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    Uncensored CMO

    The Uncensored CMO was created to explore the good, the bad and quite frankly downright ugly truth about marketing theory & practice.

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    How Guinness became Britain's favourite pint - Stephen O'Kelly, Global Brand Director Apr 03, 2024
    Show notes

    How does someone create advertising for a brand that is over 150 years old? That is exactly what Stephen O'Kelly has been tasked with as Global Brand Director at Guinness, one of the most iconic brands in the world. Recorded from the Connoisseur bar at the Guinness Storehouse in Dublin, this episode of Uncensored CMO is special. Not just because of how much history is involved in the brand, but the fact that Stephen is a fourth generation employee, carrying on the legacy of his family.


    Copy that works, a copywriting masterclass with Vikki Ross Mar 27, 2024
    Show notes

    Vikki Ross is a copywriting expert. Having worked for some major brand in the past two decades, she knows a thing or two about branding and tone of voice. This episode is a copywriting masterclass. We start by delving into the principles of great copy, before looking at it in action with our very own Copy Safari (where we go out into the world to find real ads), and then round off by asking the big question; is AI going to replace copywriters?

    Links

    • Eats, Shoots and Leaves book
    • Elements of F*cking Style book
    • Bland Book
    • Vikki's Twitter
    • Vikki's LinkedIn

    Timestamps

    • 00:00:00 - Intro
    • 00:00:59 - How Vicki got into copywriting
    • 00:03:53 - Advice for people wanting to get into copywriting
    • 00:07:34 - Why are car ads so bad?
    • 00:09:39 - Is copywriting intimidating?
    • 00:11:26 - Why copywriters need a good brief
    • 00:14:50 - When copy goes wrong
    • 00:18:17 - The principles of great copy
    • 00:23:03 - This sentence has five words
    • 00:25:49 - Power of a six word story
    • 00:26:47 - #CopySafari
    • 00:30:13 - Prime - It’s Right Here
    • 00:31:58 - Nurofen and Nuromol
    • 00:35:28 - Why marketers should work with lawyers
    • 00:38:39 - Uber Eats - Just a tap away
    • 00:41:19 - Subway - Saver Subs
    • 00:43:00 - Lebara Mobile - Blady Blah
    • 00:44:27 - Sacla - Spaghetti You Won’t Forgetti
    • 00:45:56 - Monday.com - Meet your power suite
    • 00:47:32 - TFL - See it, say it, sorted
    • 00:49:42 - Greatest copywriting examples of of recent times
    • 00:52:00 - Vikki’s favourite campaigns she’s worked on
    • 00:55:05 - Will AI take copywriter’s jobs?
    • 01:03:28 - Advice for clients on copy

    Ritson on Advertising Effectiveness with special guest Guilherme Ferreira VP Global Marketing Cadbury Mar 20, 2024
    Show notes

    We're doing things a little bit differently this week. I've just recorded a webinar with Mark Ritson on advertising effectiveness with a very special guest, the VP for global marketing, Gui Ferreira from Mondelez. They are responsible for some of the epic Cadbury work that has scored right at the top of the System1 charts. We discussed what makes their advertising so good, what are the principles of advertising effectiveness and what can we learn?

    Watch the ads referenced in this podcast:

    • Cadbury Garage
    • Oreo Twist

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Intro
    • 03:23 Why creativity matters
    • 04:31 Investing in creativity
    • 08:00 Being forced into short term tactics
    • 10:46 How to write a better brief
    • 14:45 Distinctive assets (Oreo Ad)
    • 20:10 Cadbury Garage Ad
    • 22:07 Orlando Chart
    • 23:21 Cadbury Generosity
    • 27:24 How Cadbury approaches creative development
    • 29:22 Data vs creative judgement
    • 32:53 How to measure creative
    • 40:15 Q&A

    How Liquid Death founder, Mike Cessario, created a billion dollar water brand Mar 13, 2024
    Show notes

    Today I'm joined by Mike Cessario, the founder and CEO of Liquid Death, a water brand worth $1.4b. With the use of creative brand marketing and punk aesthetic, Mike was able to break into the biggest beverage category in the US and disrupt market dominated by huge brands such as Coke and Pepsi. This is a truly inspirational story on how you can defy the odds, break convention, disrupt a category and do it all on a shoestring budget. If you're a challenger brand, this is a must listen.

    Timestamps
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:10 - Mike’s background
    00:06:24 - Mike’s brandy startup
    00:10:33 - Navigating regulation
    00:12:46 - The benefits of being an outsider distrupting an industry
    00:14:57 - Coming up with the idea for Liquid Death
    00:19:30 - How to create an innovative brand
    00:23:48 - Selling the Liquid Death concept
    00:27:08 - Raising money for Liquid Death
    00:29:50 - Launching on Amazon
    00:30:52 - Generating demand in the early days
    00:31:46 - Figuring out distribution networks for the drinks industry
    00:35:45 - Why limited budgets helped Liquid Death grow
    00:44:11 - Why D2C was pivotal for Liquid Death
    00:46:12 - Liquid Death’s unique Super Bowl campaign
    00:49:54 - The power of the Liquid Death merch
    00:53:00 - Innovation for the future of Liquid Death
    00:54:15 - Scaling and exit
    00:56:02 - Having famous investors
    00:57:29 - Maintaining the challenger spirit
    01:01:58 - Mike’s advice to aspiring founders


    Creativity driven performance, CPG lessons for SaaS and the power of distinctive assets - Michelle Taite, Mailchimp Mar 06, 2024
    Show notes

    As Chief Marketing Officer, Michelle Taite leads Intuit Mailchimp’s Marketing teams and is responsible for the business’ end-to-end brand, acquisition, performance, product, and lifecycle marketing activities globally in addition to Mailchimp's in-house creative agency Wink. Joining just after Mailchimp's $12b acquisition, Michelle had the task of integrating their marketing into the wider Intuit team.

    Intro

    00:00 - Intro
    00:48 - Starting out desigining sneakers
    02:39 - From New Balance to Unilever
    04:13 - Doing purpose work for Dove
    05:15 - Michelle’s favourite work at Unilever
    06:27 - From CPG to SaaS
    09:29 - What is Mailchimp and why is it successful
    11:06 - Staying close to the customer
    13:26 - How to market to marketers
    14:54 - Email is not dead
    16:15 - Integrating an acquired company
    20:40 - Performance vs brand marketing
    25:16 - How AI will enhance creativity
    29:20 - Mailchimp's distinctive assets
    33:21 - How marketing influences the product
    35:56 - How to market to marketers
    38:35 - Obsessing about the 95% not in market
    40:45 - Top CMO advice from Michelle


    Amazon’s Chief Creative Officer on the power of emotional advertising, distinctive brand assets and delivering at speed Feb 28, 2024
    Show notes

    Jo Shoesmith is the Global Chief Creative Officer at Amazon. She leads lead brand creative, design, production, social, and brand identity functions, as well as agency partnerships, in the largest fixed marketing portfolio investment at Amazon.

    00:00 - Intro
    01:04 - From rural Australia to Los Angeles
    01:58 - From agency to client side
    04:44 - That famous Jeff Bezos marketing quote
    05:50 - What does the Chief Creative Officer at Amazon do
    07:41 - Creating emotional, brand building advertising
    09:22 - Using the brand distintive assets
    10:33 - Creating inclusive advertising
    13:05 - Advice for writing a really good brief
    14:43 - Tenets to inform great creative
    15:45 - Benefits of having in house creative (and working with agencies)
    17:42 - Managing global creative teams
    19:36 - What’s it like making a Super Bowl ad
    22:42 - Innovation within Amazon
    24:12 - Making things happen in a huge business
    25:13 - Simplifying complex creative ideas
    28:23 - Work Jo is most proud of
    31:39 - How Amazon are using AI
    33:44 - Advice to a young Jo


    How a new brand character challenged Whisky conventions to help The Woodsman double market share Feb 21, 2024
    Show notes

    Today I'm speaking with Whyte and Mackay Marketing Director Janice McIntosh and Mr President (their agency) CCO Jon Gledstone about the launch of their new campaign for The Woodsman brand. The "Well Earned" campaign score a whopping 4.8 stars on the System1 test and saw the launch of a brand character, Barry the Beaver, in a move that defies convention in the traditional Whisky category. From internal battles to hurdles presented by the regulators, both Whyte and Mackay and Mr President had to overcome some barriers to bring this campaign to life.


    Timestamps
    00:00 - Intro
    01:01 - Inventing The Woodsman
    01:42 - Creating a brand dominated by big players
    04:00 - Standing out in a product dominated category
    05:46 - Balancing demand and supply
    06:31 - Availablity of the brand
    07:11 - Overcoming perception barriers
    09:15 - Coming up with the “Well Earned” positioning
    13:06 - How to sell in breaking convention
    16:00 - How the agency helped sell the idea
    18:29 - Creating a new character
    20:02 - Characters vs Celebrities
    21:07 - Using humour in a traditional category
    23:23 - Creating a physical barry the beaver
    24:18 - The importance of craft in the ad
    26:07 - Staying on the right side of regulations
    28:23 - A good client agency relationship
    30:09 - How important is testing and data to back up creative decisions
    31:53 - The importance of mental and physical availability
    33:32 - The results
    35:01 - What’s next for the brand?


    Rising from the ashes: the inspirational story of overcoming tragedy with Bozoma Saint John (former Netflix CMO) Feb 14, 2024
    Show notes

    Bozoma Saint John is a Hall of Fame Inducted Marketing Executive, Entrepreneur and Author of her memoir, The Urgent Life. Her career has included roles as the Global CMO of Netflix, CMO of Endeavor, CBO of Uber, Head of Marketing of Apple Music & iTunes and Head of Music and Entertainment Marketing at PepsiCo.

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    • Her book - This Urgent Life

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    • Jon's Twitter
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    Timestamps

    00:00 - Start
    01:34 - Why Boz wrote such an emotional book
    05:02 - The reception to the book
    08:32 - Encountering Spike Lee
    13:32 - Making decisions based on intuition
    16:05 - Working for founder led brands
    20:36 - Leading marketing at large organisations
    23:55 - Managing the relationship with the CEO and CFO
    28:42 - Hire Boz, Get Boz - how to have confidence in yourself
    31:57 - Why you shouldn’t “play the game”
    33:06 - Dawn always comes; dealing with grief
    41:09 - Making the choice to change your life
    45:11 - From corporate jobs to entrepreneur
    48:24 - What’s next for Boz?


    The secrets to Super Bowl success with Michelob ULTRA's Ricardo Marques Feb 07, 2024
    Show notes

    Today we’re diving deep into the high-stakes world of Super Bowl advertising with a very special guest—Ricardo Marques, the VP of Marketing for Michelob ULTRA. Ricardo, a veteran with 19 years at AB Inbev and the marketing maestro behind Michelob ULTRA's growth. He is here to share his playbook on how to score big during the most anticipated advertising event on American television.


    In this episode we get an exclusive look at how Michelob ULTRA prepares for the Super Bowl. Ricardo breaks down the importance of the Super Bowl as a platform, not just for audience reach but for creating conversations and excitement around the brand.


    But is Super Bowl advertising really worth the investment? Ricardo weighs in on the multifaceted approach to this question, assessing the creative, the conversion, and the long game of brand relevance. Key performance indicators, the intricate balance of novelty versus authenticity, and the seismic impact of this year's Super Bowl on Michelob ULTRA's growth trajectory are all on the table.

    Timestamps

    • 00:00 - Intro
    • 00:55 - Why the Super Bowl is such a landmark event for advertisers
    • 03:07 - Ricardo’s background
    • 03:56 - The best advertisers in Super Bowl history
    • 05:05 - Michelob’s Super Bowl history
    • 06:03 - Launch before game day, or on the day?
    • 07:23 - Michelob’s Ad for 2024
    • 10:04 - Is a Super Bowl ad worth $7m?
    • 11:09 - KPIs for a successful Super Bowl Ad
    • 11:48 - How involved are distributors in the process
    • 12:50 - The 2024 Michelob ULTRA Super Bowl Ad with Leo Messi
    • 16:14 - The briefing process for a Super Bowl ad
    • 17:25 - Brand positioning for a more premium beer
    • 18:39 - The core ingredients for a successful ad
    • 21:02 - The impact of celebrities in ads
    • 22:46 - Advice for people making their first big budget campaign
    • 27:26 - Selling in the campaign internally
    • 28:52 - Tying campaigns into global events
    • 31:25 - Using AI in activations
    • 33:57 - McEnroe vs McEnroe
    • 36:35 - Lap Against the Legends
    • 38:14 - Blind man commentating on NBA game
    • 41:45 - How has the brand performed from the campaigns
    • 42:38 - The secret to sustained success as a marketer
    • 47:29 - Who is Ricardo supporting for the Super Bowl?

    The flamingo effect: how Very made their retail brand sparkle - Jessica Myers Very CMO Jan 31, 2024
    Show notes

    Today we're joined by Jessica Myers, CMO of The Very Group. Previously Jess was CMO at Metro Bank and has since made the transition to the highly competitive retail market. At Very, she has overseen the launch of a brand new fluent device; the pink flamingoes. The campaign featuring the new characters scored a whopping 5.7 stars on the System1 scoring platform, Test Your Ad, amongst the very best ads made this year.

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro
    00:52 - Jess’ background
    06:11 - Marketing academy fellowship
    07:13 - From big brand to challenger brand
    10:46 - The modern marketer
    11:57 - From finance to retail
    15:31 - Dealing with the challenges of joining a new business
    18:03 - Nailing positioning
    22:09 - Doing long term marketing in retail
    23:39 - Agency selection process for Very
    27:22 - Understanding your customer
    31:50 - The power of testing creative
    36:36 - The increasing standard of advertising
    38:28 - Creating a new fluent device - The Flamingoes
    43:20 - The future of the brand
    46:08 - Jess’ advice to aspiring marketers


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