD Token
    • Regulator Orders Crypto Firm Paxos to Stop Issuing Binance Stablecoin - WSJ
    • The Block: SEC action against Paxos paints regulatory target on stablecoins
    • Tom Wan on the ramifications of Paxos being ordered to stop issuing BUSD
    • Bloomberg: US Crackdown Seeks to Push Crypto Back to the Fringes of Finance



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    The Chopping Block: The SEC Is Attacking Crypto – Will Gary Gensler Succeed? - Ep. 456 Feb 15, 2023
    Show notes

    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, Polygon Chief Legal Officer Marc Boiron joins the show to examine the SEC’s recent enforcement ramp-up.

    • why Marc thinks NYDFS coming after Paxos is the most interesting thing to analyze in the SEC-BUSD spat
    • whether the SEC and NYDFS actions against Paxos were coordinated
    • whether a stablecoin is a security and why the SEC might be inclined to go after Paxos
    • how a stablecoin could resemble a money market fund
    • whether the SEC action against BUSD consolidates Tether's dominance
    • why Robert is nervous about the ramifications of the Paxos situation for all of crypto
    • the unique characteristics of Kraken's staking services that led to settlement with the SEC
    • the meaning of the settlement for other custodial staking services and staking in general
    • why Robert voted in favor of the Uniswap governance proposal
    • why Haseeb is fine with how a16z voted in the proposal
    • how on-chain governance should be approached


    Hosts

    • Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital
    • Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
    • Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital

    Guest

    Marc Boiron, chief legal officer at Polygon


    Links


    Disclosures


    BUSD shutdown

    • WSJ:
    • Crypto Firm Paxos Faces SEC Lawsuit Over Binance USD Token
    • Regulator Orders Crypto Firm Paxos to Stop Issuing Binance Stablecoin
    • The Block: Gensler: SEC has been 'clear' on cryptocurrencies
    • Unchained: Circle Told NYDFS That Paxos-Issued BUSD Wasn’t Fully Backed


    SEC vs. Staking

    Ethereum ETH Staking Deposits

    Kraken to Discontinue Unregistered Offer and Sale of Crypto Asset Staking-As-A-Service Program and Pay $30 Million to Settle SEC Charges

    Coinbase’s staking services are not securities. And here's why. - Blog

    Uniswap governance drama

    • Unchained episode on the topic: Chris Blec on Why He Believes a16z’s Uniswap Vote Exposes DeFi as a Farce - Ep. 454
    • Wormhole vs. LayerZero posts
    • Wormhole
    • LayerZero
    • Explanation video from Unchained

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    How This Prosecutor Is Spearheading the Fight Against Crypto ‘Pig Butchering’ Scams - Ep. 455 Feb 14, 2023
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    Erin West, Deputy District Attorney of California’s Santa Clara County, has heard firsthand tales of scammers preying on victims for hundreds of thousands of dollars. She joins the show to explain the scamming technique known as “pig butchering,” how it is estimated to have raked in tens of billions worldwide, and why it has led to suicide in some cases. West makes the case for why victims need empathy and how law enforcement is working with exchanges to claw back scammed funds.


    Show highlights:

    • Erin’s background and how she started investigating crypto crimes
    • what exactly the “pig butchering” method entails — and why it’s called that
    • what kind of people scammers are targeting
    • the devastating stories that have arisen from these crypto scams
    • fresh intel on where the fraudsters are located
    • whether the scammers may be connected to foreign governments
    • how the victims are often turned away by U.S. law enforcement agencies
    • how Erin’s agency was able to return almost $1 million to victims late last year
    • what local agencies can do to address these problems
    • how law enforcement agencies around the U.S. are lacking crypto education
    • the workshops Erin has been leading to help such agencies get educated
    • the relatively low number of NFT-related scams her agency has dealt with so far
    • what Erin recommends for victims of “pig butchering” scams


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    Links


    SIM Swaps and Pig Butchering scams:


    Forbes: Hackers Have Stolen Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoin -- Using Only Phone Numbers

    WIRED: What Is a Pig Butchering Scam?


    Podcast on Indian telemarketing scams: Chameleon: Scam Likely — Campside Media


    Guests:

    Erin:

    • LinkedIn

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    Chris Blec on Why He Believes a16z’s Uniswap Vote Exposes DeFi as a Farce - Ep. 454 Feb 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris Blec, DeFi researcher and founder of the Blec Report, explains why he believes the involvement of Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) in a contentious Uniswap governance proposal flies in the face of crypto’s core value: decentralization. He argues that the venture capital firm’s ability to potentially sway the vote in favor of a portfolio company undermines claims that DeFi is “people-powered.” The vote, which is not yet concluded, is the latest venue for people to debate the merits of DeFi governance and whether one token really should equal one vote.


    Show highlights:

    • why a16z decided to vote against a key section of the Uniswap governance proposal
    • the problem Chris sees with the current design of DAOs
    • whether there is a parallel to be drawn between TradFi and DAO governance
    • why Chris says people are mistaken when they think about the goals of crypto VC
    • whether the fact that some VCs control so much voting power goes against the ethos of decentralization
    • how Chris thinks VCs are funding lobbyist groups to push for their interests, not those of crypto as a whole
    • why Chris believes the "one token, one vote" system doesn't work
    • some alternatives that could be pursued to help the issue of whale token voting
    • whether regulators will come after DAOs and especially the ones that are using current governance mechanisms





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    Guest

    Chris Blec, DeFi researcher and founder of the Blec Report

    • Twitter
    • Tweet about token voting
    • Tweet about engaging with a16z

    Links

    • Unchained: Does a16z Control Uniswap?
    • CoinDesk: Contentious Uniswap Vote Highlights the Opaqueness of Decentralized Governance

    Related Twitter threads:

    • From Eddy Lazzarin
    • From Defi Ignas
    • From Abdullah Umar
    • From Philipp Zentner
    • From Macro Mate
    • From Adam Cochran

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    Everything You Need to Know About Filing Your 2022 Crypto Taxes - Ep. 453 Feb 07, 2023
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    Lawrence Zlatkin, VP of Tax at Coinbase, and Shehan Chandrasekera, Head of Tax Strategy at CoinTracker, give a full accounting of everything U.S. crypto traders should be aware of as we inch closer to April 18. The two tax experts discuss the latest on how the IRS is approaching crypto taxation, going deep on everything from staking rewards to NFT royalties. Just a heads up: This interview is meant for informational purposes only and should not be construed as financial or tax advice.



    Show highlights:

    • what’s new this year when it comes to reporting crypto transactions
    • why staking is now firmly on the IRS’s radar
    • how capital gains tax works for crypto
    • the types of crypto transactions that are taxable as income
    • the five situations where a crypto user incurs a taxable event
    • the types of crypto activity that are not taxable
    • what crypto holders can do to make tax time easier
    • the IRS forms you need for various types of crypto transactions
    • typical mistakes that crypto users make when it comes to filing their taxes
    • why there’s not much you can do if you have assets stuck in Voyager, Celsius or other bankrupt crypto firms
    • why you might consider arguing a “theft loss deduction”
    • what to know about the Ethereum Merge as it relates to taxes
    • things NFT creators should be aware of during tax time
    • how the U.S. tax system can or cannot be applied to DeFi
    • what tax forms you can expect to receive if you’re a Coinbase customer
    • how corporations holding crypto may soon see favorable changes to current accounting rules
    • why $5,000 is a key threshold for crypto donations



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    Links


    Previous coverage of crypto taxes on Unchained:

    • Your 2021 Crypto Taxes: How to Handle NFTs, DAOs, Airdrops and More
    • Everything You Need to Know About Your 2020 Crypto Taxes
    • Why You Shouldn't Trust Crypto Exchange Reports for Your Taxes
    • The IRS Is Cracking Down on Crypto Taxes: What You Need to Know


    Guests:

    Shehan:

    • Twitter
    • CoinTracker

    Lawrence:

    • Twitter


    Links:

    • Digital Assets | Internal Revenue Service
    • IRS CCA 202302012 (Crypto charitable donations)
    • IRS CCA 202302011 (Coins which have substantially lost in value. Ex: Luna)
    • MiCA – Overview of the New EU Crypto-Asset Regulatory Framework (Part 1) | HUB | K&L Gates
    • CNBC:President Joe Biden to sign the bipartisan infrastructure bill⁠ into law—here's how crypto investors will be impacted
    • S&P Global:What the US infrastructure bill means for cryptocurrency brokers and owners

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