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Bits + Bips: Why It's Time for Crypto Traders to Be Patient - Ep. 782 Feb 12, 2025

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Crypto markets are at a crossroads. Is Ethereum primed for a short squeeze, or is its dominance fading? Are the SOL unlocks a real risk, or is the panic overblown? And did we already have an alt season without realizing it?

In this episode, hosts James Seyffart, Alex Kruger and Ram Ahluwalia sit down with Sal Ternullo, managing partner at A100x Ventures, to break down the biggest questions facing traders today. They discuss whether Trump’s tariffs are impacting ETH, why the market might be misreading SOL’s unlocks, and how traders keep falling into the same traps—losing money despite crypto’s explosive gains.

They also debate the real reason altcoins haven’t performed as expected, why memecoins might finally be dying off, and what the Growth Value Ratio reveals about the market’s future. Plus: the implications of Elon Musk’s bid for OpenAI, and whether Arweave’s AO can seriously challenge ICP.

Show highlights:

3:33 - Why Ram likes what Trump is trying to accomplish with the tariffs
10:35 - Why ETH got hit so hard with the tariffs and whether there’s a squeeze coming
15:24 - Whether the market will see an alt season
21:47 - Why Sal believes that the SOL unlocks are not a big deal and why he’d like to see a shift away from memecoins
25:09 - Why Ram thinks that crypto markets don’t have a clear narrative in the near future
27:28 - Why Alex is concerned about the SOL unlocks
32:19 - What the growth value ratio is teaching us about the state of the markets
40:59 - How the potential Kanye West memecoins is another example of why Sal doesn’t like this space
46:39 - Whether Arweave’s new project AO can compete with ICP
48:04 - How Elon Musk is running so many projects, plus bidding for OpenAI
55:26 - James’ analysis on the likelihood of various crypto ETFs being approved
1:03:01 - Why Alex thinks this is the perfect time to “be patient” in the markets

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Hosts:

James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard
Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida

Guest:

Sal Ternullo, Managing Partner at A100x Ventures

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Why the Founders of Aave and Sky Are Still Bullish on Ethereum DeFi - Ep. 781 Feb 11, 2025

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Despite the ups and downs of the Ethereum ecosystem, two of its most influential builders—Aave’s Stani Kulechov and Sky’s Rune Christensen—remain bullish.

In this episode, they discuss whether we’re witnessing a DeFi renaissance, the challenges of building on Ethereum vs. Solana, and why DeFi adoption isn’t growing as fast as some expected. They debate stablecoins, whether Solana is truly innovating, and how AI could transform DeFi by automating governance and risk management.

They also respond to some hot takes—including whether Aave is falling behind Solana-based Kamino, and why Sky deployed its USDS stablecoin on Solana despite Rune’s long-standing Ethereum advocacy.

Show highlights:

02:33 Whether Sky and Aave are experiencing a “DeFi renaissance”
11:49 How Stani and Rune are trying to appeal to a simpler audience
23:00 Whether developers overlook how easy it is to build DeFi on Ethereum
27:40 Why Stani believes there is not a lot of innovation in Solana
32:17 What would need to happen for Aave to be in Solana
33:27 Why Sky deployed USDS on Solana
40:30 Whether the Ethereum ecosystem should be worried about users going to other chains
49:19 Why Rune praises Solana’s culture
51:38 How USDS’s growth on Base happens organically, contrary to Solana
59:35 Why they believe that the combination of AI and DeFi will be so powerful

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Guest:

Stani Kulechov, Founder and CEO of Aave
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Stani Kulechov on Why Aave Is So Successful - Unchained
The Chopping Block w/ Stani Kulechov: Operation Chokepoint 2.0, Ethereum Innovation Push, & Polymarket Whales - Unchained
Rune Christensen, Co-founder of Sky
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Can Maker’s Rune Christensen Fix the Sad State of DAO Governance?
Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 1: How to Keep a Crypto-Collateralized Stablecoin Afloat
Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 2: How Dai Stayed at $1 While ETH Crashed From $1,400 to $85
The Chopping Block: How to Manage MakerDAO, With Hasu and Rune
Rune Christensen of MakerDao on Its $15 Million From Andreessen Horowitz
Why It’s so Hard to Keep Stablecoins Stable

Links

Aave 2030 roadmap
Alex Svanevik of Nansen tweeted: “When Aave on Solana?”
Qiao Wang of Alliance DAO commenting on why he recommends people build on Solana
The First Non-EVM Deployment of Aave Protocol: Aave V3 on Aptos - General - Aptos Forum

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Did Washington Crush Crypto’s Most Important Bank? Its Former Chairman Says Yes. - Ep. 780 Feb 07, 2025

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Silvergate Bank was once crypto’s most important banking partner, handling billions in deposits from the biggest players in the industry. Then, FTX collapsed—and everything changed.

In this episode of Unchained, Mike Lempres, former chairman of Silvergate, talks about how Silvergate grew into a banking giant for crypto, why Washington suddenly turned against them—even after they survived the FTX crisis, and whether Operation Choke Point 2.0 was real.

Plus, did short sellers and politicians work together to tank Silvergate’s stock? And what does the future look like for banks that want to serve crypto?

This is part of the inside story of one of the biggest banking collapses in crypto history.

Show highlights:

2:08 How Mike’s background in banking led him to work in crypto
4:10 Why banking has always been a challenge for crypto companies
5:14 How Silvergate Bank got involved so much with the industry and how it achieved “tremendous growth”
8:10 The “magic” of the Silvergate Exchange Network (SEN)
14:19 Why Mike believes Silvergate’s problem was not banking regulators, but D.C. politics
17:49 How everything changed after the FTX collapse
24:45 Whether SEN is a valuable asset for a bank to have
28:39 Why Mike believes that Operation Choke Point 2.0 is real
30:48 Whether short sellers worked with politicians to tank Silvergate
34:21 How Mike thinks that banks could service the crypto industry

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Mike Lempres, Former Chairman of Silvergate Bank

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The Chopping Block: LA Vape Cabal, Market Meltdown, & SEC’s Crypto Pivot - Ep. 779 Feb 06, 2025

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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, we dissect the chaos triggered by Trump’s trade war, which sent Ethereum and alts into freefall while Bitcoin held strong. Why are alts struggling, and is this just a flight to quality—or something deeper? We also dive into the LA Vape Cabal phenomenon and its bizarre influence on memecoin culture, debate whether the SEC’s new leadership is truly a game-changer for crypto, and analyze Binance’s latest scandal. Plus, is the memecoin cycle really over, or is this just another phase in crypto’s endless casino?

Show highlights

🔹 Trump’s Trade War Wrecks Crypto – Ethereum and alts nosedive as Trump’s surprise tariffs shake markets. Is this just macro panic or a deeper shift in investor sentiment?

🔹 Biggest Liquidation Day Ever? – Crypto saw its largest mass liquidation in history, with Bybit’s CEO estimating real losses closer to $8-10 billion—more than the FTX collapse.

🔹 LA Vape Cabal & Memecoin Mania – A bizarre Twitch-fueled trading cult is shaping the memecoin meta. Is this the future of crypto speculation, or just another fleeting grift?

🔹 The Great Altcoin Capitulation – Alts are bleeding while Bitcoin holds strong. Has the market finally given up on everything that isn't BTC?

🔹 Hester Peirce’s Crypto Reset – The SEC’s new approach could rewrite the rules for token issuers. Will the industry finally get the regulatory clarity it’s been begging for?

🔹 Binance Under Fire (Again) – CZ’s former empire faces backlash over insider listings, alleged bribes, and a wave of vaporware projects that tanked after launch.

🔹 Pump.fun = The New NFT Casino? – Memecoin speculation is bigger than 2021’s NFT boom. But is it sustainable, or is the exit liquidity running dry?

🔹 The Memecoin Endgame? – Some claim the bubble has burst, but if history tells us anything, a new wave of degens will always find a way to keep the casino open.

🔹 Bitcoin’s Macro Dominance – BTC’s macro story is unstoppable, with talk of a U.S. sovereign wealth fund investing in Bitcoin. Will the market ever rotate back to alts?

Hosts

⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly

⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate

⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly

Disclosures

Links

Hester Peirce’s Blog Post – “The Journey Begins”: https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/speeches-statements/peirce-journey-begins-020425

David Sacks' Plan for Digital Assets Press Conference:

https://youtu.be/LqTsyTuLSSI

Timestamps

00:00 Intro
01:08 Market Turmoil and Trade Wars
07:10 Bitcoin's Dominance & Altcoin Struggles
10:33 Memecoins & Market Sentiment
25:05 Cultural Phenomena in Crypto
33:54 The L.A. Vape Cabal
40:45 Millennials and Memecoins
44:51 Binance & the Chinese Community
50:45 Regulatory Developments in Crypto

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Bits + Bips: How Trump’s Tariffs Are Bullish for Bitcoin Both Long- and Short-Term - Ep. 778 Feb 05, 2025

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Trump’s new wave of tariffs has reignited the debate: Are they good for the economy or a disaster waiting to happen? Some say tariffs will crush trade, boost inflation, and slow growth—but others argue they could weaken the dollar and send bitcoin soaring.

On this episode of Bits + Bips, Jeff Park of Bitwise, along with James Seyffart, Alex Kruger and Noelle Acheson, battle it out over the real impact of Trump’s tariffs, whether they could spark a new Plaza Accord 2.0, and why ETH took a harder hit than BTC in the latest selloff.

Plus, is Trump’s economic strategy really about making America great again—or just about keeping his own real estate empire afloat? Jeff makes a bold claim outlining Trump’s #1 goal—one that his personal wealth depends on.

Show highlights:

2:38 - Why Jeff believes that people’s reaction to tariffs was bizarre
7:09 - Why Jeff is convinced that tariffs are good for bitcoin
10:18 - Why Alex is so against tariffs
21:37 - How tariffs actually affect consumers
27:36 - What’s Trump’s number one priority is, according to Jeff
36:26 - Whether inflation will eventually come back to previous levels
41:05 - Why ETH got hit the hardest on Sunday night
49:56 - Whether the ETH/BTC ratio has bottomed
51:03 - How Hyperliquid’s HYPE held up so strongly
53:02 - The significance of Tether adding USDT to the Lightning Network

Hosts:

James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter
Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard

Guest:

Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise
Previous appearance on Bits + Bips: The Real ‘Trump Trade’ & Why Trump's World Liberty Financial Was a Flop

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Olaf Carlson-Wee and Rushi Manche on Why Move Is Safer for Crypto - Ep. 777 Feb 04, 2025

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The success of any blockchain isn’t just about scalability, security, or decentralization—it’s about attracting developers. The easier it is to build, the more innovation happens. Or at least, that’s the thesis of Movement Labs co-founder Rushi Manche and Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital.

In this episode of Unchained, Rushi explains why Move, originally developed by Meta, is a fundamentally better programming language for crypto than the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM). He breaks down how Move’s unique approach to security and asset management improves developer experience and why the Movement Network is bringing Move to Ethereum as a layer 2 solution.

Olaf shares his thoughts on how alternative programming environments like Move could challenge the dominance of the EVM, why Ethereum is at a critical moment, and how AI-powered financial agents could change how investments work.

Show highlights:

2:32 What problems Move solves for crypto and how it got started
8:57 How the programming language is safer than others, specifically for crypto finance
21:00 What’s the thesis behind the Movement network
23:12 Why Movement chose to become an Ethereum L2
30:08 Where ETH is headed and what it needs to succeed
32:25 Why Rushi is so bearish on EVM layer 2s
34:59 Whether Ethereum is going through an existential crisis
37:47 Why Rushi believes that modularity will save Ethereum
39:28 How Movement differs from Aptos and Sui
41:36 The importance of developer experience in crypto’s growth
44:48 How tokens can signal the significance of content in social media
52:04 Why Olaf thinks we’ll soon see an explosive growth of financialized agents
57:19 Whether AI will replace VC investors and other jobs
1:01:38 What Rushi has to say about the Trump team buying MOVE
1:04:09 The significance of the U.S. making crypto a national priority

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Guest:

Rushi Manche, Co-founder of Movement Labs
Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital
Previous appearances on Unchained:
OG Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why His Crypto Thesis Is Stronger Than Ever
Olaf Carlson-Wee: ‘If There Is a Money-Losing Exploit, the Money Is Gone’
Why The First Employee Of Coinbase Launched A Hedge Fund
To the Moon and Back With Polychain’s Olaf Carlson-Wee
Special Episode with CNBC’s Crypto Trader: Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why This Crypto Winter Is Different From Previous Ones
All Things Cryptoeconomics, Pt. 1, With Olaf Carlson-Wee and Ryan Zurrer of Polychain Capital

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The Chopping Block: Ethereum’s Civil War, L2 Taxation, and Vitalik’s Milady Moment - Ep. 776 Jan 31, 2025

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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, we dive into Ethereum’s growing identity crisis as frustration mounts over the Ethereum Foundation’s leadership, vision, and sluggish innovation. Is Ethereum losing its edge while Solana, Base, and Tron take over? We also break down the Second Foundation drama, discuss Justin Sun’s wild L2 taxation proposal, and debate whether Ethereum needs a CTO-style overhaul to stay competitive. Plus, Vitalik Buterin’s unexpected embrace of the Milady NFT movement and what Gary Gensler’s exit from the SEC means for the future of crypto regulation.

Show highlights

🔹 Ethereum Civil War? The Ethereum Foundation (EF) faces internal and external backlash as Vitalik defends its “WEF soy boy” ethos. Critics call for leadership changes, faster innovation, and a more aggressive growth strategy.

🔹 Second Foundation Fakeout: Rumors spread that Lido’s founder was launching a rival EF, briefly pumping ETH before being debunked. The buzz reignites calls for governance changes.

🔹 L2 Taxation Debate: Justin Sun proposes a 5B ETH tariff on rollups to fund buybacks, sparking debates on Ethereum’s fragmented ecosystem and lack of value accrual.

🔹 Vitalik Goes Milady: Ethereum’s co-founder embraces the Milady NFT subculture, changes his profile pic, and adopts the meme’s signature sign-off, fueling speculation about crypto’s shifting cultural landscape.

🔹 Ethereum’s Identity Crisis: With Solana, Base, and Tron dominating user adoption, is Ethereum too slow and academic to compete? Calls for an Ethereum “CTO” or more centralized execution grow louder.

🔹 Gensler’s Next Move: Gary Gensler exits the SEC and returns to MIT to teach AI & finance. Crypto celebrates his departure, while an AI-generated rap video mocks his legacy.

Hosts

⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly

⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate

⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly

Disclosures

Links

Hayden Adam’s Tweet:

https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/1884134669265891433

Justin Sun’s EF Plan Tweet:

https://x.com/justinsuntron/status/1881999625990836229

Scaling Ethereum L1 and L2s in 2025 and Beyond by Vitalik Buterin:

https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2025/01/23/l1l2future.html

Zen and the Art of Shifting Mindsets in Technology: Aya Miyaguchi interview in Wired Magazine:

https://wired.jp/article/the-next-innovators-4-aya-miyaguchi-en/

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

01:47 Ethereum Foundation's Civil War

05:53 The Bronze Age Mentality

07:32 Community Criticism and Governance

10:03 Vitalik's New Persona: Embracing Milady

14:33 Future of Ethereum and L2s

37:39 L1 vs L2: Do People Really Care?

42:12 Ethereum's Strategy and Colonialism Analogy

46:10 The Role of the Ethereum Foundation

58:34 Gary Gensler's Move to MIT and His Legacy

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Crypto Kidnappings and Physical Attacks Are on the Rise—Here’s How to Stay Safe - Ep. 775 Jan 31, 2025

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The kidnapping of Ledger co-founder David Balland in France sent shockwaves through the crypto community, raising urgent questions about security for high-profile crypto holders. How do you protect yourself when criminals are willing to go beyond digital attacks and resort to violence?

In this episode of Unchained, Jameson Lopp, co-founder and Chief Security Officer of Casa, speaks about the growing trend of “wrench attacks”—physical assaults aimed at forcing crypto holders to transfer their assets. Lopp explains how these attacks are evolving, what makes someone a target, and which geographies are seeing the most attacks.

Plus, he shares what behaviors put you most at risk, how criminals are getting more organized, and why relying on exchanges for security is not as safe as you think.

If you hold significant crypto wealth, this is an episode you can’t afford to miss.

Show highlights:

2:02 How a Ledger co-founder was kidnapped and how the situation was resolved
6:46 Who tends to be targeted and which geographies see the most physical attacks
14:15 The riskiest behaviors that are likely to lead to wrench attacks
16:01 How attackers decide who to target
20:37 How the attacks have been accelerating lately
22:16 How the Ledger team ensured the kidnappers couldn’t access the ransom money
23:44 Jameson’s top tips on how crypto holders can stay safe
29:30 News Recap

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Jameson Lopp, co-founder and Chief Security Officer of Casa

Links

Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto security:
Here’s How to Protect Your Crypto and Seed Phrases From Natural Disasters
Reuters: Kidnapped co-founder of French crypto firm Ledger had his hand mutilated

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Bits + Bips: Why Bitcoin Was Strong Amid the DeepSeek Selloff But a Drop May Be Coming - Ep. 774 Jan 29, 2025

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From AI shaking up Big Tech to bitcoin’s role in the macro landscape, Jim Bianco delivers insights on the DeepSeek-triggered market selloff, memecoins, and the challenges facing traditional systems. In this episode, the macro strategist shares why DeepSeek’s AI model is reshaping competition, how crypto reserves might evolve, and what happens to MicroStrategy if bitcoin’s price takes a hit. Plus, hear his take on why stablecoins are a threat to banks, and why memecoins could be more than speculation.

Show highlights:

What of crypto attracted Jim so much

0:49 What of crypto attracted Jim so much
6:15 Why the DeepSeek new model was so disruptive
12:47 Whether the biggest loser is OpenAI, not all the Mag 7
16:14 Whether we’ll see a major macro response from U.S. companies and government
26:06 What will happen next with the price of bitcoin
28:54 What would happen to MSTR if bitcoin goes 30% lower
34:11 How Trump was able to move so fast since the inauguration
39:30 Why the Fed should not do QE, according to Jim
49:02 How memecoins could be designed to be much more than speculative assets
53:03 Why James hopes the SEC doesn’t approve all the memecoin ETF applications
58:06 Whether banks will start onboarding crypto companies
1:05:52 Why stablecoins poise an existential threat to the current banking system
1:11:19 Whether it’s a bad idea for the U.S. to acquire other cryptos that are not bitcoin

Hosts:

James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida
Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter

Guest:

Jim Bianco, President and Macro Strategist at Bianco Research

Links

CNN Business: Trump announces a $500 billion AI infrastructure investment in the US
Unchained: Tuttle Capital Files for 10 Leveraged Crypto ETFs
CoinDesk: Nasdaq Files for In-Kind Redemptions for BlackRock Spot Bitcoin ETF
Reuters: US, Colombia reach deal on deportations; tariff, sanctions put on hold

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Chris Dixon on Why We Will Finally See New App Innovation in Crypto - Ep. 773 Jan 28, 2025

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Chris Dixon, founder and managing partner of a16z crypto, joins Unchained to share why he believes crypto innovation is about to explode. From Ethereum’s potential to new crypto legislation, Chris delves into why the industry is poised for a major break out.

He also discusses why the Biden administration’s “lawfare campaign” led to the memecoin craze, how AI and crypto together could transform technology, and why bad tech policy stifled the industry for years.

Plus, he shares his take on the executive order signed by President Donald Trump and its significance for the industry.

Show highlights:

2:51 Why Chris feels like the Biden administration was trying to destroy crypto
7:16 Chris’s take on the Trump announcements and executive orders
14:18 What Chris would like to see in upcoming crypto legislation
21:37 How he compares the intertwining of AI and crypto with mobile, cloud and social
26:24 Whether an investing AI agent like ai16z could ever compete with A16z
32:05 How technologies usually evolve exponentially and how the AI x crypto craze will evolve
39:21 Why Chris doesn’t think the debate about whether Ethereum L2s are ‘parasitic’ is important
47:24 Chris’s opinion on whether Vitalik should be doing more marketing for ETH
51:29 Why Chris thinks native rollups on Ethereum could be valuable and promising
55:43 What he believes is important to pitch blockchain to Wall Street
59:39 Chris’s vision for a future multichain world
1:04:20 How the Biden administration’s “lawfare campaign” enabled the memecoin craze in 2024
1:08:08 Why Chris says that Coinbase has been very innovative
1:14:11 Whether ICOs are a recipe for fraud and scams
1:17:39 What apps and innovations Chris is excited about

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Guest:

Chris Dixon, Founder and Managing Partner of a16z crypto

Previous appearances on Unchained:
A16z Crypto’s Chris Dixon on How Blockchains Can Save the Internet
Chris Dixon on How Trust Is the Best Lego

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