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    The Trusted Guide Podcast with Mark Slatin

    The Trusted Guide Podcast (formerly The Delighted Customers Podcast) explores what it takes to lead change when you don’t have formal authority.
    Hosted by Mark Slatin, the show examines how trust, credibility, and relationships determine whether ideas move forward—or quietly stall—in complex organizations. Through conversations with experienced leaders, practitioners, and researchers, each episode offers practical insight on influence, alignment, and leading meaningful change without the power to mandate it.

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    #107 Strategy Meets CX: A Conversation with Seth Godin on 'This is Strategy' Oct 24, 2024
    Show notes

    Seth is a legendary thinker and marketer known for challenging conventional wisdom. In this episode, he dives into his latest book, This is Strategy, offering fresh perspectives on how to craft and execute a powerful strategy in today's fast-changing world.

    Beyond just strategy, Seth explores the crucial connection between strategy and customer experience (CX), helping listeners understand why aligning these two elements is key to driving sustainable business growth. Whether you're a business leader, CX professional, or strategist, this episode offers actionable insights you can put into practice immediately.


    Meet Seth!


    Seth Godin is an author, entrepreneur and most of all, A teacher

    Seth is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, and speaker. In addition to launching one of the most popular blogs in the world, he has written 21 best-selling books, including The Dip, Linchpin, Purple Cow, Tribes, and What To Do When It's Your Turn (And It's Always Your Turn). His book, This is Marketing, was an instant bestseller in countries around the world. His latest books are The Song of Significance and The Practice, and creatives everywhere have made it a bestseller.


    Though renowned for his writing and speaking, Seth also founded two companies, Squidoo and Yoyodyne (acquired by Yahoo!).


    By focusing on everything from effective marketing and leadership, to the spread of ideas and changing everything, Seth has been able to motivate and inspire countless people around the world.


    In 2013, Seth was one of just three professionals inducted into the Direct Marketing Hall of Fame. In an astonishing turn of events, in May 2018, he was inducted into the Marketing Hall of Fame as well. He might be the only person in both.


    #106: Avoiding the Metric-Centric Trap Oct 17, 2024
    Show notes


    Raj Sivasubramanian has served as a CX leader in great brands like AirBnB, eBay, Verint, and Bain and now leads the journey management practice at QuestionPro. He's a Professor of Practice at Michigan State University in the CXM Masters of Science Degree program. He's worked with some of the most successful brands and joined us to share insights about how great companies differentiate on customer experience.

    In this episode:

    1. What do we do about the metric trap?


    This question is essential because many organizations fall into the trap of over-focusing on metrics like NPS (Net Promoter Score) and CSAT (Customer Satisfaction) without necessarily improving the customer experience. Raj provides strategies and insights to avoid this trap, which can help organizations focus on actionable insights rather than just numbers.

    1. How does operational data play into customer sentiment data?


    Understanding how to integrate operational data with customer sentiment data is crucial for gaining a holistic view of the customer experience. Raj's explanation helps organizations realize that customer feedback alone isn't enough; it should be supplemented with operational metrics to drive meaningful actions that improve the customer experience.

    1. What approach works best for making organizational change happen from a CX leader's standpoint?


    This question is critical for anyone trying to drive customer-centric changes within their organization. Raj discusses different strategies like looking for quick wins, connecting insights to key corporate initiatives, and the importance of having allies. His advice provides a roadmap for CX leaders to effectively influence and implement changes that can significantly enhance customer experiences.

    Join us for an engaging conversation as Raj shares practical tips and actionable insights.


    #105 In the Shoes of a Cancer Patient: Loretta Muss on Advisory Councils, Burnout, and Personalizing Patient Care Oct 10, 2024
    Show notes

    Customer Experience Management takes on an entirely different context when you or a loved one gets a cancer diagnosis. As you'll hear from my guest on this episode, the healthcare system is broken in many ways. UNC is starting with a better way to listen.

    Loretta Muss, coordinator of the Patient and Family Advisory Council (PFAC) at the North Carolina Basnight Cancer Hospital, recently retired after advocating for patients, families, hospital staff and administration for the past 14 years.

    Muss started in her role with the PFAC in 2009 with the hope of strengthening the relationship between patients, caregivers and their cancer care teams.

    On this episode of The Delighted Customers Podcast, Loretta talks about some of the realities stressing our healthcare system and the impact on patients. She shares the immensely successful PFAC she launched for UNC's Cancer Hospital and we talk about how the model can be used to help businesses inside and outside of healthcare.

    Here are three pivotal questions she answered, which we believe can reshape how we view healthcare:

    1. How can caregivers' inclusion in advisory councils transform patient care?

    Caregivers play a crucial role in the patient journey, often providing the most consistent care. Understanding their perspectives can lead to more holistic and effective healthcare solutions.

    1. What strategies can be employed to prevent burnout among healthcare providers while maintaining high standards of compassionate care?

    Burnout is a critical issue affecting healthcare providers worldwide. Addressing it is essential to ensure that providers can continue delivering the high-quality, compassionate care that patients need.

    1. In what ways can personalized patient interactions improve overall healthcare outcomes?

    Personalization in healthcare can bridge the gap between clinical efficiency and patient satisfaction. Exploring this can lead to better health outcomes and a more humane healthcare experience.

    Curious about Loretta's insightful answers? Tune in to our latest podcast episode and discover how these questions and their answers can drive significant improvements in the healthcare sector.


    #104: Common Barriers to CX Success and How to Overcome Them Oct 03, 2024
    Show notes

    Cyndi Lyon is the VP of Customer Experience and Strategy at Otava. She's a Certified Customer Experience Professional and earned her Master of Science in Customer Experience Management from Michigan State University. In this episode, she broke down some of the key barriers that get in the way of building a successful customer experience management practice and offered some actionable ways to overcome them.

    In this episode Cyndi answered these questions and more:

    • Do You Have a Clear Vision and Plan for Your Organization? Cyndi underscores the importance of having a clear roadmap for your organization's future. It's not just about the big picture—breaking it down into manageable, actionable steps that employees and stakeholders can understand and support is crucial for long-term success.
    • Are You Iterating and Celebrating Small Wins? Cyndi believes that even the best plans will fall short without iteration. Starting small and making adjustments along the way allows for steady progress. By breaking long-term strategies into smaller, achievable milestones, you not only keep teams engaged but also create momentum by celebrating each victory.
    • Is Your Approach Employee- and Data-Centric? Cyndi highlights the power of linking CX metrics to business data and effectively communicating these insights to stakeholders. She emphasizes the importance of understanding who owns the data and engaging champions within the organization to propel the CX strategy forward.


    Meet Cyndi!


    CYNDI LYON, CCXP

    With nearly 30 years of industry experience, Cyndi Lyon is a trailblazer in the realm of customer

    experience (CX). As the Vice President of Customer Experience Strategy at OTAVA, she is

    leading a transformative shift towards a customer-centric model, ensuring that the customer is

    always at the heart of every strategy through relentless focus on continuous improvement and

    operational excellence.

    Cyndi's dedication to CX is unparalleled. Recently, she earned her Master's in Customer

    Experience Management from Michigan State University, marking her as a pioneer in this

    evolving field. Her expertise spans creating exceptional customer experiences, operationalizing

    CX strategies, drive continuous improvement and fostering a customer-centric culture that

    permeates every aspect of business operations. For Cyndi, the cornerstone of every successful

    business is a deep understanding and genuine appreciation of the customer.

    Cyndi's career spans product management, technology operations, professional services,

    marketing, and more. This breadth of experience fuels her passion for delivering top-notch

    customer experiences. Her drive for enriching product and service delivery is realized through

    innovation, collaboration, process improvement, and organizational development.

    Since joining OTAVA in 2018, Cyndi has built a legacy of success, leading the company's

    product, marketing, and business strategy, and heading the operations team to streamline

    processes and systems. Her ability to build and inspire teams, coupled with her strategic

    foresight, has been instrumental in OTAVA's growth and customer satisfaction.

    Outside of her professional life, Cyndi is a proud wife and mother of two teenage daughters. She

    holds the prestigious CCXP certification and enjoys regularly participating in half marathons and

    spending quality time with her family in Ann Arbor, Michigan.


    #103: Using Data Visualization to Get Executive Buy-In Sep 26, 2024
    Show notes

    One of the major problems that data visualization solves is the need for quick and clear communication of complex insights, particularly to time-constrained executives.


    It's about storytelling with data…but how?


    With her extensive expertise in data analytics and digital transformation, Katie Manty, a professor at Michigan State University's Customer Experience Management Master's program and a leader at Omnicom Health Group, offers unparalleled insights into this crucial aspect of business strategy.


    In this episode of "Delighted Customers Podcast," Katie shares compelling strategies and best practices for utilizing data visualization to enhance customer experience and drive executive buy-in.


    Key Takeaways:


    1. Customer Experience Improvements:

    - Pain Points in Banking: Katie highlighted how customers in banking and investment sectors often struggle with mobile check deposits and managing dormant 401(k) accounts. The complexity and inaccessibility of instructions lead to dissatisfaction. She shares best practices on how to solve for that.


    2. Data Storytelling:

    - Katie's personal advice: Focusing on data storytelling and understanding audience incentives can significantly improve your professional influence. She walks through several illustrations of how to effectively tell stories with data.


    3. Effective Data Visualization:

    - Importance for Executives: Visualizing data is essential for conveying insights quickly and clearly to senior leadership, facilitating swift decision-making. Katie shares common missteps and how to overcome them.


    Meet Katie:


    Katie has a passion for building highly-prized customer experiences. Throughout her marketing technology enablement career, she gathers multiple perspectives, analyzes data sets, forges a business vision and puts the initial concept into production using a test and learn mindset for continuous improvement of the product or process. Katie has been with Omnicom Health Group for three years as a leader in digital transformation and data analytics capabilities in the health care sector primarily supporting biotech and pharmaceutical marketing teams.


    Katie services clients with Omnichannel marketing solutions based on a framework and capabilities that she derived from years of marketing and data strategy experience. She is a Thought Leader enabling colleagues to upskill and speak marketing acumen underscored by data, data visualization and technology integration concepts. She shares a regular Data Coffee Talk with colleagues on all topics data in marketing including how AI is changing the advertising business.


    She began her career at Ernst & Young leading application development, business analysis, roadmap visioning and emerging technology teams. Katie earned an MS degree from MIT in the Management of Technology. Her undergraduate degree is from Smith College with a BA in Computer Science and Economics double major.


    Katie is an active alum with both of her alma maters. She spends her free time soaking up the sun as an avid beachgoer, consuming fiction and shuttling her teenage daughter to activities.


    Additionally, Katie is a Faculty Instructor for MSU's MS in CXM degree. She teaches Data Analysis, Data Integration and Data Visualization as part of the program.


    #102: Compassionomics: The Revolutionary Scientific Evidence That Caring Makes a Difference Sep 19, 2024
    Show notes

    A 34-year-old man fighting for his life in the intensive care unit is on an artificial respirator for over a month. Could it be that his chance of getting off the respirator is not how much his nurses know, but rather how much they care?

    A 75-year-old woman is heroically saved by a major trauma center, only to be discharged and fatally struck by a car while walking home from the hospital. Could a lack of compassion from the hospital staff have been a factor in her death?

    Compelling new research shows that health care is in the midst of a compassion crisis. But the pivotal question is this: Does compassion really matter?

    In Compassionomics: The Revolutionary Scientific Evidence That Caring Makes a Difference, physician scientists Stephen Trzeciak and Anthony Mazzarelli uncover the eye-opening data that compassion could be a wonder drug for the 21st century.

    This episode is packed with practical insights and ROI evidence for customer experience investment.

    Join me and my guest, Dr. Stephen Trzeciak, author, Ted Talk speaker, and, oh yeah, Chief of Medicine at Cooper University Healthcare.

    In this episode:

    • Evidence-Based Compassion: Compassion in healthcare isn't just a moral imperative; it has measurable, impactful benefits. Studies show that even a 40-second compassionate intervention can significantly reduce patient anxiety.
    • ROI of Compassion: Compassionate care doesn't just improve patient trust and outcomes; it also positively affects hospital revenue, reduces staff turnover, and enhances overall service quality. Compassionate hospitals achieve better patient loyalty and team cohesion.
    • Combatting Burnout: Dr. Trzeciak highlights the inverse correlation between compassion and burnout. Genuine, compassionate relationships are key to fostering resilience and well-being among healthcare providers, ultimately improving team retention and reducing costs related to high turnover.


    Meet Dr. T

    Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH is a physician scientist, the Edward D. Viner Endowed

    Chief of Medicine at Cooper University Health Care, and Professor and Chair of

    Medicine at Cooper Medical School of Rowan University in Camden, New Jersey. Dr.

    Trzeciak is a practicing intensivist (specialist in intensive care medicine), and a clinical

    researcher with more than 100 publications in the scientific literature. His scientific

    program has been supported by research grants from the National Institutes of Health

    and the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, with Dr. Trzeciak serving as

    Principal Investigator. Dr. Trzeciak is the co-author of two books, Compassionomics:

    The Revolutionary Scientific Evidence that Caring Makes a Difference (2019), and

    Wonder Drug: 7 Scientifically Proven Ways That Serving Others Is the Best Medicine

    for Yourself (2022). Broadly, Dr. Trzeciak's mission is to raise compassion globally,

    through science.


    #101: CX-PRO - Beyond the Basics: Book Review with the Editor Sep 09, 2024
    Show notes

    Karl Sharicz is back with his follow-up to CX-PRO, featuring advanced insights from a global lineup of 16 CX thought leaders. (Yes, I'm thrilled to be one of them!) This book highlights the power of collaboration in the CX community, bringing together practitioners, consultants, and educators. It emphasizes human-centered design, a commitment to quality, and the lasting impact of genuine human connections. The book celebrates employee-driven insights as key drivers of innovation and dives into the diverse career paths that fuel the CX ecosystem.

    In this episode:

    • Why this book offers CX leaders a fresh perspective on customer experience management
    • How the contributing authors were selected
    • A closer look at standout chapters with exclusive excerpts
    • A teaser on my chapter about change leadership

    This book is an essential resource for CX leaders and anyone passionate about advancing their understanding of customer experience management.


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    Show Notes:

    Meet Karl

    Karl brings over thirty years of skills and experiences gained in high-tech research and manufacturing B2B environments along with proven business acumen. Throughout his career, he has served in a broad range of roles within marketing, sales, training, and training management—developing internal and external customer relationship skills and building a decided customer-centric focus along the way. As the Founder and CEO of HorizonCX, Karl offers professional services to organizations in two general categories.

    • Small to medium-sized businesses aiming to begin the Customer Experience journey
    • Large enterprises on the Customer Experience journey aiming to bring it to the next higher level

    ​

    In his former corporate role within Tyco SimplexGrinnell, a leading fire and life-safety provider doing business throughout North America, Karl served as Customer Experience Lead where and his team focused on driving those elements of the customer relationship and experience that increased customer satisfaction, reduced customer churn, and increased customer lifetime value.

    ​

    Karl is steeped in the Customer Experience Management discipline, including developing customer-centric cultures; determining the voice of the customer and deriving insights and understanding; fostering organizational adoption and accountability; creating customer experience strategies, designing approaches that will achieve customer experience excellence, and setting up metrics and measurement systems that help drive organizational return on investment.


    Books: CX-PRO - Beyond the Basics: Advanced Insights for Customer Experience Professionals Paperback – September 10, 2024

    by Karl Sharicz (Editor)

    https://www.amazon.com/CX-PRO-Advanced-Insights-Experience-Professionals/dp/B0DD9L8BKC


    #100: Watermark's CX ROI Study: Proving Its Value to Executives and Skeptics Sep 05, 2024
    Show notes

    Jon Picoult, bestselling author and CX thought leader was my first guest in 2022 when The Delighted Customers Podcast launched. He was gracious enough to come back for episode 100 to talk about his His landmark study on the ROI of customer experience is one of the most widely cited pieces of research in the industry.

    Jon sheds light on the groundbreaking CX ROI study he initiated, which highlights the tangible and economic benefits of a great customer experience. We'll explore the challenges CX leaders face, particularly in getting executive buy-in, and how Jon's research demonstrates the outperformance of top-rated CX companies versus their lagging counterparts, even amid the pandemic's impact.

    If you're a CX practitioner, you should have this study in your toolkit and understand the trends over the 16 years of research. Spoiler alert - CX leaders outperformed laggards by 5.4x over 16 years!

    In this episode:

    • What's the purpose and methodology of the CX ROI study?
    • What makes it different from other studies?
    • How can CX leaders use it to make the business case for CX?
    • What are the DO's and DON'T of applying the findings?
    • How should business leaders approach the use of AI when it comes to CX strategies


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    Show Notes:

    Meet Jon

    Jon's insights have been featured by dozens of media outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, Fortune and Forbes. His landmark study on the ROI of customer experience is one of the most widely cited pieces of research in the industry, referenced by firms such as McKinsey, Deloitte, Accenture, Forrester, SAP, and Oracle.

    Jon is also the author of the Amazon bestseller, "From Impressed to Obsessed: 12 Principles for Turning Customers and Employees into Lifelong Fans," which was featured in The Wall Street Journal as a top reading pick, and has also earned praise from business luminaries such as Horst Schulze (co-founder of Ritz-Carlton Hotels), Hubert Joly (former CEO of Best Buy), and Marshall Goldsmith (world-renowned executive coach).

    Prior to establishing Watermark, Jon held senior executive roles at Fortune 100 firms – leading service, operations, distribution, technology, sales and marketing. Early in his career, at the age of 29, Jon earned the distinction of becoming the youngest executive officer in the over 150-year history of a leading global financial services company.

    Jon received his bachelor's degree in cognitive science from Princeton University and his M.B.A. in general management from Duke University.

    • Watermark's Customer Experience ROI Study: www.watermarkconsult.net/cx-roi
    • Watermark's Website: www.watermarkconsult.net
    • Jon Picoult's Speaker Website: www.jonpicoult.com


    Books: https://www.amazon.com/Impressed-Obsessed-Principles-Customers-Employees/dp/126425878X


    #99: From Helping My Deaf Parents to Revolutionizing Customer Experience with AI Aug 29, 2024
    Show notes

    In the episode, Guy Shalom, the CEO of Glassix, shared the personal story behind the company's inception. Glassix began as a solution to a personal challenge: both of his parents have the same disability, which made effective communication challenging.

    This experience inspired Guy to develop a solution that could improve communication not only for his parents but also for customers facing similar difficulties. Over time, this idea expanded and evolved, ultimately becoming Glassix—a company dedicated to improving the customer experience through advanced digital channels and messaging platforms. This journey from a personal challenge to a broader mission encapsulates the company's commitment to making customer interactions more seamless and accessible.

    Guy was joined by his Head of Product, Yoad Rashti and his CTO, Boaz Katan as I stretched my podcasting limits with three guests at one time!

    🔹 AI-Driven Efficiency and Personalization: Glassix is revolutionizing how businesses interact with customers through AI-driven features like conversation summaries, chatbot AI answers, and mood interpretation. These advancements allow for real-time personalized responses, significantly improving both customer satisfaction and agent efficiency.

    🔹 Cross-Channel Communication: With integration capabilities across multiple platforms like WhatsApp, web chat, Facebook, and Apple, Glassix provides a seamless communication experience. This multi-channel approach ensures that customers can reach out through their preferred platform, making interactions smoother and more effective.

    🔹 Customization and Security: Glassix's platform is not just powerful but also customizable and secure. Offering flexibility for various industries and compliance with standards like PCI DSS, the platform ensures that user data is protected while allowing teams to tailor solutions to their specific needs.

    Catch the full episode for an in-depth discussion on how AI is shaping the future of customer experience and how you can leverage these innovations to boost your business! 🎙️


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    Show Notes

    • Guy Shalom

    CEO & Co-founder, Glassix

    Guy Shalom is the CEO and Co-founder of Glassix, a leading software company revolutionizing

    customer service with its omnichannel interactive communication platform. Under Guy's

    visionary leadership, Glassix has become a pivotal player in the SaaS industry, providing

    leading-edge digital solutions tailored to the needs of modern contact centers.


    • Yoad Rashty

    CTO& Co-founder, Glassix

    Yoad Rashty is the Chief Technology Officer at Glassix, where his expertise in driving

    • technological innovation and his deep understanding of customer experience technologies empower leading companies to deliver exceptional customer experiences. With a robust background in software engineering and a keen focus on integrating leading-edge artificial intelligence technologies, Yoad leads his teams in developing advanced, scalable, and a secure platform that enhances customer interactions for businesses globally.


    • Boaz Katan

    Head of Product at Glassix

    Boaz Katan leads the development of an advanced omnichannel messaging platform designed to enhance customer experiences. With over 10 years of experience as a product designer in both startups and large corporations like NICE and NetApp, Boaz has a proven track record of designing complex B2B systems.


    Contact Info:


    For guest contact information, I recommend checking out the multiple platforms mentioned in the episode. You can reach out to the business through their:


    - Website

    - Web chat

    - Facebook page

    - WhatsApp account

    - Apple account


    If you prefer more direct contact information, you might want to visit the Glassix website or their social media pages for further details.

    www.glassix.com


    #98: Trust in CX: Lessons from the Executive Assistant to Ronald Reagan Aug 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Trust in CX: Lessons from the Executive Assistant to Ronald Reagan


    In the latest episode of the Delighted Customers podcast, Peggy Grande shares her fascinating journey from a regular middle-class family to becoming the executive assistant to President Ronald Reagan. From her unlikely selection to be the executive assistant for Ronald Reagan to her touching farewell to the 40th President of the United States, her stories provide invaluable lessons in building trust, particularly through the lens of the trust equation.

    Here are some key takeaways:

    Credibility: Peggy's story emphasizes the importance of intuitive confidence and competence. She recalls, "I was young, yet I had to present myself as a voice of authority, even when I wasn't always completely confident in myself." This highlights that beyond technical skills, credibility is built by speaking confidently and being willing to take on tasks and make decisions quickly.

    Reliability: Peggy demonstrated the immense value of dependability by always being present and prepared. She mentions, "I made it a habit to arrive at the office every day about a half hour before the office officially opened." Showing up consistently and anticipating needs is a cornerstone of reliability.

    Intimacy: Building a safe space for confidential discussions and knowing when to offer empathy is essential. Peggy recounts a touching instance during Reagan's Alzheimer's battle, noting how she had to step in discreetly to help him finish a familiar story. This exemplifies psychological safety and the delicate balance of being supportive without undermining.

    Self-Orientation: Selflessness in serving another's best interests can build profound trust. Peggy showcases this by emphasizing personalization in her tasks, such as learning Reagan's preferences and structuring his day accordingly. Her focus on others' needs over her own effectively strengthened her relationships and trustworthiness.


    Show Notes:

    Meet Peggy

    Peggy Grande was Executive Assistant to President Ronald Reaganfrom 1989 – 1999, after he left the White House. She is author of the book, "The President Will See You Now: My Stories and Lessonsfrom Ronald Reagan's Final Years." She served as a Presidential appointee during the Trump Administration and considers it thehonor of a lifetime to have worked for two Presidents of the United States in both support and strategic roles.

    Peggy is an international keynote speaker, TV and radio commentator, and widely published opinion writer in the US, UK,

    Australia, and the Middle East. She was Chair of World for Brexit and was national spokesperson for a California ballot initiative. She

    serves on the Board of Pepperdine University's School of Public Policy and the Board of the Center for American Ideas.

    Peggy is a graduate of Pepperdine University, mother of four grown children, and has two granddaughters.


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