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    The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show

    Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.

    Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.

    Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.

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    175. A Look Back & Ahead: 2022 CRE Market Surprises, What’s to Come in 2023 Dec 30, 2022
    Show notes

    In the final episode of 2022, the team pauses to review the year, reflecting on pleasant and unpleasant surprises and the CRE stories that topped the headlines. In this week's episode, we share a look back at 2022 and also look ahead to 2023, sharing some of our commercial real estate and economic market predictions for next year based on what we've learned from the stories. Stick around to learn what a TWPT is. Wishing a happy new year to all our listeners! Tune in now. Episode Notes: Economic overview (0:23) Look back at 2022: pleasant surprises (8:43) Unpleasant surprises (14:22) Top content of 2022 (20:43) Positive trading alerts: retail (24:03) Negative trading alerts: tenants vacating, subleases, tech news(27:41) 2023 predictions (36:05) Shoutouts (46:18) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    174. Weak Retail Sales & More Office CMBS Turmoil, Soft Housing Market, Holiday Wishlist Dec 23, 2022
    Show notes

    In this week's episode, we discuss weak holiday sales, retail earnings, and the soft housing market. In CRE, there is a lot to cover in the office and retail sectors, with positive, negative, and neutral stories that paint a picture of what is to come in 2023. The team also shares their holiday wish lists. Happy holidays to all our listeners! Episode Notes: • Economic data: consumer sentiment, recession, earnings (0:23) • Housing market headwinds(6:25) • Commercial mortgage universe increases(14:41) • Office losses in major markets (16:45) • Positive office stories (18:50) • Why the recent increase in cap rate reporting? (22:10) • Office crabgrass (25:27) • Retail news(33:31) • Mall credit stories (37:18) • Programming and shoutouts (39:23) • Holiday Wishlist (41:46) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    173. All Eyes on Office, Fed Dot Plot, Violent Market Reaction Dec 16, 2022
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    This week, the big investor reaction was to the Fed’s so-called “dot plot” that sees a higher Fed Funds target range. In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we dive into the welcomed CPI print, the Fed decision, retail sales, housing, and what it all means for CRE. We also have a lot to discuss in the office market, with a focus on loan refinancings, tenant moves, space consolidations, and more. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Economic data: CPI, Fed decision(0:23) • Labor, jobs, housing (4:33) • Good week for borrowers(6:55) • Joann Fabrics hold on dividend payments(10:12) • Office conversion story (12:54) • Positive office news (14:35) • Office mixed greens(22:10) • Office crabgrass (25:40) • Retail green shoots (29:02) • Amazon movie theaters (30:56) • Shoutouts (31:27) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    172. Gloomy CRE Mood: Is Office the New Mall? Industrial Cracks, But Plenty of Hotel Green Shoots Dec 09, 2022
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    In this week’s episode, we analyze what appears to be a commercial real estate market turning negative. Rob Jordan, Head of CMBS, joins the team as we discuss market sentiment, borrower concerns, and predictions for the economy and Q4 bank earnings. In property-type news, we saw a lot of negative news for the office market – opening the door to the question: are offices the new malls? We also see cracks in the industrial market, but the positive signs in recent hotel stories help reel in the negativity. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Economic update (0:23) • Sentiment for 2023 (7:41) • Multifamily borrower concerns (11:08) • Barry Sternlicht NYU conference comments (13:42) • Q4 bank earnings predictions (19:07) • Retail news to know(20:07) • Green shoots (24:26) • Office conversions (26:09) • Hotel resilience (33:20) • Industrial cracks (36:03) • Shoutouts (38:37) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    171. Loan Modifications, the Trepp Unicorn Story, Multifamily Delinquencies Dec 02, 2022
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    In this week’s episode, we dive into some major stories touching the CRE and CMBS markets including office crabgrass, interesting loan modifications, hotel loan extensions, retail challenges, and industrial news. In a new segment, we introduce the Trepp unicorn, diving into a story about rare excess recovery. We also share our latest delinquency data and life insurance commercial mortgage returns. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Market update: Fed, jobs, supply chain, housing (0:23) • Delinquency report (9:17) • Life insurance commercial returns (15:47) • Office crabgrass (18:16) • Office green shoots (19:54) • Airbnb’s listing service (24:20) • Hotel stories (27:26) • Retail CRE news (31:10) • Industrial acquisition (36:05) • Trepp unicorn: rare excess recovery (38:14) • Shoutouts (41:04) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    170. Extensions, Missed Payments, Dropping Values: Smorgasbord of CRE News Nov 22, 2022
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    This week, earnings season wound down with more retailers showing better-than-expected results and a shortened trading week due to the holiday meaning more focus on what the Fed is signaling for December. In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we dive into several big stories across the major property types: borrowers extending, missing balloon payments, and property valuations declining. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Economic data (0:23) • Consumer resilience? (6:53) • Retailer earnings and store closures (8:54) • Layoffs (13:09) • NYC ground lease stories (14:56) • Kroger Albertson’s exposure (20:17) • Nordstrom vacating Minneapolis space (22:12) • Retail: missed balloon dates, values decline, loan extensions (23:30) • Multifamily (32:26) • Hotel positive news (38:15) • Student housing story(43:09) • Office news to watch(46:01) • Shoutouts (47:11)


    169. Finding Green Shoots (As People Seek Taylor Swift Tix); Floating Rate CRE CLOs; Retail Earnings Nov 17, 2022
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    This week, it was easier to find green shoots than Taylor Swift tickets, but CRE still can’t “shake off” higher rates. In this week’s episode, Andrew Jacobs, Head of Structured Finance, joins the team as we discuss retail earnings, the CRE CLO market, housing data, loan payoffs, and the impact on leveraged loans in a higher-rate environment. We also dive into a few major office, retail, and hotel stories to note this week. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Economic data (0:26) • Corporate CLO market in a higher rate world (7:45) • Housing market update (10:46) • Retail earnings (12:33) • Ballooning inventory (17:10) • Loan payoffs (18:43) • CRE CLOs (20:46) • Digging through the data: lease expirations (26:27) • Office vacancies (27:27) • US banks considering office loan sales (31:20) • Office green shoots (33:13) • Manhattan office Trading Alert (34:42) • Retail stories (36:47) • Hotel news to watch (38:34) • Shoutouts (42:25) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    168. Making Sense of Midterms and the CRE Regulatory Landscape with the Mortgage Bankers Association Nov 16, 2022
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    In a special guest episode, Michael Flood, SVP of Commercial & Multifamily, and Borden Hoskins, AVP of Legislative & Political Affairs from the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA) join the team to provide an update on the midterm elections and the CRE regulatory landscape. We dive into what the election results mean for CRE, how various sectors will be affected, and what regulators will focus their initiatives on in 2023. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Midterm elections and legislative overview (0:47) • Oversight issue: CFPB (7:47) • What could happen? The lame ducks (9:05) • Where does lending come from if FHA is under threat? (13:35) • GSEs and lending caps (14:20) • Liquidity and available capital (20:08) • Tenants (26:43) • What's coming for different forms of finance? (28:36) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    167. Tech Wreck & Housing Cracks, REIT Earnings Rundown, Student Housing Distress Nov 11, 2022
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    In this week’s episode, we dive into the latest news surrounding the CPI print, cracks in the housing market, and the ‘Tech Wreck’ that is dragging the markets down. In CRE, Research Director, Stephen Buschbom joins to talk through REIT earnings and student housing loan distress. We also provide recent negative multifamily and office stories. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Economic news(0:26) • CPI numbers (11:02) • Impact of election on CRE (15:08) • Tech wreck (16:32) • REIT earnings: overview(19:20) • Office REITs (21:11) • Office news (27:43) • Crabgrass (32:23) • Multifamily price reset (39:30) • Student housing loan distress (42:44) • Shoutouts (46:41) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


    166. Will Floating-Rate Loans Sink Upon Maturity?, Delinquencies Rise, No Leaks in the Boat... Yet Nov 04, 2022
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    This week, investors expected the interest rate increase, but the commentary was more hawkish than predicted. In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we dive into the latest economic and CMBS data, highlighting the recent rise in delinquencies. In digging through the data, we found that there is about $300M worth of active "floating-rate" loans, so what is the story here? Then, we share green shoots and crabgrass for multifamily, office, and hotels. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - CMBS delinquency report (10:10) - CMBS spreads (16:55) - Digging through the data (21:32) - Multifamily sale (28:03) - Multifamily headlines (33:43) - Student housing acquisition (35:57) - Hotel story (37:35) - Tech impact on office space (39:01) - Office news (40:55) - Shoutouts (45:57) Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: Twitter: www.twitter.com/TreppWire LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp-llc Facebook: www.facebook.com/TreppLLC


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