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    Unchained

    Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world.

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    DEX in the City: Why the Market Structure Bill May Not Be Good for DeFi Jan 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Thank you to our sponsor, Mantle!

    After months of anticipation, U.S. Senators have unveiled draft crypto market structure legislation.

    In this episode of DEX in the City, hosts Jessi Brooks, Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos and Vy Le are joined by Blockchain Association CEO and former CFTC Commissioner Summer Mersinger to unpack all the provisions that stand out.

    These include the bill's attempt to draw a line between centralized and decentralized platforms, the amended stance on stablecoin yield and exemptions for assets with ETFs.

    Would the bill “sweep up all of DeFi?” Has crypto lost the fight over stablecoin yield? And is Trump playing interference for crypto?

    Hosts:

    • Jessi Brooks
    • Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos
    • TuongVy Le

    Guests:

    • Summer Mersinger, CEO Blockchain Association

    Links:

    • Tether Freezes $182 Million in USDT on Tron
    • Senators Move to Curb Passive Stablecoin Yields in Market Structure Push
    • How the Crypto Market Structure Law Would Expose that Trump’s WLFI Isn’t DeFi
    • Jessi and Katherine's paper on programmable risk management

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    The Chopping Block: Venezuela Sanctions Drama + Polymarket Insider Trading + Zcash Foundation Exodus Jan 14, 2026
    Show notes

    The Chopping Block breaks down the Kontigo Venezuela sanctions scandal, poly market insider trading drama around Maduro's capture, and the explosive Zcash governance crisis that has the entire Electric Coin Company team quitting to launch CashZ amid foundation versus for-profit wallet debate.

    Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, the crew dives deep into Venezuela's unexpected crypto connections following Maduro's capture, unpacking how the YC-backed fintech Kontigo allegedly used stablecoins to arbitrage sanctions and capital controls.

    They debate the moral complexities of banking the unbanked versus violating US sanctions, and whether stablecoins are fulfilling their promise of financial freedom or enabling bad actors. The conversation then shifts to prediction markets drama, as a mysterious trader made $400k betting on Maduro's downfall just hours before it happened — sparking calls for insider trading laws in political betting markets.

    Finally, they tackle the governance chaos in Zcash land, where the entire Electric Coin Company team quit en masse over disagreements with the nonprofit board, launching a new for-profit venture called CashZ. The hosts debate whether this signals the end of the foundation era in crypto, or just growing pains for protocols trying to build killer products.

    Hosts:

    • Haseeb Qureshi
    • Robert Leshner
    • Tarun Chitra
    • Tom Schmidt

    Links:

    • FinTech Business Weekly - Kontigo: Y Combinator's Venezuelan Sanctions Evasion Startup
    • Wall Street Journal - A Mystery Trader Made $400,000 Betting on Maduro’s Downfall

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    How Venezuela Shows Why Bitcoin, Crypto and Stablecoins Help Everyday People Jan 13, 2026
    Show notes

    Thank you to our sponsors, Uniswap and Figure Markets!

    Amid several years of economic challenges, Venezuela boasts a long and intriguing relationship with crypto. Following the capture of President Nicolas Maduro by the U.S. government, these crypto ties have again been brought into focus.

    In this Unchained podcast episode, Ledn cofounder Mauricio Di Bartolomeo and Economic Inclusion Group President Jorge Jraissati join Laura Shin to unpack this history, including the plausibility of the Latin American country sitting on a $60 billion Bitcoin stash.

    Mauricio details how the hums of Bitcoin mining rigs became the sound of freedom for Venezuelans. Jorge says post-Maduro Venezuela will “demand” a crypto powered economy.

    Will the crypto industry shape the future of Venezuela? And what does such a future look like?

    Hosts:

    • Laura Shin

    Guests:

    • Mauricio Di Bartolomeo, Cofounder and CSO of Ledn
    • Jorge Jraissati, President of Economic Inclusion Group

    Links:

    • Bitcoin Rallies to $93,000 After U.S. Attack on Venezuela
    • How Maduro’s Capture and a ‘Pre-War World’ Affects Bitcoin: Bits + Bips
    • Brian Kelly on Token-Curated Registries, Robinhood Crypto Trading and the Petro

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    DEX in the City: Why Prediction Market 'Insider Trading' Isn't Illegal — Yet Jan 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Thank you to our sponsor, Mantle!

    Canton's in bed with Nasdaq, a Google DeepMind's paper talks up the role of blockchain in an agentic economy and an alleged insider cashes in on Maduro's capture.

    In this DEX in the City episode, hosts Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, Jessi Brooks and Vy Le dive into the implications of Canton's Nasdaq deal, why DeepMind's study matters for crypto and the legality of insider trading on prediction markets.

    Vy highlights what Canton's Nasdaq deal signals about the priorities of institutions adopting blockchain technology. Katherine and Jessi engage in what happens when the machines take over. Plus, should federal officials be banned from using prediction markets?

    Hosts:

    • Jessi Brooks
    • Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos
    • TuongVy Le

    Links:

    • Bitcoin Rallies to $93,000 After U.S. Attack on Venezuela
    • How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other
    • Why the Black Friday Whale’s $192 Million Crypto Trade Was Legal
    • DEX in the City: Insider Trading and Crypto: What the Law Actually Says
    • Google DeepMind’s agentic economy paper
    • Pawthereum's website
    • A copy of Rep. Ritchie's bill

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    How Aave Labs and the DAO Should Split Ownership of the Brand - Uneasy Money Jan 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Thank you to our sponsors, Multichain Advisors and Mantle!

    Aave DAO on Christmas Day lost the vote to take control of Aave brand assets, but the fight is likely not over.

    In this Uneasy Money episode Aave Chan Initiative (ACI) founder Marc Zeller takes hosts Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan inside the fight over one of DeFi's biggest names, teasing a “phase two” of the fight.

    Plus, why is Infinex's ICO getting so much flak and are claims of insider trading on Polymarket misguided?

    Hosts:

    • Kain Warwick
    • Taylor Monahan

    Guests:

    • Marc Zeller, Founder of the Aave Chan Initiative (ACI)

    Links:

    • Uneasy Money: Why Token Holders Have No Rights & Why Every DAO ‘Has Failed’
    • Aave Labs Proposes Off-Protocol Revenue Sharing With Token Holders
    • Aave’s Rushed Governance Vote Draws Backlash
    • Infinex Changes INX Token Sale Terms After Low Demand
    • MegaETH Just Had Its Public Sale. Can It Succeed in Building a Web2-Like Experience?
    • Polymarket Introduces Taker Fees in 15-Minute Markets
    • Polymarket Resolves Issues After Polygon Network Disruption
    • How to Trade Prediction Markets Without an Opinion on the Event
    • Ethereum’s Vitalik Buterin Says Blockchain Trilemma ‘Has Been Solved’

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    Why 2026 Is 'Too Chaotic' to Make Crypto Predictions Jan 09, 2026
    Show notes

    Thank you to our sponsor, Mantle!

    In this Unchained podcast episode, guests Alex Thorn and Ryan Graham share their 2026 outlook for Bitcoin and the broader crypto market, exploring why the year looks unusually uncertain.

    The conversation also digs into questions around Ethereum’s long-term value, whether killer apps are enough to drive adoption, prediction markets’ push into sports betting, and why the privacy meta could continue in 2026.

    Hosts:

    • Laura Shin

    Guests:

    • Ryan Graham, Research Analyst at Messari
    • Alex Thorn, Head of Firmwide Research at Galaxy Digital

    Links:

    • DAT Stocks Are on Sale. Are They a Buy? Plus, Why Crypto Is Dead
    • Ethereum’s Vitalik Buterin Says Blockchain Trilemma ‘Has Been Solved’
    • Solana Withstands Week-Long DDoS Attack
    • Solana Mulls Proposal to Lower Inflation Rate
    • Western Union Files ‘WUUSD’ Trademark After Solana Stablecoin Reveal
    • Why the Privacy Coins Mania Is Much More Than Price Action
    • The Chopping Block: Hyperliquid vs. Tarun, ADL Transparency & The Coming Perps Arms Race
    • How to Trade Prediction Markets Without an Opinion on the Event
    • Why Wall Street Banks Need to Launch Their Own Stablecoins
    • How the GENIUS Act Creates a Built-In Advantage for Banks and Deposit Tokens
    • Klarna Launches Stablecoin Built on Stripe’s Tempo Chain
    • How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other

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    The Chopping Block: 2025 Winners & Losers + 2026 Predictions - Ep. 998 Jan 08, 2026
    Show notes

    Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. It's a new year, and that means the crew is back with their annual year-end awards and predictions episode.

    First up: the 2025 winners and losers. From Trump's meme-coin windfall to Gary Gensler's legacy getting torched, from prediction markets going mainstream to Web3 getting its official eulogy — no one is safe. The team debates the biggest surprises (Circle's shocking IPO run, Ethereum's pivot under new leadership, Zcash's unlikely comeback), the best new mechanisms (ICO 2.0, DATs, federal preemption), and the year's best memes (including the Chopping Block's own tariff factory video).

    Then comes the flops and comebacks: AI agents that overpromised, Berachain's fall from grace, and Tether somehow winning again. Finally, the crew reviews how badly their 2025 predictions aged — spoiler: not great — and lays out fresh calls for 2026 including AI-powered hacks, stable-coin-funded AI capex, and equity perps taking over DeFi.

    New year, fresh takes, brutal honesty — let's get into it.


    Show highlights

    🔹 Biggest winner debate — Trump's meme-coin empire, prediction markets going mainstream, and M&A consolidation reshaping the industry.

    🔹 Gary Gensler's legacy destroyed — Haseeb declares his SEC tenure the biggest loser as every initiative got reversed.

    🔹 Web3 pronounced dead — Tarun writes the epitaph on the "ownership economy" thesis as NFT sentiment hits rock bottom.

    🔹 Bitcoin as biggest loser? — Robert's controversial pick: BTC underperformed in a year that should have been its best.

    🔹 Circle IPO shocks — From skeptics to $70B market cap, the stablecoin thesis briefly took over Wall Street.

    🔹 Ethereum pivot surprise — Vitalik's leadership shake-up and new EF direction restored optimism no one expected.

    🔹 DATs dominate mechanism talk — Robert calls them highest "absolute value of impact" — amplifying volatility both ways.

    🔹 AI agents flopped hard — From mania to annoyance, the speculative thesis collapsed and sentiment turned hostile.

    🔹 2025 predictions reviewed — The team confesses their misses (150K BTC, 5x AI agent caps) with Tom winning at 2/3.

    🔹 2026 predictions dropped — AI-generated $100M+ hacks, stable-coin-funded AI capex, and equity perps hitting 20% of DeFi volume.

    Hosts:

    ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly

    ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate

    ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

    ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly


    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro

    00:26 Crypto Industry Overview

    02:39 Biggest Winners of 2025

    07:32 Biggest Losers of 2025

    13:29 Biggest Surprises of 2025

    22:24 Best New Mechanisms of 2025

    28:49 Best Memes of 2025

    33:24 Best and Worst Pivots of 2025

    39:15 Biggest Flops of 2025

    41:31 Biggest Flop of 2025

    42:58 Bitcoin's Disappointing Year

    45:30 Biggest Comeback Stories of 2025

    49:12 Favorite Guests of 2025

    52:40 Reflecting on 2025 Predictions

    56:33 Predictions for 2026


    Disclosures

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    How Maduro's Capture and a 'Pre-War World' Affects Bitcoin: Bits + Bips Jan 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Thank you to our sponsor, Uniswap!

    In this episode of Bits + Bips, hosts Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins are joined by macro strategist Peter Tchir to unpack one of the most consequential geopolitical events in years: the U.S. capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

    The conversation explores why Bitcoin surged past $94,000, what the operation signals about U.S. power and strategy, and how investors should think about energy, supply chains, and national security in a shifting global order.

    The group also debates whether crypto’s 24/7 markets are revealing a structural weakness in traditional finance, whether Latin America is poised for an investment renaissance, and why “production for security” may replace ESG as the dominant investment framework.

    Hosts:

    • Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida
    • Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting
    • Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund

    Guest:

    • Peter Tchir, Head of Macro Strategy at Academy Securities

    Links:

    • Bitcoin Rallies to $93,000 After U.S. Attack on Venezuela
    • The Venezuelan Oil Narative is PURE THEATRE
    • Venezuela: The $60B+ Bitcoin "Shadow Reserve"

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    The Crypto Market Structure Has Changed and Rising Tides May No Longer Lift All Boats Jan 03, 2026
    Show notes

    Thank you to our sponsor, Mantle. Sign up for their hackathon here!

    Crypto markets this year failed to live up to expectations, raising questions about the trajectory for next year. The situation is further complicated by speculation that Bitcoin is about to kick off a multiyear decline in line with the so-called four year cycle.

    In this Unchained podcast episode, Delphi Digital analysts Jason Pagoulatos and Jordan Yeakley break down the market and applications outlook for next year.

    They look at whether the four year cycle would hold, what gold's run means for Bitcoin and the conditions that have led to recent market apathy. They also discussed whether the recent resurgence of privacy coins is a fad and who would come out on top in the race to become an “everything app.”

    Is the four year cycle the result of multiple coincidences? And, is X the dark horse in the everything app meta?

    Guests:

    • Jason Pagoulatos, Head of Markets at Delphi Digital

    • Jordan Yeakley, CFA, Research Analyst at Delphi Digital

    Previous appearances on Unchained:

    • What Went Wrong With Pump's ICO and Where It Goes From Here

    • How Crypto Markets Are Post-Selloff, With Election/Fed Uncertainty

    Links

    • Unchained:

      • Will Bitcoin’s New Phase Change It Forever? And Is the 4-Year Cycle Dead?

      • The Chopping Block: Hyperliquid vs. Tarun, ADL Transparency & The Coming Perps Arms Race

      • What Ethereum Will Look Like When It Implements Its New Privacy Focus

      • Why the Privacy Coins Mania Is Much More Than Price Action

      • Coinbase Launches Stock Trading and Prediction Markets

      • Inside Robinhood’s Big Super App Plan: ‘There’s Still a Lot of Work to Be Done’

      • How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other

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    The Chopping Block: Aave Civil War + Flow Hack + Coinbase Super-App - Ep. 993 Jan 01, 2026
    Show notes

    Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This episode opens with the Aave DAO civil war: a CoWSwap integration that allegedly routed swap fees to Aave Labs/Avara instead of the DAO, igniting “stealth privatization” claims, a “poison pill” push to seize Aave IP/brand, and a bigger fight over who really owns Aave.com and the protocol’s front door.

    Next, the crew unpacks the Flow hack (a $3.9M mint exploit) and the wild rollback talk that followed — plus why forks and bridges make rollbacks dangerous, turning bridges into accidental custodians and breaking old security assumptions.

    Finally, they break down Coinbase’s System Update and the “Everything Exchange” strategy — stocks, tokenization, perps, prediction markets, stablecoin rails — and whether this approach can win against Robinhood. DAO wars, chain chaos, and super-app ambition — let’s get into it.


    Show highlights

    🔹 Aave DAO civil war erupts — CoWSwap fees reportedly route to Aave Labs/Avara, not the DAO, fueling “stealth privatization” claims.

    🔹 “Poison pill” proposal — DAO demands Aave IP/brand and Aave.com control, turning governance into a DevCo vs DAO showdown.

    🔹 No foundation, messy ownership — Aave’s pre-foundation setup exposes off-chain IP risk, jurisdiction questions, and untested legal theory.

    🔹 Christmas vote drama — 41% abstain signals a redo; OG/Asia backlash pits “property rights” vs “commons” narratives.

    🔹 Flow hacked for $3.9M — chain pause + rollback idea sparks outrage (and wouldn’t even stop the attacker).

    🔹 Rollbacks meet bridges — forked history can wipe innocent bridgers; bridges become custodians when chains reorg or rewind.

    🔹 Interconnected chains break security — old models crumble, and small chains “die twice” when bridges/oracles unplug.

    🔹 Coinbase goes “Everything Exchange” — stocks/ETFs, tokenization, perps, prediction markets; can Coinbase beat Robinhood’s funnel?


    Hosts:

    ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly

    ⭐️Robert Leshner [MIA], CEO & Co-founder of Superstate

    ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

    ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly


    Links:

    Aave Cowswap Integration- Tokenholder Questions (aave discussion)

    https://governance.aave.com/t/aave-cowswap-integration-tokenholder-questions/23530?u=ignas

    Aave Will Win: 2026 Master Plan by Stani Kulechov

    https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2001036446098919461

    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro

    01:51 Aave Civil War Erupts

    06:37 CoWSwap Fees Spark Aave IP Debate

    10:20 Can a DAO Own IP?

    15:25 Aave’s Pre-Foundation Legal Quirk

    28:20 Flow Hacked: $3.9M Mint Attack

    33:50 Small Chains Die When Bridges Leave

    34:33 App Chains Boom Is Over

    36:32 The Hidden $20M L1 Tax

    43:29 Coinbase System Update: Everything Exchange

    57:43 Coinbase vs Robinhood: Build vs Buy


    Disclosures

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