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    Think Act Be Podcast

    The Think Act Be podcast features conversations about finding happiness, peace, and connection. Clinical psychologist Seth Gillihan talks with his guests about ways to nourish your mind, body, and spirit.

    For one-on-one sessions with Seth Gillihan: sethgillihan.com/1-1-sessions
    For individual psychotherapy (in CA or DC) with Joel Minden: cbtchico.com

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    Ep. 234: Dr. Scott Rick — How Tightwads and Spendthrifts Can Build Better Spending Habits Aug 07, 2024
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    My guest this week is Dr. Scott Rick, an associate professor of marketing and author of a great book called Tightwads and Spendthrifts: Navigating the Money Minefield in Real Relationships (affiliate link).

    Topics we discussed included:

    • Why our relationship with money is often complicated, no matter how much we have
    • Where our attitudes toward money and spending come from
    • Mental and emotional tendencies that predispose a person to being a tightwad
    • The tendency to act more like one’s parents as one moves through adulthood
    • My own tightwad tendencies, on the tightwad-spendthrift scale
    • The daily suffering that tightwads experience from not spending money
    • The lack of distress that spendthrifts feel about spending money
    • The tendency to unfairly criticize spendthrifts more than tightwads
    • Spendthrifts shopping for things they might need
    • The extent to which being a spendthrift or tightwad may be domain specific
    • Possible generational or situational effects on spending attitudes and habits
    • The experiences that tightwads often miss out on
    • Feeling like we have more money when we’re willing to spend it
    • The tendency to treat a raise and higher cost of living differently, especially for spendthrifts
    • Shopping momentum and what-the-hell behavior among spendthrifts
    • Why spendthrifts tend not to learn from their overspending
    • Why spending regret tends to be different for material things vs. experiences
    • Personality correlates of spendthrifts and tightwads
    • Why tightwads and spendthrifts often wind up together in romantic relationships
    • Whether it’s better for couples to have joint or separate bank accounts
    • The degree of financial transparency that is ideal for couples

    Scott Rick, PhD, is an associate professor of marketing at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business.

    Scott received his PhD in Behavioral Decision Research from Carnegie Mellon in 2007, and he then spent two years as a post-doctoral fellow at Wharton.

    His research focuses on understanding the emotional causes and consequences of consumer financial decision-making, with a particular interest in the behavior of tightwads and spendthrifts.

    The overarching goal of his work is to understand when and why consumers behave differently than they should behave (defined by an economically rational benchmark, a happiness-maximizing benchmark, or by how people think they should behave), and to develop marketing and policy interventions to improve consumers’ decision making and well-being.

    Find Scott online at his website where you can learn more about his work.


    Get full access to Think Act Be with Seth Gillihan at thinkactbe.substack.com/subscribe

    Ep. 233: Dr. Samir Chopra — How to Find Peace Even When You're Anxious Jul 24, 2024
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    My guest this week is philosopher and counselor Dr. Samir Chopra, author of the fascinating new book, Anxiety: A Philosophical Guide (affiliate link).

    Topics we discussed included:

    • The extent to which we are experiencing unique levels of anxiety in human history
    • Philosophical inquiry that springs from anxiety
    • The unconscious cognitive work we do to make the world sensible and navigable
    • My guest’s loss of both parents fairly early in life and the consequences on his psyche
    • Comparing our experienced misfortunes to the visible misfortunes of others
    • The fear of not making the best use of our lives
    • Being in the moment as an antidote to continual anxiety
    • The Buddhist explanation of why anxiety can persist even when all is well
    • Freedom from suffering through seeing the persistence of self as an illusion
    • Managing and reducing anxiety vs. living with it
    • Viewing anxiety as an ever-present entity in one’s life

    Samir Chopra, PhD, is a philosophical counselor and professor emeritus of philosophy at Brooklyn College and the Graduate Center of the City University of New York.

    He’s the author and coauthor of many books, including Shyam Benegal, A Legal Theory for Autonomous Artificial Agents, and Eye on Cricket.

    His essays have appeared in the Nation, the Los Angeles Review of Books, Aeon, Psyche, and other publications.

    Find Samir online at his website where you can learn more about his work and contact him about counseling sessions.


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    Ep. 232: Dr. Marla Deibler — Hope for Healing from Hair Pulling, Skin Picking, and Other Body-Focused Repetitive Behaviors Jul 10, 2024
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    My guest this week is Dr. Marla Deibler, a clinical psychologist who specializes in treating anxiety. We discussed her excellent new book, The BFRB Recovery Workbook (affiliate link). Check out the publisher’s website where you can download many free worksheets and resources.

    Topics we discussed included:

    • When a body-focused repetitive behavior becomes a diagnosable disorder
    • Common physical consequences of BFRBs
    • Behaviors associated with the hair-pulling of trichotillomania, a type of BFRB
    • The buildup of hair in the digestive system (trichobezoar) from ingesting hair
    • What makes BFRBs so hard to stop
    • The rewarding feeling that often accompanies BFRBs
    • Fixing something with a BFRB that doesn’t feel quite right
    • Why willpower alone is usually not enough to stop BFRBs
    • Ambivalence in the process of change: wanting to change and not wanting to change
    • The importance of a functional analysis to understand what drives behaviors
    • Wanting to jump to fixing a problematic behavior before understanding it
    • The importance of awareness for treatment
    • Practicing incompatible responses to interrupt the habit of BFRBs
    • The relation of BFRBs to OCD and other types of compulsive behaviors
    • The important role of acceptance and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)
    • The problems of using punishment to shape behavior

    Marla W. Deibler, PsyD, ABPP, is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, Board-Certified in Behavioral and Cognitive Psychology, and Founder/Executive Director of The Center for Emotional Health of Greater Philadelphia.

    Marla serves on the Faculty of the Behavior Therapy Training Institute (BTTI) of the International OCD Foundation.

    She serves as President of the Board of Directors of OCD NJ, the NJ affiliate of the IOCDF, Consultant for the New Jersey Center for Tourette Syndrome, Visiting Clinical Supervisor at the Rutgers University Psychological Services Clinic, and Executive Council member of the ACBS OCD SIG.

    She is co-author of The BFRB Recovery Workbook: A Step-By-Step Guide to Effective Recovery from Hair Pulling, Skin Picking, Nail Biting, and Other Body-Focused Repetitive Behaviors.

    Find Marla online at her website.


    Get full access to Think Act Be with Seth Gillihan at thinkactbe.substack.com/subscribe

    Ep. 231: Dr. Alissa Jerud — Effective Ways to Manage Anxiety Related to Pregnancy and Miscarriage Jun 26, 2024
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    My guest this week is Dr. Alissa Jerud, a clinical psychologist who specializes in treating anxiety.

    Topics we discussed included:

    • The anxiety conditions Alissa treats
    • Anxiety related to pregnancy and fertility
    • The difficulty of experiencing miscarriage
    • My guest’s own experience of two miscarriages
    • The conditioned anxiety after the first loss
    • Pregnancy as a perfect setup for anxiety
    • Dealing with the desire to avoid distressing reminders
    • The benefits of facing certain things that are painful
    • Talking with others about difficult experiences
    • Learning to sit with uncertainty
    • Accepting the possibility that things might not go the way we want them to
    • Ways that we try to subtly protect ourselves from anxiety or disappointment
    • Embracing the good and the bad—opening to all of it
    • The benefits and limitations of cognitive techniques for dealing with worry
    • The willingness to talk with and listen to those who have experienced miscarriage

    Alissa Jerud, PhD, is a licensed clinical psychologist working in private practice and a Clinical Assistant Professor of Psychology in the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania.

    She completed her doctoral training at the University of Washington and did a postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Pennsylvania’s Center for the Treatment and Study of Anxiety.

    In her private practice, Alissa specializes in exposure-based treatment of anxiety-related disorders, including obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), social anxiety, panic disorder, specific phobias, and generalized anxiety.

    Additionally, she specializes in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) skills training, which includes skills in mindfulness, emotion regulation, distress tolerance, and interpersonal effectiveness.

    Alissa is passionate about helping as many people as possible, not only through her clinical work, but also through her writing and speaking engagements. She enjoys training other clinicians in exposure-based treatments and frequently gives workshops on anxiety, stress, mental health, parenting, and social support to companies large and small.

    She especially enjoys helping parents (including herself) learn to accept, regulate, and tolerate their emotions, as well as their children’s.

    Find Alissa online at her website.


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    Ep. 230: Ethan Nichtern — Mindful Awareness 5. A Better Way of Working with the Mind You Have Jun 12, 2024
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    My guest this week for part 5 of our series on mindful awareness is Ethan Nichtern, author of a new book called Confidence: Holding Your Seat Through Life’s Eight Worldly Winds (affiliate link).

    Topics we discussed included:

    • Confidence as trusting we can navigate our own minds
    • Making friends with our inner experience
    • Equanimity as realizing that everything affects you
    • The eight worldly winds or forces:
      • Pleasure/pain
      • Praise/blame
      • Influence/insignificance
      • Success/failure
    • Showing up and working with whatever happens to us
    • Mindfulness leading one to feel more but suffer less
    • The first arrow/second arrow metaphor from Buddhism
    • Not pretending something painful is not painful
    • The normalness of reacting to the eight worldly winds
    • Being willing to admit that we’re having an experience we’re having
    • Why hope can be a trap just as much fear is
    • The stress that comes with the possibility of good things
    • The longing to be OK … in every way … forever
    • The incredible power in just knowing what our mind is doing
    • Mindfulness as a good way to practice working with the mind

    Ethan Nichtern is a renowned contemporary Buddhist teacher and the author of The Dharma of the Princess Bride, One City, and the widely acclaimed The Road Home (affiliate link).

    Since 2002, Ethan has taught meditation and Buddhist psychology classes and workshops in New York City and around North America.

    He has lectured at meditation/yoga centers, conferences, and universities including Brown, Yale, and NYU.

    Ethan has been featured by CNN, NPR, the New York Times, Vogue, and Business Insider, and has written for the Huffington Post, Beliefnet, Lion’s Roar, Tricycle, Buddhadharma, and more. He lives in Brooklyn.

    Find Ethan online at his website and find his courses at Dharma Moon.


    Get full access to Think Act Be with Seth Gillihan at thinkactbe.substack.com/subscribe

    Ep. 229: Amanda Knox — Mindful Awareness 4. What If There Is Nothing Between You and Your Well-Being? May 28, 2024
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    My guest this week is Amanda Knox, author of the New York Times bestselling book Waiting to be Heard (affiliate link). Amanda’s name is probably familiar to you because she was in the news a lot over a decade ago when she was tried for murder in Italy. Even though she was convicted, it turned out the charges were completely false, and eventually she was fully exonerated.

    Topics we discussed included:

    • Amanda’s history of being falsely accused of murder
    • The power of the anchoring bias in maintaining false impressions
    • My guest’s feelings toward the prosecutor on her case
    • Letting go of the need for other people to believe certain things about us
    • The fundamental insight that there is nothing between you and your well-being
    • Figuring out what we can give or take action on, instead of waiting for others to give us what we need
    • Deciding not to be the victim
    • Discovering what no one can take away from you
    • The inherent opportunity in any kind of experience
    • The deep empathy that comes from Amanda’s experience
    • Grieving the loss of the life that could have been
    • The freedom of recognizing that everything is in flux all the time
    • Realizing that this actually is my life, and choosing intentionally to live it
    • Tolerating anything for short bouts of time (with reference to The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt)
    • My guest’s relationship with comedy
    • “Hurt Feelings” by Flight of the Conchords
    • Laughing at the absurdity of our self-seriousness

    Amanda Knox is an exoneree, journalist, public speaker, and co-host, with her partner Christopher Robinson, of the podcast Labyrinths.

    Between 2007 and 2015, she spent nearly four years in an Italian prison and eight years on trial for a murder she didn’t commit.

    She has since become an advocate for criminal justice reform and media ethics.

    She sits on the board of the Frederick Douglass Project for Justice.

    Find Amanda online on X/Twitter and Instagram and on her website, and check out her excellent podcast Labyrinths that she co-hosts with Christopher Robinson.


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    Ep. 228: Brett Larkin — Mindful Awareness 3. How Yoga Can Elevate Every Part of Your Life May 15, 2024
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    My guest this week is Brett Larkin, yoga instructor and author of Yoga Life: : Habits, Poses, and Breathwork to Channel Joy Amidst the Chaos (affiliate link).

    Topics we discussed included:

    • Practicing yoga with awareness
    • The appeal of yoga for helping us remember that we’re more than our minds and brains
    • Yoga as a “science laboratory” to observe what’s happening internally and how one responds to life
    • The moment my guest discovered what yoga can teach us about ourselves
    • How to distinguish our highest Self from the inner strategist that keeps us in unhelpful patterns
    • Looking for opportunities to move through life in a new way
    • Crafting a yoga practice to offer you what you need
    • 20 minutes as a thoroughly adequate length of yoga practice
    • Self-care and being one’s own parents
    • The complementary energies of the masculine (Shiva) and feminine (Shakti)
    • Balancing acceptance and change, as in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT)
    • Prioritizing the breath in yoga as a means to awareness
    • The non-optimal inhibited breathing we often get trapped in
    • A brief guided experience in healthy breathing
    • Discovering through yoga that there is a healthier way to live

    Brett Larkin is the founder of Uplifted Yoga and the author of Yoga Life.

    She has trained thousands of yoga teachers, and her training has set the standard for quality online certification since 2015.

    Brett’s award-winning YouTube channel has with over half a million subscribers, and her Uplifed Yoga Podcastempowers listeners to actively design their lives using yoga’s ancient wisdom.

    Yoga enthusiasts love her courses on Kundalini, Prenatal Yoga, and the Uplifted Yoga Academy.

    Learn more about Brett and her practice at her website.


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    Ep. 227: Dr. Steve Taylor — Mindful Awareness 2. Cultivating the Conditions for Spiritual Awakening May 01, 2024
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    My guest this week is psychologist Dr. Steve Taylor, author of the new book, The Adventure: A Practical Guide to Spiritual Awakening (affiliate link).

    Topics we discussed included:

    • The practical components of “enlightenment” or “spiritual awakening”
    • Commonalities across different spiritual traditions
    • The unease and anxiety created by a sense of separateness from the world and others
    • The fundamental background unease humans tend to feel
    • The hijacking of spiritual awakening by the ego
    • Aligning yourself with the organic impulse toward growth and greater awareness
    • The process of waking up and transforming through intense suffering
    • The naturalness of waking up, which often happens spontaneously
    • Disidentification with the thought mind as the first step in spiritual awakening
    • The difference between identifying vs. deidentifying with a worry
    • The power of emptying one’s mind
    • The relative amount of time spent in absorption, abstraction, and awareness
    • A “gentle mental nudge” to spend more time in awareness
    • Accepting your non-acceptance and embracing your imperfections

    Steve Taylor, PhD, is the author of many bestselling books.

    He’s senior lecturer in psychology at Leeds Beckett University and the chair of the Transpersonal Psychology Section of the British Psychological Society.

    Steve’s articles and essays have been published in over 100 academic journals, magazines, and newspapers.

    He blogs for Scientific American and Psychology Today.

    Visit him online at his website.


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    Ep. 226: Dr. Beth Kurland — Mindful Awareness 1. Finding Peace of Mind When Life Is Difficult Apr 17, 2024
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    My guest this week is psychologist Dr. Beth Kurland, author of the new book, You Don’t Have to Change to Change Everything: Six Ways to Shift Your Vantage Point, Stop Striving for Happy, and Find True Well-Being (affiliate link). We begin with a calming guided meditation that Beth led.

    Topics we discussed included:

    • The assumption that not feeling at ease is a personal failure
    • Being with our distress without being swallowed up by it
    • Cultivating well-being in the absence of happiness
    • The role of self-compassion in well-being
    • Recognizing and connecting with a deeper part of ourselves, whether we call is Self, spirit, or soul
    • Seeing the world from our Wise Self
    • Living from our head vs. being more connected to and aware of the body
    • Contraction vs. expansion in the area around the heart
    • Why we don’t habitually run toward our body and wise Self as refuges
    • A simple practice for coming back into one’s body
    • Proper breathing for calming the nervous system

    Beth Kurland, PhD, is a clinical psychologist with three decades of experience.

    She is also a TEDx and public speaker, a mind-body coach, and an author of three award-winning books: Dancing on The Tightrope; The Transformative Power of Ten Minutes; and Gifts of the Rain Puddle.

    Beth blogs for Psychology Today and is the creator of the Well-Being Toolkit online program. She lives in the Boston area.

    For more, visit her website.


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    Ep. 225: Dr. Peter Levine — The Transformative Power of Healing from Trauma Apr 03, 2024
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    My guest this week is Dr. Peter Levine, who is well-known for being the developer of Somatic Experiencing. He’s also the author of a new book: An Autobiography of Trauma: A Healing Journey (affiliate link), which we focused on in this very enjoyable and meaningful discussion.

    Peter shared about how his own wounds from early in life were a big part of what led him into the field of trauma therapy. We explored how the healing continues, even now in Peter’s ninth decade.

    Topics we discussed included:

    • What Peter means when he describes himself as a modern “Chiron”
    • Using our own wounds in life as we’re working to help others
    • Getting to trauma memories and healing through embodiment in somatic experiencing
    • The horrific trauma Peter experienced early in his life
    • The dream that led Peter to share this book rather than writing it only for his own healing
    • The significance of dreams for waking life
    • Learning to attend to the promptings of the unconscious mind
    • The relation between somatic experiencing and an approach like cognitive behavioral therapy
    • The role of the vagus nerve in the trauma response and in healing
    • Using the body to encounter our traumas in a healing way
    • Why a union of the body and mind tends to reduce anxiety
    • The disconnection we so often experience between our minds and bodies
    • Peter’s reaction to a meditation workshop several decades ago
    • The idea of “living your dying”
    • Connections between death and the divine
    • The promises and pitfalls of psychedelics

    Peter Levine, PhD, is the renowned developer of Somatic Experiencing.

    He holds a doctorate in medical and biological Physics from the University of California at Berkeley and a doctorate in psychology from International University.

    The recipient of four lifetime achievement awards, he is the author of several books, including Waking the Tiger, which has now been printed in 33 countries and has sold over a million copies.

    Learn more about:

    • Peter Levine
    • Somatic Experiencing
    • An Autobiography of Trauma

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