The Trial

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High School Stabbing - Guilty Aug 08, 2025

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the verdict from Sheffield Crown Court - guilty.

The 15-year-old defendant was convicted following 14 hours 34 minutes of deliberation by a majority of 11 to one. The episode also features an exclusive interview with Harvey’s mother Caroline.

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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Editor: Chelsea Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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High School Stabbing - Over to the Jury Aug 05, 2025

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The jury in the trial of the killer of Harvey Willgoose are now considering their verdict.

They’ve heard all of the evidence and the decision on whether the 15 year old boy on trial is guilty of murder or manslaughter now rests with them. In this episode Caroline and Jack have the final instructions the judge gave them before she told them to start their deliberations.

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Editor: Chelsea Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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High School Stabbing - ‘There was a name’ Aug 01, 2025

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing arguments from the defence and prosecution before the jury retire to consider their verdicts.

Prosecutor Richard Thyne KC said the defendant did not suffer from a loss of self-control when he stabbed Harvey Willgoose, but displayed purposeful and controlled aggression as an act of retribution.

Gul Nawaz Hussain KC, for the defence, said the evidence clearly showed the defendant was in intense fear in the weeks leading up to the attack - and Harvey was simply the final straw that broke him.

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Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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High School Stabbing - ‘You got worked up in rage’ Jul 29, 2025

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the cross-examination of the boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose.

He is questioned about the witness accounts of teachers and pupils who saw him acting like he had a knife before the stabbing and the prosecution put its case to him - that he did not lose control when he killed Harvey, but got worked up into a rage.

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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

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Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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High School Stabbing - Anatomy of a Stabbing Jul 25, 2025

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the moment the boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose describes the fatal stabbing.

He claims he only pulled out a knife because he was scared he would get stabbed himself and told a jury he now has no memory of the moment he dealt the deadly blow.

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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Editor: Chelsea Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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High School Stabbing - ‘I’ve got a bad feeling about today’ Jul 22, 2025

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In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the latest evidence of the boy accused of murdering 15-year-old old Harvey Willgoose, as he tells the court he bought the “scary-looking” knife used in the attack because he was worried about being jumped.

He also claimed that Harvey had threatened to stab him on the morning of the killing and described how he had not wanted to back down in a recent social media argument because he was afraid of being called a coward.

The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes.

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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Editor: Chelsea Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.

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High School Stabbing - ‘I’m upset all the time’ Jul 18, 2025

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In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the side of the story the teenage boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose told the jury during the trial.

He described how he was the victim of bullying since as far back as primary school, which led him to develop anger issues he struggled to control.

The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes.

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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Editor: Chelsea Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.

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High School Stabbing - ‘It was me or him’ Jul 15, 2025

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In this episode Caroline and Jack have what the teenage boy on trial said in the moments after he stabbed Harvey Willgoose.

He told police he had the knife for his own protection because he thought he was going to get jumped. He said he was protecting himself.

The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes.

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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Editor: Chelsea Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Producer: Sam Morris

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

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The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.

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Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - The Verdict Jul 14, 2025

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In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria.

Last year a jury found the pair guilty of concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. However, unable to reach a verdict on the charge of manslaughter, the jury was discharged. Constance Marten and Mark Gordon have faced a retrial on this charge, and today, we finally have the verdict.

Caroline and Jack also sit down with Detective Superintendent Lewis Basford, who helped lead the hunt for Constance Martin and Mark Gordon, in an exclusive interview.

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Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy

Producer: Sam Morris

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

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The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.

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Trailer: Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - The Verdict Jul 14, 2025

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In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria.

Listen to the full episode, 'Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - The Verdict’, wherever you get your podcasts.

This week Caroline and Jack will also be bringing you a three part series exclusively to Trial+. They will be delving into the background of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon; details we couldn't bring you until now.

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The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.

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