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True Crime Couple

Join married couple Kay and John as they cover some of the lesser known true crime cases. In this bi-weekly podcast, Kay presents the case to both the audience and John at the same time, so they can react together. We pride ourselves on the research we conduct and the respect we show to victims. We hope you enjoy!

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Episode 120: The Bain Family Murders | The One Who Deserved to Stay Part II Jan 24, 2022

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On June 20, 1994 all but one member of the Bain Family has been murdered in their dilapidated home in Dunedin, New Zealand. A one sentence suicide note remained, it read: Sorry, you are the only one that deserved to stay. So was that it? Had Robin Bain murdered murdered his wife, three of his four children, and then turn the gun on himself? Or had this been the plan of the surviving member of the Bain family, the eldest child, David? Join us as we get into part two and discuss the two trials that take place surrounding this case. The evidence from each with be presented and we would love for you to let us know. If you were a juror, what would you have decided?
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Sources: Black Hands by Martin Van BeyenPenguin Random House New Zealand Limited, Nov 3, 2020The Mask of Sanity by James McNeishDavid Ling Pub. Limited, 1997David and Goliath by Joe KaramRoyal New Zealand Foundation of the Blind, 2008 https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/news/real-life/the-case-that-gripped-new-zealand-the-bain-murders-25-years-on-43581
David Fisher Article: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-case-against-david-bain/ENYZXRET7ZQFQFMUO4LUKDNN2E/

Episode 120: The Bain Family Murders | The One Who Deserved to Stay Part I Jan 16, 2022

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On June 20, 1994 all but one member of the Bain Family has been murdered in their dilapidated home in Dunedin, New Zealand. A one sentence suicide note remained, it read: Sorry, you are the only one that deserved to stay. So was that it? Had Robin Bain murdered murdered his wife, three of his four children, and then turn the gun on himself? Or had this been the plan of the surviving member of the Bain family, the eldest child, David? Join us as we get into detail about the Bain Family and cover the discovery of their bodies on that June morning.Part II will be released on 1/23
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Sources: Black Hands by Martin Van BeyenPenguin Random House New Zealand Limited, Nov 3, 2020The Mask of Sanity by James McNeishDavid Ling Pub. Limited, 1997David and Goliath by Joe KaramRoyal New Zealand Foundation of the Blind, 2008https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/news/real-life/the-case-that-gripped-new-zealand-the-bain-murders-25-years-on-43581

Episode 119: The KFC Massacre Jan 02, 2022

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In 1983 tragedy struck in East Texas. As the Friday night lights crowd cheered on their beloved hometown football teams, five employees of a local fast food restaurant were being gunned down in an isolated oil field. Their murders would shake the town of Kilgore Texas to the core. The five families of the victims, along with the Kilgore Police department, the Texas Rangers, and the FBI would search for justice for 20 years. But still, even after all that work there are more questions than answers.
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Sources:The KFC Murders: The deadly saga of the infamous East Texas 1983 KFC Massacre by Jacque Hilburn-Simmons and Kenneth Dean https://caselaw.findlaw.com/tx-court-of-appeals/1318943.html https://law.justia.com/cases/texas/sixth-court-of-appeals/2010/10195.html https://web.archive.org/web/20140714144132/http://www.cbs19.tv/story/23502962/30-years-later-kilgore-kfc-murders https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Man-convicted-in-KFC-deaths-says-real-killer-1736328.php https://web.archive.org/web/20140714221831/http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11936380 https://www.kltv.com/2019/02/15/kilgore-kfc-murderer-eligible-parole/

Episode 118: The MacNeill Family Tragedy Part II Dec 28, 2021

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In Part II of the MacNeill Family Tragedy we get further into the betrayals of Martin, the bravery of the MacNeill sisters, and the shocking trial to follow.

Episode 118: The MacNeill Family Tragedy Part I Dec 20, 2021

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Behind the walls of a gated community we have another wife found dead in a bathtub with her husband desperately trying to save her life. But it was too late for beautiful 50 year old Michele MacNeill. She was pronounced dead hours later at the hospital. Although the medical examiner would deem her death one of natural causes her family would stop at nothing to prove that the her husband of 30 years had been the one to murder her.
911 call present in episode but a warning is given and amount of time needed to fast forward is provided.
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Sources:
The Stranger She Loved by Shanna Hogan
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ut-court-of-appeals/1853341.html
https://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/byu_ca3/3132/
https://law.justia.com/cases/utah/court-of-appeals-published/2012/20090863-ca.html

Episode 117: The Samaritans | The Murder of Allen Ross Dec 05, 2021

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Our case today is going to take us all over the country as an accomplished filmmaker gets sucked into the intrigue of a new age cult in the 1990s. But just when he realized he may be better off without the group he went missing. The search for him lasted three years when his body was found in a shallow grave...now the question is, which member of the cult did it?
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Sources:https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0257643013477234?journalCode=siha https://medium.com/@TheSBT/mystery-building-of-oklahoma-from-black-jail-to-samaritan-cult-house-e4418a509ad5 https://theprivatetherapyclinic.co.uk/blog/the-psychology-behind-cults/https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7026201 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5mb3ogp-8 https://chicagoreader.com/news-politics/the-allen-ross-mystery-a-body-in-the-basement/https://law.justia.com/cases/wyoming/supreme-court/2006/448189.html

Episode 116: The Murder of Kirsten Costas Nov 21, 2021

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The town of Orinda, CA is known for its beautiful views, stellar educational program, and exclusivity. But in 1984 it was also known as the town where the cheerleader was murdered in her neighbors front yard. Join us as we discuss the tragic death of Kirsten Costas and the investigation that followed.
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Sources:https://www.latimes.com/archives https://www.latimes.com/archives https://people.com/archive/in-a-deadly-explosion-of-teenage-unhappiness-one-life-is-cut-short-another-blighted-by-murder-vol-23-no-19/https://books.google.com/books?id=DIc9F5ZzO7YC&pg=PA173#v=onepage&q&f=false https://www.newspapers.com/clip/35053999/the-san-francisco-examiner/https://medium.com/the-true-crime-edition/kirsten-costas-the-real-life-death-of-a-cheerleader-95bc7b3f393 https://www.mixedarticle.com/bernadette-protti-now-today-death-of-a-cheerleader-story-2020/http://bernadetteprottiexposed.blogspot.com/2015/10/my-interview-with-nancy-mark.html

Episode 115: The Groene Family | A Monster Lie in Wait Nov 07, 2021

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During the weekend of May 14, 2005 someone was watching the Groene/McKenzie household. They stalked the family from a fair distance away as they enjoyed the late Spring weekend in Idaho. At night they peered into the family’s windows using night vision goggles so they could learn the floorplan of their home and watch the children sleep. This is the stranger that you have always been warned about.
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Sources:Stolen in the NightGary C. Kinghttps://casetext.com/case/duncan-v-united-states-72 https://idahonews.com/news/local/dad-ordered-out-of-kidnap-survivors-n-idaho-house https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jun/28/shasta-groene-violates-probation-in-injury-to-chil/https://rivcoda.org/community-info/news-media-archives/convicted-serial-killer-who-murdered-10-year-old-beaumont-boy-24-years-ago-dies-in-indiana https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/new-allegations-of-sexual-abuse-at-tacoma-boys-home/887973058/https://childfindofamerica.org/resources/facts-and-stats-missing-children/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-missing-children/2013/05/10/efee398c-b8b4-11e2-aa9e-a02b765ff0ea_story.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yu2e4w7-bg&t=355s

Episode 114: Listener Stories | Part V Oct 24, 2021

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Get ready for some nightmares tonight...
Thank you to everyone who submitted at story!

Episode 113: The DeFeo Murders | An Amityville Horror Oct 09, 2021

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Amityville, NY, located on the south shores of Long Island is not known for its seaside beauty and small town quaintness despite being located in the shadows of New York City. Rather, it is a town that is haunted. It is haunted by a house that sits on busy Ocean Ave located right off the Montauk Highway. It is not the ghosts that haunt Amityville, as anyone beside the residents think, it’s the memories that surround one of the most grisly crimes the island has ever seen.
The true story behind the Amityville Horror House, as most of the country will come to know it as, is more horrifying than any book, movie, or bad sequel could ever be.
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