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    The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world’s greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia’s Doug Leone and Benchmark’s Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify’s Daniel Ek, Linkedin’s Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake’s Frank Slootman.

    If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.

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    20VC: Figma's IPO: The Full Breakdown | Index Returns $3.5BN on Two Deals | Why Melio's $2.5BN Acquisition is "Discouraging" | Asana's New CEO and the Great Founder Exodus | Oracle's $30BN AI Deal and What it Means for Incumbents Jul 03, 2025
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    AGENDA:

    00:00 – $400B in AI CapEx: Rational Investment or Madness?

    05:00 – Figma's IPO: Rule of 80, $1.5B in cash, 40% margins. Unreal.

    08:00 – Adobe Screwed the Deal—Should They Have Just Bought Canva?

    16:00 – Pay-to-Play Deals: Heroic Hail Mary or Guaranteed Write-Off?

    21:30 – How Index Is Returning $3.5B on 2 Deals

    24:00 – Melio's $2.5B Exit: Insane Growth… So Why Did They Sell?!

    35:00 – Massive Penthouses and the Death of Focus: AI Founders Beware

    39:00 – Chime, Anthropic, Menlo & The Art of Selling LPs the Future

    41:00 – Couchbase Acquired: PE Buyers Are Back… Or Are They?

    44:00 – Why No One's Buying These 9-Figure SaaS Zombies

    48:00 – If You Didn't Grow from AI By June 30, You're Already Dead

    53:00 – Superhuman vs The AI-Natives: Who Wins the Replatforming War?

    54:30 – Oracle's $30B AI Deal: Larry Did It Before You Even Started

    56:00 – Scale Is Dead. Long Live Surge. The AI Data War Gets Bloody.

    01:01:00 – Asana CEO Move & the Great Founder Exodus of 2025

    01:06:00 – Will Cluely's Founder Be a Billionaire by 2029? Place Your Bets


    20VC: Inside KKR's Monster $8BN European Fund | The $500M Turkey Gamble That Went Wrong | Do Andreessen & General Catalyst Scare KKR? | Will AI Kill the PE Model? | Can The PE Model Survive without IPOs and Where is the Liquidity with Philip Freise Jun 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Philipp Freise is Co-Head of European Private Equity at KKR, where he manages the largest private fund in Europe with $8BN in the latest fund. Philip has led KKR's investments in FGS Global, Superstruct, Axel Springer SE, BMG Rights Management, Fotolia, GetYourGuide, GfK SE, Leonine, Mediawan SAS, Scout24 Switzerland and Trainline. Previously, Philip worked at McKinsey & Company in and co-founded Berlin-based VC firm Venturepark, Europe's first pan-European incubator.

    Agenda:

    00:00 – "We Lost $500M in Turkey. Here's Why We'll Never Do It Again."

    01:40 – Inside Europe's Biggest PE Fund: $8B of Pure Firepower

    03:55 – The $100M Dot-Com Failure That Changed My Career

    06:45 – Why Picking the Wrong VC Will Destroy Your Company

    10:20 – KKR's $500M COVID Gamble: Genius or Insane?

    12:35 – Why We Ignored the Market & Deployed 40% of Our Fund

    15:55 – KKR's Ruthless Portfolio Discipline: Love Doesn't Matter

    17:10 – Do Power Laws Apply in PE? Freise Destroys the Myth

    18:45 – The Truth About Capital Intensity in the Age of AI

    20:10 – Can AI Kill the PE Model? Here's What Philipp Says

    26:00 – The Secret to Great Investment Decisions at KKR

    32:40 – Why There's a $3T Liquidity Time Bomb in Venture

    34:25 – The Death of IPOs? How KKR Exits Without Going Public

    40:05 – Will KKR Europe Hit $20B? Freise's Bold Prediction

    43:45 – Helsing, Space, and Defense: The New Age of DeepTech Bets

    45:30 – Tariffs, China, and the Future of the German Car Empire

    47:00 – Freise vs. Bitcoin: Will USD Still Rule in 10 Years?

    48:15 – 4 Global Shocks Happening Right Now That You Need to Know

    51:30 – KKR Missed Spotify AND Alibaba?! The Painful Stories

    53:00 – Do Andreessen & General Catalyst Scare KKR? Freise Responds

    54:30 – The One Metric That Will Define KKR's Next Decade


    20Sales: How to Layer Enterprise Sales on PLG | How to Sell AI Tools To Enterprises That Are Scared | Should Reps Own Their Own Pipeline | Mistakes All Founders Make When Moving From Founder-Led to Rep-Led Sales with Kim Graves Jun 27, 2025
    Show notes

    Kim Graves is GM, Americas at Notion, where she oversees all Sales and Customer Success efforts across the region. She brings extensive experience in building and scaling high-performing sales organizations, most notably at Slack where she helped grow revenue from $6M to over $1.5B. In addition to her operational role, Kim serves as a founding partner at 20SALES, a GTM-focused VC firm, where she advises early-stage companies on scaling revenue and optimizing sales processes.

    Agenda:

    07:00 – The Secret to Winning a Discount Conversation

    09:30 – Notion's Wild New Sales Method: Mindsets Over Stages

    12:00 – Why Great Sellers Never Talk Product Too Soon

    14:00 – How Slack Avoided the Biggest PLG Trap of All

    17:00 – The Fatal Mistake Founders Make Layering Sales on PLG

    20:00 – The "Renaissance Reps" That Build Billion-Dollar Motions

    23:00 – How to Spot True Grit in a Sales Hire (Without Asking Directly)

    26:00 – The Case Study Test That Filters Out Bullshitters

    30:00 – The Real Reason Most Reps Fail Onboarding

    33:00 – Should Reps Own Their Own Pipeline? Kim's Take Is Clear

    36:00 – Why Cold Calling Works in 2025 (And Nobody Does It)

    39:00 – The Sales Team Audit: The REKS Framework That Changes Everything

    43:00 – How to Avoid Hiring the Wrong Rep Under Pressure

    45:00 – When Sales Feels Second Class: PLG vs Enterprise Tension

    47:00 – The One Thing Reps Still Do That AI Will Obliterate

    50:00 – AI Sales Tools: Why Every Startup Is Failing to Get It Right

    53:00 – Will We Have More or Fewer Reps in 5 Years?

    56:00 – Enterprises Are Scared of AI – Here's How You Break In Anyway

    59:00 – Kim's Secret for Getting Past Gatekeepers and Fake Champions

    1:09:00 – Kim's Hardest Phase at Slack and How She Survived It


    20VC: Nat Friedman and Daniel Gross Bought with Zuck's $100BN AI Budget | Navan Files to Go Public and Canva Pulls the Brakes: Why and What Happens | Why Larry Ellison is the Smartest Man in Tech | Substance or Sizzle: What is Real and What is BS in AI Jun 26, 2025
    Show notes

    Agenda:

    04:21 - The Meta Acquisition Bombshell: Nat Friedman & Daniel Gross Join Facebook?!

    06:00 - Facebook's $100 Billion Gamble: Can Zuck Buy the Future?

    09:27 - The "Magic Room" Theory: Why Only Insiders Get Billion-Dollar Paydays

    11:27 - Is Loyalty Dead in Silicon Valley? The Great Talent Exodus

    16:00 - Harvey's $5 Billion Valuation: Genius or Bubble?

    19:00 - The AI Gold Rush: Can Software Really Eat Human Labor?

    22:00 - The B2B Unicorn Dilemma: Are There Enough $100B Companies?

    25:00 - IPO Mania: Why Navan, Canva, and Circle Are Shaking Up the Markets

    29:00 - Meme Stocks & Market Madness: The Circle Rollercoaster

    32:00 - Canva's Billion-Dollar Question: Why Stay Private?

    36:00 - Larry Ellison's Power Play: How to Buy Back Your Own Empire

    39:00 - The Sales Tech Revolution: Why "Cheating" Tools Are the Next Big Thing

    42:00 - Slack Lockdown: Is B2B Software About to Get Ugly?

    45:00 - The Ultimate Quickfire: Will Trump Launch a Smartphone? Will the US Seize AI?


    20VC: The Wild Story Raising $450M From Masa and Softbank | Why My Biggest Mistakes Came From Listening to VCs | Why 100 VCs Turned Us Down | Why European Founders Are Tougher Than US Founders with Johannes Reck, GetYourGuide Jun 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Johannes Reck is the Founder and CEO of GetYourGuide, the $2BN company that started with a holiday to China and nothing to do. For the first two years, GetYourGuide received only 5 bookings. Today the platform is worth $2BN. They have raised from some of the best, including an amazing story with Masa Son and Softbank.

    In Today's Episode We Discuss:

    01:45 – "I Regret Our Series A — Too Much Dilution"

    03:50 – US vs Europe: Why European Founders Are Tougher

    06:10 – "Germany Spends €100B on Pensions, €7B on VC – It's Insane"

    08:40 – Why Europe Fails to Build $10B Startups

    10:25 – 90% of Our Team in Berlin Aren't German. Here's Why.

    12:20 – Recruiting Netflix's Head of Growth Nearly Killed Me

    16:20 – "We Had 5 Bookings in 2 Years. 3 Were My Mum."

    18:00 – "I Asked My Parents to Remortgage Their House for a Pivot"

    21:15 – The Vatican Tour That Changed Everything

    23:30 – Why VCs Rejected GetYourGuide 100+ Times

    28:30 – The $14M Series A That Nearly Killed the Company

    31:00 – "I Hired All the Wrong People – Then Laid Off 30%"

    36:30 – The $450M SoftBank Deal... Then COVID Hit

    40:00 – "We Went to $0 in Revenue in 3 Weeks"

    42:10 – The Sequoia Tree Mindset: Grow Through Fire

    49:30 – What SoftBank's Masa Son Was Really Like in Person

    52:00 – How He Thinks About Secondary, Wealth, and Not Losing His Soul

    55:30 – "My Worst Hires Came from Listening to VCs Too Much"

    58:30 – Angel Investing in Trade Republic and TravelPerk: My Lessons

    01:01:00 – Do You Have to Work 7 Days a Week to Win?


    20Product: How Duolingo Build Product 10x Faster with AI | Duolingo's Biggest Lessons on Paywalls, Push Notifications and In-App Purchases | Why Small Teams are the Future of Product | Why PMs Will Become Extinct with Cem Kansu, CPO @ Duolingo Jun 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Cem Kansu is the Chief Product Officer at Duolingo, where he leads product strategy for over 90 million monthly active learners. Since joining Duolingo, Cem has played a pivotal role in driving record user engagement, revenue growth, and product innovation, including the launch of Duolingo Math and the wildly successful Duolingo Music. Under his leadership, the company has consistently ranked as the #1 education app globally.

    In Today's Episode We Discuss:

    04:12 – Cem's Origin Story: From Google Ads to Saving Duolingo's Business

    06:45 – "Mini CEO" Myth: Why PMs Need to Ditch the Ego

    08:55 – The Truth About Design Speed and Pixel Perfection

    11:30 – The INSANE Story Behind Duolingo's Viral Chess Launch

    14:42 – Why Smaller Teams Are the Future of Product

    17:20 – Duolingo's AI Playbook: How They're Building 10x Faster

    20:05 – Will Engineers Even Exist in 5 Years? Cem Gets Real

    26:10 – Do AI Tools Have ANY Defensibility? Cem Doesn't Hold Back

    29:00 – Why Duolingo Took So Long to Monetize (And What They Learned)

    33:05 – Cem on Killing Ads, Tasteful Monetization, and Investor Doubt

    38:30 – The Secret to Duolingo's Paywall Strategy (And What Not to Do)

    42:05 – Cem's Weirdest Retention Hack? A Single Emoji…

    46:25 – The Crazy Science Behind Push Notifications at Duolingo

    50:00 – In-App Purchases Done Right: GEMS, Freeze, and the Psychology of Value

    53:15 – Why Cem Thinks Daily Retention Is the King Metric

    55:10 – The ONE Product Feature That Changed Duolingo Forever

    57:45 – Will Duolingo Become the Disney of Gen Z?

    01:00:00 – Dating on Duolingo?! Cem Reacts to Harry's Craziest Product Ideas

    01:03:45 – Cem's Biggest Product Mistakes — And What He'd Kill Tomorrow

    01:12:00 – The One Thing Every PM Must Do to Survive the AI Wave

    01:14:00 – Duolingo in 20 Years: Cem's Wildest Vision Yet


    20VC: Scale's $14.8BN Acquisition: Is Scale a Dead Man Walking / What Did Meta Buy | Chime IPO: Are IPOs Hotter Than Ever | Ramp Hits $16BN Diluting Only 1% | Salesforce, Slack and Dropbox Falling Behind: Are Incumbents Losing Ground Jun 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Agenda:

    00:00 – Meta's $14.8B Deal for Scale: The Analysis

    05:40 – Will Scale Lose Their $800M ARR? Will All Customers Leave?

    13:00 – Who is the Winner from All Scale Customers Leaving?

    21:30 – Who Made the Most Money From Scale?

    24:00 – LPs Just Got $14B Back. Are They Reinvesting?

    26:45 – Chime IPO: The Breakdown

    29:20 – Ramp Hits $16B Valuation: Are We Back in 2021?

    31:10 – Ramp vs Brex vs Mercury: Who's the Real Winner?

    34:00 – Gusto Going Public with $900M in ARR???

    36:40 – Dropbox vs Glean: Can the Old Guard Survive the AI Wave?

    38:50 – Is Slack Dead as a Platform? Salesforce Shutdown Slack API?

    41:15 – Will China Dominate AI? The Bets Are In

    43:00 – S&P Prediction, iPhone Assembly in the US, and Rory's Rants

    Please read the offering circular and related risks at invest.modemobile.com. This is a paid advertisement for Mode Mobile's Regulation A+ Offering. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Investing in private company securities is not suitable for all investors because it is highly speculative and involves a high degree of risk. It should only be considered a long-term investment. You must be prepared to withstand a total loss of your investment. Private company securities are also highly illiquid, and there is no guarantee that a market will develop for such securities. DealMaker Securities LLC, a registered broker-dealer, and member of FINRA | SIPC, located at 105 Maxess Road, Suite 124, Melville, NY 11747, is the Intermediary for this offering and is not an affiliate of or connected with the Issuer. Please check our background on FINRA's BrokerCheck.


    20VC: How We Made $800M on Coursera | We Lost Money on Uber and Made Money on Lyft | We Did 3x on Postmates in 18 Months | DPI is King, MOIC is BS | We Dodged Theranos and I Still Lost Millions with Larry Aschebrook @ G Squared Jun 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Larry Aschebrook is the Founder and Managing Partner of G Squared in what is one of the wildest stories of venture capital. Larry started G Squared with nothing, dialling for dollars having personally invested in Twitter and Uber. In his first fund, Larry made sizable bets into SpaceX, Palantir, Alibaba and Twitter. Larry has also had mega losses along the way (discussed in the show) in Getir, 23andme and more. Today, Larry manages over $5BN and has invested in all the best from Wiz to Spotify to Revolut and Anthropic.

    Agenda:

    00:00 – From Broke to Billion-Dollar Bets

    03:40 – The $800M Coursera Windfall

    06:10 – Lyft Made Millions, Uber Lost $50M

    09:05 – "We Fcked Up": The Billion-Dollar Vintage

    11:50 – How a $150M Spotify Bet Made a Billion

    15:10 – The Gut Call That Dodged Theranos

    18:00 – Vampires vs Zombies: The Coming Startup Purge

    20:30 – When Success Almost Killed the Firm

    24:20 – DPI Is King, MOIC Is Bullsht

    27:40 – Why I'd Buy Anthropic at $61BN Today

    30:05 – Losing $70M on 23andMe

    32:10 – The Janitor of Venture Capital

    34:00 – The Getir Deal That Nearly Broke Me

    36:25 – Does Money Actually Make You Happy?

    39:00 – What Cal Ripken Jr. Taught Me About Venture


    20VC: SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink: Elon's Empire After the Firestorm | Are Circle and Coreweave Meme Stocks: IPO Analysis | Anduril Raises $2.6BN & Becomes Founders Fund's 1st and 2nd Largest Check Ever | Cursor Now 20% of SaaS Spend and the SaaS Slowdown Jun 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Agenda:

    00:03 – Circle's IPO: Investors Just Left $BNs on the Table

    00:06 – CoreWeave & Circle: Are We Back to Meme Stock Madness?

    00:11 – Should Stripe and Databricks Finally Go Public?

    00:17 – US Stock Markets: How They DOMINATE the Global Game

    00:21 – 50% of Unicorns Are DOOMED. What Happens Now?

    00:25 – Founders Fund Just Dropped $1B on Anduril. Why?!

    00:29 – What Would You Do If LPs Let You Go Wild?

    00:36 – What Missing Out on Millions for Docusign Taught Rory

    00:44 – Cursor is 20% of SaaS Spend: The Shocking Data Behind the SaaS Slowdown

    00:47 – AI vs. SaaS: The Great Budget War Begins

    00:48 – Can AI Take Budget from the Talent Budget or Will It Remain in Software Budgets?

    00:56 – SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink: Elon's Empire After the Firestorm

    Please read the offering circular and related risks at invest.modemobile.com. This is a paid advertisement for Mode Mobile's Regulation A+ Offering. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Investing in private company securities is not suitable for all investors because it is highly speculative and involves a high degree of risk. It should only be considered a long-term investment. You must be prepared to withstand a total loss of your investment. Private company securities are also highly illiquid, and there is no guarantee that a market will develop for such securities. DealMaker Securities LLC, a registered broker-dealer, and member of FINRA | SIPC, located at 105 Maxess Road, Suite 124, Melville, NY 11747, is the Intermediary for this offering and is not an affiliate of or connected with the Issuer. Please check our background on FINRA's BrokerCheck.


    20VC: Fiverr CEO: 'If You're Not Adapting to AI, F* You. You're Done | Why "Time to Copy" is the Most Important Metric in Startups Today | Why 99% of AI Companies Today Will Die | Why Governments Will Take Control of AI with Micha Kauffman Jun 09, 2025
    Show notes

    Micha Kaufman is the Founder and CEO of Fiverr, the leading online marketplace for freelance services. Fiverr has had an insane ride in the public markets, in 2019 the company went public with a $650M market cap, at their peak that hit over $8BN. Today, facing a wave of AI, the company has a market cap of $1.121BN on an estimated $430M EOY revenues. Prior to co-founding Fiverr, Micha successfully founded and led several startups over the last 30 years.

    In Today's Episode We Discuss:

    00:00 – "Fuck you. It's not my job to make you better." Micha's viral internal email that sparked a company-wide awakening

    05:00 – The real reason Micha thinks Fiverr is vulnerable to AI

    07:00 – "Replace 100% of your job with AI": Micha's challenge to every employee

    11:00 – The brutal truth about entitlement in the modern workforce

    13:00 – Wake the f*** up: Micha on the crisis of work ethic and ambition

    15:00 – "Too many startups, zero value": Why AI is the new dot-com bubble

    17:00 – The time-to-clone has collapsed: Why your startup can be copied in 10 days

    21:00 – Why distribution, not code, is the moat that matters now

    23:00 – The new game of investing: Why backing "missionaries" is all that counts

    25:00 – The seed investment Micha wrote off… that became his biggest win

    38:00 – "Being a CEO today is like captaining a ship in a storm"

    39:00 – Will governments take control of AI? The Manhattan Project analogy

    42:00 – The rise of AI superpowers—and the brutal decline of everyone else

    46:00 – The single-person unicorn: Is it real? Micha says yes

    47:00 – Why Micha's hiring more engineers—not fewer

    48:00 – Marketing is being disrupted faster than engineering. Here's how

    54:00 – What cost Micha wants to cut—but can't

    56:00 – Why Micha would tell his kid: "Don't go to university"

    57:00 – The business Fiverr could have built before OnlyFans—and why they didn't

    59:00 – How Micha decides every year whether he should still be CEO

    01:00:00 – The ultimate metric: When meaning matters more than happiness


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