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    Three Dogs North

    Three Dogs North are Juice, C-Bisc, and Michael Metz. Topics are carelessly selected and poorly researched. The strength of the project lies in the fact that there is no way of knowing its audience. So please come in, grab a seat, and enjoy. Contact the Dogs at threedogsnorth@gmail.com Follow us @ThreeDogsNorth

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    S11 Episode 17 – Clean exit Dec 16, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about what it means to lead by love and treat others as “an end in themselves” (14:10). Their conversation on leadership spans baseball (0:50), combat (20:18), parish life (25:40), fatherhood (28:30), cycling (36:30), and basketball (33:37).

    Quotes:

    “How can you not be romantic about baseball?” (Brad Pitt, 03:00)

    “Take care of those who are entrusted to you in the flesh.” (Rob, 5:38)

    “The person is the kind of good which does not admit of use and cannot be treated as an object of use and as such the means to an end. The person is the kind of good towards which the only proper and adequate attitude is love.” (St. Pope John Paull II, 14:10)

    “Being a leader requires asking other people to make sacrifices and that’s harder than just making sacrifices yourself.” (Rob, 19:43)

    “Work is dignified.” (Mike, 28:10)

    “I no longer call you slaves, because a slave does not know what his master is doing. I have called you friends, because I have told you everything I have heard from my Father.” (John 15:15, 30:05)

    Media Mentions:

    • Ken Burns’ Baseball (1994)
    • Moneyball (2011)
    • Michael Lewis’s Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game
    • Fr. Karol Wojtyla’s (St. Pope John Paull II) Love and Responsibility
    • Steven Pressfield’s Gates of Fire: An Epic Novel of the Battle of Thermopylae
    • Jason Hehir’s (ESPN and Netflix) The Last Dance (2020)
    • Allen Iverson’s practice press conference (7:21)
    • Ted Lasso (2020- present)
    • Marina Zenovich’s (ESPN) 30 for 30 “LANCE”
    • Every Time Michael Jordan Took It Personal

    Shout-Outs:

    • Cor Coffee
    • Jonah Hill
    • Philip Seymour Hoffman
    • Fr. Mike Schmitz
    • FOCUS
    • Leonidas
    • Bishop Bartosic
    • Monica (manager at Cor Coffee)
    • Brian Snitker
    • Michael Jordan
    • Horace Grant
    • Scottie Pippen
    • Luc Longley
    • Chicago Bulls
    • Detroit Pistons
    • Karl Malone
    • Charles Barkley
    • Megan Ulrich
    • Jon Kearney

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 16 – Tears of God Dec 09, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about Michael Metz’s lack of a nickname (00:30), pig iron plants (02:30), and how to get out of the stone age (05:20). Connor returns to last episode‘s conversation about expectations and desires (08:00), Rob speaks about the temptation to squash desire (11:50) and the fruits of Kreeft’s book on suffering in one of his small groups (12:30). The dogs proceed to talk about suffering (22:58) demons in Tobit (29:40) and why God won’t answer Job’s questions (36:00).

    Quotes:

    “Suffering has made me more myself.” (Connor, 22:58)

    “I don’t want this grief to go away.” (quote from Andrew Garfield, 24:36)

    “The more you love, the more you suffer.” (Connor, 25:30)

    “The only real meaning of human life is love and yet the more you let go of your own expectations and enter into communion with the other, the more you make yourself vulnerable.” (Connor, 27:51)

    “Even in suffering there can be love. It’s not either joy or suffering, but the possibility of joy in suffering.” (Michael Metz, 32:00)

    “I’m not answering questions so that the questions go away.” (Connor, 36:00)

    “I have found enough clues to live by.” (quote from Peter Kreeft, 37:10)

    “The only thing that satisfied the human heart is a face.” (Michael Metz, 39:00)

    Media Mentions:

    • Pig Iron
    • Alone: The Arctic (TV 2015- present)
    • Peter Kreeft’s Making Sense Out of Suffering
    • C.S. Lewis’s Till We Have Faces
    • Peter Kreeft’s talk on Till We Have Faces
    • Luigi Giussani’s The Religious Sense (Chapter 1 for more on “elementary experience”)
    • Andrew Garfield on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
    • Tobit 8:5-7
    • John Paul II’s Salvifici Doloris
    • Job, The Book of
    • Sheldon Vanauken’s A Severe Mercy
    • Blade Runner (1982)

    Shout-outs:

    • Joe Pug
    • Katy Dornbos
    • Jon Kearney
    • Jordan B. Peterson
    • G.K. Chesterton
    • Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI)
    • Fyodor Dostoevsky

    Miscellany:

    • (07:05) Bow Drill

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 15 – Super spreader of joy Dec 02, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about college football coaching shake-ups (00:33), the start of Advent (05:40), and the altar server pizza party at Mike’s parish (07:10). Mike asks the other dogs how they find a balance between desire and expectation (16:10). Rob describes the mystics and their posture of holy indifference as a way to heal from human expectations (21:22) and Connor pinpoints freedom as the main difference between desire and expectations (21:46). Mike very vulnerably acknowledges his own unmet expectations of priesthood and the healing transformation that came from giving those expectations back to the Lord (32:29). They finish up with some classic ribbing on “faith journeys” and “seasons” (39:55).

    Quotes

    • “Do I know You well enough now Lord and trust You, that I can take this desire seriously, but have a holy indifference to the expectation that may come with it?” (Rob, 21:22)
    • “The difference between desire and expectation is freedom; you allow the other to be free.” (Connor, 21:48)
    • ”God does not have expectations of me. He wants something for me, not something from me.” (Connor, 23:42)
    • “It’s a limitation on desire when we get wrapped up in expectations.” (Mike, 25:00)
    • “Existing in hope is tense, to be constantly fighting against expectations and allowing desire to flourish, even though you know the more you desire, the less this world is going to be able to satisfy those desires and the more you have to point your heart to God, that often looks like the cross. It’s seriously painful.” (Connor, 31:12)
    • “I wanna turn to the reality of this vocation, so instead of focusing on the limitedness of this desire, I can let that go. You realize you’re holding onto something that was too small and that the Lord wants something more for you.” (Mike, 33:15)
    • “To be able to articulate our expectations and then give them to the Lord is a way of giving our humanity to Christ, which then allows Him to transform it into His Divine desire.” (Mike, 34:54)
    • “If you can find that distinction, between expectation and desire, that is where humanity lives.” (Rob, 37:12)
    • “God gives me whatever I want because whatever God gives me, that’s what I want.” (Connor summarizing Scott Hahn who was quoting St. Therese of Lisieux, 38:52)
    • “Grace is not cheap.” (Mike invoking Rob who was verbatim quoting Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 39:55)

    Media Mentions

    • Notre Dame vs Illinois (11/29 men’s basketball)
    • Pacific Rim (2013)
    • Jordan B. Peterson’s The 4 Horsemen of Meaning
    • St. John of the Cross’ Dark Night of the Soul

    Shout-outs

    • Notre Dame Football
    • Georgia Bulldogs
    • Brian Kelly
    • Lincoln Riley
    • University of Southern California, Los Angeles
    • Louisiana State University
    • Pete Carroll
    • University of California, Los Angeles
    • Rams
    • Chargers
    • Philip Rivers (preceding day 3 keynote at SLS20)
    • Cor Coffee
    • FOCUS
    • Theresa (Mike’s sister)
    • Jordan B. Peterson
    • Bishop Robert Barron
    • St. John of the Cross
    • Fr. John Kartje
    • Fr. Timothy Gallagher
    • Fr. Walter Ciszek
    • Scott Hahn
    • St. Therese of Lisieux
    • Dietrich Bonhoeffer

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 14 – Never skip leg day Nov 25, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs catch up about beef milk (02:55) Mike’s grandfather (09:07) and Squid Game (13:10). Connor brings up Hildebrand’s delineation of the classical man (18:41). Rob then asks for an explanation of those fundamental principles (22:02) and they all discuss.

    Quotes:

    • “I am going to be a human being in the world and not let technology trump my humanity and my embodiedness.” (Connor 20:52)
    • “Sanctity never goes out of style.” (Connor 23:15)
    • “Everything stops for a funeral.” (Fr. Baima 25:50)
    • “To be fully alive is to be small.” (Connor 35:00)

    Media Mentions:

    • Parks and Recreation (2019- 2015)
    • TikTok
    • Slack
    • Google Docs
    • Squid Game (2021)
    • Parasite/Gisaengchung (2019)
    • Dune (2021)
    • Blade Runner (1982)
    • Dietrich von Hildebrand’s Liturgy and Personality (The Classical Spirit in the Liturgy)
    • Robert Bolt’s A Man for All Seasons (play)
    • Jordan B. Peterson’s The 4 Horsemen of Meaning
    • Taco Bell’s Taco Neck
    • G.K. Chesterton’s Tremendous Trifles
    • Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1989)

    Shout-outs:

    • Starbucks
    • UGG Boots
    • Fr. Gus
    • Mike’s grandfather
    • Dave Ramsey
    • Connor’s dad
    • St. John Paul II Newman Center
    • Cor Coffee
    • Juice Box
    • Maximilian Kolbe
    • Fr. Paul Porter
    • Fr. Oakes
    • Fr. Baima
    • St. Thomas More
    • Jordan B. Peterson
    • Bishop Robert Barron
    • John Vervaeke
    • Jonathan Pageau

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 13- That was delicious Nov 17, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about early mornings (1:50), trucks (9:40), and beards (10:00). Connor considers what it means to be overwhelmed by beauty (6:45) and Rob asks the dogs to differentiate possessions and belongings (12:50). They all discuss how to have a healthy attachment to material goods (19:55), their plans for the end of the world (39:10), and approaching the final horizon of death as a saint (43:08).

    Quotes:

    “The human heart is wired for God.” (Connor, 7:22)

    “We have a longing for God, which is goodness.” (Mike 25:30)

    “It’s important to have a relationship with things according to reality.” (Connor 29:55)

    “Part of walking through the pilgrimage of life is being properly attached to the things that belong to you, but not in a way that makes them your final end.” (Connor, 31:50)

    “The only thing you get to take with you is what you’ve given away.” (Cardinal George, 32:07)

    “Here was a man words cannot describe. Death could not defeat him nor toil dismay him. He was quite without a preference of his own; he neither feared to die nor refused to live. “ (second reading from the Office of Readings on November 11th)

    Media:

    • Impossible without Him- Season 7 Episode 10 (marathon story starts at 24:49)
    • Family Feud
    • Erazim’s Kohák’s The Embers and the Stars
    • Wendell Berry’s Jayber Crow
    • Henry David Thoreau’s Walden Pond
    • Antoine de Saint-Exupéry’s The Little Prince (Chapter 13)
    • Luke 17:11-19 (Jesus heals the ten men with leprosy)
    • Friedrich Nietzsche’s Eternal Recurrence
    • Robert Hugh Benson’s Lord of the World
    • SNL’s What Up With That?

    Shout-Outs:

    • SEEK 2019 (Indianapolis, IN)
    • Steve Harvey
    • Alex Trebec
    • Gable (the Great)
    • Sr. Alicia, Sr. Kara Davis, and Sr. Kate
    • Jon Kearney
    • SEEK 2020 (Phoenix, AZ)
    • Ben Hasse
    • 1997 Ford F-250
    • Fr. Nick Blaha
    • Cardinal George
    • Bishop Paprocki
    • Jay Leno
    • Astros
    • Cardinals
    • Michael Scott
    • Martin of Tours
    • Pope St. John Paul II Chapel (Mundelein Seminary, IL)
    • Pope Francis
    • Joe Pug

    Dog Wisdom

    • Rob starts the day by saying, “Thank you Lord for this day.” (2:00)

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 12 – Spirit of the crowd Nov 03, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about the Atlanta Braves (0:34) and “baseball guys” (04:00). Rob brings up the objective characteristics of beauty (9:01) and his concerns over Facebook’s newest attempts to make the internet even more immersive (16:30). Connor critiques some recently viewed dystopian films (22:50). Mike speaks about the limits of technology as it relates to the human experience (34:21) and they all discuss what it means to be “gripped by the spirit of love” (36:30) so as to experience a foretaste of Heaven.

    Quotes:

    “Beauty is the manifestation of truth.” (Denis McNamara, 9:27)

    “Relating to God in a true way helps you relate to human beings in a more embodied way.’ (Connor, 31:50)

    “Part of the enticement of technology is that it gives the façade that we are capable of handling more than we actually are.” (Mike, 34:21)

    “We have an infinite desire to relate.” (Connor, 35:50)

    Media:

    • Chris Ballard’s One Shot at Forever
    • Ken Burns’ Baseball (1994)
    • Bishop Robert Barron’s “Catholicism and Beauty” // 2018 LA Religious Congress Talk (40:20)
    • Facebook
    • Google
    • Ready Player One (2018)
    • Blade Runner (1982)
    • Chappie (2015)

    Shout-Outs:

    • Brian Snitker
    • Macon, IL
    • Macon, GA
    • Joe Madden
    • Dusty Baker
    • Premier League
    • Bill Belichick
    • Cor Coffee
    • Bishop Robert Barron
    • John Madden
    • Gable (the Great)
    • Megan Ulrich
    • Jacelyn from UIC (sorry….)
    • Jordan B. Peterson
    • Truist Park
    • Chicago Bulls
    • Trent Schmidt
    • Mundelein
    • March Madness
    • Kansas State Basketball
    • Mark Zuckerberg
    • Miguel Montero

    Dog Wisdom:

    • Objective characteristics of beauty: Integrity (integritas), Clarity (claritas), and Composition (consonantia). (09:00)
    • A-R-R-R Prayer (31:40)

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 11- Hierarchy of goods Oct 20, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs discuss the renovations to the chapel at UIC (01:35). Mike brings up a Ratzinger quote about the Eucharist as thanksgiving (04:40) and Connor responds with some thoughts on what it means to live as a human who appropriately responds to value (11:12). They close by discussing how to authentically embrace suffering (14:20) and Rob brings the conversation back to Christ’s humanity and His intimate relationship with us (20:05).

    Quotes:

    “Is the entirety of my existence transformed into thanksgiving?” (Mike, 06:55 in response to Ratzinger’s quote)

    “Can I offer up my limitations, my lack, as a way to glorify God?” (Mike, 08:53)

    “The normal person is the one who responds to value according to the hierarchy of goods.” (Connor, 11:12 in summary of Hildebrand)

    “God doesn’t heal places, he heals people.” (Jim Rafferty, 20:05)

    Media:

    • Jordan B. Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life-Rule (#8 “Tell the truth-or, at least, don’t lie”)
    • Usedchurchitems.com
    • Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger’s God Is Near Us: The Eucharist, the Heart of Life
    • Dietrich von Hildebrand’s Liturgy and Personality
    • Brian Regan’s The Emergency Room (broken femur)
    • C.S. Lewis’s A Horse and His Boy
    • Leo Tolstoy’s Death of Ivan Ilyich
    • Art of Manliness The 7 Habits: Begin With the End in Mind

    Shout-Outs:

    • All Saints St. Anthony in Bridgeport
    • St. John Cantius Church
    • Cardinal Cody
    • Sistine Chapel
    • Maximilian Kolbe
    • Bishop Robert Barron
    • Christopher Daniels
    • Pinecrest Academy
    • Jim Rafferty
    • Jocelyn from UIC

    Dog Wisdom:

    • “To be full, you have to be empty” (Rob, 31:17)

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 10 – Keep the edge Oct 14, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about situations when anger is the appropriate response to evil.

    Connor recounts his experience at a recent Joe Pug concert in Berwyn, IL (02:30) and Rob’s nine-year-old nephew shot his first deer (04:45). Rob shared the fruit of his five-day silent retreat (08:30) and the encouragement he received to have anger toward evil (12:24) to the extent that it reflects God’s own steadfast resistance to sin and death (25:50). Connor brings up Lewis’s reflections on God as a skilled surgeon and they all reflect on their experiences of celibacy (37:43).

    Quotes:

    “Keep the edge. Don’t let go of the edge.” (Linda Couri, 12:24)

    “It’s God’s goodness that is almost scary because He’s not going to stop until I’m all the way healed.” (Connor, 28:31 in response to A Grief Observed)

    “I get to wake up every morning, 5 am, make some soup!” (Ignacio, 38:21)

    Media Mentions:

    • Dietrich Von Hildebrand’s The Heart
    • The Hulk
    • C.S. Lewis’s A Grief Observed (pg. 43)
    • Nacho Libre
    • Seinfeld

    Shout-Outs:

    • Jon Kearney
    • Joe Pug
    • Berwyn, IL
    • Fr. Bob Crouger
    • St. Rene Goupil
    • Fr. Bob Regan
    • Juice Box (Rob’s nephew)
    • Linda Couri
    • Fr. John Kartje
    • Fr. Lawrence Hennessey
    • Fr. Brian Welter (Old Welt Dog)
    • Jesper Parnevik
    • Fr. Emil Kapaun

    Miscellany:

    • fantasy justice (14:15)
    • affective movements (22:20)
    • void of reciprocity (31:10)

    Follow the dogs on Instagram @threedogsnorth and Facebook @threedogsnorth

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 9 – Box of exploding kittens Oct 06, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about how to take care of Gremlins (2:10) and exploding kittens (4:40). Connor shares his fear of unmet expectations (6:30) and they all discuss what it means to ultimately trust that God is a good father (11:30) who will provide for his children (13:00). Rob asks for grace on his upcoming retreat (19:45) and they all come up with the characteristics of a stout heart (Rob, 21:31; Mike, 23:10; Connor: 25:20).

    Quotes:

    “I am not the architect of my own life and the happiness that is in store for me is not because I’ve planned it or because I chose the right thing.” (Connor, 8:30)

    “My life is a story that is being written by God, not me.” (Connor, 11:05)

    “You just have to be a kid and let the Father provide, because sometimes you forget to put on your pants.” (Mike, 13:05)

    “A stout heart is not looking for anything other than reality.” (Rob, 22:45)

    “I want my heart to be convicted of the things I assent to believe with my mind.” (Mike, 25:00)

    “When one enjoys consolation, let him consider how to conduct himself during the time of ensuing desolation, and store up a supply of strength as defense against that day.” (St. Ignatius of Loyola’s Spiritual Exercises 323, 25:20)

    “A stout heart is confronting reality with the absolute courage and conviction that the Lord is in it, that there is no better reality if I had just planned ahead better.” (Connor, 27:25)

    “To be somebody or to do something. In life there is often a roll call. That’s when you will have to make a decision. To be or to do? Which way will you go?” (John Boyd, 29:35)

    “The more and more I’m radically available, the more and more people will come and demand my love for them.” (Mike, 32:15)

    Media Mentions:

    • Antlers (2021)
    • Gremlins (1984)
    • Band of Brothers: Bastogne (2001)
    • 1 Corinthians 2:9
    • George Weigel’s The Fragility of Order (in reference to stouthearted friendship with Bishop Borys Gudziak and Bishop Robert Barron)
    • St. Ignatius of Loyola’s Spiritual Exercises
    • Robert Coram’s Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War

    Shout-Outs:

    • Cor Coffee
    • Box of Exploding Kittens
    • Unstable Unicorns
    • Major Winters
    • Bishop Bob Lombardo
    • St. Ignatius of Loyola
    • George Weigel
    • Bishop Robert Barron
    • Connor’s Dad
    • John Boyd
    • Hans Urs von Balthasar (ego-drama vs. theo-drama)

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


    S11 Episode 8 – All man, all priest Sep 29, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, the dogs talk about a Korean War chaplain who is a candidate for canonization as well as the specific graces they are praying for right now.

    Connor talks about a redo July 4th celebration in September (4:48) and Mike shares that he will be attending Fr. Emil Kapaun’s funeral mass in Wichita, KS (6:50). Rob asks the group for help in discerning what graces to ask for on his upcoming retreat (10:45). Connor and Rob circle around the idea of Divine intimacy (11:35) and Mike shares his recent desire for a decluttered heart in prayer (13:11). The dogs close out the episode sharing inspiring stories about Fr. Kapaun’s leadership and his servant’s heart (18:24)

    Quotes:

    “All man, all priest.” (description of Fr. Emil Kapaun, 8:56)

    “When God wants someone to die for sin, he sends his son.” (from Monsieur Vincent, 26:55)

    Media Mentions:

    • John Philip Sousa
    • Toby Keith’s “The Angry American”
    • Lee Greenwood’s “Proud to Be an American”
    • Travis Heying and Roy Wenzl’s The Miracle of Father Kapaun: Priest, Soldier, and Korean War Hero
    • Monsieur Vincent (1947)
    • Step Brothers

    Shout-Outs:

    • Anthony (Mike’s Nephew)
    • Ryder Cup
    • Fr. Emil Kapaun
    • Bishop Carl A. Kemme
    • The Blessed Mother
    • St. Francis
    • St. Vincent de Paul
    • Le Louvre
    • Netflix
    • Pierre and Cecile Roux
    • Lisieux, France
    • Will Ferrell

    Contact us at threedogsnorth@gmail.com


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