TraegerMethod Podcast

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Episode 86: Bobby Lane ( Early San Diego punk flyer artist, tattooer) Oct 17, 2023

Show notes

Hello and welcome!

Our ‘Legends of San Diego Punk’ series continues on the pod…

Episode 86 is a conversation with one of the great flyer artists of early 80’s ‘Slow Death’ scene, the very talented artist / tattooer Bobby Lane.

Bobby paints a picture of his experiences going to his first shows as a teenager in 1980 just as the ‘hardcore’ era was adding a new even more aggressive and stripped down feel to the punk/new wave style that came before.

He shares memories of San Diego / Los Angeles punk graphic masters Mad Marc Rude and Shawn Kerri. Two greats whose styles informed his own and pretty much every other punk who’s ever picked up a pen in their wake, myself included.

We talk about tattooing in San Diego and the evolution of the craft from the earlier period of wall flash, sailors and bikers to the modern era of bespoke designs and market saturation.

We go on to discuss how the rebellious spirit at the heart of punk naturally leads to endless cycles of orthodoxy and overthrow as new generations reimagine, reinvent and make it their own. He cites SD experimental/ecstatic collective/band Crash Worshipas the embodiment of this spirit without any of the proscribed stylistic cues.

I know you’ll enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed talking with Bobby. I look forward to having him back on the pod soon.

Thank you for listening!

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LINKS

Bobby's Instagram

In reference to my episode intro:

Israel/Palestine vids from AJ+

How Israel Was Created

How Israel Automated Occupation in Hebron

Palestinian voice: Noura Erakat

Dr Gabor Mate On Trauma

Music:

Bobby's band Cholla

Crash Worship live in Bremen 1996

TMpod theme by Jason

Episode 85: Chris Squire (Part one with this San Diego punk legend) Oct 02, 2023

Show notes

Hello and Welcome, dear listener.

Episode 86 is the beginning of a conversation with San Diego punk legend Chris Squire. Chris has done it all, he’s run a record label, booked bands, done sound production, and he’s either sung, played bass, guitar or drums in a ton of bands; PG13, The Tori Cobras, Belle Cora, Tit Wrench, Tiltwheel, Battalion of Saints, Russian Tremors, Kerosene, Tar Halos, Dark Sarcasm, TV Eye, Digital Leather, Bizarro Son, No Laughing Matter, Dog Boy, Royal Pains, Half On Tongue, Sloog, Blades, Unit Unit, Go Go Lords, King Wheelie, Plasticman, Cholla … to name most of them?

Part one of the Squire story really starts around 1980 when he begins attending The San Diego School of the Creative and Performing Arts where he meets his guitar and boombox toting soon to be lifelong friend John Reis who introduces him to Dead Kennedys and Black Flag and sets him on a course that takes us through to Chris starting his first band PG13 later in the 80’s. Amazingly, the first hardcore show he attends in 1984 is an Aggression and Ill Repute show at Fairmount Hall that my friends and I produced! A very cool factoid I did not know.

Along the way, as Chris’ story unfolds we get a road map of the SD punk family tree in the 80's that is a really great historical record, told in his engaging and colorful style the conversation is as compelling and entertaining as it is information dense.

I’m glad to share this episode with you all and I’m looking forward to part two as well!

Thank you for listening and for supporting the podcast!

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Music:

Fishwife: 'Chad' (feat. Squire name drop)

Conservative Itch: live in '86 pulled from Youtube

TMpod theme by Jason

Episode 84: Lia Friedman and Britt Neubacher celebrate the life of Rick Froberg Sep 17, 2023

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Episode 84 is a conversation between myself, Lia Friedman and Britt Neubacher celebrating the life of artist and musician Rick Froberg.

Lia and Britt have been friends for decades and the two were close friends of Rick’s going back to the 80’s. Britt tells us how in recent years her relationship with Rick transformed into an intimate partnership that she felt was still only beginning at the time of his untimely death. While Britt is a new friend of mine, I’ve known Lia since we were classmates at San Dieguito HS in Encinitas, California.

The two share their memories of coming of age in the vital and influential North County San Diego punk/post-hardcore scene of the 80’s and 90’s, a scene that produced bands like Crash Worship, Heavy Vegetable, Boilermaker, powerdresser and Rick’s bands Pitchfork and Drive Like Jehu among others.

Of course, most of the conversation focuses on celebrating the immensely talented, perpetually intellectually curious, self-educated, complicated genius that was Rick Froberg the man and the artist and musician.

Rick Froberg Forever!

Links:

RickFrobergForever instagram

Britt Neubacher's Tend Project

Lia Friedman instagram

Deathlesss Neverborn Podcast

powerdresser

Heavy Vegetable

Boilermaker

Music:

Hot Snakes: Audit in Progress

Big Boys: Red/Green

TMpod theme by Jason

Episode 83: Brian Gathy (End On End Podcast, DC punk) Aug 26, 2023

Show notes

Episode 83 is a conversation with prolific podcaster and veteran DC punk Brian Gathy.

Brian is co-host of End On End, a pod that examines every Discord Records title in the order they were released, he also singlehandedly produces and hosts The Unanimous Hour dedicated to deciphering the fractal brilliance of DC band Lungfish’s catalog of songs as well as Dweller On the Threshold which explores the music of Van Morrison.

Our conversation touches on those projects but the bulk of our talk focuses on a new podcast (my second, his FOURTH) that we discuss and name during the course of this episode. The new pod will be called Deathless Neverborn and is dedicated to exploring what might be called ‘the spiritual journey’ primarily from a Buddhist and Non-dual perspective.

Having just met, we share how the idea for the pod came to be and we open up about some of the formative experiences that have shaped our lives and led us to want to make a pod like DN.

So here it is dear listener, the birth of Deathless Neverborn podcast!

Thank you SO MUCH for listening and for supporting the pod!

Traegermethod Patreon

Music:

Rites of Spring 'End On End'

Jason Traeger 'Neutralize Existence'

Episode 82: Sean Kelly Returns! Aug 11, 2023

Show notes

Episode 82 is a free-form conversation with TMpod bestie Sean Kelly (Tight Bros From Way Back When bassist, Derrick Tape originator, Father etc.)

Together we talk: Sean's pre-punk years as a Marine kid moving around, Toronto radio in the early 80's, San Diego 'Alternative' format pioneer 91X, the lives and careers of Sinead O'Connor and Pee Wee Herman, UFO/UAP disclosure, the horrors of Late-Stage Capitalism, and our mutual rediscovered love of playing music and musical gear among other subjects.

Content warning: We also get into some talk about pain and suicide. Hopefully we handle the subject respectfully but thought I'd let you know we do talk about it.

Thank you so much for listening!

Show note links:

Maui Fire Support

Rev Left Radio Podcast

Wildfire Project

Blindboy Podcast

The Intercept article

SUPPORT THE POD: Patreon THANK YOU!!

Music:

91X clip from 08/01/1984

Pee Wee Playhouse theme by Mark Mothersbaugh, Paul Reubens and George McGrath

Closing YouTube clip by James Rundle

TMpod theme by Jason

Episode 81: Jason bends and folds time while sharing some musical flow and love to TM pod listeners Jul 26, 2023

Show notes

Hello Deathless Neverborn,

I had to toss a conversation with previous TM pod guest Don Ankrom because of some technical difficulties (aka heavy nose breathing on my part and a non-stop barking wiener dog named Enzo) so I am offering TM pod listeners a remix of that episode's introduction with some of my music thrown in for color and intrigue. It's a new twist on the podcast you love. ...you do love it right?

Some links of people and places mentioned in the episode:

Host of the open mic I played Johnny Franco

Place I played the open mic: Craft Factory

Place I played a show: Mother Foucault's Books

Poet Dehlia Ackley

Musician Caspar Sonnet

TMPOD PATREON

Music by Jason

Episode 80: Rick Froberg Remembered Jul 08, 2023

Show notes

Episode 80 is a celebration of Rick Froberg's life and a celebration of life in general. I'm flying solo here, strolling down memory lane on a summer morning.

When I started the TMpod I did so with the goal of connecting and reconnecting with old friends and sharing those conversations with whoever might want to listen. Rick was an early guest (Episode 15) because he was top of my list of people I wanted to reconnect with. I loved the guy even though we hadn't hung out in years. I always took special joy in making him laugh and we did laugh together again on that episode which felt great.

I had Rick's name on my list of guests I wanted to have back on the pod but was waiting until the new Hot Snakes record was out to have him on again, I see now that was a mistake. Lesson learned: don't wait!

Much love to all Rick's family, friends and fans. His memory, music and art live on in all of us who have been touched by his life and work.

Thanks for listening and for supporting the pod!

LINKS:

Tour Stories Podcast tribute to Rick Froberg

Plants of the Gods Podcast

Snowmade

I got the name of this shop wrong, it's not Blue Moon Music it's Moonlight Music

William S. Burrough's Dream machine

SUPPORT THE POD THANK YOU!

TM pod theme by Jason

Episode 79: The Return of Tony Rettman! (Why Be Something That You’re Not: Detroit Hardcore 1979-1985 2nd edition) Jun 19, 2023

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TraegerMethod Pod Episode 79 celebrates the return of writer, NO IDOLS HC kingpin Tony Rettman!

Tony has literally written the book on hardcore punk having penned three crucial books on the subject; NYHC: New York Hardcore 1980-1990 , Straight Edge and his first book Why Be Something That You’re Not: Detroit Hardcore 1979-1985. That book is about to be reissued in a new edition on June 21st through Revelation Records.Tony will have 100 signed copies with the rare green cover available through his NO IDOLS site, so be quick!

(LINKS BELOW!)

Before we get into the book, we talk about Tony’s life today living with multiple health concerns, the foremost of which is cancer. He shares some funny stories from the frontlines and some wisdom learned in the process of dealing with everything. I know all us TM Pod people wish him well and I’m grateful he shared his experience with us.

I've been obsessed with The Sopranos since I started rewatching it when I had Covid. Tony and I discuss the show and and we get some insight into New Jersey culture from one who has definitely lived it. I really enjoyed talking with Tony and I know you’ll dig listening! Thank you again Tony for joining me and THANK YOU TO ALL TM POD SUPPORTERS AND LISTENERS. If you like the pod, please tell a friend.

Music:

Negative Approach 'Nothing'

The Fix 'Vengeance'

TM pod theme by Jason

LINKS:

BUY THE BOOK

NO IDOLS

Support the pod:

PATREON

Episode 78: The Very Special "Jason finally got Covid-19" Special May 27, 2023

Show notes

As the episode title suggests Episode 78 is The Very Special ‘Jason finally got Covid 19’ Special episode of the TM pod.

A solo thang recorded straight from my sick bed, in it I share some body sounds and assorted horror, tales of the virus, live music reviews, thoughts on my own musical journey and our entertainment saturated culture and some of my current flix pix from the streaming services. I also celebrate the lives and music of Tina Turner and Elliot Smith.

Heretofore and furthermore I share an account of an algorithmic journey I took on YouTube that went from researching my Covid related ear-clicking condition middle ear myoclonus to exploring the culture and music of Newfoundland where I encountered the music of NF folk revivalists The Dardanelles and the much celebrated keeper of the flame of NF folk music the late Rufus Guinchard. All this by way of via Brian Johnson of AC/DC.

It’s a hell of ride and we live, love, laugh and (almost) cry along the way. So mask up and strap in for the ride.

Thank you SO MUCH for listening and for supporting the pod.

If you don't currently but would like to: PATREON

If you can't contribute but you like what I do PLEASE TELL A FRIEND about the pod.

Much love and gratitude to you all, each and everyone.

LINKS:

You can just look up 'middle ear myoclonus' if you want to go deeper into my ear situation.

Music:

Plain Wrap ‘Red Light’

The Dardanelles: (doing a tune from a live performance on Youtube, no title was given)

Rufus Guinchard: (also doing an unnamed tune from a short CBC news documentary from the early 80's on YouTube)

TM pod theme REMIX by Jason

Episode 77: Hutch Harris May 20, 2023

Show notes

Hello and welcome and HAPPY SPRING.

Episode 77 is the return of Hutch Harris to the pod. We talk about the formation of his new band Clear Rivers with Jordan Hudson the original drummer of his beloved former band The Thermals. The band's recently released self titled LP is out now and it's a smash that listeners must check out. We also talk pretty extensively about psychedelics and the pro's and cons of altered states of mind. There's also a bit of discussion of home recording and the differences between 'lo-fi' and 'hi-fi lo-fi'

It's great to have Hutch back on the pod, the episode is a lot of fun and I thank you very much for listening and for SUPPORTING THE POD!

LINKS:

Clear Rivers

Hutch's instagram

TraegerMethod podcast PATREON

Music:

Clear Rivers 'Dead Star' and 'You're Not Here'

TMpod theme by Jason