The Symbolic World

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292 - Jordan Hall - Artificial Intelligence in Biblical Terms Jun 15, 2023

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I catch up with Jordan Hall in light of recent developments about artificial intelligence, how people are responding to it and conceptualizing it, Ai and ChatGPT in Biblical terms, understanding the weight and ramifications of terms like "god", agency, angels and demons, wisdom, virtue, and technical knowledge and application.
Jordan's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ
His writings: https://medium.com/deep-code
Read Jordan's bio here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordangreenhall
YouTube version: https://youtu.be/3Fpy42cdoB0
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291 - Heather Pollington - The Art Behind 'Snow White and the Widow Queen' Jun 06, 2023

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I had an interview with the wonderful artist, Heather Pollington. Together we created a book called 'Snow White and the Widow Queen' that is currently being crowdfunding through Kickstarter.
Here we take you through our creative process, the inspiration behind the illustrations, and our grand vision for this and upcoming fairy tale projects.
YouTube version: https://youtu.be/DFtACMCLMwA
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I believe what we're offering here is an important course correction in modern storytelling. Simultaneously rooted in classic tropes but also enjoying the best techniques that modern and postmodern storytelling has to offer, 'Snow White and the Widow Queen' begins an extended journey into a fairy tale world of cross-overs and repeating themes.
We're telling the story in a different way: celebrating — not subverting — approaching classic stories not with cynicism or political moralizing, but with awe, love, and attention to the pattern.
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This video was released to my email list as a sneak peek last week.
Support the crowdfunding campaign: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/symbolicworldpress/snow-white-and-the-widow-queen
Heather's website: https://www.heatherpollington.com/
Our previous discussion about her redesign of The Symbolic World logo: https://youtu.be/tzpvLekXy6U
The music was done by the one and only Dirt Poor Robins: @dirtpoorrobins
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Snow White intro
00:01:03 - Introduction
00:05:30 - What brought Heather to this project
00:07:51 - Iconography and artistic language
00:12:01 - The language Jonathan uses
00:14:38 - The world of fairy tale illustration
00:16:12 - The golden age
00:18:29 - Previous iterations of Snow White
00:21:40 - Heather's research
00:22:26 - The cover of the book
00:23:47 - A Christian dream world
00:29:56 - Dormition
00:33:19 - Mirror mirror and social media
00:38:11 - The prince and the castle
00:40:53 - Framing
00:42:22 - The cycle
00:44:46 - The dwarves' house
00:45:31 - The Witch and the Apple
00:46:51 - The Kickstarter
00:48:35 - What's ahead
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290 - John Vervaeke - How to See the End of the World Jun 02, 2023

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A discussion between me and John Vervaeke at The Quest for a Spiritual Home conference in Chino, California in May 2023. A big part of our discussion was about eschatological imagery, talking about death and sacrifice, the past, and the future, inventio, and resurrection. -Original YouTube video: https://youtu.be/s5Y73Vig_ec -My talk at the same event: https://youtu.be/jPgV2yNEkcM -Event info: https://thesymbolicworld.com/news/estuary-chino-2023-event-with-jonathan-pageau-john-vervaeke-and-paul-vanderklay ------------ 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

289 - My Most Anti-Symbolic Talk - The Quest For A Spiritual Home Conference May 30, 2023

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My talk at The Quest for a Spiritual Home conference in Chino, California in May 2023 with Paul VanderKlay, John Vervaeke, and John Van Donk. Title: The Importance of Disappointment This was the second talk after Paul VanderKlay. Event info: https://thesymbolicworld.com/news/estuary-chino-2023-event-with-jonathan-pageau-john-vervaeke-and-paul-vanderklay -------------- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

288 - AI, Moloch and the Genie's Lamp May 24, 2023

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In this video, previously released as a patron-only video, I talk about artificial intelligence (AI) and how it relates to both the deity Moloch and the genie's lamp. Original video: https://youtu.be/ssGKniyIUGk ---------------------- Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Coming up next... 00:00:28 - Intro music 00:00:53 - Introduction 00:01:35 - Can't stop, won't stop 00:05:12 - A desire to die 00:07:01 - Working to its own birth 00:09:21 - The genie's lamp 00:14:01 - Identification ---------------------- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

287 - Richard Rohlin - Universal History: The Symbolism Of Nationalism May 16, 2023

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In one of our most important Universal History episodes yet, Richard Rohlin takes us through the origin of nationalism, what nations are, what they need to exist, and where they come from. How do these narratives about identity fit into what we have been calling Universal History? And how can we properly participate in the world around us? -AMBORIA KICKSTARTER: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/strangeowlgames/amboria-roleplaying-in-the-world-under-starlight -Support the Patreon for Richard Rohlin's project: https://www.patreon.com/strangeowlgames ------------------------- -Original video: https://youtu.be/XlG3QVlFpWc 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

286 - Music and Pattern (Royal Northern College of Music Q&A) May 11, 2023

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Many of you might have seen this Q&A on YouTube already. It's been on YouTube for a whole 6 months and we have made many clips from it, but since it's such a good discussion, I thought it would be a shame not to have it on the podcast too. Thank you to the Royal Northern College of Music for hosting the discussion. YouTube video: https://youtu.be/OutbtwqxZn0 --------------------------------- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

285 - Heather Pollington - From Hollywood To The Symbolic World May 05, 2023

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This podcast might be more suitable to watch in video form since the topic of discussion is design: https://youtu.be/tzpvLekXy6U Heather Pollington is a UK-based Lead Graphic and Surface Designer working in the Film and Television Industry. She has been involved with many popular films like Hellboy 2, Skyfall, Maleficent 2, Marvel's Eternals, and more. She designed the new Symbolic World logo and will be working with me to publish a series of fairy tale books, starting with Snow White. In this discussion, Heather takes us through the creative process of her work in various film projects and finally, we discuss the unique design of our new Symbolic World logo. Heather's website: https://www.heatherpollington.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heather.pollington/ --- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

284 - John Vervaeke and Jacob Howland - The Symposium Apr 26, 2023

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I sit down with John Vervaeke and Jacob Howland to discuss The Symposium, one of the great dialogues of Plato. Professor Jacob Howland is Director of University of Austin, Texas' Intellectual Foundations program. Previously, Howland served as McFarlin Professor of Philosophy at the University of Tulsa and Senior Fellow at the Tikvah Fund. He is the author of five books and one edited book, including two on Plato’s Republic as well as studies of Kierkegaard and the Talmud. Howland’s articles have appeared in The New Criterion, City Journal, and The Nation, among others. Original video: https://youtu.be/T1nxiLARYAk John Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke Jacob Howland: https://www.jacobhowland.com/ - Jacob's book, Plato and the Talmud: https://www.amazon.com/Plato-Talmud-Jacob-Howland/dp/1107612691 - John Vervaeke's YouTube series, After Socrates: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuj6q5NP_fXjBzUT1p_qYSCC - Event in Chino, California in May, titled, 'The Quest for a Spiritual Home': https://events.eventzilla.net/e/estuary-chino-2023-2138601197 - Plato's Dialogues, including The Symposium, are included in our The Symbolic World reading list. See here for more: https://thesymbolicworld.com/reading-list ------------------------ 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

283 - John Vervaeke and Paul VanderKlay - The Quest For A Spiritual Home Conference Warmup Apr 20, 2023

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https://events.eventzilla.net/e/estuary-chino-2023-2138601197 Date of event: Thursday, 18 May 2023 12:00 PM - Sunday, 21 May 2023 4:00 PM PDT Place of event: CrossPoint Church, 6950 Edison Ave, Chino, CA, 91710, United States. Join Jonathan Pageau, John Vervaeke, and Paul VanderKlay for a two-day event with presentations, conversations, and break-out sessions using the Estuary Protocol, moderated by Kathryn Wilson. On May 21, join John Vervaeke for guided meditation at 7am, followed by Paul as a guest preacher at CrossPoint Church at 9:30am. At 1:30pm, Jonathan Pageau will lead a tour at St. Andrew's Orthodox Church. Attendance is limited to 325 people, with 100 discounted tickets available. A group rate for 30 rooms is offered at the Ayres Hotel in Chino Hills, CA. The event is sponsored by ProFathers, Inc., and the local Chino chapter of the Estuary Project. --------------------------- 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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