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    This Sustainable Life

    Do you care about the environment but feel “I want to act, but if no one else does, it won’t make a difference,” and “But if you don’t solve everything, it isn’t worth doing anything”?

    We are the antidote! You’re not alone. Hearing role models overcome the same feelings to enjoy acting on their values creates meaning, purpose, community, and emotional reward.

    Want to improve as a leader? Bestselling author, 3-time TEDx speaker, leadership speaker, coach, and professor Joshua Spodek, PhD, MBA, brings joy and inspiration to acting on the environment. You’ll learn to lead without relying on authority.

    We bring you leaders from many areas — business, politics, sports, arts, education, and more — to share their expertise for you to learn from. We then ask them to share and act on their environmental values. That’s leadership without authority — so they act for their reasons, not out of guilt, blame, doom, gloom, or someone telling them what to do.

    Guests include:

    • Dan Pink, 40+ million TED Talk views
    • Marshall Goldsmith, #1-ranked leadership guru and author
    • Frances Hesselbein, Presidential Medal of Freedom honoree, former CEO of the Girl Scouts
    • Elizabeth Kolbert, Pulitzer Prize-winning author
    • David Allen, author of Getting Things Done
    • Ken Blanchard, author of The One Minute Manager
    • Vincent Stanley, Director of Patagonia
    • Dorie Clark, bestselling author
    • Bryan Braman, Super Bowl champion, Philadelphia Eagle
    • John Lee Dumas, top entrepreneurial podcaster
    • Alisa Cohn, top 100 speaker and coach
    • David Biello, Science curator for TED

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    320: Confronting doof Apr 04, 2020
    Show notes

    I got a taste of what I believe leads people to tell me they can't avoid packaging or buying fresh, local produce.

    Living in a semi-rural area led me to shop in a large supermarket for the first time in a year or two. They carried only doof and stuff shipped from across the country and world.

    I share the story and the uplifting results.

    Here are the notes I read from:

    • When I talk about taking over a year to fill a load of trash, people often say "You can but I can't."
    • I'm staying outside the city and shopped with my stepfather in a supermarket for the first time in at least a year
    • Onions
    • Everything packaged, almost nothing loose
    • Produce out of season, can't tell from where
    • Pears from Argentina
    • Bulk food section
    • All doof
    • Realized why people say they can't do it
    • But I don't accept
    • Plan to talk to manager about bulk foods
    • Researched farmers market
    • June start
    • Emailed people, they responded
    • Mom and stepfather knew one
    • Visited
    • Learned about Hub
    • Ordered Hub yesterday
    • Living by environmental values always leads to joy, community, connection
    • If you just accept what they offer, you're bull with ring in nose
    • Result is obesity, dependence,

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    319: Avoid doof Apr 03, 2020
    Show notes

    Food is fundamental to our environmental problems.

    Most of what American restaurants and supermarkets sell looks like food but isn't by my definition. It makes us obese, diseased, fatigued, poor, dependent, and such, whereas food, like fruits and vegetables, bring us together. Many of us are addicted to salt, sugar, fat, and convenience.

    Yet people addicted to salt, sugar, fat, and convenience can point to addicts to other things, like alcohol or cocaine, and say, "they don't need their thing but we need to eat." But no one confuses Doritos with broccoli. But the terms "junk food," "fast food," and even "frankenfood" have the term food in them, leading people to confuse them with food.

    I introduced the term doof---food backward---to distinguish between doof and food. Doof is all the stuff sold to go in your mouth refined from food, usually designed and engineered to cause you to crave more of it, usually through salt, sugar, fat, convenience, or other engineering.

    Here are my notes I read from:

    • What motivated the problem: reading about food, nutrition, health, and the environment
    • My favorite food writers, and podcast guests, Drs. Joel Fuhrman and Michael Greger
    • Their books Eat to Live, Fast Food Genocide, How Not To Die, and How Not To Diet
    • Their videos
    • The problem: the term "food" in junk food, fast food. Other addictions, like tobacco or alcohol, people say you don't need them, but they need food.
    • Beer versus water versus Doritos versus broccoli
    • Solution: New term
    • One that isn't sticking as well: craving-oriented mouth filler
    • One that people like: doof
    • Sounds like doofus. Helps you not confuse doof with food, like you don't confuse poppy seeds with heroin.
    • Next episode I'll share my story of shopping in a supermarket for the first time in years, nearly all doof.
    • Michael Pollan's "Eat food, mostly plants, not too much." Doof clarifies.
    • Won't confuse McDonald's, Gatorade, Starbucks with food since they don't serve it.
    • Enjoy food. Avoid doof.
    • Spread the word!


    • Dr Joel Fuhrman's
    • Episode on this podcast
    • Books Eat to Live, Fast Food Genocide, and the new Eat For Life
    • His bio and TEDx talk
    • His videos
    • Michael Greger's
    • Episode on this podcast
    • Books How Not To Die and How Not To Diet
    • His About page
    • His videos and Nutritionfacts.org

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    318: Why pandemics will keep increasing and how we can reverse the trend Apr 03, 2020
    Show notes

    I don't normally post other people's material, but 1) I found this video the most valuable I've seen on pandemics and 2) a previous guest, Dr. Michael Greger, created it.

    It's an hour, so I summarize its highlights in this episode, but watch the whole video for the comprehensive view with full data and references. My summary covers

    • What current media coverage includes---the urgent, important
    • What it misses---the non-urgent, important
    • Long-term pandemics trends
    • Recent pandemics trends and why we are causing them to increase
    • How we can decrease them


    The video:

    • Dr. Michael Greger's Pandemics: History and Prevention


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    317: My United Nations and UNICEF talk on leadership and the pandemic Apr 01, 2020
    Show notes

    Attendees said my talks brought tears to their eyes.

    Technically I spoke at the UN last week and UNICEF this week, but virtually not physically there, and to Toastmaster groups organized by UN and UNICEF workers.

    Both talks were similar. I recorded the UNICEF talk. I spoke on

    • A past New York City crisis---the 2003 blackout
    • Lessons I learned from it
    • How we risk not learning from the COVID-19 crisis
    • How we can learn from it
    • What I propose we learn from it

    Talks were limited to 5--7 minutes, so I could go to that depth.

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    316: Joel Fuhrman, part 2: Eat for Life Mar 30, 2020
    Show notes

    Joel talked so passionately about everything I look to bring out in other guests, I hardly spoke about his commitment with bringing bags. No problem, I loved hearing his views, history, and approach. I went with it.

    He also approaches the environment from food, though from a medical background. I just kept learning from him. Sadly, we as a culture keep moving toward disease and pollution, however much we want to move toward health and cleanliness.

    You and I can lead. This is our chance. Joel has been for decades. He's gotten results with the public through his books and his clients personally. You and I can build on what he started.

    I can't say much more than Joel did, connecting food and the environment and the benefit to us. Who knows, maybe our conversation will result in a PBS show.

    On a personal note, I'm glad to have heard his message of joy. Before these conversations I associated him mostly with medicine and nutrition. He covers those things, but with no lack of joy.

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    315: Diversity: Where are female deliverypeople? Or research on them? Mar 27, 2020
    Show notes

    An article I read about research into diversity asked about levels where different groups felt occupations became "sufficiently diverse." It looked at positions at tech companies, for example.

    I support diversity. I came across the article from the newsletter from Heterodox Academy, started by previous guest Jonathan Haidt, which promotes diversity, particularly of viewpoints. I would promote diversity in many places, yet there are many places I don't see diversity promoted or researched.

    Living in Manhattan, I see many doormen, building superintendents, building porters, takeout food deliverymen, construction workers, and so on. I know there are many people who work mines, deep sea fishing, and so on. I understand mostly men work these fields. I never see whites or women delivering food in New York by bicycle. Have you?

    Maybe I'm ignorant, but where is the push and research for diversity in these fields? I'm not asking rhetorically or to poke holes. I expect diversity in those fields would promote a healthier society for many reasons, including

    • Physically dangerous fields dominated by men, when women entered them, became safer
    • The more opportunities for whites in fields like delivering food, the more they'll be pulled from other roles and the more the roles where they're underrepresented will change to appeal to executives
    • The more people promote equality in dangerous or low-paying fields, the more credibility they'll gain, so they don't just look like they're trying to help themselves only
    • They may receive support from groups from whom they don't, like manual laborers who likely feel slighted
    • People and society will rethink relationships between different workers and classes

    Martin Luther King, jr sought equality between all, not just to help some. Nelson Mandela learned Afrikaans to understand his captors. How much do people today seek equality across the board versus helping some groups but not others?

    Here's the first article I read that Heterodox Academy's newsletter linked to and got me thinking

    • Diversity: Measuring How and Why Groups See It Differently

    The primary research that article referred to

    • Drawing the Diversity Line: Numerical Thresholds of Diversity Vary by Group Status, by Felix Danbold and Miguel M. Unzueta

    Another article on research by one of them

    • Here’s What Happens When You Tell White People America Is Getting Less White

    Research by one of the researchers that starts looking into these questions

    • Why Aren’t There More Women Firefighters?

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    314: Brent Suter part 2: A Major League pitcher and his farmers markets Mar 25, 2020
    Show notes

    If you love hearing people at the peak of the human condition behind the scenes, you'll love this episode with Major League Baseball pitcher Brent Suter. I think you'll also hear the subtext of food connecting his family already and his teammates soon.

    Sports and food

    I love sports, competition, and athletics. I love food, meaning fresh vegetables and fruit. This conversation with Brent, I felt like a kid in a candy store.

    This is one of the shortest times between episodes. As I mentioned at the end of last episode, Brent decided to commit to shopping at a farmers market after we stopped recording. He knew of places near him that he had meant to visit. He did the next day, then again the next weekend, and made some vegetable stews of his own, which he loved---the result, the process, the learning, and more.

    The mental game of professional sports

    Prepare yourself for the future of athletics---eating delicious and healthy for himself as an individual, an athlete, a husband, and a human.

    He also indulged me in sharing about the mental side of professional sports, what facing a batter feels like, how he trains, how he handles success and failure.

    I hope you enjoyed our conversation even half as much as I did.

    Covid-19 note: Is it safe to eat produce from farmers markets? Yes and please do.

    Previous guest Marion Nestle is one of the world's top food experts and these posts of hers compile useful information:

    • Is it safe to eat produce from farmers markets? Yes and please do.
    • Is it safe to eat fresh produce? Yes (with caveats)

    Enjoy farmers markets, enjoy vegetables, and enjoy banding together as a national and eventually global team

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    313: Jeff Kirschner, part 2: Still Working On It, Still Learning Mar 23, 2020
    Show notes

    I'm releasing Jeff's part 2 at the same time as 1.5 since they're both short episodes and still haven't led to achieving his goal. You'll hear we joke about it but, if I'm open, I'm frustrated at what I feel as my failure.

    I intend in these interactions, beyond helping guests share and act on an environmental value, to deepen their appreciation of that value so they feel they acted meaningfully and want to share something joyful. I believe everyone cares about something environmental enough to unearth that meaning.

    Jeff seemed to appreciate the project as something to manage, but I failed at unearthing and deepening the environmental aspect of it. I'm not saying that's bad, but incomplete. For someone who has made such a successful app, business, and community, I would have thought I'd unearth and activate plenty in terms of results and feeling of meaning and purpose. I don't think I did.

    If you hear it differently, let me know. I view my conversations with Jeff as lessons to learn from, but I'm not sure what to learn.

    • Learn about Litterati
    • Download from Android or Apple


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    312: Jeff Kirschner, part 1.5: Leaders Fail, but Bounce Back Too Mar 23, 2020
    Show notes

    Jeff felt his challenge wasn't big but openly shared that, in his terms, he failed at it.

    We all fail. I haven't studied it scientifically, but I believe that the more successful the leader, the more openly they share their failures. Jeff shares his and I learned from his openness and comfort with vulnerability.

    If you'd like to learn to face failure better, I predict you can learn from Jeff.

    It's short so I'm calling it episode 1.5 and will post episode 2 at the same time.

    • Learn about Litterati
    • Download from Android or Apple

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    311: Jeff Kirschner, part 1: Building Community Around Cleaning Litter Mar 23, 2020
    Show notes

    Since I don't use many apps and pick up litter already, I felt modest expectations of Jeff's Litterati, but I love it. It delivers the main things I look for: fun, community, connection, effectiveness, and free---the opposite of what many people connect with litter.

    As I'm writing, the app has recorded over 5 million pieces of litter picked up by over 150,000 people in over 165 countries. I think we can safely say the app led to a huge majority of those people connecting and picking up those pieces of litter. I hope those of you who haven't picked up litter are feeling the tug to try it out.

    My experience is that the more you pick up, the more acting on litter goes to the clean part of your brain, not the dirty part, if you know what I mean. I don't feel like I'm touching dirt, I feel like I'm cleaning my world. See where waste ends up motivates me to buy less stuff with packaging and other sources of litter, which lowers demands and can change systems.

    Jeff started all that. This episode covers Jeff's start and leads to his first environmental challenge.

    Those considering acting entrepreneurially to solve environmental (or any other) problems can learn a lot from Jeff's experience and success.

    • Learn about Litterati
    • Download from Android or Apple

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