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    Truer Words

    Melissa and Kathryn talk creativity, hustle, and real life with writers, artists, and other creators.

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    Michelle Quach Sep 19, 2021
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    In the 68th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Michelle Quach about graphic design, unlikable female characters, and creating a love interest who does more than just the assigned reading. Michelle is the author of the debut YA, NOT HERE TO BE LIKED. Michelle can be found on Twitter @michellequach and Instagram @_michellequach. Her website is michellequach.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Gold-Plated Girls newsletter: 'Never Have I Ever' & Dead Dads & Me by Victoria Edel

    Laura Hankin

    A Special Place for Women by Laura Hankin

    The Other Two on HBOMax

    Munich

    Schitt's Creek on Netflix

    Ted Lasso on Apple+

    Constance Grady

    Why a Christmas Episode Supercharged the Ted Lasso Debate by Kathryn VanArendonk

    Reservation Dogs on Hulu

    Only Murders in the Building on Hulu

    Moving On, A Love Story - Nora Ephron Apthorp article

    Portrait of a Scotsman by Evie Dunmore

    League of Extraordinary Women series

    The Bookshop of Second Chances by Jackie Fraser

    Suddenly You by LIsa Kleypas

    Fated Mates podcast

    Sally Rooney

    Why is the Sex in Sally Rooney's Novels So Good? by Amil Niazi

    She's All That

    Writing the Romantic Comedy by Billy Merritt

    Macbeth

    Life: A User's Manual by Georges Perec

    The Book Doctors

    PitMad

    If You, Then Me by Yvonne Woon

    In-Between Girl

    The Ezra Klein Show: How Blue Cities Became So Outrageously Unaffordable

    The Ezra Klein Show: That Anxiety You're Feeling?

    Hana Kh Carries On by Uzma Jalaluddin

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Emma Kress Aug 16, 2021
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    In the 67th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Emma Kress about writing girls in sports, taking risks, and social media as an author. Emma is the author of DANGEROUS PLAY, available now! Emma can be found on Twitter @emma_kress, TikTok @emma_kress, and Instagram @kress.emma. Her website is emmakress.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    All I Wanna Do

    Bluey

    Bluey is the Best Kids' Show of Our Time by Kathryn VanArendonk for Vulture

    Flat Stanley

    The Nanny

    Drawn That Way by Elissa Sussman

    A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas

    Born in Fire / Born in Ice / Born in Shame (Irish Born trilogy) by Nora Roberts

    The Blue Castle by L. M. Montgomery

    Reservation Dogs

    Sterlin Harjo on WTF with Marc Maron

    Killers of the Flower Moon movie

    Brendan Fraser Joins Killers of the Flower Moon

    Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann

    The Great House Revival

    Cynthia Leitich-Smith

    Mary Quattlebaum

    Amy King

    David Macinnis Gill

    A.R. Capetta

    Cory McCarthy

    Nova Ren Suma

    Our episode with Nova Ren Suma

    Ruth Ware

    Pride and Premeditation by Tirzah Price

    Our episode with Tirzah Price

    In the Same Boat by Holly Green

    Sarah Dessen

    When You Look Like Us by Pamela N. Harris

    Mare of Easttown

    Ted Lasso

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Margot Wood Aug 02, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 66th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Margot Wood about Emma retellings, marketing a book as "queer," and finding community in book lovers. Margot can be found on Twitter @margotwood and Instagram @margotmwood. Her website is margotwood.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Epic Reads

    Immersive Van Gogh exhibit

    Carrieres de Lumières

    Georges Méliès

    Hieronymous Bosch

    L'Atelier des Lumières Paris

    A Black Lady Sketch Show

    Issa Rae's wedding photos

    A Special Place for Women by Laura Hankin

    While We Were Dating by Jasmine Guillory

    Our episode with Jasmine

    Emma by Jane Austen

    Emma (2020 film)

    The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

    Adrienne Kisner

    Our episode with Adrienne

    Meisner technique

    Kiersten White

    Alphasmart Neo Typewriter

    The Princess Diaries

    Love, Simon

    Insurgent movie

    Cheer Up: Love and Pompoms by Crystal Fraser

    The Great Circle by Maggie Shipstead

    Ice Planet Barbarians by Ruby Dixon

    Bones

    Buffy the Vampire Slayer

    Freddie Prinze Jr.

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Azadeh Westergaard Jul 19, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 65th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Azadeh Westergaard about illustration, the joys of research, and Nikola Tesla. Azadeh is the author of A LIFE ELECTRIC: THE STORY OF NIKOLA TESLA. She can be found on Twitter @ahwestergaard and Instagram @ahwestergaard. Her website is ahwestergaard.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts Writing for Children and Young Adults

    Heartburn by Nora Ephron audiobook read by Meryl Streep

    Heartburn movie

    Nora Ephron's "Heartburn" is an Ideal Audiobook by Helen Rosner

    Quotation from Heartburn

    Fresh by Margot Wood

    Emma by Jane Austen

    Clueless

    Hacks

    Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work

    Never Have I Ever

    Virgin River

    Black Widow

    Seven Days in June

    Thanks for Waiting by Doree Shafrir

    Forever35 podcast

    Amelia Bedelia

    Roseanne Rosannadanna

    Júlia Sardà (illustrator of Azadeh's book)

    She Made a Monster: How Mary Shelley Created Frankenstein by Lynn Fulton

    Mary Who Wrote Frankenstein by Linda Bailey, illustrated by Júlia Sardà

    Laura Hankin

    Andrea Bartz and Laura Hankin Talk About Accidentally Writing Similar Novels

    Elizabeth Gilbert

    Ann Patchett

    Big Magic

    Newspapers.com

    Nikola Tesla Museum

    New York Public Library

    Archive.org

    New York Public Library for the Performing Arts

    Theatre on Film and Tape Archive

    Oklahoma! on Broadway

    On a Beam of Light: A Story of Albert Einstein by Jennifer Berne

    Liz Garton Scanlon

    Maira Kalman

    Ooh-La-La Max in Love by Maira Kalman

    School of Visual Arts

    Monica Wellington

    Mary Quattlebaum

    Martha Brockenbrough

    Linda Urban

    Patent Pending bar

    Patent Pending in Nomad is a Cafe by Day, Speakeasy by Night

    Call My Agent!

    The Worst Witch

    The Worst Witch books by Jill Murphy

    Sing

    Sing 2

    Misery

    Pokko and the Drum by Matthew Forsythe

    The Scribner Anthology of Contemporary Short Fiction

    Jhumpa Lahiri

    "Brownies" by ZZ Packer

    The Aspiring Poet's Journal

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Cassie Gustafson Jul 05, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 64th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Cassie Gustafson about writing about sexual assault responsibly, loving dark stories, and Tana French. Cassie can be found on Twitter @cassiegusty and Instagram @cassiegusty. Her website is cassiegustafson.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Djerassi

    Nova Ren Suma

    Our episode with Nova Ren Suma

    World of Our Fathers: The Journey of Eastern European Jews and the Life They Found and Made by Irving Howe

    Norma Klein

    Just Friends

    Margaret

    The Cinematic Traumas of Kenneth Lonergan

    Melissa's Bright Wall / Dark Room essay

    Margaret issue of Bright Wall / Dark Room

    1. Smith-Cameron

    Succession

    You Can Count on Me

    Manchester by the Sea

    Angels in America

    West Side Story

    Gosford Park

    The Box in the Woods by Maureen Johnson

    Truly Devious Trilogy by Maureen Johnson

    The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron

    Finding Water by Julia Cameron

    By Now, Burnout is a Given

    Band Candy

    Earshot - Buffy saves Jonathan

    Danny Strong

    Laurie Halse Anderson

    Speak

    Tana French

    The Secret Place by Tana French

    The Trespasser by Tana French

    In the Woods by Tana French

    Laurie Faria Stolarz

    Jane Anonymous by Laurie Faria Stolarz

    The Last Secret You'll Ever Keep by Laurie Faria Stolarz

    Lost in the Never Woods by Aiden Thomas

    A Song Below Water by Bethany C. Morrow

    The Handmaid's Tale on Hulu

    Land directed by Robin Wright

    Songland

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Kristy Everington Jun 21, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 63rd episode of Truer Words, we speak with Kristy Everington about Australian authors, why Americans call everything "cute," and Ethan Hawke. Kristy is the author of the debut picture book ISOBEL ADDS IT UP. Kristy can be found on Twitter @kmeverington and Instagram @kristyeveryington. Her website is kristyeverington.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Very Sincerely Yours by Kerry Winfrey

    Our episode with Kerry Winfrey

    Starstruck on HBO Max

    Ted Lasso on Apple+

    Dickinson on Apple+

    Hacks on HBO Max

    Succession on HBO

    One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston

    We Can't Keep Meeting Like This by Rachel Lynn Solomon

    Our episode with Rachel Lynn Solomon

    Kirkus review of Isobel Adds It Up

    Kathi Appelt

    Praise by Andrew McGahan

    Sara Zarr

    Looking for Alaska by John Green

    Twilight by Stephenie Meyer

    Jaclyn Moriarty

    Melina Marchetta

    Tomorrow, When the War Began series by John Marsden

    Martine Leavitt

    Jane Kurtz

    An Na

    Not Great, Bob!

    The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron

    Buffy on Hulu

    Angel on Hulu

    The X-Files

    THE X-FILES TWEET (allegedly, please don't sue us)

    Dawson's Creek

    Our episode with Laurie Morrison

    Mare of Easttown on HBO Max

    Cruel Summer on Freeform

    Vampire's Promise by Caroline B. Cooney

    You by Caroline Kepnes

    You TV series

    Dig by A.S. King

    The Project by Courtney Summers

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Camryn Garrett Jun 07, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 62nd episode of Truer Words, we speak with Camryn Garrett about journalism, film, writing for teens as a teen (and young adult), and DIRTY DANCING. Camryn is the author of two young adult novels, FULL DISCLOSURE and OFF THE RECORD. Camryn can be found on Twitter @dancingofpens and Instagram @camryngwrites. Her website is camryngarrett.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    #1000wordsofsummer on Twitter

    #1000wordsofsummer/Craft Talk newsletter by Jami Attenberg

    Jami Attenberg

    Film at Lincoln Center

    World of Wong Kar-Wai

    In the Mood for Love

    Chungking Express

    Criterion Channel

    High on the Hog: How African American Cuisine Transformed America

    High on the Hog host Stephen Satterfield

    Magnolia Plantation

    Michael Twitty

    High on the Hog: A Culinary Journey from Africa to America by Jessica D. Harris

    Legacy by Nora Roberts

    One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston

    Red White and Royal Blue by Casey McQuiston

    Mare of Easttown

    Dirty Dancing

    Girls5eva

    Rutherford Falls

    We Are Lady Parts

    We Can't Keep Meeting Like This by Rachel Lynn Solomon

    Our episode with Rachel Lynn Solomon

    The Ex Talk by Rachel Lynn Solomon

    Weather Girl by Rachel Lynn Solomon

    We Can't Let Physical Media Die by Kieran Fisher

    Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman

    Time for Kids Reporters

    Nicola Yoon

    Jacqueline Woodson

    Almost Famous

    The Chris Farley Show on Saturday Night Live

    Shruti Ganguly

    NYU MBA/MFA program

    Spike Lee

    Kasi Lemmons

    Ang Lee

    Martin Scorsese

    Tamara Jenkins

    NYU MFA Acting shows

    The Princess Diaries by Meg Cabot

    Mike Nichols: A Life by Mark Harris

    Who? Weekly

    Leah Johnson

    The Movies That Made Us

    Eleanor Bergstein

    Love & Basketball

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Evan Griffith May 25, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 54th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Evan Griffith about writing stories about animals, the magic of Mary Quattlebaum, and the beauty of The Crown on Netflix. Evan is the author of SECRETS OF THE SEA: THE STORY OF JEANNE POWER, REVOLUTIONARY MARINE SCIENTIST as well as an upcoming middle grade novel tentatively titled MANATEE SUMMER. Evan can be found on Twitter @Evan_Griffith. His website is evangriffithbooks.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Girl Gone Viral by Alisha Rai

    The Magician and The Spirits by Deb Noyes

    The Ex Talk by Rachel Lynn Solomon

    Today Tonight Tomorrow by Rachel Lynn Solomon

    Call My Agent! on Netflix

    Buffy on Hulu

    Angel on Hulu

    The Dry by Jane Harper

    The Lady Rogue by Jenn Bennett

    You Should See Me in a Crown by Leah Johnson

    2021 ALA Awards

    Our episode with Yamile S. Mendez

    Furia by Yamile S. Mendez

    Our episode with Jenny Torres Sanchez

    We Are Not From Here by Jenny Torres Sanchez

    Our episode with Kekla Magoon

    Workman Publishing

    Mary Quattlebaum

    Joanie Stone (illustrator of Evan's book!)

    The Writing Barn

    Katherine Applegate

    Salima Alikhan

    Our episode with Salima Alikhan

    Austin SCBWI

    We Are Okay by Nina LaCour

    Premeditated Myrtle by Elizabeth Bunce

    Avatar: The Last Airbender

    The Crown

    The Crown Style Archives from Tom + Lorenzo

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    Laurie Morrison May 24, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 61st episode of Truer Words, we speak with Laurie Morrison about writing upper middle grade, carving up old manuscripts for parts, and Judy Blume. Laurie is the author of the middle grade novel UP FOR AIR, the just-released SAINT IVY: KIND AT ALL COSTS, the upcoming COMING UP SHORT, and the co-author (with Cordelia Jensen) of EVERY SHINY THING. Laurie can be found on Twitter @LaurieLMorrison and Instagram @laurielmorrison. Her website is lauriemorrisonwrites.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Dawson's Creek

    Amy Spalding

    Our episode with Amy Spalding

    Amy's OUTFOXED book announcement

    People We Meet on Vacation by Emily Henry

    Beach Read by Emily Henry

    The Nanny

    Crossing Delancey

    Mare of Easttown

    Buffy the Vampire Slayer

    The Office

    Sex and the City

    The Bachelor

    Six Feet Under

    Law & Order: SVU

    SyndicatedBK

    Y Tu Mama Tambien

    In the Heights

    Film at Lincoln Center

    Jill Santopolo

    Cordelia Jensen

    Eighth Grade

    The Canada Geese Quilt by Natalie Kinsey-Warnock

    Judy Blume

    Just As Long As We're Together by Judy Blume

    Goodbye, Stranger by Rebecca Stead

    Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret? by Judy Blume

    Alan Cumyn

    Franny Billingsley

    Mary Quattlebaum

    Shelley Tanaka

    Never Have I Ever

    Losers at the Center of the Galaxy by Mary-Winn Heider

    The Comeback by E. L. Shen

    Get A Life, Chloe Brown by Talia Hibbert

    Joy McCullough

    Our episode with Joy McCullough

    Lost in Space (Netflix version)

    Lost in Space (movie)

    Lost in Space (1960s)

    Ted Lasso

    Schitt's Creek

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


    A.S. King May 10, 2021
    Show notes

    In the 60th episode of Truer Words, we speak with A. S. King about writing EMOTIONS, respecting teens, and astrology. Amy is the author of multiple middle grade and young adult novels, including her newest, SWITCH, which comes out May 11th. Amy can be found on Twitter @AS_King and Instagram @as_king. Her website is as-king.com.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Jacques d'Amboise

    Jacques d'Amboise in China: The Other Side of the World

    Jacques d'Amboise dancing "Apollo"

    Jacques d'Amboise in the dream ballet in Carousel

    Jacques d'Amboise in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers

    He Makes Me Feel Like Dancin' Oscar-winning documentary directed by Emile Ardolino

    National Dance Institute

    Take a Hint, Dani Brown by Talia Hibbert

    Whiteout by Adriana Anders

    Fated Mates podcast

    Stacey Abrams romance novels

    I Crawl Through It by A. S. King

    Dig by A. S. King

    The Dust of 100 Dogs by A. S. King

    David Gill

    Vonnegut's Shape of Stories diagram

    David Levithan

    The Astonishing Life of Octavian Nothing by M. T. Anderson

    The Realm of Possibility by David Levithan

    Please Ignore Vera Dietz by A. S. King

    Paul Zindel

    John Mulaney

    Kae Tempest

    The Handmaid's Tale (audiobook version read by Claire Danes) by Margaret Atwood

    Interior Chinatown by Charles Yu

    Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins

    The Man Suit by Zachary Schomberg

    Scary No Scary by Zachary Schomberg

    Louise Glück

    The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry

    Aaron's Books

    About Us:

    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.

    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.


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