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**The Way of the Crab**

A podcast where two Rustaceans set out to make a game. In each episode, we talk about what we’ve been working on using the Rust programming language as well as other topics that have been on our mind or our listeners have asked about.

Latest Episodes:

Episode 12: Code reuse could lead to bugs Aug 31, 2023

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00:26: Wordle
- Nerdle
08:36: Programming language design discussions
28:11: Optimizing our user interfaces
39:15: Ecton's recent work on BonsaiDb
42:50: Keeping our systems up to date
- rustup
44:40: Rust 1.72
55:38: What else have we been up to?

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 11: Always check your inputs and outputs Aug 08, 2023

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00:18 What has Ecton been up to?
- Erlang
- Elixir
- BEAM
- Bud
- nom
- Crafting Interpreters
12:50 What has ToggleBit been up to?
17:50 Do we have practices we follow when releasing code?
21:35 A discussion of types arising from a story of an ash cloud
- Typestates in The Embedded Rust Book: Static Guarantees.
30:00 Did our early development experiences become our preferred experiences?
39:45 What is our current vision of the game user interface?
- Mordor: The Depths of Dejenol

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 10: They're making a programming language now?! Jul 29, 2023

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00:00:20 What has Ecton been up to?
- Gooey
- wgpu
- winit
00:01:20 What has ToggleBit been up to? (Removing Lifetimes)
00:06:55 Writing public test utilities?
00:09:14 What is our podcast recording setup?
- Audacity
00:15:00 Pressure cooker fun
- Kristoff
- Zig
00:17:50 Optimizing [Anathema]
00:35:00 Ask us questions! (Links at the bottom of the notes)
00:38:30 Web frameworks in Rust
00:51:50 Floating point vs Integer math for 2D graphics
- Epsilon
01:05:40 How is Gooey going to handle animations?
- Easings.net
01:10:40 FlexBox vs alternative layout systems?
01:26:10 Is Gooey something we want to build?
- cosmic_text::Editor
- cosmic_text::ViEditor (not currently listed on docs.rs)

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 9: Did you start Steam? Jun 30, 2023

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00:17 What has Ecton been up to?
05:40 What has Togglebit been up to?
13:50 Vacationing with or without a laptop
20:48 What are our favorite flavors of ice cream?
21:55 What are we going to start working on first?
30:53 Game monetization
- 1,000 True Fans
37:33 Optimizing time-to-play
43:55 How do we want to start organizing our work?
50:45 Why is Ecton building all these things?
- BonsaiDb
- Microsoft Excel Add-in for EVE Online

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 8: Beware of spiders Jun 23, 2023

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00:55 What has Ecton been up to?
- CityHasher
- CRC
- Gooey
- wgpu
- winit
- Kludgine
- glyphon
06:30 What has Togglebit been up?
21:06 How do we approach planning/project management?
26:50 What are the "worst" projects we worked on?
- Domain Specific Language
37:15 Diving into wgpu
- rend3
- Fyrox
53:05 How do we approach learning new concepts and codebases?

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 7: Shoehorning unsafe code Jun 17, 2023

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00:19: What has Ecton been working on?
- Gooey
- The Reddit blackout explained
- Lemmy
- Usenet
- ActivityPub
- Mastodon
- kbin
04:49: What has ToggleBit been working on?
- Anathema
- BonsaiDb
- wgpu
08:49: User experience testing / watching other people use your software
- ToggleBit's Twitch Stream
14:58: How do we approach benchmarking?
29:39: How do we organize our Rust projects?
- Embedded Cargo.toml aka "Cargo Script"
39:38: Do we write a lot of unsafe code?
- Rustonomicon
- Miri
49:45: super_cool_joey from Discord asks: Are we going to open source our project?

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 6: Making sure the happy path is happy Jun 09, 2023

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Ecton and ToggleBit meet for the sixth episode of The Way of the Crab. In this episode, they discuss what they've been working on, their unit testing philosophies, and how they evaluate crates. And most importantly... they avoid discussing their game project for another episode!

01:02: Updating BonsaiDb dependencies
08:56: Working on styling Gooey apps
11:56: Working on Anathema's viewport
17:56: Our philosophies on writing tests
- kempt
- cargo llvm-cov
36:57: Having strong opinions
44:05: How do we find and evaluate crates?
- fnv
- RandomState

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 5: Putting Lipstick on a Pig Jun 01, 2023

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Ecton and ToggleBit meet for the fifth episode of The Way of the Crab. They discuss everything except their game project.

00:25: What has Ecton been working on?
- OnceLock/OnceCell stabilized in Rust 1.70
- Gooey
- kempt (Ecton's library he released, but failed to name on the podcast)
- PartialOrd<str> missing for String
03:54: What has ToggleBit been working on?
- Clippy
- ChillFish8
23:40: ModProg asks, "how much time did you waste due to me using your libraries?"
- leptos
- Rsn
- Ron
26:40: Opinions on updating minimum Rust versions on projects?
29:57: What do you do when you're stuck on a problem?
38:10: Looking into the standard library for fun
41:20: What are some of our personal rules for programming?
50:36: Our highlights from Rust 1.70 release notes
54:30: ToggleBit helps a friend try Rust
- cargo watch
58:03: sbutcher1969 asks, "When you were first learning Rust, what was the hardest part for you, what did you struggle with the most? And why?"

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 4: Bunnies, Boxes, and Style May 26, 2023

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Ecton and ToggleBit meet for the fourth episode of The Way of the Crab.

In this episode they discuss:

What they've been working on
User interface styling
Premature optimization
Box<str> vs String
Will their game have questing in our game?
Making a programmable game?
Backwards compatibility

Here are links to various topics mentioned throughout the episode. The list is organized by when it is first mentioned.

We welcome your feedback and questions and have set up these ways of reaching us:

Email us at podcast@wayofthecrab.com
Join our Discord community.
Post on our GitHub Discussions

Episode 3: The Pit of Stupid May 18, 2023

Show notes

Ecton and ToggleBit meet for the third episode of The Way of the Crab.

In this episode they discuss:

What have they been working on?
Premature allocation optimization
Squashing Commits vs Keeping Commit History
Domain Specific Languages (DSLs) vs Pure Rust
Our game project
- Utilize generative AI?
- Character Progression
- How open will their design process be?
- "Finding the fun"

Here are links to various topics mentioned throughout the episode. The list is organized by when it is first mentioned.