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Help, My ETF Got Hijacked by an Internet Flash Mob Feb 04, 2021

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ETFs tend to sit in the back seat while active players drive prices in the stock market. But what happens when the driver is a hellbent Reddit message board? Well, the world got a flavor of that last week when retail traders on the subreddit WallStreetBets sent a few meme stocks — most notably GameStop — "to the moon," temporarily hijacking a few ETFs in the process.

On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel are joined by Katherine Greifeld and Claire Ballentine of Bloomberg News, who plunged into the depths of Reddit and followed the fast-moving story closely. The group discusses all the ETF angles of this unusually riveting — and often even funny — story.

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Welcome to 2021 With Barry Ritholtz Jan 21, 2021

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It’s a new year, and maybe a new you. There’s also a completely new political landscape in Washington DC and probably another big round of stimulus money. What’s an investor to do? Talking to a financial advisor seems like a good first step.

On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel are joined once again by Barry Ritholtz, CEO of Ritholtz Wealth Management, who’s fielding all kinds of questions from clients right now. They discuss the new administration, his economic outlook, plus his views on Tesla, Bitcoin, ARK, and more.

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Is ARK the New Janus Twenty? Jan 07, 2021

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Cathie Wood of ARK is not the first highly concentrated active manager to shoot the lights out for half a decade while sparking a stampede of flows into their funds. There have been many throughout history but perhaps the one that most echoes ARK today is the famous Janus Twenty Fund, which dominated the latter half of the '90s and early 2000s with very similar returns and flows to what ARK is experiencing, albeit one met with a 50% downturn when the Internet bubble burst.

On this episode of Trillions, we speak to Scott Schoelzel, the former PM of the Janus Twenty during the fund's magical stretch from 1998 to 2007. Having lived through the ups and downs of cycles, he gives us his thoughts on the current situation with ARK, advice for the firm's investors as well as his takes on the state of active management, ETFs, the Fed and what he's up to these days living out on his farm in Colorado.

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The Jealousy List, ETF Edition Dec 24, 2020

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Covering ETFs this year was like trying to hit a constantly moving target. Businessweek's annual “Jealousy List” -- stories by other outlets that the magazine's staff wish they would've published -- inspired Eric and Joel to bring an ETF version of the idea to Trillions. On this episode, Katherine Greifeld, Claire Ballentine, and Yakob Petersseil of Bloomberg News, who specialize in covering ETFs, join them to discuss a few of the articles they wish they had written this year, about topics such as ETNs, volatility, target date funds, and concerns about index funds. Honorees include New York's Josh Barro; ETF Trends's Dave Nadig; WSJ's Akane Otani, Sebastian Pellejero and Chana Schoenberger; and Institutional Investor's Leanna Orr. Eric also highlights some of his favorites by his colleagues at Bloomberg News.

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21 ETFs to Watch in '21 Dec 10, 2020

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There’s so much going on in the ETF world right now as all kinds of trends, strategies, themes and companies collide in this hotter-than-ever market which is on pace to post another record year for inflows - and volume - in 2020. Next year could be even bigger too as many ‘Big Active’ mutual fund firms representing $10 trillion in assets look to make up for lost time.

So what should you watch for in 2021? Rather than do another “outlook” Bloomberg Intelligence’s ETF team has come out with a report that highlights 21 ETFs to watch 2021. Analysts Athanasios Psarafagis, James Seyffart and Morgan Barna join us to go over their contributions to the full list, which are as follows: DFAU, SPGP, ICVT, VXUS, GBTC, SNPE, OVL, SQQQ, ARKK, SVAL, MSOS, VTI, QQQJ, KMED, BATT, NETL, IBUY, SPAK, USMV, FDG and LQD.

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Invasion of the ANT ETFs Nov 26, 2020

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For years, active mutual funds sat and watched the boom in ETFs from the sidelines, unwilling to participate as it would mean showing their holdings every day. But now they can jump in thanks to a new type of structure that allow them to trade like an ETF but not have to show their holdings every day. These active non-transparent (ANT) ETFs are especially appealing to fund companies with trillions in assets.

On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel speak with Greg Friedman, Head of ETF Management and Strategy at Fidelity, and Scott Livingston, Global Head of ETFs at T. Rowe Price. Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Morgan Barna joins to discuss how the ETFs work, how the companies plan to find investors, and what to make of mutual funds conversions.

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Robots and the Future of Health Care Nov 12, 2020

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Thematic ETFs need to do two things to attract cash: crush the market and capture the imagination. There's no better example of this than the ETFs coming out of ROBO Global, the indie issuer responsible for the blockbuster hit ROBO and the newer upstart HTEC. The latter tracks the companies shaping the future of health care, and is currently doubling the returns of the S&P Health Care Index.

On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel speak with Nina Deka, an ETF specialist for the company who spent 13-plus years in the health care sector. The group discusses all the ways technology is changing health care, the intricate designs of HTEC and ROBO's indices, and how investors should think about using them in a portfolio.

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A Halloween-Inspired Stroll Through the ETF Graveyard (Which Is Getting Really Crowded) Oct 29, 2020

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Death has become a growing part of life in the ETF industry. The number closures in 2020 has already blown away the old record with the total number of gravestones already numbering more than 1,100 -- and that's with two months to go yet. One surprise: Few closures are directly related to the pandemic. So what's behind this year's shuttering? And what does it mean for investors?

On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel seek to answer these questions and more -- including how to take kids trick-or-treating -- with the help of Claire Ballentine, a cross-asset reporter for Bloomberg News, and Todd Rosenbluth, senior director of ETF and mutual fund research for CFRA.

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The 2020 SPAC Attack Hits ETF Land Oct 15, 2020

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One of the most interesting developments in finance this year has been the sudden popularity of the SPAC, or special-purpose acquisition company. A novel way to raise money and take companies public, SPACs are flourishing with more than 60 formed since the beginning of their big breakout year. And while they've certainly made headlines, they've actually existed for years.

On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel discuss the phenomenon and what it all means with Julian Klymochko of Accelerate Financial Technologies, a SPAC pioneer whose Canadian-listed $ARB ETF offers some exposure to what he considers a new asset class, as well as Josef Schuster of IPOX Schuster, whose index is used for the $FPX ETF that tracks recent IPOs -- and now one SPAC.

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The Secretive Committee Behind the S&P 500 Oct 01, 2020

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Few organizations in finance are as mysterious as the committee that oversees the S&P 500 — a group that recently decided to exclude Tesla despite the company seeming to check all the required boxes. On this episode of Trillions, Eric and Joel — along with Katherine Greifeld of Bloomberg News — speak with David Blitzer, who headed the S&P index committee from 1995 until his retirement in 2019. They discuss the Tesla tantrum, why the identities of committee members aren’t public, how the group makes decisions, criticisms of passive indexing, and even the hypothetical path Eric would need to take to get a seat at the table.

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