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    The VPZD Show

    Two doctors, one podcast, Alt-Middle as heck. Featuring Dr. Vinay Prasad (host of Plenary Session) and Dr. Zubin Damania (host of The ZDoggMD Show).

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    Latest Episodes:
    Kids' Museum COVID Policy, 5-11 y.o. Vax Efficacy, Public Health Restrictions Mar 01, 2022
    Show notes

    In this episode we discuss:

    -Dr. Z's Twitter "bullying" of the California Academy of Sciences kids' museum over their restrictive booster/testing entrance policy (and why Z deleted Twitter at last). Read about it in MedPage Today.

    -New data on the efficacy (or lack thereof) of Pfizer's vaccine in the 5-11 year old population and what this means for policy.

    -Why public health may need controls placed on it in the future to avoid restrictive policies that lack evidence (see also: Vinay's Substack article).

    -Dr. Z debunks some antivaccine claims about a Swedish study on Pfizer's mRNA vaccine in liver cells.

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Tribalism, Deplatforming, FDA Kids' Vaccine Reversal Feb 17, 2022
    Show notes

    In this episode: The badges of tribal identity for COVID thesis/antithesis tribes, "deplatforming" scientists and the conditioning of young people, liberals and conservatives trading places, aiming for post-cynical discourse, the perils of comparing nations' COVID outcomes, and the FDA's crazy <5 y.o. kids' vaccine EUA mess.

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Booster Coercion, Vax 4 Toddlers, Canceling Rogan Feb 04, 2022
    Show notes

    The docs talk about Vinay getting a booster or losing his job, why we continue to mask children, Pfizer's vaccine dance with the FDA around children younger than 5, the wisdom of trying to cancel Joe Rogan, Spotify's "trusted" COVID disclaimer, and the urgency of getting kids back to a normal.

    Here's the Urgency Of Normal site that Vinay referenced in the show.

    Full transcript: https://zdoggmd.com/podcasting/vpzd-11/

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Dr. Robert Malone's Joe Rogan Interview, Decoded Jan 20, 2022
    Show notes

    Vinay and Z dive deep on the latest censored antithesis hero while trying to make sense of sense-making in general. Here's Vinay's piece on this in Unherd.

    And here's the Rebel Wisdom episode on sense-making that I referenced. Full transcript: https://zdoggmd.com/podcasting/vpzd-10/

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Offit & Kids' Boosters, Schizo CDC, Omicron Dominoes Fall Jan 13, 2022
    Show notes

    We dive into Dr. Paul Offit's Atlantic piece on boosting teens, the nature of the CDC's apparent schizophrenia, the long term effects on the "pandemic generation," and how Omicron is causing all our prior policy dominoes to fall. Also: FUNNY TWEETS 🤓

    Here's Dr. Paul Offit's Atlantic article we mentioned. Full transcript: https://zdoggmd.com/podcasting/vpzd-9/

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Omicron Mitigation, Djokovic, Dumb COVID Tweets Jan 06, 2022
    Show notes

    In this Omi-sode:

    1) Can omicron be mitigated AT ALL? The Bay Area experience currently.

    2) Novak Djokovic and the COVID vaccine

    3) Covidiots vs. Covidians, where is the Alt-Middle? Rogan's role.

    4) The dumbest tweets of 2021

    5) Who was most right about COVID policy?

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Your Date With Omicron, "Fringe" Scientists, Myocarditis, COVID & College Kids Dec 27, 2021
    Show notes

    Many questions addressed on this last episode of 2021!

    1. Should people who talk about COVID policy actually see COVID patients, and are doctors biased by their daily practice experience?
    2. How should holiday meals "safely" occur, and how can we understand risk and risk reduction?
    3. Are Vinay and Zubin wrong about the response around college students and COVID?
    4. Did Francis Collins try to discredit "fringe epidemiologist" Jay Bhattacharya and his colleagues instead of promoting dialog?
    5. Why is Dr. Z so sick of talking about COVID?
    6. Is Omicron milder than prior strains?
    7. Is myocarditis from vaccines in young men more common than myocarditis from natural COVID infection?

    Here's the UK myocarditis preprint that Vinay referenced.

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Rogan/McCullough, Boosters & Omicron, Myocarditis Trial Data, Virtue Signaling Dec 15, 2021
    Show notes

    This week we dive into Dr. Z's personal booster decision, do vaccines reduce transmission in setting of variants like Omicron, Joe Rogan’s interview with Dr. Peter McCullough , the hypocrisy of physicians who demand masks and distancing and then do the opposite themselves, medical students speaking out against distance learning, new myocarditis trial data with implications for Moderna and spacing vaccines in general, meditation stuff, the problem with virtue signaling, the number needed to boot with vaccine passports to prevent 1 transmission, and MUCH MORE.

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Stifling Physician Voices, Politicized Journalism, German Kids Study, Policy Solutions Dec 10, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode we dive into some emails Dr. Z received about hospital COVID policies and medical education (and how our leaders are screwing up), the problem with mandates in healthcare, and strongly negative feedback for us from a critical care nurse on the front lines about our vaccine messaging. In the news, we react to NPR’s piece saying Trump voters more likely to die of COVID, what is the nature of “misinformation” on both sides of the political spectrum, the challenges of quantitative journalism, the German study on kids and COVID risk, Pfizer omicron booster press release and surrogate endpoints, and Vinay’s policy proposals to make the COVID mess better.

    Here's all our other shows featuring VP.

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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    Omicron Panic, Natural Immunity, Fluvoxamine, Boosters, Fauci (w/ Dr. Marty Makary) Dec 04, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Marty Makary joins the fray for a science & reason SMACKDOWN 🔥 How many Omicrons does this register on the media fear-o-meter?

    Check out all our shows with MedPage today editor-in-chief Dr. Marty Makary here. And all our shows with UCSF hematologist-oncologist Dr. Vinay Prasad here. And our new joint podcast, The VPZD Show, here. And here's the video version of this interview!

    Topics & Timecodes:

    0:00 Intro

    2:17 Boosters for All?

    8:47 Young people + Covid, flawed CDC studies?

    12:45 Natural immunity, Myocarditis, population risk vs. benefit

    21:15 The narrative of simplicity and one-size-fits-all in public health

    27:12 How we’re treating college students re: COVID quarantine, boosting, testing

    30:45 Omicron, animal source?

    34:08 Journalistic responsibility, and natural immunity revisited, what healthcare CEOS should do

    43:28 Dr. Oz and the state of politics due to COVID disruptions in economy and freedoms

    47:40 Socioeconomic status effects under COVID policies

    53:59 Why so slow to learn more about vaccine resistance and omicron? The role of media

    57:31 Therapeutics like fluvoxamine (Luvox) vs. molnupiravir

    1:04:50 Zero COVID is a delusion, so focus protection where it matters

    1:05:27 Fluvoxamine and the hydroxychloroquine/ivermectin debacle

    1:08:23 Fauci’s foibles

    1:12:12 Gain of function research

    1:21:56 Listening to doctors

    1:26:45 Pandemic of lunacy, gain of fear, and Fear-naught values

    1:32:57 Cloth masks, and masking as distraction from real risks

    1:34:58 Chemotherapy shortages

    • Subscribe to "The VPZD Show" on your favorite podcast app.
    • Check out our new Substack collaboration, "Sensible Medicine" here.
    • Dr. Prasad's "Plenary Session" podcast.
    • Dr. Damania's "ZDoggMD Show" podcast.
    • More on Vinay.
    • More on Zubin.

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