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True Crime Couple

Join married couple Kay and John as they cover some of the lesser known true crime cases. In this bi-weekly podcast, Kay presents the case to both the audience and John at the same time, so they can react together. We pride ourselves on the research we conduct and the respect we show to victims. We hope you enjoy!

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Episode 241: Mandy Lemaire | Kidnapped in Alaska Sep 20, 2026

Show notes

Along the Copper River in south-central Alaska exist tiny outposts and towns that are scattered along its banks. They are communities that have learned to both love and revere its presence. One of those very places was Tazlina, a tiny village of 421 people (1991).

Tazlina, the residents thought, was their own little slice of heaven. A remote community that believed they were beyond the reach of the violence they had heard so much about on the news at the dawn of the 21st century. But it would be the summer of 1991 that would change the town forever. One resident would say that they had all deluded themselves into believing that their isolation would protect them and that they really knew each other. But what would be revealed in the months-long investigation headed by the Alaska State Troopers was that evil can reach even the furthest corners of the world.

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Sources
Trading Post Location (picture of locations break down on instagram)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/166611043/amanda_lynn-lemaire
https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/07/14/chitinas-charms/
https://cbn.com/article/tragedy/wake-tragedy-light-shines-through
https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/2016/07/01/ministering-to-men-one-oar-stroke-at-a-time/
https://morbidology.com/the-controversial-case-of-mandy-lemaire/
https://www.dailycrime.com/mandy-lemaire-11-was-raped-and-murdered-but-suspect-never-faced-retrial-vanished-in-alaska/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1059360920/?match=1&terms=Charlie%20Smithart&search-id=2ae9ae92-a58c-474c-9c44-620b395f254b&search-rank=1
Newspapers.com

Episode 240: Sandra McGee Steppuhn and Suzanne Nixon | Secrets Revealed Sep 07, 2026

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In the fall of 2015 a secret would be unearthed that would bring the detectives of Monterey, CA back to another case they had worked on just about 33 years prior.

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Sources:
https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/bph/parole-eligibility/
The Califorian, Aug. 20, 1983-2018 (18 articles)
https://www.countyofmonterey.gov/Home/Components/News/News/10894/1336
https://www.thecalifornian.com/story/news/2018/01/05/california-prisoner-admits-killing-seaside-woman-1982/1009554001/
Buried in the Backyard Seaon 1 Episode 6 Episode aired Jul 8, 2018
https://www.ksbw.com/article/man-who-murdered-women-on-monterey-peninsula-sentenced/16334275
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/vacaville-prison-inmate-pleads-guilty-to-1982-monterey-bay-murder/

Episode 239: Elizabeth Ennen | What the Video Revealed Aug 23, 2026

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15 year old Elizabeth Ennen's parents wanted her to begin taking on more responsibility. For a teenager, babysitting seemed like the perfect place to start. On a cold January night in 2011, Elizabeth took a job watching two young children, but she never came home. She had done a wonderful job and was driven home but somewhere between the car and the safety of her home, Elizabeth seemingly vanished into the night.

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Sources:
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1294175442/?match=1&terms=Elizabeth%20Ennen&search-id=5264b395-a4e5-4f3b-923f-3ce85b0251d6&search-rank=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1299893972/?match=1&terms=Elizabeth%20Ennen&search-id=5264b395-a4e5-4f3b-923f-3ce85b0251d6&search-rank=5
https://www.kcbd.com/story/13908033/suspect-in-elizabeth-ennen-case-has-violent-criminal-history
https://www.kcbd.com/story/13895997/police-release-new-information-in-the-case-of-missing-teenager
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/ng/date/2011-01-24/segment/01
https://abcnews.com/US/missing-texas-girl-elizabeth-ennen-strangled-death-babysitting/story?id=12768898
Newspapers.com

Episode 238: Latrese Curtis | The I-540 Murder Aug 09, 2026

Show notes

During the Tuesday morning commute of January 8, 2008 motorist traveling a stretch of I-540 also known as the 'Raleigh Outer Loop' were shocked to find a body on the side of the road. The investigation that would follow would provide many suspects, all with motives that could have potentially led to the murder of 21 year old student Latrese Curtis. Join me as I tell John just what happened on the side of the highway that January night.

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Sources:
https://law.justia.com/cases/north-carolina/court-of-appeals/2011/10-1246-7.html
https://www.newspapers.com/image/659733657/?match=1&terms=latrese%20Curtis&search-id=522bb306-00f8-4ee4-9563-9950c38e1536&search-rank=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/652460220/?match=10&terms=latrese%20Curtis&search-id=522bb306-00f8-4ee4-9563-9950c38e1536&search-rank=3
https://dig.abclocal.go.com/wtvd/Curtis_Autopsy.pdf
https://abc11.com/archive/6071872/
https://abc11.com/archive/7035633/
https://abc11.com/archive/7042495/
https://abc11.com/archive/7023545/
https://abc11.com/archive/6115159/
https://abc11.com/archive/6161680/
https://www.wral.com/archive/2387389/
https://www.wral.com/archive/2931791/
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/newsobserver/name/latrese-curtis-obituary?id=13545043
https://legalclarity.org/latrese-curtis-murder-case-investigation-and-trial/

Episode 237: Jessica Carpenter | On the Street Where You Live Jul 26, 2026

Show notes

When Jessica Carpenter was found murdered in her home on August 4, 2000 investigators searched for answers in what proved to be a very complicated case. As they did, rumors spread throughout the neighborhood, suspicions reached the people closest to the victim, and every lead seemed to raise more questions than it answered. The truth remained hidden behind an ordinary summer day and a series of moments that, at first glance, appeared completely unremarkable. What began as the murder of a 17-year-old girl would grow into a years-long mystery—one that challenged investigators, tested a grieving family, and proved that sometimes the most devastating crimes begin with something so routine that no one gives it a second thought.

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Sources:
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-greenville-news-rivera-is-sentenced/41199209/
https://nationalregister.sc.gov/SurveyReports/HC02001.pdf?
https://www.sccourts.org/media/opinions/HTMLFiles/COA/4124.htm?
https://www.hatcherfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Ms-Chrisilee-Lena-Barton?obId=46374611
https://thecinemaholic.com/jessica-carpenter-murder/
https://www.wistv.com/story/917771/8-30-2002-south-carolina-officers-make-first-arrest-thanks-to-dna-database/
https://www.sccourts.org/media/opinions/advSheets/no242006.pdf
“Cold Blood” Home All Alone (TV Episode 2011)
https://www.lockhaven.com/uncategorized/2020/08/murder-life-of-south-carolina-teen-remembered-20-years-on/
https://theaugustapress.com/chrisilee-barton-the-woman-who-survived-a-serial-killer-dies-after-battle-with-cancer/
https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/2007/s07p0151-1.html
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-atlanta-constitution-tiffaney-sheree/41199055/

Episode 236: Traci Todd | Missing in Chicago Jul 13, 2026

Show notes

On September 14, 2000, a concerned neighbor called 911 after hearing sounds of a violent fight in the apartment next door. Unable to gain entry after no one buzzed them into the building, responding officers eventually left, a decision they would later regret. What followed was the disappearance of a 34 year old flight attendant, a gruesome discovery, and a case that unraveled one shocking secret after another.

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Sources
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2003/11/19/murder-coverup-outlined-to-jury/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2003/12/24/65-year-term-for-womans-murder/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/170520970/?match=8&terms=traci%20todd
https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/taking-stock-community-policing-chicago
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/Resources/fed3a0e5-a70e-42b9-b4fc-8cc35f602e01/1091520_R23.pdf
Newspapers.com Archived articles from the Chicago Tribune

Episode 235: Joann and Alex Katrinak | The Conclusion: Part III Jul 01, 2026

Show notes

Join John and I as we discuss the final part in our series on the murders of Joann and Alex Katrinak.

Trigger Warning: This episode includes violence and the death of children under the age of one.

Sources:
Newspapers.com Access to archived newspaper editions from the Durham Sun, Morning Call, and East Penn Press
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1201?utm
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/mcall/name/andrew-katrinak-obituary?id=18087919
https://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1919-eda-2016.html
https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/socialhistory-crime-punishment/chpt/lindbergh-law#_
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/lindbergh-law
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6931475/joann_marie-katrinak
https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/tag/alex-katrinak/
https://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1919-eda-2016.html
Mal, Tammy. Convenient Suspect. Chicago Review Press, 2017.

Episode 234: Joann and Alex Katrinak | The Discovery: Part II Jun 23, 2026

Show notes

In today's episode we continue to discuss the case of Joann and Alex Katrinak. Part III will be made available this Sunday and our final Patreon episode for June will be released the following Tuesday.

Trigger warning: This case involves violence against a child under one.

Sources:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1201?utm
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/mcall/name/andrew-katrinak-obituary?id=18087919
https://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1919-eda-2016.html
https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/socialhistory-crime-punishment/chpt/lindbergh-law#_
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/lindbergh-law
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6931475/joann_marie-katrinak
https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/tag/alex-katrinak/
https://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1919-eda-2016.html
Mal, Tammy. Convenient Suspect. Chicago Review Press, 2017.

Episode 233: Joann and Alex Katrinak | The Disappearance: Part I Jun 14, 2026

Show notes

In the quiet borough of Catasauqua, Pennsylvania, the days leading up to Christmas in 1994 should have been filled with the familiar comforts of the season. Instead, an unsettling silence settled over a neighborhood when a young mother and her infant son seemingly vanished without a trace. Their home held troubling clues, their car would soon be found abandoned nearby, and a community accustomed to knowing its neighbors suddenly found itself gripped by fear and uncertainty.

As investigators searched for answers, rumors spread through the ornamented streets and suspicion seemed to fall in every direction. What happened inside that small Pennsylvania town would become one of the region's most haunting mysteries: a case marked by compulsion, secrets, and a trail of evidence that only seemed to raise more questions. Tonight, we follow the twists and turns of an investigation that would captivate the Lehigh Valley for years, and uncover a story far darker than anyone could have imagined.

Trigger warning: This case involves violence against a child under one.

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Sources:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1201?utm
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/mcall/name/andrew-katrinak-obituary?id=18087919
https://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1919-eda-2016.html
https://sk.sagepub.com/ency/edvol/socialhistory-crime-punishment/chpt/lindbergh-law#_
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/lindbergh-law
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6931475/joann_marie-katrinak
https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/tag/alex-katrinak/
https://law.justia.com/cases/pennsylvania/superior-court/2017/1919-eda-2016.html
Mal, Tammy. Convenient Suspect. Chicago Review Press, 2017.

Episode 232: Judith Johnson and Brooke Sutton | Hidden in Plain Sight Jun 02, 2026

Show notes

The stillness of the hot June morning in Barberton, OH was broken by the creaking of floorboards beneath the small feet of a six year old girl. She was unsure of what had happened or what she had suffered, she just knew she was scared. As she searched the home she was in, the brutality of the previous night revealed itself to her. Just hours earlier she had been laughing with her beloved grandmother and now she lay dead at her feet. Someone had slipped in their home in the middle of the night and destroyed a family’s world.

And yet, the most haunting part of this story wouldn’t be the bloodshed itself, it would be the years that followed. Because the little girl who staggered through the neighborhood at sunrise, traumatized and barely alive, carried with her the only account of what happened inside that house. Her words would shape the investigation, divide a family, and eventually help lead to justice because the killer had always been right there…

Sources:
https://www.newspapers.com/image/296313955/?match=1&terms=Clarence%20elkins
https://www.newspapers.com/image/297064102/?match=1&terms=Clarence%20elkins
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/32300943/judith_ann-johnson
https://www.cleveland19.com/story/6729058/prisoner-indicted-in-1998-murder-case/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wifes-detective-work-frees-hubby/
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/lkl/date/2005-12-26/segment/01
https://web.archive.org/web/20140715131515/http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17562131/ns/dateline_nbc-killer_instinct/t/killer-instinct/#.U63PM_boct4
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-ohnd-5_06-cv-03004/pdf/USCOURTS-ohnd-5_06-cv-03004-2.pdf
https://lawlit.net/adcrimlaw4/images/elkins_timeline-1.pdf
https://www.newspapers.com/image/1075753446/?match=1&terms=earl%20mann
https://magazine.uc.edu/editors_picks/recent_features/Innocence/elkins.html
https://content.next.westlaw.com/Document/Ice513343a49311df952a80d2993fba83/View/FullText.html?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)
https://innocenceproject.org/cases/clarence-elkins/
https://law.justia.com/cases/ohio/ninth-district-court-of-appeals/2003/2003-ohio-4522.html
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/5914b1beadd7b0493475b518
https://web.archive.org/web/20140403061401/http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/forensics/ff313_clarence_elkins/4.html
https://abcnews.com/US/hicks-baby-adoptee-sold-georgia-doctor-50-years/story?id=32743492

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