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    Transforming Engagement: The Podcast

    We host conversations about changes that serve a common good — and a higher good. We talk with ministry leaders, counselors, academics, practitioners, and more to learn about how change happens.

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    Gratitude in Advent: A Season of Waiting with Stephanie Bulthuis and Dr. Danielle Zurinsky Dec 01, 2024
    Show notes

    In our first episode of this 5-part series, Advent: A Season of Waiting, Stephanie Bulthuis and Dr. Danielle Zurinsky dive into the transformative power of gratitude. Drawing on research from positive psychology and their own experiences as parents, professionals, and long-time friends, they explore how gratitude can shift our perspectives, build resilience, and deepen empathy.

    Join us as we uncover how waiting, paired with gratitude, can help us find beauty and purpose—even in the midst of uncertainty.

    You can find a full transcript, show notes, and learn more about our podcast guests for each episode at transformingengagement.org/podcast


    Bonus Episode: Art & Faith with Shannon Sigler from Brehm Center Nov 19, 2024
    Show notes

    We're back with a special bonus episode! In this episode of Transforming Engagement: The Podcast, Dr. Rose Madrid Swetman sits down with Shannon Sigler, Executive Director of Brehm Center, to explore how the arts can uniquely bridge divides and foster community—especially in polarized times.

    We hope this conversation inspires you to think about ways you can bring art, creativity, and imagination into your faith practice and the communities you serve.

    You can learn more about Brehm Center at Fuller Theological Seminar at: brehmcenter.org/

    Brehm Center was one of the generous sponsors of the 2024 Christ & Cascadia Gathering, and today's conversation marks an approximate halfway point to next year's event!

    Be sure to save the date for the second annual Christ & Cascadia Gathering on May 2, 2025. You can sign up for event updates at:

    christandcascadia.com/gathering


    What We've Learned from Women in Ministry with Dr. Rose Madrid Swetman and Jenni Wong Clayville Sep 10, 2024
    Show notes

    This season, we've had the pleasure of speaking with so many wise women in ministry and engaging in enriching conversations with them. Now, Rose and Jenni sit down to reflect and wrap up the season by sharing their biggest takeaways and personal insights.

    If you've missed any episodes, don't worry! This recap will give you a quick overview of each one and hopefully inspire you to dive into the episodes that resonate most with you.

    Listen to the full season and find show notes at transformingengagement.org/podcast

    Find more resources for women in ministry at:

    https://transformingengagement.org/womeninministry


    An Emerging Generation of Women in Ministry with Rev. Cassie Carroll and Natalia Guzmán Sep 03, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode, co-hosts Rose and Jenni invite two young women serving in different ministry contexts across the United States: Rev. Cassie Carroll, head pastor of Palisades Presbyterian Church in San Diego, California, and Natalia Guzmán, Missions Faith Partnership Coordinator at National Community Church in Washington, D.C.

    Rev. Cassie Carroll is the first female pastor of a 135-year-old church in San Diego, leading an older congregation. She discusses the challenges of being a younger leader in a traditional setting and how she has focused on building relationships and listening to the particular needs of the church's neighbors.

    Natalia Guzmán shares her experience of making a significant career shift by moving to the United States to work in ministry. As someone who doesn't speak English as her primary language and is new to the U.S. context, she talks about feeling misunderstood. However, she found that what she initially perceived as a weakness became a strength, making her more relatable and approachable to many of the people she serves.

    Despite their different contexts—San Diego and Washington, D.C.—they both highlight the importance of understanding and engaging with their communities in unique ways. We hope this episode reminds you of the ways in which you are uniquely called and qualified to serve in your own context.

    Listener Resources:

    • If you're a woman in ministry, we're here to support you! Explore our curated collection of resources and specialized offerings designed to empower you in your calling. Discover more at transformingengagement.org/womeninministry

    • If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more, visit transformingengagemeng.org/circles


    How to Deal with Compassion Fatigue with Dr. Mary Kathryn Nader | Women in Ministry Aug 27, 2024
    Show notes

    If you've ever felt emotionally drained from caring for others, especially during tough times, this conversation is for you.

    Mary Kathryn Nader, Ph.D., LPC-S, PMH-C, is a licensed professional counselor in Texas who specializes in women's mental health, including postpartum depression, anxiety, grief, infertility, mom guilt, perfectionism, post-divorce, perinatal mental health, compassion fatigue, imposter syndrome, and more.

    She explains how compassion fatigue differs from burnout. It's that sense of overwhelm that comes from witnessing others' pain and struggles, and it can take a toll on both your mind and body. During the pandemic, she focused her dissertation research on women clergy, and the response was overwhelming. So many women in ministry opened up about feeling like they simply couldn't give anymore. This conversation isn't just about understanding the problem; it's also about finding hope and practical ways forward. Dr. Nader shares insights from her research and offers heartfelt recommendations for how we can continue to follow our calling to serve others in ministry, friendships, and family life—without losing ourselves in the process.

    The conversation shifts to imposter syndrome, a challenge more commonly experienced by women than men. Mary Kathryn notes that many women feel unqualified for their roles, a sentiment often rooted in a lack of female role models and societal support, particularly in environments that haven't traditionally embraced female leadership. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing these feelings without letting them take over, focusing on strengths, and seeking support from mentors and peers. Additionally, Dr. Nader highlights the role of faith, reminding women that God is working through them and that they are not alone on their journey.

    Ultimately, Mary Kathryn serves up a powerful reminder that even in the face of these challenges, support from others, self-compassion, and our faith can guide us toward healing and continued purpose.

    Listener Resources:

    • If you're a woman in ministry, we're here to support you! Explore our curated collection of resources and specialized offerings designed to empower you in your calling. Discover more at transformingengagement.org/womeninministry

    • If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, visit transformingengagemeng.org/circles

    • Each episode spotlights an organization making a positive impact. Mary Kathryn calls our attention to A Memory Grows, an organization that provides a space of healing and peace for parents who are grieving the death of their child. By bringing together those who have experienced a similar loss in a retreat setting we honor and celebrate our children while making connections with others who truly understand our journey. A memory grows where love carries on. Learn more at: https://amemorygrows.org/


    Leading Like a Woman with Inés Velásquez-McBryde | Women in Ministry Aug 20, 2024
    Show notes

    This week, we're joined by Inés Velásquez-McBryde, a pastor, preacher, reconciler, and mujerista theologian from Nicaragua and now residing in Southern California. She is the lead pastor and founder of The Church We Hope For.

    As a third-generation pastor, Inés shares her powerful journey of becoming the first female pastor in her family's lineage, drawing deeply from her Nicaraguan roots and the spiritual heritage of her ancestors. She highlights how her father, a "prophetic disruptor," played a crucial role in challenging traditional gender roles and encouraging her to lead.

    Inés reflects on the profound impact of her cultural and familial background, emphasizing the importance of honoring those who came before her as she leads with the power of her ancestors. She also introduces the concept of mujerista theology, which centers on the experiences of Latina women and seeks to dismantle patriarchal and colonial structures within the church.

    Throughout today's conversation, Inés invites us to consider how we can "lead like a woman," reclaiming our bodies, voices, and identities in spaces where women have often been marginalized.

    We think you'll want to listen more than once to fully absorb the wisdom shared in this episode!

    Listener Resources:

    • If you're a woman in ministry, we're here to support you! Explore our curated collection of resources and specialized offerings designed to empower you in your calling. Discover more at transformingengagement.org/womeninministry

    • If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, visit transformingengagemeng.org/circles

    • Each episode spotlights an organization making a positive impact. Inés calls our attention to The Center for Restorative Justice, which educates and equips individuals and communities to address the history of racial injustice and disrupt its ongoing impact by making the past present. We do this through experiential learning opportunities, educational cohorts, and embodied storytelling all grounded in spiritual practices. Learn more at: https://www.cfrjustice.org/


    Leadership, Advocacy, and Family with Rev. Jeanette Salguero | Women in Ministry Aug 13, 2024
    Show notes

    For those navigating the joys and challenges of co-leading with a partner or pursuing ministry alongside your family, you don't want to miss this episode! We're thrilled to talk with The Rev. Jeanette Salguero as she shares her inspiring calling as a wife, mother, pastor, and advocate.

    Growing up in a ministerial family, Jeanette felt a deep calling to serve. This calling extends to her family as she co-leads The Gathering Place, a vibrant multicultural church in Orlando, Florida, with her husband and serves alongside her sons. She also passionately advocates on behalf of Latino communities in the U.S., focusing on issues such as immigration, education, and health, through her work with The National Latino Evangelical Coalition.

    As she holds many roles, Jeanette emphasizes the importance of prayer, teamwork, and accountability. She and her husband strive to keep their family a priority while doing ministry. She beautifully describes their partnership: "Co-leading a church is a tango. It's a dance, a beautiful dance. Sometimes we are in sync, and sometimes we step on each other's toes… It's not easy work, but we have an abundance of grace and love for each other."

    Listen to learn how integrating faith, family, and community support into your ministry can not only enhance your leadership but also deepen your impact.

    Listener Resources:

    • If you're a woman in ministry, we're here to support you! Explore our curated collection of resources and specialized offerings designed to empower you in your calling. Discover more at transformingengagement.org/womeninministry

    • If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, visit transformingengagemeng.org/circles

    • Each episode spotlights an organization making a positive impact, and Jeanette highlights her organization, National Latino Evangelical Coalition, which is a network of Latino Evangelical churches, pastors, leaders and not-for-profit organizations committed to Gospel-centered transformation, empowering the church and working towards the common good. You can learn more at nalec.org.


    Following Your Calling with Faith Eury Cho | Women in Ministry Aug 06, 2024
    Show notes

    Join us as Faith Eury Cho shares her inspiring journey from a young girl seeking God to following her calling to become a preacher and leader in ministry. As the CEO and founder of The Honor Summit, a nonprofit organization that equips and activates Asian American women for the mission of God, Faith brings a wealth of experience and wisdom. Alongside her husband, Pastor David Cho, she is also the co-founder and co-pastor of Mosaic Covenant Church of NJ.

    Faith opens up about the challenges she faced as a minority female in ministry, often without role models and navigating the narcissistic tendencies of some leaders. Despite these obstacles, she emphasizes the sufficiency of God's presence, especially for those who feel marginalized in the church. She underscores that true impact in ministry comes from relying on God rather than seeking control or affirmation from others.

    Faith Eury Cho's story is one of resilience, grace, and deep spiritual intimacy. Her experiences offer valuable lessons on the importance of relying on God, the transformative power of wilderness seasons in shaping our faith, and the necessity of community and discernment in ministry.

    Listener Resources:

    • If you're a woman in ministry, we're here to support you! Explore our curated collection of resources and specialized offerings designed to empower you in your calling. Discover more at transformingengagement.org/womeninministry

    • If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, visit transformingengagemeng.org/circles

    • Each episode spotlights an organization making a positive impact, and Faith highlights her organization The Honor Summit, a nonprofit ministry dedicated to equipping and activating Asian American women for the mission of God. You can learn more about their work at thehonorsummit.com.

    Check out Faith Eury Cho's book, Experiencing Friendship with God: How the Wilderness Draws Us to His Presence.


    Leading with Grace in the Face of Resistance with Pastor Tara Beth Leach | Women in Ministry Jul 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Join us this week for an inspiring conversation with Tara Beth Leach, senior pastor at Good Shepherd Church in Naperville, Illinois, co-founder of Propel Ecclesia, and co-host of the Pastor's Table podcast. Tara Beth opens up about her journey as the first female millennial pastor of a mega church in Southern California, the resistance she has faced as a woman in ministry, and the invaluable support she has received from mentors, cohorts, and therapy to stay true to her calling.

    We think that Tara Beth's story will resonate with many female leaders in ministry, and if you hear anything from this episode (and this season) we hope you hear that you're not alone. If you're seeking support on your ministry journey, consider joining our Fall 2024 Resilience Circles. These 8-month programs offer a space to connect with others facing similar challenges and to develop more resilience to flourish in your calling. Learn more and join the waitlist to be the first to know when registration opens at transformingengagement.org/womeninministry.

    Listener Resources:

    • If you're a woman in ministry, we're here to support you! Explore our curated collection of resources and specialized offerings designed to empower you in your calling. Discover more at transformingengagement.org/womeninministry

    • If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, visit transformingengagemeng.org/circles

    • Each episode spotlights an organization making a positive impact, and Tara Beth is deeply committed to empowering women leaders through Propel Ecclesia. Discover more and support scholarships for women attending the 2025 cohorts here.

    • Look out for Tara Beth Leach's upcoming Bible study, Threaded: Unraveling Our Story Through God's Covenants, coming in 2025.


    The Call for Reparation and Reconciliation with Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil | Women in Ministry Jul 23, 2024
    Show notes

    With a profound commitment to social justice, Rev. Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil advocates for reconciliation that transcends superficial diversity and inclusion efforts, highlighting the necessity of reparations as a critical step towards genuine reconciliation.

    In this conversation co-hosted by Dr. Rose Madrid Swetman and Jenni Wong Clayville, Rev. Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil reflects on her personal journey into ministry, the challenges faced by women of color in predominantly white church spaces, and the importance of trailblazing for future generations.

    Be sure to check out Dr. Brenda's latest book, Empowered to Repair: Becoming People Who Mend Broken Systems and Heal Our Communities.

    In each episode, we ask our guests to highlight an organization that is doing good work in the world. Dr. Brenda gives a shout out to Christians for Biblical Equality, an international organization working to educate, advocate, and liberate women and men from Christian patriarchy. You can learn more about their work at:

    https://www.cbeinternational.org/

    Listener Resources:

    • If you're a woman in ministry, we're here to support you! Explore our curated collection of resources and specialized offerings designed to empower you in your calling. Discover more att transformingengagement.org/womeninministry

    If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, visit transformingengagemeng.org/circles


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