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Did you know that if you sort through all of the possible outcomes of any given logic game, it’s likely that you’ll be lookin’ at less than 18 possible outcomes. Not that many, right? And when you know all of the outcomes of a game, chances are you can slay the questions. In this episode, the guys get gnarly with Logic Game 4 from the June 2007 LSAT. They make worlds, they split worlds, and then they split the splits. It gets wild. They also share an email from a law school who wants you to apply to the school so they can give you admissions advice (ummm…insert crying while laughing emoji, pls). Lastly, you’ll hear about the latest from the LSAT Demon, AND you can get a first look at the new Thinking LSAT website. Happy (Logic) gaming!
As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.
Instagram (upcoming events)
Personal Statement Review Package
6/3 – The June LSAT
6/4 – Registration cutoff for the July LSAT (SIGN UP! This puppy is a freebie, and you can cancel your score without penalty AFTER you see how you did…)
6/27 – June scores are released
7/15 – July LSAT
7:17 – Email 1—Alana received a rather amusing and ingenious email from Wash U. Turns out they are writing folks and offering FREE* law-school-admissions advice. Of course, they mention, it sure would be easier to give you said advice if you actually applied to Wash U. so they can review your application documents during the consultation.
The guys half love this slick move by Wash U, but they’re also hearing Admiral Ackbar issuing a warning from the cosmos. On one hand, this move basically starts a negotiation with Wash U. You apply to their school. You get a one on one with their staff so you can feel each other out. Pretty cool so far… But their free advice will probably leave you with some warm and fuzzies about Wash U., increasing your chances of actually attending the school if you get in. On the other hand, whether or not you go to Wash U., you are getting advice from admissions officers who will probably share a valuable perspective on your admissions docs.
We’d love to hear about this experience if any listeners dare to give it a try…
Wood. Tin. Glass. Plastic. Service centers…Strategy…We know. You might be thinking, like, “What is this? Some kind of ‘in-the-city’ version of Settlers of Catan?” The answer is ‘no,’ dear listeners. No it is not. It’s merely the fourth and most challenging logic game in section one of the 2007 LSAT. And the guys dive in with great relish. They get to work dismantling the game for you. Along the way they talk about worlds and how they can help you hit logic-game homeruns. But they also offer tips on how to approach games in a variety of ways. They point out that if you hone these skills, they can make you a game destroyer. You know, one of those “largest army” or “longest road” types. Break out yer pencils and scratch pads and follow along as the guys shred this game in real time.
Studying for the LSAT can be hard work. And when you feel like your practice test results are all over the place, even after weeks or months of work, it doesn’t make it any easier. Nathan and Ben get it, and today they dive into the question of interpreting—or not interpreting—your LSAT scores. Plus, you’ll hear more about financial aid incentives from our old friends at Concordia University School of Law in Boise, ID. And the guys set up Logic Game no. 3 from the June 2007 LSAT.
As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.
Instagram (upcoming events)
6/3 – It’s the June 2019 LSAT
6/4 – The last day to register for the July 2019 LSAT
6/27 – June LSAT scores will be released via email
7/15 – It’s the July LSAT! Otherwise known as “the digital transformation.” Make sure you register for this test. It might be $100, which kinda sucks, but it’s basically a low-risk shot at the test. You can see what the digital LSAT is all about, and when your score comes back, you can take a look and decide whether or not to cancel. If you do cancel, it’ll still show up as a cancel on your score history. But you’ll be able to know exactly what score you’re cancelling, and how you faired on an official test day.
4:47 – LSAT FUNdamental: Understanding your LSAT Scores
You sit down, you ready your pencil, you dial up 35 minutes on your phone’s timer, and you get ready for your first ever crack at the LSAT: the cold diagnostic. Maybe you’re curious. Maybe you’re relaxed. Maybe you’re anxious about what the test has in store for you. No matter how you feel, this is the start of your LSAT journey. It could be weeks or months or even years of study, practice tests and official tests before you nail the 120-180 score that will propel you into your 1L semester. For many law-students-to-be, this is an arduous path full of elated highs and disappointing setbacks that can make you wonder: am I even making any f*cking progress on this thing? Nathan and Ben set out to set the record straight about the range of practice test scores you’ll experience during your LSAT study in today’s LSAT FUNdamental. Here are some key takeaways:
- Your 120-180 is an imprecise measure of your progress as you prepare for the LSAT.
- Making progress has LESS to do with your score, and more to do with WHICH questions you got wrong and WHY you got them wrong. If you feel like you’re beginning to understand the test at a deeper level, you’re on the right track.
- Don’t obsess over your score. It will get in the way to your overall progress.
- The LSAT scale is just sixty points: 120-180. If after a month you move from a 140 to a 144, that’s great. In fact, moving the needle one point per week is a massive improvement. And a sustained two points a week is more or less unheard of. Because the scale is small, each point is precious. And each point increase moves you past hundreds or thousands of other applicants.
- Remember that every time you take a test there is a possible bell curve for your outcomes. Toward the center is close to your current capabilities, and the upside represents a good mix of questions, a good day, and lucky guesses. The downside means you just had some bad luck. If you score a 160, you could also hit a 165 as well as a 154. So don’t misinterpret the downside or the upside variance—pay more attention to your moving average — the average of your last five test scores.
- Different environmental issues can affect your test, like folks tapping pencils in the room, or having a tough first section that colors how you perform on the rest of the test. Learn to deal with these distractions, and you’ll have more consistent performance.
33:29 – Pearls vs. Turds
It’s your weekly Pearls vs. Turds! Or, as Ben might re-name it: it’s Turd time! He might be right, as the current scoreboard after 22 weeks is: 1 pearl, 13 turds, and 8 ties.
Today, Ashley writes in with a tip that helps her when she’s feeling discouraged after (drum rollllll): a shitty practice test score. How apropos to today’s episode! To help her from feeling discouraged, Ashley has started to think of the LSAT as kind of a new language, with nuances and new meanings, and funky conjugations. Some days she nails it. And some days she gets caught up in irregular verbs and the like.
While the guys are glad this helps Ashley feel better about that performance bell curve, they point out that it’s really not a new language. It’s the English language used in the proper way. The test makes perfect sense as it is. But if this way of thinking about it helps you keep your head down, show up, and continue your practice, then that’s awesome. This one’s a tie.
39:45 – Concordia University Law School Incentive
Back in episode 141, listener Thomas wrote in to let the guys know about a wild incentive at Concordia Law School. Anyone who gets above a 160 on the LSAT can attend for free. Badass, right? Well Amanda writes in for this episode to shed some more light on the story. Apparently they offer additional incentives leading up to the 160 score, and moreover, everyone in their small class receives some sort of financial aid. Amanda checked out their ABA 509 report and discovered that no one is receiving that full scholarship, though, and she’s wondering what gives. The guys speculate as to why this might be the case, and do a lil’ dive into Concordia’s ABA 509 report.
48:18 – Logic Game #3, June 2007 LSAT
The guys complete the setup for the third Logic Game of the June 2007 LSAT. They walk through some possible ways to approach the game, and give y’all listeners a bit of homework. Head over to the June 2007 LSAT. Dial up LG#3 in section 1. Listen to Ben and Nathan hook up the setup for the game, and then attempt the questions on your own! Write in to firstname.lastname@example.org to let us know how it went. Ask questions. Tell us where you got hung up. Tell us what setup worked for you! The guys will discuss in a couple weeks.
5:48 – Bad Reviews
At long last, the guys pry open the lid of iTunes, hack through the stacks of glowing 5-star reviews, and check out the dank and sad corner of 1-star, 2-star, and 3-star Thinking LSAT reviews. Nathan and Ben read some sour takes of folks with sour grapes about the show. Are the guys just blatant opportunists, preying on 1L’s-to-be? Do they neglect to actually cover the hard-hitting topics that matter to LSAT takers, like the actual fucking questions on the actual fucking test? Tune in to hear the gripes of your fellow listeners and hear what the guys have to say for themselves.
21:58 – The Writing Sample
The writing sample, like the rest of the LSAT, is going digital. And the guys have been getting a bunch of questions about it. Lots of folks are wondering: if they’ve taken an LSAT before and done a pencil-and-paper writing sample, do they need to do the digital one? The answer is no. But the guys talk about why you might want to do one anyway.
27:51 – Prepping for 1L
Adam writes in and asks about getting ready for 1L this fall. He’s taken the LSAT. He’s been admitted to law school. Now he’s ready to crush classes about contracts and torts and everything else. But he wants to know about life after the LSAT. Should he just circle back and start doing 35-minute sections to keep his mind sharp for law school? Nathan and Ben give that plan a big thumbs down. It’s time to move on, Adam, and get ready for that reeaalll law shit. Here are some resources the guys recommend to set you up for this fall.
Look into Bar prep materials, like Adaptibar
Books by Jeffrey Toobin, like The Nine
Make sure you seek out old tests from the classes you’re taking
DO THE READING for your classes
40:24 – 2007 LSAT, Logic Game #2
The guys dive in to LG #2 from the 2007 LSAT. They walk you through creating worlds, and show you how you can begin to solve for the game often from the first sentence. Ben and Nathan also talk about common first questions for ordering games, and discuss why, if you get the setup correct, you can smash through the questions in order rather than jumping around.
1:08:50 – Pearls vs. Turds…?
Just a week ago, Ben came across the Instagram account LSAT Learning Objectives and saw a post titled “Fact of the Day.” And this, dear listeners, is how the guys got their fodder for today’s Pearls vs. Turds. LSAT Learning Objectives argues that people spend too much time trying to understand the test, and not enough time on freakin’ practice. They say that you basically have to break your brain, unlearn the shit you’ve spent a lifetime learning, and rewire yourself to think—not like most people—but like the LSAT. The guys give this the ol’ “not so fast” treatment and bust it up before tossing it in the turd bin. Tune in to hear why this piece of advice gets a thumbs down from Nathan and Ben.
Put on your slippers and pull up your favorite comfortable chair, dear listeners, because you’re in for a treat. Ben and Nathan take advantage of the calm before the summer LSATs to do story-time theater. They read, or rather laugh their way through their own personal statements from when they applied to law school. Plus you’ll hear some advice about Ben’s “Murph” and how it could apply to your LSAT study.
Mark it, friends. June 4, 2019 is the last day to register for the July LSAT. And Nathan and Ben take some time to put folks’ fears at bay. The guys talk about how this LSAT will be the same, if not better than any LSAT you’ve ever attempted. No precious seconds bubbling in an answer. Just tap a piece of glass. No accidentally erasing a correct answer and forgetting where the fuck you are. Just tap to change your answer. It’s gonna be sweet. And the best part? You can still bring a pencil and scrap paper to the test to do any writing that you like. The digital LSAT has tons of upside. The guys tell you all of the reasons why you should absolutely register for and take the July test.
5:24 – LSAT Demon Updates
Ben and co. have been hard at work, finalizing some new features for the Demon. Most notable amongst them is the full-test feature. Soon you’ll be able to smash out a complete timed test right in the Demon. The guys are hoping to roll this out to the preview site this week, so stay tuned! Meanwhile, Nathan’s been loading the Demon with a ton of new written explanations for questions throughout. If you’re working on a passage or a question you just don’t understand or can’t seem to get right, hit the “help” button in the platform to request an explanation from Nathan or Ben.
8:08 – The Murph
While y’all are hard at work cramming for the LSAT, Ben’s preparing for his own personal Everest. It’s “the Murph.” An insane cross fit workout that Ben’s going to attempt in May. Ben polled folks for advice on how to prepare and get through the famous workout, and listener Frankie wrote in with some pro advice. Frankie recommends that throughout the workout, if you feel the need to stop, stop. Then count to three—one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, etc.—and get back into the workout. Frankie recommends not to stop for longer than that. Of course, Nathan pipes in with thoughts on how this gem advice can be applied to LSAT study.
11:00 – Pearls vs. Turds
In today’s Pearls vs. Turds, a listener offers this advice for test takers with accommodations. He says that even if you have accommodated testing (like time and a half) you should still practice at a 35-minute pace. He found that if he practiced at 70 minutes, he kind of lost focus throughout the section and became comfortable with that amount of time. As a result he had pacing and accuracy issues even with extended time. However, when he bumped his practice back to 35-minute sections, the renewed sense of urgency throughout helped him stay sharp and engaged. After practicing this way, he found that he fared better on practice tests with accommodated timing. So is this something you should try at home if you get accommodations? Ben says this can bake in bad habits, and Nathan agrees—you should practice how you’re gonna play. The guys almost throw this in the Turd pile, but deem it a Tie considering this seemed to work for this listener.
21:16 – The Guys’ Personal Statements
The stars of the show today aren’t visiting guests or listener questions. Nope. It’s a pair of personal statements. And not any ol’ personal statements. These are Ben’s and Nathan’s personal statements from their law school applications. Tune in to hear the guys laugh uncontrollably at their own writing. You’ll learn about Ben’s stellar leadership abilities, and Nathan’s business savvy. Their statements just prove that everyone has room to grow and that soliciting feedback—even if it’s tough—is better than writing in a vacuum.
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Disclaimer: Hey, guys. Ben’s microphone wasn’t turned on throughout this episode, so his side of the conversation leaves a bit to be desired from a sound-quality standpoint. Sorry about that. […]
00:00 – Introduction—Nathan is BACK stateside. But his traveling days are long from over. He’s been bouncing around the west coast since his return and accruing copious frequent-flyer benefits. So […]
00:00:00 – Introduction—The results are in from the June 2017 LSAT, and Nate and Ben discuss how their students fared. 00:02:07 – Holy shit. The guys have made it to […]
00:03:38 – The performance feedback came back for the digital LSAT pilot test—and everyone’s pretty disappointed. 00:06:40 – Emily wants to know if a LSAT prep course will improve her […]
With the June LSAT behind us, we discuss early reports from the test and dig into listener emails. Sorry for Nathan’s bad audio—he’s 1) on the road and 2) bad at […]
00:02:05 – The biggest message is: You’ve either put in the work or not. “The hay is in the barn.” 00:03:36 – Don’t get caught up in “small sample” glitches—it’s […]
Ann Levine joins the top of the show to discuss the big news of the day, including: 00:01:20 – LSAC eliminates the “3 times in 2 years” rule 00:03:20 – What’s […]
00:00:24 – We kick off the show with a comedy update about a listener who showed up for the digital LSAT pilot at the wrong time. 00:01:20 – We speculate on […]
Note! Today’s show notes are a direct transcription of the entire one hour, 36 minute show, with timestamps every 30 seconds. If you read them, you will learn that Nathan […]
Today’s show clocks in over two hours. A Thinking LSAT record? (We don’t know, because we’re too lazy to look through all the past episodes.) In the show open, Nathan talks […]
Alert! Today’s show notes were written by Nathan, so don’t be surprised if you find them saltier and less amusing than Andi’s usual sweetness and light. Today’s pre-show ramblings include Nathan […]
Looking for an LSAT prep course? Consider Ben’s 100-Hour Online LSAT Course or Nathan’s Fox LSAT On Demand class. Also, try Fox LSAT’s free trial course to see if Nathan’s […]
Ben recommends a book that he’s been enjoying: What Doesn’t Kill Us: How Freezing Water, Extreme Altitude and Environmental Conditioning Will Renew Our Lost Evolutionary Strength. Ben’s started taking cold […]
Vacillating in Vancouver has a dream to become a criminal defense attorney; he also has a dream of not regretting the pursuit of said dream. With an aptitude for reading, […]
Unfortunately, Ben just cannot deal! Ads with relentlessly poppy, upbeat, hand-clapping music are making him want to run for the hills. And if the tune features xylophones? Forget about it. […]
Law School Expert Ann Levine joins Episode 87 to discuss Harvard Law School’s recent bombshell—they are now giving students the option of submitting their GRE score instead of their LSAT […]
Nathan introduces guest Chantal Renta, a Chinese-speaking, freelance-accounting, tax-law-loving 3L at Southwestern Law School. The show begins with Chantal, a self-proclaimed “tax queen,” warning students about the downside of federal […]
An update from musician-turned-future-lawyer Peter notifies the guys that, despite their best efforts to dissuade him, he did indeed apply to Temple Law School with his 164 LSAT score. The […]
Laughter being the best medicine, Ben credits Melissa McCarthy’s Sean Spicer skit with adding three years to his life. He also enjoys the absurdity of a clip demanding unquestioning submission […]
Nathan has two recommendations this week: Cadillac Desert, a thorough history of the American West’s pursuit of fresh water by Marc Reisner, and Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes, a cooperative […]
Ben recommends an article from The Atlantic, “The For-Profit Law School That Crumbled,” which discusses the downfall of the Charlotte School of Law due to its students low LSAT scores, […]
Remember to subscribe to the Thinking LSAT Podcast to be automatically notified each time a new episode goes online! “Timmy,” a 44-year-old who is established in a successful non-law career, […]
The (self-proclaimed) Greatest Podcast Hosts That God Ever Created discuss Donald Trump’s recent press conference. Ben wonders about people’s news and filter bubbles, while Nathan transforms current events into sufficient […]
Nathan gives five (death)stars to “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” while Ben shares a far more lukewarm review of his family’s new dog, a “Mountain Swissy” kind. (0:30) In […]
The guys open Episode 78 by discussing the need to submit a diversity statement with a law school application. Both agree it can be a valuable addition but caution applicants […]
Nathan shares an email he received from David Faigman, Acting Chancellor and Dean of the University of California Hastings College of the Law. The email, sent to students and alumni […]
Episode 76 is a nod to our Northern neighbors as Nathan records from Toronto, Ontario and we’re joined by Graeme Blake from Montreal, founder of LSAT Hacks. So kick off […]
Phillipe (not his real name and probably not the horse from Beauty and the Beast…probably) is wondering whether he should quit his full time job so he can focus on […]
Feeling down about the election/the country/the very fabric of your existence?? Fear not, dear listeners, Nathan knows what will turn that frown upside-down…more LSAT prep! In the wake of Trumpocalypse, […]
Nathan introduces a new Thinking LSAT feature: Really Dumb Move of the (September 2016) LSAT. A tutoring student of his receives the honors this time for discussing the test’s difficulty […]
In Episode 66, Nathan and Ben discussed an email from Mike, a dedicated student who suffered from panic-induced insomnia the night before his June LSAT. Needless to say, that test […]
A quick update on last episode’s story of the student who went one second over time on his test day Writing Sample. The LSAC’s characteristically cagey response to him leaves […]
Thinking LSAT gets political as we discuss the Trump-Clinton debate, and Nathan shares his surprising opinion on the outcome. Don’t worry if you’re not offended yet, we’ll discuss religion at […]
Ben reads and recommends Alexander Hamilton. The biography by Ron Chernow inspired the recent musical phenomenon and Ben thinks it could also be an inspiration for aspiring lawyers. (5:30) Dreaming of […]
The recent release of The 10 Actual, Official LSAT Prep Tests 42-51 by the LSAC has Nathan and Ben all in a tizzy. While Nathan grumbles about the price, title, […]
Ben jumps right into Episode 68 by introducing listeners to LSAT India and their catchy tagline, “All you need is reason.” Nathan wants to check out this version of the […]
Josh planned to retake the LSAT but then received a recommendation from his pre-law advisor not to do so; now Josh is confused about what he should do. We give […]
We open Episode 66 with some book recommendations; Ben is enjoying Chaos Monkeys by Antonio García Martínez and Nathan just finished Ready Player One by Ernest Cline. Reading these could […]
…JK. Episode 65 is no less safe for work than any other episode of Thinking LSAT. We do appreciate hearing about all of you that seem to be listening to […]
Tis the time for our noble listeners to decide whether or not they are satisfied with their June LSAT scores. Zach wonders if it is worth risking a lower retake […]
Ben recommends Grit by Angela Duckworth, a book that could help with your LSAT prep and studying mindset. In that same vein, he mentions episode 202 of the podcast “The […]
Did you take the June LSAT? Are you freaking out about your performance?? If you answered yes, we encourage you to slow down, take a deep breath, and refrain from […]
Episode 61 features an interview with Seth Harding, a 15 year old college senior who is preparing to take the LSAT. Seth is planning to take the test on June […]
After months of anticipation and teasers from Nathan, The Fox LSAT Logic Games Playbook is now available! Check it out here and start crushing all those games. (3:10) Ed, a far-flung listener […]
In Episode 59, Nathan interviews Alison Monahan: Columbia Law School graduate, co-creator of The Law School Toolbox and Bar Exam Toolbox programs and podcast, and creator of The Girl’s Guide to […]
Two old dudes leave the jogging to the kids while they rhapsodize over the benefits of swimming slow laps—it’s so easy on the joints! Nathan really hammers the point home […]
After a bad test day and a “questionable” prep guide got him a 147 on the LSAT, Torvald* uses the Thinking LSAT podcast to jump his retake score to a […]
Nathan recommends adding something unusual to your morning coffee. Try it and look like a badass at your next brunch. (2:30) David, a listener who graduated in 2006 with a […]
We interview Ann Levine, law school admissions expert, author and yoga teacher. Ann counsels us on the importance of meditation in creating a clear mind before studying. She also discusses […]
Fire alarms, marching bands and mice … oh my! Listeners Ayung and Lauren share their LSAT test day horror stories. We discuss what to do when you encounter the unexpected […]
Nathan finally saw Star Wars: The Force Awakens, and we find the flaws in the film like it’s Question #16 from Section 2 of the June 2007 LSAT. (Spoiler Alert […]
Arnold took the LSAT in October and December 2015, and ended up raising his score to 174. We talk about retaking the LSAT, the third Logic Game on the December […]
Curtis is 33 years old, has an associate’s degree and wants to be an attorney. He is enrolled in a bachelor’s program and received a 146 on the June LSAT. […]
Emma just took the December LSAT. She's trying to decide if she should apply to law schools this year or wait until next year. Most of the schools she's interested in attending do not have deadlines until March; but will her chances of admissions increase if she applies early?We discuss the number of people taking the LSAT (based on numbers from the LSAC), and the implications of those statistics.In celebration of our 50th episode, we share some stats and reflections from the last 50 episodes of the Thinking LSAT podcast.We also tackle Logical Reasoning question 13 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.Got questions you want us to answer in a future podcast? Send us an email!Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!Take a listen and let us know what you think. And tell us if you'd like to hear from different attorneys on the podcast!
One listener has a full-time job, a diagnostic score of 165 and wants to take the June LSAT. She plans to study now, take a break during her busy season at work, and then re-start studying in the spring. Is this a workable study strategy?Should this listener retake the LSAT after getting a score of 171 on the October test?A listener from Brazil is studying for the LSAT and has taken five practice tests with scores ranging from 153 to 166. He asks the following questions: Do I have a chance at a scholarship (even with a lower GPA) at a good school? Is a 175 score feasible? Does being an international student make a difference for law school admission?We also tackle Logical Reasoning question 12 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.Got questions you want us to answer in a future podcast? Send us an email!Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!Take a listen and let us know what you think.
A student asks if she should take the December LSAT if she's currently scoring in the 130s on practice tests. Her GPA is a 3.3 and she has three "F" grades on her transcript. In addition, she is half-way through the Princeton Review LSAT course and her scores are not improving. Should she take the December LSAT, or wait until the February test?We tackle Logical Reasoning question 11 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.Finally we discuss Game 3 on the October 2015 (Test 76) LSAT.Got questions you want us to answer in a future podcast? Send us an email!Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!Take a listen and let us know what you think.
We discuss the current state of LSAT accommodations since the topic was discussed in episode 43.We tackle Logical Reasoning question 10 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.Camilla asks what ranges we recommend for reach, target and safety when using the LSAC calculator and the percentage it gives.Two listeners ask if they should spend time reviewing questions/answers they got correct, or just those that were incorrect.Chris is heading into the final stretch before the December LSAT. He asks if we've seen patterns among students who have experienced test-day score drops compared to their practice test scores. Similarly, Courtney asks if we have suggestions for how to improve her test-day score to match her practice scores.Chris asks if he should drill specific question types, or continue taking mixed sections to help strengthen the question gaps and understanding. In addition, he asks for suggestions to go from the low 160s to high 160s. Ben suggests using the Strategy Prep question tracker to help with this.Finally, Courtney is seeking additional test materials to complete her LSAT preparations.If you're interested in reviewing a draft of Nathan's Logic Games Playbook, send him an email and he'll be in touch!Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!Take a listen and let us know what you think.
The October LSAT scores are out. Should you retake the LSAT? And what's the first thing you should do when you get your actual results back?Paul asks if it's possible to go from a LSAT score of 146 to 170.Vincent shares his experience after taking our advice to stop reading the Logical Reasoning question stem first. Did his practice scores improve?Dylan wants help answering abstract questions (e.g. flaw, method of reasoning), and shares his strategy for taking simulated practice tests at the actual LSAT start-time of 8:30 a.m.A listener asks what suggestions we have for continuing to study when waiting for test results. She also asks about a strategy for disclosing speeding tickets on the law school application, and whether those traffic violations will hurt her chances of admission.Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Ann Levine, Law School Expert, talks about whether law school early decision programs are worth exploring. She also addresses whether law schools can see if you've applied to multiple schools via early decision.Joe shares an October LSAT test-day horror story that involved the use of an analog watch during the test. He asks advice on how to address the situation with LSAC.Listener Kayle talks about an offer she received from a law school in Alabama that included a waiver of her application fee and a $30 iTunes gift card in exchange for her application to the school. She asks if other law schools are engaging in these offers.After scoring in the mid-teens on Logic Games, Steve asks for help and suggestions for additional Logic Games study materials.One listener doesn't feel confident about his most recent score with respect to Reading Comprehension. He already took the LSAT once and scored a 162. He asks if he should take the December LSAT, and what are the implications of taking the LSAT for a third time. He also asks about the option of cancelling his score and if we have suggestions for additional comparative reading materials.Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!Take a listen and let us know what you think.
This student's practice LSAT score is stuck in the mid 140s, despite the fact she has been studying for quite some time using several different prep materials. She wants to reach the 150s. Should she take the October LSAT or wait until December? This student has been studying consistently for the LSAT and scoring in the mid 160s. But as the October test approaches, his score is slipping down to the 150s. What should he do? Jack asks how he can improve his speed completing Logic Games. Should students worry about the LSAT writing sample? (Listen to Episode 34 for more information on the writing sample.) Are law school early decision programs worth pursuing?Nathan will be living part time in Los Angeles, and is now accepting appointments for private LSAT tutoring in Southern California. You can book an appointment online for in-person or Skype tutoring sessions.We also tackle Logic Games question 1 (Section 1) from the June 2007 LSAT.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
Mika talks about applying for LSAT accommodations for persons with disabilities, and what the LSAC decided in her case. She discusses the process of submitting more than 100 pages of documentation, and her request to take four LSAT sections, additional time to answer the sections, the use of noise-cancelling headphones, and an isolated testing environment.We answer questions from Benny who is pursuing his MBA and wants to attend law school. He asks whether a graduate degree will help his chances of admission to a law school such as Georgetown. He also asks if law schools will consider his graduate GPA more or less than the undergraduate GPA.We clarify an answer Ann Levine recently gave about how the LSAC computes your GPA when you retake a college course and receive a higher grade. Ann refers to the LSAC's policies related to transcript summarization webpage for further clarification. We also tackle Logical Reasoning question 9 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT. Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
Student Loan Expert Heather Jarvis addresses the following topics:What are need-based versus merit-based scholarships? How does tuition discounting work? How should students ask for more scholarship money? Tips for borrowing and reducing living expenses in law school. Should you borrow money from an IRA investment account or take out student loans to pay for law school?We also answer the following questions from listeners:Melissa is a 34-years-old mother who is considering law school. She asks about a LSAT prep strategy and whether to take a practice LSAT as her first step. Eric asks about "must be true" questions and when to diagram Logical Reasoning questions.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
Ann Levine, Law School Expert, shares advice and answers questions about law school admission.What do law school admissions committees do with LSAT score bands? How does the Law School Admissions Council (LSAC) compute your GPA when you retake a college course and then receive a higher grade? How does LSAC handle transcripts when you're involved in a dual degree program? What are the first things you should do to prepare for law school? Brittany asks if you can submit a letter of recommendation from a high school teacher. When you're asked to supply bullet points for your own letter of recommendation, what information should you give your recommender? How do you decide on a personal statement topic when you have several life experiences to share? Kirk has a bachelor's of music degree in trombone performance. He asks how law school admissions committees will view his degree in music, and should he ask for letters of recommendation from his music professors? He also asks about study abroad programs in law school. Should you submit your law school application now or wait until after taking the October LSAT?Be sure to check out Ann's new Law School Expert scholarship program.After our conversation with Ann, we tackle Logical Reasoning questions 7 and 8 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.Don’t forget to try out the LSAT tracker. This lets you track your progress and discover what you need to work on.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
Andrew asks if he has enough time to study for the December 2015 LSAT or should he wait until the February 2016 test. He also asks if he will be at a disadvantage if he takes a later LSAT because more people will be sitting for the exam.Kayle is doing well on her practice LSAT tests (scores of 169 and 172). When studying, she asks if she should: a) concentrate primarily on the number of questions missed; b) consider the overall score; or c) ignore everything and focus on learning from her mistakes?Dennis is concerned about a college class that has negatively impacted his GPA. He is currently retaking the class. Should he apply to law school as soon as his LSAT score is available, or wait until the semester is finished so he can report the better grade and higher GPA?We also tackle Logical Reasoning questions 5 and 6 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.Don't forget to try out the LSAT tracker. This lets you track your progress and discover what you need to work on.Lastly, Heather Jarvis, student loan expert, will be a guest on an upcoming episode. If you have a question for Heather, email us by Sept. 1.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
Here's what we talk about in this week’s Thinking LSAT podcast:Andrew asks what we think his chances are of admission to the University of Iowa College of Law. He scored a 155 on the LSAT without any preparation (and is now scoring much higher), and is retaking the test in October. He will have a compelling personal statement, and has impressive extracurricular and leadership activities. He also has a potential letter of recommendation from an attorney. Carmen will apply to law school next fall. She graduated from California State University, Chico with a bachelor's degree in history and a 3.0 GPA. She also works as a paralegal. She asks if we have tips for studying the LSAT on her own while working full time. She also wonders if there are grants and scholarships available for her first-choice of Lewis & Clark Law School, given her GPA and potential LSAT score. In addition, will her experience as a paralegal help her gain admission? Danny disagrees with our approach of not reading the question stem first in the Logical Reasoning section. We talk about Danny's approach versus our recommendations. We also get an update from Andre who took our suggestion to slow down and analyze Reading Comprehension passages.Here's the link to the LSAT tracker we mention during the show. This lets you track your progress and discover what you need to work on.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we answer the following LSAT questions and whether to select a law school based on bar exam passage rates:Mike asks how to address “uncommon word usages" on the LSAT. For example, the word "obtain" appears frequently. What other words should LSAT test-takers look for? Matt is taking the October LSAT. He slowed down his approach to answering Logical Reasoning questions, which has significantly improved his accuracy. When should he increase his speed to answer more questions while still maintaining accuracy? Nathan's student was admitted to Golden Gate University School of Law (46% bar passage rate) and University of La Verne College of Law (67% bar passage rate). Should he select a law school based on bar exam passage rates or the cost of tuition? Bram just started studying for the LSAT. He asks about a strategy for answering different sections, recommendations for a LSAT class in Atlanta, and whether he should break Logic Games questions into "sub-games" or "worlds."Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we answer the following questions about retaking the LSAT:Dylan has a 3.5 GPA and scored a 163 on the LSAT, yet he got as high as 167 on practice tests. Should he apply to law school early through rolling admission, or retake the LSAT in hopes of a higher score? Lauren scored a 170 on the June LSAT. She is considering retaking the test in October because she scored as high as 174 on practice tests, but doesn't want to burn herself out. Should she retake the LSAT? Andre scored a 155 on his first attempt at the LSAT. After taking a prep course and doing numerous practice rounds, his practice scores ranged from 161-169. Yet when Andre retook the LSAT, he only got a 157. Why did his score decrease and what should he do before retaking the LSAT? Beth is taking the October LSAT. She's working full time and can't afford a prep class. After using the Princeton Review and Kaplan LSAT test prep books, Beth was so stressed about timing that she neglected to work on study techniques. As a result, her score went down. What LSAT study strategy do we recommend for Beth?Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we answer the following LSAT and law school questions from students across the country:Alex asks if he needs to score a 170 on the LSAT and whether it matters what law school he attends if he plans to practice law in the medical marijuana field. Jordan asks how to improve his mental stamina while taking full LSAT practice tests, and tips for answering Reading Comprehension main point questions. Michael wants help answering necessary assumption questions. Christopher asks why we suggest taking timed practice LSAT tests as early as possible. Courtney seeks some advice on obtaining letters of recommendation when you are not particularly close with college professors.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive a sample chapter of the Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we talk about the June 2015 LSAT and answer a listener's question about when and how he should study for the LSAT. Here's a look at the topics we cover:June 2015 LSAT anomolies and test center mistakes, including proctors forgetting to give 5-minute warnings and one that gave the warning too soon; a test that started one hour late because students were still registering; and a proctor that gave an extra two minutes to complete a Reading Comprehension section. The difficulty level of the June 2015 LSAT, especially with respect to the Logic Games sections. Should you cancel your LSAT score if you think you preformed poorly? Listener Kyle asks when he should start studying for the LSAT and what materials he should use.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive a sample chapter of the Thinking LSAT Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, which commemorates our one year anniversary of the Thinking LSAT Podcast, we share an update on the Thinking LSAT Logic Games Playbook. We also address the following issues from LSAT students across the country:Kayli (who is taking the June LSAT) had questions about applying to law school as a "splitter" (i.e. a person with a high LSAT score and low GPA, or vice versa). She asked, "If you're below the 25th percentile for the GPA or LSAT, do you have to be in the 75th percentile for the other component?" Do you have any recommendations for practicing the ungraded writing sample section of the LSAT? Be sure to listen for Ben's rubric to help you craft your essay. Joe has been taking multiple practice tests (and tracking his performance) as he gears up for the June LSAT. He asks for tips to work through the last-minute panic and test anxiety he's starting to feel before the June test.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive a sample chapter of the Thinking LSAT Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we discuss issues relating to the upcoming June 2015 LSAT and answer questions from listeners. We then work through question 4 in section 2 of the June 2007 LSAT, which is a flaw question about the Connorly Report on Ocksenfrey's pre-packaged meals.Here's a look at the topics we discuss:How to determine if you're ready for the June 2015 LSAT, and what you should do in the final weeks before the test. Is there a shortage of LSAT test centers around the country? Why are students being sent to test centers in other cities to take the exam? What are some tips for working through paradox questions? Megan graduated in 2012 with a bachelor's degree in media and visual arts, with a specialization in documentary production. She has spent the last few years working on a television show and now wants to attend law school and practice immigration law. Will her undergraduate emphasis and work experience hinder her chances of getting into law school? Similarly, Emily spent a few years singing opera in Europe and working on a Fulbright. Is her experience too varied, and is she too old for law school?Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Thinking LSAT Logic Games Playbook! We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out? Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we discuss the following questions and work through a Logical Reasoning question from the June 2007 LSAT:How can you use the article, More Sex Means More Money, to understand correlation-causation thinking questions? What are my chances of getting into law school if I have a low GPA from several years ago, 150-155 LSAT score, and valuable work experience?Take a listen and let us know what you think.Don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Thinking LSAT Logic Games Playbook! We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out? Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we work through Logical Reasoning questions from the June 2007 LSAT and we'll share an update on our upcoming Thinking LSAT Logic Games Playbook. We also answer the following questions from LSAT students across the country:Is graduating from college in three years going to hurt my chances of getting into law school? Will my choice of summer jobs help me get into law school? For example, will I be looked upon more favorably if I am a legal intern at a district attorney's office versus working as a barista? Do I need to abstain from drinking alcohol before taking the LSAT? Do you have any tips for lessening eye fatigue or "LSAT headaches" when taking practice LSAT tests?Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Thinking LSAT Logic Games Playbook! We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out? Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
LSAT teacher and author Graeme Blake joins us to answer a few questions from the Reddit LSAT forum and reflects on the current state of the LSAT and law school admissions. Here are the topics Graeme addresses:What is the success rate when people retake the LSAT? (read the question on Reddit) What are the basics of an LSAT prep plan? There are so many resources out there; what are the best materials to use? (read the question on Reddit) What is the difference between sufficient and necessary? How is it tested, and how do you make logic and precision habitual? (read the question on Reddit) Graeme's thoughts on some law schools not requiring the LSAT for admission (based on "Killing the LSAT is a Bad Deal for Students" by Elie Mystal in Above the Law)You can read more questions from Reddit on the LSAT forum and law school admission forum.Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book! We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out? Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
Ann Levine, law school admissions expert, answers your questions about how to decide which law school to attend. Some of the topics Ann addresses are:What factors should I assess when deciding on a law school? Is there a methodical way to go about it, like creating a spreadsheet to compare? How important are a school's clinical offerings, course variety, and student organizations? Are specialties important? What about specialty rankings? Does the law school's 509 report accurately portray student data? Does it include the percentage of transfer students, and can I use the 509 report to gauge student satisfaction? How do I make the most of my campus visit? What tell-tale signs should I look out for? I want to visit a school, but it will cost about $300 in airfare, hotels, rental car, etc. Will a law school cover some of these expenses? How do I negotiate offers from multiple law schools?Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book! We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out? Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this week’s podcast, we answer questions about the different types of LSAT prep programs, and which one is best for you. Here’s a look at our discussion:What's the best way to study using the LSAT test prep books I purchased for the June test? Should prospective law students take a LSAT prep program? What is the advantage of taking an in-person LSAT prep class? Are online LSAT prep classes helpful, and who are the best candidates for those programs? Should students hire a LSAT tutor?Take a listen and let us know what you think.And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book! We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out? Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
In this weekâ€™s podcast, we answerÂ three LSAT questions and help a prospective law student decide betweenÂ multiple admission and scholarship offers. Here’s a look at our discussion:
- Should IÂ be doing same-day blind review when taking LSAT practice tests? And should IÂ blind review Games and Reading Comprehension questions?
- How much do the LSAT tests vary through the years? Should students practice taking the LSAT with current tests or earlier ones?
- Should I study Logical Reasoning by question type?
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
And donâ€™t forget toÂ sign up for our email newsletterÂ to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book!Â Weâ€™ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out?Â Sign upÂ and weâ€™ll be in touch!
In this weekâ€™s podcast, we answer some greatÂ questions from listeners, including:
- The LSAT is coming up soon and I’ve had a last-minute drop in my practice scores. What should I do?
- I have a 153 on my official LSAT record. I’ve been scoring in the low 160s on my practice tests, and want to score at least a 165 on the next LSAT (which I’ve hit before) for a scholarship offer. Should I take the next two LSAT tests offered? Or focus on the further one to better my score?
- Given the drop of applicants to law school (and schools needing to fill seats), should I apply for fall 2015 or fall of 2016 admission?
- Why is the February LSAT not disclosed and what does that mean?
- When should I sign up for the June LSAT?
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
And donâ€™t forget toÂ sign up for our email newsletterÂ to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book!Â We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out?Â Sign up and we’ll be in touch!
We’re back from winter break with answers to LSAT questions from listeners, and some exciting news about an upcoming project!
This year, we areÂ writingÂ a Logic Games book, which we believe, will will be the best resource available for that LSAT section. The book will contain 54 Logic Games with detailed explanations on how each one is completed.Â We’ll beÂ distributing free chapters in spring and summer, and willÂ be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. If you want to help us with that, sign up for the email newsletter and watch for more information.
In this week’s podcast, we answer several questions from listeners, including:
- Is there any way to prepare for the experimental section of the LSAT?
- What’s the best wayÂ toÂ deal with post-LSAT stress?
- How is the LSAT score scaled?
- What’s the best way to answer the following questions: must be true; necessary assumptions; and sufficient assumptions?
- Is it realistic to go from a LSAT score of 160 to 170 in three weeks?
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book!
Gerald Heppler, Associate Director of Admissions at Golden Gate University School of Law, spoke toÂ Nathan’s San Francisco LSAT class for a “Nobody’s Perfect” law school admissions Q&AÂ session.Â Some of the topics Gerald addressed are:
- What to do if you don’t have the perfect law school application
- If you haveÂ issues to report in theÂ character and fitness section of the application
- What to do if your undergraduate grades are not ideal
- Developing a wait list strategy
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Matt Sherman with Manhattan LSAT in San Diego joinsÂ Nathan and Ben to answer listenersâ€™ questions about the LSAT. Some of the topics theyÂ address are:
- Should you spendÂ time making inferences on pureÂ sequencing games; and which types of inferences should you make before going on to the questions?
- What should you do if you don’t see the answerÂ you predicted? Should you panicÂ or have an open mind when reviewingÂ the answer choices?
- What should youÂ do about main point questions and matching flaw questions (i.e. whether to read all five answer choices)?
- How to answer the first question in the Games section, and how many times students shouldÂ review the rules to assure they’reÂ not missing anything.
Matt also addressesÂ a question from Keaton, a Thinking LSAT listener,Â whoÂ asks whether his work experience and GPA have an impact onÂ law school admission decisions.
Nathan,Â Ben and MattÂ also discuss what students shouldÂ do in theÂ last few weeks before the December LSAT; specifically how to improve your score on the Games section.
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Ben and Nathan interview Evan Jones and Joshua Craven, founders of LawSchooli,Â one of the largest LSAT and law school admissions blogs. Evan and JoshuaÂ share how theyÂ struggled with the LSAT and what they did to turn around their studies. TheyÂ answer listenersâ€™ questions about the examÂ and law school admission. Some of the topics theyÂ address are:
- When to abandon a Logical Reasoning, game or reading passage question
- How should students analyze their results after the LSAT ends
- What to do (and what not to do) on LSAT test day
- When to submit law school applications and how to determine your target schools
- Tips for effectiveÂ LSAT study schedules
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Dave Hall of Velocity Test PrepÂ joinsÂ Nathan and Ben to answer listeners’ questions about the LSAT. Some of the topics theyÂ address are:
- How to answer remaining questions when the 5-minute warning is called
- What to do if you have a really difficultÂ LSAT section
- How to effectively answer Reading Comprehension questions
- What’s your strategy when you see the same answer choice popping up in oneÂ LSAT section
- When toÂ diagram “if-then” statements
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Ben and Nathan welcome to the podcast John Hankey, aÂ meditation expert who sharesÂ how meditation can help you prepare for the LSAT and conquer test anxiety.
Before speaking with John, theyÂ answer the following four LSAT preparation questions from listeners:
- What’s the best way to properly vet an LSAT tutor or course?
- If I want to improve my reading comprehension score, should I be readingÂ The Economist and The New York Times? Further, should I be doing sudoku puzzles to improve my logic games score?
- When should I recalibrate my LSATÂ goals? For example, if my goal was to completeÂ two perfect logic games, when should I increase the goal to three perfect games?
- Are LSAT forums an effective study tactic or way to prepare for the test?
Take a listen and tellÂ us what you think.
Ben and Nathan share thoughts about the September LSAT, and answer the following questions from two tutoring studentsÂ about improving your LSAT score:
- What score improvement can most students expect to see?
- Can you improve your Reading ComprehensionÂ score?
- If I’m getting the first 16 questions in Logical Reasoning correct, will it be difficult to improve my score in that section?
- Do I have to get at least a 170 on the LSAT to get into the law schools I want, or receive scholarship offers from other schools?
- Is there a study schedule that’sÂ more effective than others?
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Ann Levine, law school admissions expert and author of “Law School Admissions Game,” attended one of Nathan’s San Francisco LSAT classes toÂ answerÂ law school admission questions. Some of the topics Ann addresses are:
- Personal statements and diversity statements
- Letters of recommendation
- Applications and addenda
- How to address GPAÂ discrepancies
- Developing a wait list strategy
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Ben and Nathan talk about several LSAT topics, including:
- Strategies to approachÂ parallel reasoning questions
- Creating different scenarios in games, and how to split the main diagram into multiple options
- Whether to stay on course for taking the September LSAT, or aim for the December test;
- What to do during the last two weeks of September LSAT prep
- WhetherÂ you should start work onÂ your personal statement and application, or wait until after the LSAT
Take a listen and let us know what you think.
Nathan has a follow-up tutoring session with Ebony, aÂ student fromÂ Dallas, Texas. When we were first introduced to Ebony, she was struggling with a learning disability and was unsure how it would impact her LSAT performance.
In the time after her initial meeting with Nathan, Ebony putÂ into practice the following strategies:
- Donâ€™t skip the early questions
- TakeÂ practice testÂ fromÂ a current book LSAT examÂ (Ebony used Volume 5)
- Practice logic gamesÂ from older tests
- Slow down at the end and focus on accuracy (even if you donâ€™t finish)
- Skip the science-themed reading comprehension sections if needed
By only working on these strategies, Ebony’s practice LSAT scores increased from 152 to 157! She went from answering 32Â Logical Reasoning questions correctly to 40; and 16 correct Reading Comprehension questions to 21.
In this episode, Nathan and Ebony also reviewÂ Logical Reasoning questions and how to approach those for correct answers. They also discuss how to use the Fox LSAT online videos to enhance her LSAT practice sessions.
Nathan talks one-on-one with a student in Dallas, Texas. Â Topics include:
- Can you still go to law school if you have low GPA and a learning disability?
- How can the LSAT help you get into law school when you have a low GPA?
- Getting accommodations on the LSAT with ADHD or learning disabilities?
- How to address getting into law school with a poor GPA and learning disability.
- How do you apply for the LSAC fee waiver? What does the LSAC fee waiver get you?
- Should you apply to law schools that invite you to apply without the fee, even if you are not interested in attending?
LSAT strategy topics include:
- The importance of slowing down in order to understand the LSAT and make the questions easier for you.
- LSAT logic games have gotten easier over the past severalÂ years. Â Practicing old games is a great workout, but don’t let them get you too discouraged!
- Skipping the science passage in the Reading Comprehension section?
Ben and Nathan respond to listener questions, including “Is it possible to overstudy for the LSAT,” “How much time should I invest into my GPA vs. my LSAT score,” “Are […]
LSAT teacher and author Graeme Blake joins us from Montreal to discuss five things he learned while writing thousands of LSAT explanations, the Reddit LSAT forum, why Canadian law schools don’t care much for the LSAT, and lots more.
Links discussed on the show!
Graemeâ€™s â€œFive things I learnedâ€ article:
Graemeâ€™s email course:
Grade conversion table for Canadian schools (Ontario only):
AÂ rising senior from Columbia University, currently scoring 165 on the LSAT, asks us tons of great questions. Examples include: Â “If I’m testing an ‘if-then statement on a Could be True question on a logic game, do I also need to test the contrapositive?”… “What’s the best guessing strategy?”… “Should I bring an analog watch on test day?” “Should I study flash cards?”… and much more.
Nate Willis made the leap from 141 to 151 on his practice LSATs in less than two weeks. How did he do it? Strategy discussion includesÂ necessary and sufficient assumption questions, […]
Is there a starting LSAT score that’s too low to justify continuing? What’s the best way to learn Logic Games? Â What types of Logical Reasoning questions should be attacked first? Strategies for Main Conclusion questions. The awesome networking power of LinkedIn. Can meditation be used to improve your LSAT score? Is it a good idea to study for the LSAT in the grocery store? When should process of elimination be used?
Ben and Nathan discuss lesson plans for Week 1 of their new classes, including Logic Games and the LSAT’s most common (sufficientÂ vs.Â necessary) flaw.
Three totally awesome tipsÂ for improving your Reading Comprehension score. Plus law school and admissions talk with Valparaiso University law professor Zachary Calo.
We start with a discussion ofÂ what a bad strategy it is to read the question stem first. (If you’re a Blueprint instructor, we’d love to hear your case otherwise.) Then we go deep with LawSchoolExpert.com’s Ann Levine on whether to retake the LSAT, how to explain it if you do, and a range of other law school applications issues.
In this episode, Ben and I analyze UVA professor Alex Johnson’s “African-Americans, Law Schools and the LSAT,” a surprisingly candid look behind the scenes of the LSAT and law school admissions. Why do average scores of African Americans and Latinos trail the general population by such a wide margin? What does this mean for their admissions chances? Is there anything we can do to bridge this gap? Ben and I announce our search for one student of color who we can coach toward the September 2014 LSAT. Please email us if you’re interested!
We start with a discussion about the value of skepticism while takingÂ the LSAT, then look at one applicant’s decision for the fall of 2014. UC Davis? UNLV? William and Mary? […]
Our guest is Larkin Robson, owner of 180 Degrees LSAT in Brooklyn, New York. Topics include how to prepare for an unusually difficult logic game, good reasons vs. bad reasons […]
Ben and I mildly disagree on whether to bring a watch to test day, then vehemently agree that you should almost never cancel your LSAT score. On the issue of […]
Tips, tricks, and pitfalls for June 2014 LSAT test day. What to do in the last few days of prep. On the issue of “what to do if the logic games start out rocky,” Nathan and Ben offer partially conflicting advice for Gemma Donofrio, a 170-scorer looking to squeeze out those last few points. Thanks, Gemma, for being such an awesome guest.
Our maiden voyage. Ben and Nathan introduce themselves, then brave the waters of the LSAT’s fearsome new “Replace a Rule” logic games question. Unplanned strategy detours include game selection and game skipping, scoresheet bubbling technique, and drilling specific question types vs. hammering out 35-minute mixed sections. Welcome aboard.