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    The Spill

    The Spill is your daily entertainment news fix where we break down the biggest celebrity headlines. Join Laura Brodnik and her cast of expert pals like Em Vernem, Tina Burke and Tina Provis for brutally honest takes on pop culture, plus their recommendations that are actually worth watching. New episodes every weekday at 3pm.

    Plus we have the latest pop culture headlines every weekday with the latest Morning Tea from Ash London, and on Friday we’ll give you the best new TV shows and movies to binge this weekend in our Weekend Watch.

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    The Truth About Hayden Panettiere Abandoning Her Daughter & Katy Perry’s Faux Tears May 14, 2026
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    Katy Perry has dropped a TikTok over Josh Groban's surprise engagement that has the internet spiralling, and once you find out what song is playing in the background, the whole thing makes a lot more sense.
    We're also doing a deep dive into Hayden Panettiere's tell-all interviews in the press recently unpacking the real story behind her postpartum depression, the rumours that decimated her career, and the heartbreaking decision around her daughter that the world refused to forgive her for.
    Finally, we get into the Hollywood double standard that explains why Hayden never got the redemption arc other 'fallen' starlets did, and why this might finally be her moment to take it back.
    Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Partywhere we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now.

    Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news…

    OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here.

    THE END BITS

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    Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran

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    MORNING TEA: The Bridgerton x Kardashian Crossover TV Show & North West's Festival Debut May 13, 2026
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    This morning, North West may be too young to attend Rolling Loud, but she still managed to perform. Well, kinda. Plus, the Bridgerton creator and Kim Kardashian just got their Netflix show greenlit and I have already watched it twice through in my mind, and two NSYNC members ran between Broadway theatres to perform "It's Gonna Be Me" and the lady screaming at the end is all of us.

    ☕ North West debuts at Rolling Loud at 12

    ☕ Kim Kardashian and Bridgerton's Chris Van Dusen just got their Netflix show Calabasas greenlit

    ☕ Melissa Leong speaks out after her show is axed

    ☕ Paris Jackson wins her legal battle against Michael Jackson's estate executors

    ☕ Joey Fatone and Lance Bass crash a Broadway show for the most joyful NSYNC reunion

    THE END BITS
    Once you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.
    You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

    LINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403
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    CREDITS
    Host & Producer: Ash London
    Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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    Why Kylie Jenner & Timothée Chalamet Are Cursed & Blake Lively’s ‘Betrayal’ May 13, 2026
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    There's a reason Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet skipped the Met Gala red carpet together this year, and apparently it has nothing to do with their relationship and everything to do with a curse that's been quietly wreaking havoc on Hollywood's biggest couples for years.
    A week after Blake Lively's settlement with Justin Baldoni dropped just in time for her Met Gala victory lap, the case is back in the headlines with an allegedly angry judge, a brand new legal twist, and a wave of fans now claiming they feel completely betrayed by her.
    Plus, American Horror Story Season 13 has just dropped its make-or-break casting bombshell, and we're unpacking why one pretty face from Love Story might not be ready to share the screen with Sarah Paulson and Ariana Grande.
    Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Partywhere we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now.

    Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news…

    OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here.

    THE END BITS

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    MORNING TEA: The Robert Irwin Bidding War & Katy Perry Mourns Her Ex May 12, 2026
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    This morning, Katy Perry has given us the most iconic TikTok of the year in response to her ex's engagement. Plus, Euphoria has dropped its most controversial episode yet, and Hayden Panettiere has opened up about the most painful decision of her life.

    ☕ Katy Perry fake-cries to her own song and it's hilarious

    ☕ Euphoria Season 3 drops its most disturbing episode yet and the internet cannot cope

    ☕ Hayden Panettiere opens up about signing over custody of her daughter

    ☕ Jamie Foxx is expecting his third child at 58 and we love this for him

    ☕ Rival networks circle Robert Irwin

    THE END BITS
    Once you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.
    You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
    LINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403
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    CREDITS
    Host & Producer: Ash London
    Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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    Stanley Tucci's Murky Love History Is Trending & Why We're Divided On Charli XCX's New Rock Era May 12, 2026
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    One famous actor is suddenly everywhere—new film, Hollywood Walk of Fame star, viral press tour—and now his very murky past is trending again. We're unpacking the 20-year-old affair that just won't go away, the complicated timeline with his first wife, and why his "nice guy" image makes it all feel even darker.
    Plus, Charlie XCX said goodbye to Brat Summer vibes and hello to her new rock era, except she didn't actually say she was making a rock album—and the internet can't agree on whether this is genius or missing the mark. We're breaking down the divisive two-minute song and why people are wondering if lightning will strike twice.
    And finally, Jerry Seinfeld just made the case that Friends totally copied his show, and we're settling the ultimate sitcom debate once and for all—with one of us absolutely dying on the Seinfeld hill.
    Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Partywhere we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now.

    Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news…

    OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here.

    THE END BITS

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    MORNING TEA: We Sit Down With Westlife (squeal!) & The Race To Replace Kyle Just Got More Interesting May 11, 2026
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    This morning, the Hemsworth twins enter their depo baby era. Plus, Keli Holiday has been booted out of the US mid-tour and nobody knows exactly why, and the Kyle and Jackie O replacement saga has a very interesting new twist.

    ☕ Chris Hemsworth's twins make their acting debut in mum Elsa Pataky's new show

    ☕ Keli Holiday is denied re-entry into the US mid-tour

    ☕ Dubai broadcaster Kris Fade confirms talks with ARN to replace Kyle Sandilands

    ☕ A sneak peek at Delta's Eurovision performance

    ☕ We sit down with Westlife ahead of their 25th anniversary Australian tour

    THE END BITS

    Once you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.

    Find our new Bridgerton podcast in the Watch Party feed on Apple or Spotify.

    Support independent women's media

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    CREDITS

    Host & Producer: Ash London

    Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    All Our Fave Books Are Being Made Into Rom Coms & The Truth About The Hollywood AI Takeover May 11, 2026
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    The romantic recession is officially over. We’re deep-diving into the massive slate of book-to-screen adaptations just announced, including the spicy hockey romance the internet is obsessed with, and the cult-classic fake dating story finally getting the movie treatment. If you’ve spent the last year spiralling over these characters on TikTok, your weekend plans for the next two years are officially sorted.
    Then, we’re looking at the "terrifying" side of technology that has one of our favourite leading ladies calling out "losers" in the industry. From massive layoffs at a major studio to the digital ‘resurrection’ of an iconic actor, we explore the high-stakes feud between creative souls and the robots taking over Hollywood.
    Plus, a look at the historic night where a young star’s vision became a reality. We’re breaking down the wins from the biggest night in British TV and the heartbreaking tribute to a late, great icon that left the room in tears.
    Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Partywhere we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now.

    Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news…

    OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here.

    THE END BITS

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    Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP!

    Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran

    Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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    MORNING TEA: Lenny Kravitz Gives Harry The Thumbs Up & Kim K's Emotional Prison Mission & May 10, 2026
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    This morning, Kim Kardashian has done something genuinely beautiful for incarcerated mums, Britney Spears has broken her silence after rehab, and Taylor Swift's lawyers have turned the savagery up to 11.

    ☕ Kim Kardashian's Mother's Day surprise for incarcerated Mums

    ☕ Lenny Kravitz shows some very public approval for Harry

    ☕ Taylor Swift's lawyers call a showgirl's trademark lawsuit "meritless" and "absurd"

    ☕ Britney Spears speaks out after rehab

    ☕ Maren Morris has been secretly donating all her meet and greet money

    ☕ Kevin McKidd says he'd return to Grey's Anatomy "in a heartbeat"

    THE END BITS
    Once you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.
    You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
    LINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403
    Support independent women's media
    Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.
    Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.
    Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.
    CREDITS
    Host & Producer: Ash London
    Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    A Brutally Honest Review Of The Devil Wears Prada 2 May 08, 2026
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    Test your knowledge and take our Devil Wears Prada quiz here!
    Gird your loins, because we’ve waited 20 years for this moment, and now we’re finally breaking down the sequel to the most iconic fashion movie of all time.
    From the A-list celebrity cameos that were left on the cutting room floor to the ‘recession indicator’ vibes of the new Runway offices, we’re dissecting whether this return to the high-stakes world of elite publishing actually sticks the landing.
    Plus, we’re deep-diving into why the sequel’s central romance felt like a ‘situationship’ gone wrong and unpacking the brutal line of dialogue that has the internet reeling and why one specific scene felt like a personal betrayal to the lead character's mythology.
    From the 'horror movie' reality of modern digital media to the unexpected pop star collab that stole the final act, we’re revealing everything that worked and everything that made us cringe.
    Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Partywhere we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now.

    Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news…

    OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here.

    THE END BITS

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    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/

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    Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran

    Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

    From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix.

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    Weekend Watch: The 3D Concert Experience Fans Are Moshing To & Em's Favourite Movie Of 2026 May 07, 2026
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    If your idea of a perfect weekend involves a high-energy 3D concert experience where the audience is literally moshing in the cinema aisles, we have the ultimate recco from a global pop icon.We’re also talking about the heartwarming adaptation of a best-selling novel featuring a very sassy, very smart sea creature and a retired cleaner with a mystery to solve.Finally, we unpack a quirky new film about a flock of woolly detectives that features one of our favourite leading men, and has been crowned Em's favourite movie of the year (so far).Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Partywhere we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. Read more weekly watch recommendations from the Mamamia entertainment team here. THE END BITS Find and follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/ Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Support Independent Women’s Media: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/ Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women. Want to join the conversation? Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to a Mom with mea podcast. 00:11Speaker 2 From Mom and May. I welcome to this bill, your daily pop culture fixed. I'm em Vernon and I'm Anihaiswarren, and we are doing we can Everything with my voice gone as well. It does not sound as nice as my previous weeks, because previous weeks does sound quite nice. 00:29Speaker 1 You've got a nice little husk going though. I feel like it's quite sexy. 00:32Speaker 2 I kind of hope it stays like this. 00:35Speaker 3 You're doing a bit of scar jokes and make my throat very dry though, so not good for you, but good for the people. 00:43Speaker 2 Yeah, good for everyone else. Anyway. It's our weekend Watch episode where we give you our favorite movies and TV shows to watch this weekend. On the show today, we have a movie that you can dance to in your living room or on the cinema stage. And we also have a movie that you can vibe with, laugh with, investigate. 01:05Speaker 1 With, talk with. You went on a real journey with that movie. 01:08Speaker 2 Oh my god, I have so much to say, spillers, But first, mon, you have a movie that's been on your radar recently. 01:14Speaker 3 Yes, so there's a movie that's coming out today and I haven't seen it yet because it only drops later tonight. 01:20Speaker 1 But I'm really excited about it because I've read the book. 01:22Speaker 3 Oh so I think a lot of people would have heard of this, because I think a lot of people are reading it right now. Literally went to the park the other day and I saw a woman get out of a book and it was this book. It's everywhere. You might recognize it as the bright yellow book with the octopus on it, yes, but it's called Remarkably Bright Creatures. 01:38Speaker 2 I've heard very, very good things about this book. 01:40Speaker 3 Yeah, it's spent more than sixty four weeks on the New York Times bestseller list. It's written by this lady called Shelby van Pelt. 01:48Speaker 1 I don't know any of her other work, but she wrote this book. 01:51Speaker 3 And I actually read it from my book club and I aced the quiz, so it did really well, And I want to free your. 01:56Speaker 2 Book club has quizzes? 01:58Speaker 1 Shall we do a quiz? We take it very serious, not one of. 02:00Speaker 2 Those meant to be fun and enjoyed. 02:03Speaker 1 It's fun and you learn things. Emily. 02:06Speaker 3 So the plot is basically the main character is called Tova Sullivan. She's this woman in her seventies she's retired, but she doesn't fully want to retire, so she still has this part time job cleaning the aquarium and the aquarium the town aquarium. Yeah, it's the aquarium of the town. And she forms a bond. Nothing weird, but she forms a bond with this octopus called Marcellus. 02:29Speaker 2 Is it like a sexual book. 02:30Speaker 3 It's not a sexual pod. It's more of a deeper emotional connection. 02:34Speaker 1 He just gets her. 02:35Speaker 2 Octopuses are meant to be very smart creatures. Isn't it octopi not octopuses. 02:39Speaker 1 I don't think it's octopi. Well, there's no plural in this because it's only one o. 02:43Speaker 2 Well, this octopus seems like he is he or she he muscles, is very smart. So this we have an octopus that would guess who would win the fief for World Cup. 02:52Speaker 3 Yes, so there's all these videos of octopus octopi that. 02:56Speaker 2 Go viral and she doesn't take it seriously. 02:59Speaker 1 But okay, well I'm pretty sure that's what it is. But the woman who wrote. 03:03Speaker 3 This book got inspired by one of those viral videos of the octopus doing something smart. She was like, oh, they're so smart, and then she like wrote this book and there's. 03:10Speaker 1 Parts that are from the octopus perspective. 03:12Speaker 2 They love crazy imaginations. I know, I watched that video and I was like, cool, that made like a massive career out of writing this, Like she's a. 03:21Speaker 3 Seller book, actually great character inspoke, So there's little parts of book that are from the octopus perspective. And he's quite like, I'm sure it's a good book. He said that he's quite disdainful of humans. He's always like, I don't know, he's always kind of like looking down on them. 03:36Speaker 1 It's kind of comic relief in the book club. 03:38Speaker 3 People were divided over whether he's very annoying or very lovable. 03:42Speaker 1 Ah, but anyway. 03:44Speaker 3 It premiered at Sundance earlier this year and was very well received, very warm reception, so I'm very excited to see it. Sally's Field is playing Toba, and Lewis Pullman is in it. He's playing Cameron, who's this other character, Who's this. 03:56Speaker 1 Guy who's like thirty. Honestly, he really annoyed me in it. 03:58Speaker 2 He's just kind of like thirty. 04:00Speaker 1 He's just trying to like, he just has nothing figured out. He just has he's always like. 04:05Speaker 2 Him a break, he's down thirty everything's always breaking. 04:08Speaker 1 His camper van's always breaking. I think it's it is. 04:12Speaker 3 If you read it, you do mean everything goes wrong and it's sort of his fault and you just get it together cameraon. 04:18Speaker 1 But anyway, he's also a lead character. So very excited to see it. I think it'll be quite a heartwarming watch. It's quite emotion I. 04:24Speaker 2 Think, do you think I should read the book before I watch it? 04:27Speaker 3 Yeah? Maybe if you can be bothered. But it's going to come out tonight, so I don't know if you want to be part of the cultural movement, and yeah, maybe I'll just watch the movie. 04:34Speaker 1 Maybe just watch it. 04:35Speaker 3 So it's out on Netflix, I believe around five pm tonight, remarkably Brian creatures. 04:40Speaker 2 I'm excited. 04:42Speaker 3 Okay, So I went to see a movie this week where I have to say, I haven't been to a movie where the atmosphere in the audience was like this crazy for a while. It was the Billie Eilish Hit Me Hard and Soft tour, like the live concert experience in three D. 04:58Speaker 1 The day of a show, it just feels like any day at all. 05:02Speaker 4 I just feel like I'm like going to hang out with my friends. 05:05Speaker 2 Here I go. 05:08Speaker 4 To see the scrapes on my hands that is from the fans. I want to feel like it's me and them. You love that. 05:20Speaker 1 I love that. It was really good. 05:24Speaker 3 And I've never gone to a stadium tour of hers, like I didn't go to this tour. I've seen her at festivals when she was on the way up, like it grew in the moon and stuff, but. 05:31Speaker 1 I have never cared. 05:32Speaker 3 I've never seen her well after this, I really want to because she's amazing. I feel like I went to the concert because the crowd were like super fans, so everyone was there dressed in their like caps and kind of like dressed like her and were full like singing along. It was kind of like with the Ears tour with Taylor Swift, how people would go down to the front and like marsh in. 05:51Speaker 2 The like was there a marsh in your cinema? 05:53Speaker 1 There was a mosh in my cinema. 05:55Speaker 3 And the guy next to me was honestly, he brought a lot of the vibes like I wish I could recommend this movie. Sitting next to this particular man, he was like every time she did like a vocal run, he'd be like, yeah, he's kind of like do it along, and then he'd follow along every now and then be like, WHOA, I killed that anyway, So he was very invested. Would you consider yourself a Billie Eilish fan? 06:16Speaker 2 I would consider myself like, yeah, I would say I'm a fan of her music, but I don't know much about her as a person, and I don't think I would like when she came to Sydney. I think it was like a year ago she came to Sydney. I wasn't a big fan enough then to be like, Okay, I'm going to fork out for a concert ticket because concert tickets are expensive. 06:36Speaker 1 They are really expensive. 06:37Speaker 2 As you guys mentioned on the spill, this is. 06:40Speaker 1 A prime example of it. So I would say the same. 06:43Speaker 3 I really like a music, definitely not like a hardcore fan. So I went into it being like, oh am I going to be like a big enough fan to really enjoy this movie. But I really did. And I will say there were probably only like two songs I didn't recognize, like she has so many bangers. 06:56Speaker 2 Yeah, just keep going, and she's an excellent performer and live singer. 07:00Speaker 3 Because she obviously has so many deep emotional, moody songs. Me and my friend who went, We were like, whoa kind of like, you know, feels right now, but then it will suddenly be like bad guy and the whole cinema goes crazy. And it's obviously such a good way to get to experience that if you didn't go to the concert as well. I was thinking before the only concert films I can remember seeing other than this are the Eras Tour and then like never say never, the justin Peoble. 07:21Speaker 2 One, Oh yeah, oh did you ever you know which one I went to which when I was like quite young, like I was in primary school. The Hannah Montana concert me Miley Cyrus. 07:33Speaker 1 I did actually watch that too, and that was crazy. 07:36Speaker 2 Every time one of the Jonas brothers came on screen, every young girl in the cinema would just scream ahead off And I was like, because I was quite a mature young person, so I was like, they're not really there, They're not there. 07:48Speaker 3 I'm so glad you were there to clarify that I was such a looser. 07:51Speaker 2 I was like scolding these kids my age. 07:53Speaker 1 Yeah, like, thank thanks everyone. 07:56Speaker 3 So I feel like this one was different to sort of like the Ears to where it's just the concert films because they had these little behind the scenes interview bits with her as well on the day of the concert, and she it was done in collaboration with James Cameron, like he was one of the directors. 08:10Speaker 2 Oh wow, kind of friend. 08:11Speaker 1 I'm like in between avatars. 08:12Speaker 2 Yes, he's I need to show people the length of my work, not like blue people. 08:17Speaker 1 I'm more than that. 08:18Speaker 2 I'm more than avatar. 08:19Speaker 3 And the way it's shot is great, like the way she has such hypnotic eyes and the way she sort of stares down the camera. 08:25Speaker 2 And the way she does her makeup. I remember one of her I think it was Vogue where they do like the celebrities and how they do their makeup, and like her video went completely viral because of the way she does the eyeliner is so intense. 08:36Speaker 3 They show that in this too, where she sort of tweaks it on the end. She does all her hair and makeup for the tour herself. 08:42Speaker 2 That's crazy. And she's so good at makeup because her face always looks beat. 08:47Speaker 3 Yeah, she looked really great, and she talked about some really interesting things in the interview bits that he did with her, so she sort of explained her reasoning for why she dresses in the kind of basketball jersey and like baggy shorts for the concert, and she sort of spoke about how there's not that many female pop stars who don't do the whole like dress up and look really sexy kind of thing. Obviously we see that more with like Taylor Swift, Sabrina carp and to take and prey all those people, and she was like, I just didn't really want to have to do that because when I was growing up watching rap artists and they would just run around the stage being so comfortable and free, I just wanted to be like that, and she didn't see other women doing that, so she really wanted to be that for like the next generation of girls. 09:24Speaker 2 That's so cute. 09:25Speaker 1 Yeah, So I thought. 09:26Speaker 3 They showed really interesting things like that, a lot of interviews with the fans, and then also sort of showed how she is as a creative, like she's really involved in the lighting, she's really involved in everything to do with the stadium more than just like getting up there and singing. And then one thing I thought was really cute is that every town that they go to, they kind of connect with a rescue dog center and they bring in dogs for the crew and the other band members to like. 09:49Speaker 1 Have us like little therapy dogs and they play with them. 09:51Speaker 2 Shut up, why do we do that here? 09:53Speaker 1 And we should bring that. 09:55Speaker 2 We just had a dog in our studio just sleeping over there. 09:57Speaker 1 I think the podcast would be better. 09:58Speaker 2 Yeah, let's put that in our next like quarterly review. I want to do this, improvements to me for yourself, And I was like, improvements for everyone else bringing dogs. 10:10Speaker 3 So yeah, Billy Eilish hit me hard and soft. The tour live, it's out in cinema's now. Probably a good one if you have kids as well. I feel like all the like there were a lot of children there and they were really getting into it too, so. 10:20Speaker 2 Yeah, good family experience. Okay, I need to talk about a movie that I saw over the weekend. I was very lucky. I got to go to the Sydney screening of this movie. And when you know it's a weekend screening, it means there's going to be a lot of kids there. Because kids can come out in the weekend. 10:39Speaker 1 They're like vampires at night on the weekend. 10:41Speaker 2 We never see them throughout the week. We only see them on the weekend. So I went to the screening much similar to you, chaotic crowd, vibe vibes, a lot of children. And I was sitting next to Tina Burke and a few of us, and someone was like, Oh my god, look at all those kids over there. Look how many there are. And I…

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