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    The Space Show by Dr. David Livingston

    The Space Show® focuses on timely and important issues influencing the development of outer-space commerce and space tourism, as well as other related subjects of interest to us all.

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    Michael Listner, Space Attorney, talks policy, Executive Orders and commercial space. Aug 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Please note that we experienced unidentified audio problems for this program including callers using our toll free line. We sincerely apologize for this unfortunate audio problem.

    In this space policy discussion, host David and guest Michael Listener, a space attorney, addressed recent developments including potential changes to COMSTACK, budget concerns, and the Trump administration's approach to commercial space through executive orders. They explored international competition with China, regulatory challenges for lunar nuclear power, and the philosophical differences between US and European space law approaches. The conversation also covered practical ways citizens can influence space policy, though both speakers acknowledged the difficulty of accessing decision-makers without connections or expensive lobbying efforts. I also reminded listeners that the show is a nonprofit needing support, we acknowledged our sponsors and provided instructions for donors to support us as we are a listener supported program.

    Our guest, Michael Listener, space attorney, discussed recent developments in space policy with us. Michael explained that the reported dismissal of COMSTAC was from an executive order issued by the Trump administration, suggesting it might be a better move to start with fresh membership rather than completely eliminating the committee. Michael noted that COMSTAC only offers recommendations and cannot make policy decisions. Regarding budget cuts for science and space programs, Michael believed the administration likely has legal grounds for overriding Congressional budget decisions, noting that such actions will probably be challenged in court.

    I asked Michael about China potentially reaching the moon before the US, emphasizing the importance of establishing precedent and rules in space. Michael said there might probably be a bipartisan "political feeding frenzy" in Congress if China beats the US to the moon, though he doubts this would lead to sustained focus on space given today's news cycles. Michael also expressed concern about the SLS rocket program being locked into law through the CHIPS Act, describing it as "expensive and really unsustainable." He noted significant philosophical differences between US and European approaches to space law, with Europeans favoring top-down regulations while the US prefers developing laws as activities evolve.

    I experienced technical difficulties with the toll free phone during a call with AJ. AJ talked about the allocation of funds in a bill, specifically whether Trump could accept only certain parts (4 and 5) but not others. Michael suggested that the money was likely already appropriated so they would be stuck with it.

    We discussed the Trump administration's interest in space, particularly commercial space, citing a recent executive order that aims to reduce regulation, simplify environmental reviews for spaceports, and elevate the office of commercial space to report directly to the Secretary of Transportation. Michael acknowledged that while space is a priority for the administration, they have many other pressing issues to handle. I also addresses a question about NASA leadership, stating that having a dedicated administrator would be more advantageous than an acting administrator who splits time between NASA and another agency. When asked about how ordinary citizens can influence space policy, Michael suggested contacting representatives directly or getting involved with an NGO.

    We further discussed the challenges of influencing policy, noting that it often requires connections to decision-makers or hiring expensive lobbyists. Michael said the he liked writing articles to gain attention, occasionally working with congressional offices, though with mixed results. When asked about anti-space program sentiment, Michael indicated that while there are people who believe space funding could be better spent elsewhere, this isn't an organized movement but rather a common belief. He observes that most people generally like space and enjoy rocket launches despite lacking detailed knowledge. Both thought there was some degree of a shift in public perception toward SpaceX and Elon Musk, with people now reacting negatively to SpaceX merchandise.

    I brought up the regulatory implications of placing a nuclear power plant on the moon, noting that while there are international protocols for nuclear power, there aren't many binding rules yet for space activities. We said that nuclear power was necessary for lunar installations since sunlight isn't available for about two weeks at a time on the Moon. Placing a reactor there may raise some questions about sovereignty and access restrictions. Michael clarified that environmental laws are designed for Earth's biosphere and don't extend to outer space, despite some environmentalists' attempts to apply them beyond Earth. He provided examples plus he briefly talked about when environmental assessments are required for space missions, specifically for launches with radioactive power sources and for missions returning materials to Earth.

    In closing, Michael discussed his interest in seeing if the National Space Council reconvenes plus he wants to see whether more space policies will come from the administration before year-end. He explained that executive orders are an efficient way to implement space policy compared to legislation, though they can be reversed by future administrations. When a caller asked about effective ways to communicate with policymakers, David and Michael acknowledge the difficulty of getting direct access to government officials, suggesting that messages to the White House website are likely only tabulated statistically rather than individually considered.

    Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

    Our Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223

    For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com

    The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:

    To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.

    If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:

    One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135

    Upcoming Programs:

    Broadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: Mari Anne Snow

    Mari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECM

    Broadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    Guest TBD

    Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:

    Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#

    FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream


    Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

    Open Lines Discussion on the Space Show Aug 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Our Open Lines program began by delving into a wide-ranging discussion about space exploration topics including nuclear power on the Moon, micro reactors, and SpaceX's Starship program. Together we explored various challenges facing space missions, including regulatory hurdles, technical limitations, and the need for proper infrastructure, while also discussing the financial implications of space programs and the role of government involvement. The conversation ended with updates on upcoming events, including an art show by Dr. Ajay and discussions about Artemis program development, along with announcements about future Space Show programs. Joining us in our Zoom discussion were Marshall Martin, John Hunt, Dr. Sherry Bell, Dr. Ajay Kothari, and John Jossy. We had a call from Tony in Pasadena and a few emails from the live stream listening audience. I also talked about my recent Coast to Coast appearance on one or two specific topics in conjunction with anew Sunday Op-Ed by Mark Whitington.

    Discussion Review:

    I opened the discussing by my talking about nuclear power on the Moon during my recent Coast to Coast AM interview. I commented on the surprising opposition from some listeners, I was asked to comment on Secretary Duffy's proposal to explore nuclear power options for lunar habitats and I said that was strategically important for controlling valuable real estate under international space treaties, particularly given China's potential to claim territory around their first lunar nuclear power plant. The discussion highlighted regulatory challenges and the need for ground testing facilities. Both John Hunt and John Jossy agreed that while nuclear power would be necessary for polar region exploration, the timing might be premature without proper infrastructure in place. Again, for our Space Show program I often referred to the Whittington Op-Ed.

    Our Open Lines group discussed the development and implementation of micro nuclear reactors for lunar bases, with Ajay emphasizing the need for these small reactors, which could power about 1,000 homes, to be developed and tested. Marshall raised concerns about safety zones around these reactors, noting that while traditional reactors require large safety areas, micro reactors would need significantly smaller ones. I mentioned that NPR had reported on 100 kilowatt reactors, which could power a lunar base, and discussed the potential opposition and costs associated with such projects per Whittington. We also touched on the use of nuclear power in space missions and the design of a 50-megawatt reactor by Dr. Ajay, which could be scaled down for smaller applications.

    We talked a lot about the public understanding and interest in space exploration, with David expressing surprise at the lack of awareness about space program challenges per an email I received directly from a Coast to Coast listener. Ajay suggested this was due to the general audience's focus on other topics like world events and personal interests, while Marshall noted that even educated audiences lack depth of knowledge about space programs. The discussion concluded with John Jossy raising concerns about the technical challenges of an autonomous lunar lander mission by 2030, with Ajay agreeing it would likely be delayed until 2034 or 2035. By the way, I sent two email replies to the Coast listener that email me re challenges and negativity. I never got a reply from him. I also invited him to listen and participate in this OL program. He was a no show.

    Next, Marshall presented calculations on SpaceX's financial projections, estimating that Elon Musk would need approximately $1 billion for Starship testing and $15 billion for deploying 4,000 Starlink satellites. He suggested that Starlink could capture up to a quarter of the global communication services market, potentially generating between $40 billion to $200 billion annually, which could fund Musk's Mars project and other space initiatives. The discussion concluded with participants agreeing that while Musk's high unfavorable rating (67%) could pose political challenges, his influence on commercial space development would be difficult to replace, as other companies struggle to match SpaceX's progress in reusability and space technology.

    Next up was our discussion about the potential impact of government regulations on space exploration, with Marshall suggesting that adding bureaucracy could delay missions by 25 years. We also explored the topic of UFOs and UAPs, with John Hunt mentioning that Sean Duffy would be requesting a briefing on the subject. The conversation then shifted to the credibility of information in the UFO community, with David expressing skepticism about government and media integrity, and John Hunt discussing the potential for disinformation to discredit individuals sharing sensitive information. Personally, I believe the topic is so contaminated with bad information from everyone including government that it would be hard to believe anything regardless of the source or disclosure.

    August 24,

    SpaceX's Starship launch plans were mentioned with John Jossy reporting the next launch is scheduled for August 24, Sunday at 7:30 AM Eastern time, including testing of Starlink mass simulators and a raptor test in orbit. Ajay raised concerns about Starship's suitability for lunar missions, citing its large size and technical challenges, particularly regarding refueling and thrust-to-weight ratio for moon landings. The discussion concluded that a smaller vehicle like Blue Origin's New Glenn Mark 2 (approximately 30-40 tons) would be more suitable for Artemis missions than SpaceX's HLS concept, which Ajay argued is too heavy and complex for lunar transportation needs.

    The audience expressed concerns about delays in the Artemis program, particularly for Artemis 3, which is scheduled for 2027 but may be pushed to 2028. They expressed worry about the lack of coordination between independent projects, such as spacesuits and rovers, needed for the mission. Ajay mentioned that Johns Hopkins University's Applied Physics Lab is working on integrating these components through NASA contracts, but there were questions about whether this was being done effectively. The group also discussed the need for a dedicated Artemis program manager to oversee these efforts.

    The group discussed the importance of the double catch milestone for SpaceX's Starship program, which requires two towers for successful completion. Caller Tony shared information about a YouTube channel by Phil Sloss that provides weekly updates on Artemis development, noting that Artemis 2 is ahead of schedule. We also discussed the need for more transparency in space operations and the potential for inviting Artemis managers as guests to their program. Marshall raised questions about the cost of refurbishing Starship systems for reuse, estimating it at around 10% of the cost of a new system, though others noted that such figures are not publicly available. In learning about the excellent work by Philip Sloss regarding Artemis, I believe I spoke too soon on project management concerns for the Artemis program. I have reached out to Phil to see if he will be a Space Show guest. I will let everyone know if he accepts the invitation.

    Several additional topics, including the mentioning of Ajay's upcoming art show featuring 30-40 of his paintings which will be available for viewing and purchase on his website. His art website information link is posted on our blog for this program at www.thespaceshow.com. Dr. Sherry Bell mentioned Robert Zubrin's advocacy for nuclear power and his new book "The Case for Nukes." John Jossy shared information about a new book titled "A Dream Renewed: O'Neill's Vision in the 21st Century," which explores space settlements and technology. I announced upcoming guests for the Space Show, including Michael Listner discussing the administration and Comstack on Tuesday, and Mari from a biotech company focusing on artificial organs and space nanomedicine on Friday. For Sunday's show, will invite potential guests to call in and discuss their space-related projects if the scheduled guest does not confirm.

    Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

    Our Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223

    For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com

    The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:

    To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.

    If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:

    One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135

    Upcoming Programs:

    Broadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: Mari Anne Snow

    Mari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECM

    Broadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    Guest TBD

    Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:

    Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#

    FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream


    Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

    Hotel Mars with Andrew Chanin on ETFs, the UFO space fund, space investment & risk analysis plus more. Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

    John, David and Andrew Chanin (our guest) discussed UFO, ETF (Exchange Traded Fund), which offers exposure to over 40 publicly traded space-related companies worldwide. Their conversation explored investment opportunities in both public and private space companies, including large aerospace firms and emerging startups. Andrew examined investment vehicles such as ETFs, special purpose vehicles (SPVs), and private securities markets, highlighting the challenges of accessing high-profile private companies like SpaceX, which are often limited to institutional or high-net-worth investors.

    The discussion also emphasized the importance of understanding company profitability, investment risks, and the need for consulting financial advisors for suitability, especially for long-term goals like retirement or education.

    Beyond financial considerations, Andrew explored the future of space infrastructure, including lunar bases, commercial stations, and national security concerns. Our guest noted the need for capital management, technological diversity, and strategies to address satellite traffic and debris in low Earth orbit.

    The conversation concluded by underlining the dual-use potential (commercial and defense) of space technologies and the strategic importance of space development for both economic and military applications.

    Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

    Our Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223

    For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com

    The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:

    To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.

    If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:

    One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135

    Upcoming Programs:

    Broadcast 4418: Michael Listner, Atty | Tuesday 19 Aug 2025 700PM PT

    Guests: Michael Listner

    Michael will talk about administration space policy changes, commercial space and more for one hour.

    Broadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston

    Hotel Mars TBD

    Broadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston

    Hotel Mars TBD

    Broadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: Mari Anne Snow

    Mari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECM

    Broadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    Guest TBD

    Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:

    Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#

    FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream


    Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

    Dr. Ajay Kothari leads the discussion on possible Artemis alternatives & options. Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

    The Space Show presents Dr. A.J. Kothar via Zoom leading a discussion on how best to return & get infrastructure to the Moon. Tuesday, August 12, 2025

    Our discussion centered on Ajay Kothari's proposal to use multiple Falcon Heavy rockets for lunar missions as a cost-effective alternative to NASA’s SLS and SpaceX’s Starship. Kothari argued this method could be implemented within two years at an estimated cost of $400–600 million, and would avoid political pushback by serving as a complement rather than a replacement for existing programs. His plan involves docking multiple upper stages in low Earth orbit, then sending them to the Moon to land infrastructure payloads like nuclear power components. However, participants raised concerns over technical feasibility, payload delivery, landing mechanics, and cost estimates. By the way, do see Ajay’s presentation which has been uploaded to our blog for this program.

    Phil presented Ajay’s slides for the group to refer to during our program. Our continued discussion addressed leveraging current SLS/Orion infrastructure, despite general dissatisfaction with their limitations.

    Key technical concerns included the following by those in the Zoom meeting with Dr. Kothari:

    * Rick questioned the structural viability of connecting multiple upper stages, referencing challenges faced by Falcon Heavy.

    * Phil noted possible high costs and a lack of existing control systems.

    * Doug challenged Ajay’s assumptions on Falcon Heavy’s actual payload capabilities, prompting references to NASA’s verified data.

    * Ajay explained his design accounts for partial reuse and optimized payload delivery, and he agreed to prepare a comparative metrics table for future presentations.

    Broader discussion shifted to Artemis program challenges, with skepticism from David and others about the realistic timeline and lack of cohesive leadership. Participants debated whether public-private partnerships, government direction, or commercial entrepreneurs like Musk and Bezos should lead space efforts. Ajay supported a hybrid approach, emphasizing infrastructure-building, not just symbolic landings.

    Additional topics included

    The strategic value of nuclear power (e.g., Kilopower project) for lunar manufacturing.

    * The importance of establishing infrastructure at the Moon’s South Pole, including potential use of water ice as a fuel resource.

    * Phil’s critique of NASA’s over-reliance on commercialization.

    * Charles’s belief that China will reach the Moon first, citing inconsistent U.S. program management.

    * The program concluded with debate over the realistic date for returning humans to the Moon, with predictions ranging from 2028–2029, and acknowledgments that China's progress may influence U.S. urgency.

    Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

    Our Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223

    For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com

    The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:

    To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.

    If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:

    One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135

    Upcoming Programs:

    Broadcast 4418: Michael Listner, Atty | Tuesday 19 Aug 2025 700PM PT

    Guests: Michael Listner

    Michael will talk about administration space policy changes, commercial space and more for one hour.

    Broadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston

    Hotel Mars TBD

    Broadcast 4420: Hotel Mars TBD | Wednesday 20 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston

    Hotel Mars TBD

    Broadcast 4421: Mari Anne Snow (Zoom & livestream) | Friday 22 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: Mari Anne Snow

    Mari, CEO of Eascra Biotech, talks about their in space pioneering precision therapeutic delivery solutions for challenging tissues, including articular cartilage, kidneys, & ECM

    Broadcast 4422: TBD | Monday 25 Aug 2025 1200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    Guest TBD

    Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:

    Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#

    FastServhttps://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream


    Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

    Dr. Tom Matula introduces his Sul Ross University online MBA in Commercial Space plus Tom talks turkey about SLA, Artemis, SpaceX, Blue Origin, returning to the Moon and more. Aug 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Our program opened with my announcing changes to the show's format, including a new Tuesday Zoom-broadcast program, a toll-free call-in line, and details about upcoming guests such as Dr. Kothari returning to the Moon plans and Andrew Chanin of the UFO ETF being on Hotel Mars for Wednesday. He reminded listeners of the show's nonprofit status and encouraged support.

    With Dr. Tom Matula as our guest, our main topic centered around his new MBA programs focused on space commerce which he developed at Sul Ross University in Texas.

    Tom introduced the 100% online, accredited MBA in space commerce, featuring 12 core business courses and 4 space-specific courses, including a capstone project. The program is asynchronous, can be completed in one year, and benefits from proximity to Texas spaceports. We also reviewed a few of the other MBA in Space Commerce programs, noting their high tuition ($102K–$131K) and its face-to-face structure with online components. Tom’s program is one of only two such specialized MBA programs in the U.S. and is part of the PASEC coalition. Tom compared his program’s tuition cost to those of the other schools that were mentioned a few minutes earlier.

    Texas was highlighted for its strong support of the space industry, including a $350 million grant program and a planned $200 million Mars simulation facility. The discussion also covered credit transfer policies and the need for business-savvy professionals in space ventures, especially given the exciting and rapid development of the entrepreneurial commercial space sector.

    In terms of commercial space exploration, Tom discussed SpaceX's Starship and Falcon 9, noting reduced costs, increased reliability, and independence from government funding, driven by Starlink revenues. Starship is expected to revolutionize satellite deployment.

    Tom also covered:

    * Job opportunities in space commerce, particularly for finance and business professionals.

    * The launch of a companion MBA in aerospace and defense management.

    * The risks of poor business management in space startups.

    * The potential and challenges of Helium-3 mining on the moon.

    Tom emphasized future commercial opportunities with lunar and Martian activities, including data centers, AI, tourism, and homesteading. He also addressed technical challenges like spacecraft refueling and the use of lunar oxygen to improve efficiency. Finally, they explored the broader future of space travel, including the potential end of SLS/Orion, rise of private space stations, and NASA's reliance on Starship for future missions. The session concluded with a reiteration of the importance of combining business and technical expertise in building a sustainable space economy.

    Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

    Our Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223

    For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com

    The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:

    To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.

    If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:

    One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135

    Upcoming Programs:

    Broadcast 4415 (Zoom & Live Stream) Dr. Ajay Kothari | Tuesday 12 Aug 2025 200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. Ajay Kothari

    Special time 2 PM PDT, 5 PM EDT: Zoom & Live Stream: Dr. Kothari leads a discussion regarding alternatives & options for lunar return

    Broadcast 4416 Hotel Mars: Andrew Chanin | Wednesday 13 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Andrew Chanin

    Andrew Chanin on commercial space investing, EFTs, IPOs and more

    Friday, August 15: No Program today | Friday 15 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    No program today

    Broadcast 4417 Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 17 Aug 2025 1200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    Open Lines Discussion. We want to hear from you so call 866-687-7223-

    Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:

    Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#

    FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream

    Be sure to check out our Substack page, doctorspace.substack.com.


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    Hotel Mars with Rand Simberg on Artemis, commercial space options and more. Aug 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Hotel Mars with Rand Simberg, August 6, 2025

    John and I, with our guest Rand Simberg, focused this one segment Hotel Mars program on the role of commercial space with regards to our effort to return to the Moon. Rand Simberg explainrd that while NASA's Artemis program includes public-private partnerships with SpaceX and Blue Origin, Congress has been requiring the use of the Space Launch System (SLS) for the past 15 years to maintain jobs and workforce. Rand noted that the SLS program faces significant costs, with each Artemis launch averaging $30 billion. The Administration recommended ending the program after 2 more flights but Congress funded 3 additional flights plus associated hardware and infrastructure in the recently passed Big Beautiful Bill.

    We expressed concerns about the U.S. losing the moon race to China due to the current focus on the Space Launch System (SLS), which Rand believed is not sustainable. He suggested that the money spent on SLS could be redirected to more innovative and affordable space transportation solutions. David also noted that the NASA administrator position remains unfilled, which he sees as a potential obstacle to advancing space exploration goals.

    Before ending our program, Rand discussed the challenges and progress of human lunar lander development, comparing SpaceX and Blue Origin's capabilities. He noted that SpaceX is developing a larger lunar lander but faces uncertainty about refueling on orbit, while Blue Origin's timeline extends to 2030. Rand expressed confidence in SpaceX's ability to make rapid progress once they successfully launch their new version into orbit, addressing concerns about refueling.

    Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

    Our Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223

    For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: drspace@thespaceshow.com

    The Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:

    To donate with Zelle, use the email address: david@onegiantleapfoundation.org.

    If you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:

    One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135

    Upcoming Programs:

    Broadcast 4415 (Zoom & Live Stream) Dr. Ajay Kothari | Tuesday 12 Aug 2025 200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. Ajay Kothari

    Special time 2 PM PDT, 5 PM EDT: Zoom & Live Stream: Dr. Kothari leads a discussion regarding alternatives & options for lunar return

    Broadcast 4416 Hotel Mars: Andrew Chanin | Wednesday 13 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Andrew Chanin

    Andrew Chanin on commercial space investing, EFTs, IPOs and more

    Friday, August 15: No Program today | Friday 15 Aug 2025 930AM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    No program today

    Broadcast 4417 Open Lines Discussion | Sunday 17 Aug 2025 1200PM PT

    Guests: Dr. David Livingston

    Open Lines Discussion. We want to hear from you so call 866-687-7223-

    Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:

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    Ben Roberts and investor facts on space investing with the entrepreneurs, startups, & huge potential global markets. Aug 09, 2025
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    Dr. Space, host of The Space Show, recently hosted a compelling conversation with Ben Roberts, founder and CEO of Skyworker Work Group Finance and Advisory Surfaces LLC. The discussion centered on financing space business entrepreneurs developing health and material products in microgravity. They explored how the unique conditions of space, specifically the absence of gravity—can be leveraged to manufacture advanced materials and medical goods. These include protein crystals for medicines, engineered nanoparticles, 3D-printed cardiac tissue, and accelerated aging models for studying diseases such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s.

    Although the microgravity economy remains in its early stages, with no companies yet achieving significant commercial profitability, several ventures are nearing viability. Experts believe these companies could access substantial markets within the next 3–5 years, once regulatory hurdles are cleared.

    Our guest Ben outlined the foundations of in-space manufacturing. He explained how microgravity eliminates forces like sedimentation and convection, enabling the creation of next-generation materials and technologies that may no longer be feasible to produce on Earth. While the concept has been explored for decades, real progress has emerged only in the past 5–6 years, with more defined use cases nearing commercialization.

    Key applications discussed include:

    * High-quality protein crystals for drug development;

    * Advanced nanoparticles;

    * 3D-printed cardiac tissue;

    * Accelerated aging studies for neurological diseases.

    Ben likened the microgravity economy to the startup ecosystem 15 years ago—rich in innovation and investor interest, but still pre-revenue. He pointed out that many space-based life science companies are close to proving commercial viability. These businesses could tap into eight- or nine-figure markets once they secure regulatory approvals.

    As an example, he cited LambdaVision,a company developing artificial retinas. Initially funded through federal R&D grants, the company now requires relatively modest monthly investments ($25,000–$50,000) to complete clinical trials.

    Ben discussed the broader political and funding environment. While microgravity research is not currently a federal priority, bipartisan coalitions are emerging in Congress. He noted that most ventures are focused on low Earth orbit (LEO), where zero gravity can be achieved without needing to go to cislunar space. The sector remains early in the "hype curve," but Ben was optimistic that commercial breakthroughs—such as personalized cancer treatments—could arrive within 3–5 years, potentially at a fraction of traditional pharmaceutical development costs.

    A listener email from Jane raised the issue of limited awareness among doctors regarding space-based medical solutions, like printing replacement menisci in orbit for people with damaged knees. She also suggested that doctors dismiss such ideas or products thus patients remain in the dark about the progress unless they start internet searches themselves. Ben acknowledged this gap but noted that companies such as Redwire are actively collaborating with medical institutions. Responding to another listener, Jerry, he addressed the uncertain future of the ISS and the coming role of private space stations. Ben suggested that some manufacturing processes may not require constant human presence and could benefit from uncrewed or short-duration orbital platforms.

    Our guest highlighted growing international interest, including from China, in space manufacturing. He noted that many ventures in this sector can operate with relatively modest capital (eight figures), making global partnerships feasible—especially for life sciences applications. Although many U.S. companies are focused on other space segments, the microgravity manufacturing niche is largely populated by small U.S.-based firms. On space tourism, Ben explained that the main obstacle is not technology but the business model. Even with costs dropping from $50 million to $10 million per seat, space tourism remains out of reach for most consumers.

    When I asked our guest how to pitch space ventures such as those we have been talking about to investors, Ben suggested presenting space as a nascent but high-potential industry—akin to early-stage AI or social media. He emphasized the need for honesty about risks while pointing out the sector’s long-term upside. He noted that space ventures can yield high impact, citing efforts to cure blindness or treat degenerative diseases, but they require years of development and significant investment. Once established, however, these companies may enjoy insulation from competition with huge global markets.

    Ben touched on the difficulties of investing in space settlement, suggesting that lunar habitats are not yet commercially viable due to supply chain and infrastructure constraints. He also discussed the high costs and insurance coverage implications of new space-based medical technologies, such as artificial retinas designed to restore vision. He mentioned a cancer drug company that improved its product through microgravity R&D and subsequently saw notable financial returns. Ben noted insurance challenges. For example, how would a commercial company insure its hardware and infrastructure in LEO or on the lunar surface? How would one value it?

    He addressed legal concerns such as property rights in space, particularly in the context of commercial space stations. Questions remain, especially regarding bankruptcy and asset ownership in orbit, but regulators still have time to address these challenges. I noted growing interest from major investment banks, citing Firefly Aerospace’s IPO and its support from institutions in the U.S., U.K., and Germany as evidence that traditional finance is beginning to take space ventures seriously. Our guest had much to say on this matter, the larger, global and powerful banking and investment houses, especially when compared to the angles helping the entrepreneurs raise necessary funding.

    I asked our guest, Ben Roberts, in his conclusion to share insights into investing in space-related startups. He emphasized that these are high-risk, venture-style deals typically available only to accredited investors. He advised against using retirement or college savings for such investments, recommending instead a diversified portfolio approach. Ben offered to connect interested investors with opportunities and recommended sources for updates in these opportunities and markets. Before ending, I asked about investment or entrepreneurial interest in future applications of space technology in veterinary medicine. I was a bit surprised that he said no given how large the vet and pet markets have become, especially in the US and other countries. If anybody out there is listening, perhaps there might be ground flow opportunities looming for those that know what is happening in terrestrial pet and vet markets.

    Listeners interested in learning more or exploring investment opportunities can contact Ben at ben.roberts@piorchard.net.

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    Jess Sponable on VTOL, propulsion, fuels, policy, launches, you name it! Aug 07, 2025
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    Meeting notes for Sponable on Tuesday , August 5, 20245 interview:

    We welcomed back Jess Sponable, who shared his expertise on the feasibility of the Golden Dome defense system, drawing from his experience with DARPA and DCX. Jess explained that while Golden Dome is technically possible, it would require significant software and sensor technology development, and he noted that the US has robust safeguards against nuclear threats. David and Jess briefly touched on the anniversary of the atomic bombings of Japan to end World War II but did not focus on that topic as part of this program. We did briefly discuss the historical context of nuclear weapons and the decision to drop the atomic bomb to end World War II, emphasizing the potential human cost of an invasion of Japan. I expressed gratitude for President Truman's decision, which he believes saved millions of lives. I then shifted the conversation to vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) technology, tracing its origins to science fiction and highlighting key figures like Phil Bono and Max Hunter who advocated for fully reusable VTOL systems.

    Jess discussed the evolution of single-stage-to-orbit and vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) concepts, highlighting early crude designs and the Chrysler Beta space shuttle concept. He shared his experience with the DCX program, which flew a subsonic proof of concept demonstrator for a vertical takeoff, landing Lox hydrogen-powered rocket. Jess noted the advantages of VTOL systems, such as a simple launch complex and rapid turnaround times, and mentioned that technology has improved significantly since then. He also mentioned two ongoing efforts for single-stage-to-orbit horizontal takeoff and landing and discussed various companies, including SpaceX, Blue Origin, Rocket Lab, and Relativity Space, that are working towards 100% reusability in space travel.

    Our guest discussed the reliability and safety of future flight systems, particularly focusing on vertical takeoff and landing vehicles. He compared the engineering challenges of these systems to the development of traditional aircraft, emphasizing the need for reliable engine performance and lightweight designs. David explained that modern rocket engines, with their high thrust-to-weight ratios and simplified designs, could lead to safer and more efficient flight systems in the future.

    Jess talked about the potential of liquid natural gas as a cheap and clean propellant for future space travel and point-to-point transportation systems. He explained that New Frontier Aerospace, his company, is focusing on developing a system that is more reliable and cost-effective than traditional airplanes, with a target of 2-hour travel times to 98% of global destinations. I mentioned that other companies are experimenting & developing point-to-point travel using orbital vehicles. Jess said that his New Frontier Aerospace is developing a different approach that avoids going to orbit, using a throttle-down rocket for long-distance travel. He also noted that their engine is in the final stages of qualification and will be used in both an orbital transfer vehicle and a delta-wing shaped airframe configuration for initial flights.

    Jess proceeded to discuss the noise levels of hypersonic vehicles, explaining that while they would be loud during takeoff, the noise would be minimal at cruising altitude of 160,000 feet, similar to a refrigerator or dishwasher. He noted that flight testing would be necessary to determine exact sound levels, and initial operations might focus on unmanned air vehicles. He also described their orbital transfer vehicle, Bifrost, which can transport payloads between various orbits and lunar orbit, powered by their Maelstrom engine.

    Jess was asked about his company's status as a private, equity and government contract-funded entity. He noted a potential for future public listing but currently focusing on careful growth. He explained that while interns have been considered, the company prioritizes experienced hires due to its early stage and ITAR restrictions on hiring foreign students. David also addressed questions about the DCX hardware, which is now in museums, and clarified that while the company aims to operate from airports rather than spaceports, noise and regulatory concerns need to be addressed with flight test data. He emphasized the importance of operability in system design and distinguished his company's approach from competitors like Boom Aerospace, highlighting its focus on vertical takeoff and landing, lower cost, and potential for both military and commercial markets.

    Jess went on to discuss a small rocket vehicle with 6 feet by 6 feet dimensions, weighing 3,000 pounds and providing 3,000 pounds of thrust, capable of 5 km/s delta-V and carrying 200-400 kg payload from LEO to GEO. He explained that while the vehicle could be scaled up, larger configurations would require higher propellant mass fractions and different tank configurations, with Falcon 9's second stage as an example of a high-performance design at 87-88% propellant fraction. Jess also noted that LOX/LNG is significantly easier to refuel in orbit than LOX/hydrogen, and discussed the possibility of using multiple engines for lunar lander applications, with existing commercial landers demonstrating feasibility on Falcon 9.

    Advancing Space Exploration and Technology

    As we were coming to the close of the program, our guest discussed the progress and challenges in space exploration, highlighting the importance of vertical takeoff and landing systems in the commercial space industry. He expressed optimism about the future of space travel, emphasizing the potential for rapid growth in reusable launch systems and the role of NASA in facilitating this progress. He also addressed the development of nuclear fusion, noting that while significant breakthroughs are still years away, commercial investment in the field is encouraging. He concluded by advocating for continued innovation and collaboration between the private sector and government agencies to advance space exploration and technology.

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    Michael Gorton with his SCI-Fi Series, "The Tachyon Tunnel" plus physics, theoretical propulsion, Black Holes & space survival issues. Aug 06, 2025
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    Dr. Livingston introduced Michael Gordon, a serial entrepreneur, author, and digital health innovator, known for co-founding Teladoc and developing VoIP telephone lines. Michael shared his background in space physics, including his graduate work on the magnetosphere and involvement in the Hayley's comet probe project. He discusses his Tachyon Tunnel sci fi book series, which explores the concept of using tachyons to build tunnels for faster-than-light travel, addressing the challenges of interstellar travel without requiring infinite energy.

    Michael discussed his science fiction series, the Tachyon Tunnel Series, which explores human drama and interaction in the galaxy. He explained that the series, inspired by authors like Robert Heinlein, Asimov, and Andy Weir, follows characters who use tachyon tunnels to travel across the galaxy, discovering an existing network built by an unknown civilization. He described the series' themes, including the struggle against an evil empire and the mystery of who built the tachyon tunnel system. He also touched on the plausibility of tachyon tunnels in real life, noting that they would allow for rapid interstellar travel.

    Michael talked about his belief in the potential for tachyon tunnels as a method for intergalactic travel, emphasizing their superiority over wormholes due to the immense gravitational forces required for wormholes, which would be destructive. He referenced the book "Gravitation" by Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler, highlighting the current understanding of gravity and its limitations, while also mentioning the challenges of reproducing and raising children in space, a topic he plans to address in his third book. Michael also touched on the evolution of science fiction, praising the work of Roddenberry and Asimov for their realistic visions of the future, and discussed the potential for simulated gravity in space using centrifuges and constant acceleration.

    Our guest talked about future space travel and settlement, emphasizing the development of tachyon-like travel and interstellar flight, as well as the establishment of large cities in Lagrange points. He highlighted the need to address challenges like microgravity and radiation protection in space environments. Michael also noted the shift from government-led space exploration to private enterprise, predicting that capitalism will drive the next generation of space explorers and settlers. He addressed a caller's question about space farming, suggesting a combination of farming and food replicators in space cities, while acknowledging the challenges of long-duration space travel to distant stars.

    Michael also discussed his book series, which is available on Amazon, and mentioned that the second book has won six awards and was a bestseller. He explained his writing process, which involves parallel editing and a print-on-demand system. David also addressed questions about tachyons, the Fermi paradox, and the possibility of future technologies for interstellar communication, suggesting that quantum entanglement might play a role in future travel and communication methods.

    We discussed the concept of "spooky action at a distance" in physics, comparing it to the behavior of identical twins, and listener John mentioned a conversation with a physicist friend who humorously equated dark energy with the Holy Spirit. Michael also shared insights about plasma, its role in the universe, and a book titled "A New Science of Heaven" by Robert Temple, which explores the speculative nature of plasma self-organization. Michael encouraged us to read the book for a new perspective on definitions. Additionally, he addressed a physics student's question about confirming the existence of tachyons, suggesting that the task would be better suited for young theoretical physicists and expressing interest in any creative ideas they might propose.

    Our guest also discussed the rapid advancements in space technology and exploration, highlighting the exponential growth in capabilities over the next few decades. He mentioned meeting Buzz Aldrin, who noted that current devices have more power than the computers used during the Apollo missions. David predicted significant progress in space travel, including returning to the moon and potentially heading to Mars within 5-6 years, driven by companies like SpaceX. He also touched on the potential for new AI technologies to solve complex problems and the theoretical concept of imaginary mass particles with real energy, though no such particles have been detected yet.

    Caller John, a retired mathematician and aerospace worker, discussed his interest in science and physics, particularly through the Space Show. Michael expressed a desire to meet John, who David said was one of his informal science teachers, and mentioned his belief in the possibility of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth. David also touched on the challenges of discussing controversial topics like the Fermi Paradox and UFO sightings, noting the difficulty in separating rational evidence from nonsense. Finally, he reflected on the persistence of conspiracy theories, such as the moon landing and flat Earth beliefs, and expressed frustration at the lack of evidence to prove the negative of such claims.

    David read a listener email from Grok suggesting that tachyons, particles moving faster than light, might emit a form of Cherenkov radiation and could be detected in particle accelerators. He also shared an email from Todd asking about his book writing process, where he explained that he outlines the general storyline of the third book while writing the second, with the science and human drama being key elements of his storytelling.

    Black Holes and Space Exploration.

    Michael then discussed the role of black holes in his upcoming books, explaining that while they are relevant, they are not a major part of the current story. He also explored the concept of tachyon tunnels and the potential challenges of emerging from them in space, emphasizing the importance of mapping safe exit points. David shared insights on the current state of space debris and the efforts to clean it up. Michael compared the sparsity of objects in space to the density of people on Earth. He expressed interest in creating an audio version of his books and mentioned plans to follow up with the host regarding the release of Book 3.

    Before ending, Michael shared a personal story about his friend Charlie Duke, who was the lunar module pilot on Apollo 16 and one of only four living people who walked on the moon. He described Charlie's authentic and heartfelt stories about his moon landing experience, including an anecdote about attempting a lunar high jump that was cut short when NASA discovered the incident through a camera.

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    John Batchelor Hotel Mars with Megan Masterson regarding JWST, dormant blackholes and finding TDEs. Aug 01, 2025
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    Megan Masterson presented research on tidal disruption events (TDEs) observed using the James Webb Space Telescope, which has revealed previously dormant black holes becoming active and providing insights into their environmental effects. The discussion covered the physics of TDEs, including their impact on surrounding gas and dust, as well as the challenges of studying dormant black holes and their relationship with galaxy size. The conversation concluded with a discussion about the limitations of current telescopes, the importance of time-domain astronomy, and the potential impact of the Golden Dome project on the space industry.

    Megan, a graduate student at MIT's Kavli Institute for Astrophysics and Space Research, discussed the discovery of tidal disruption events (TDEs) using data from the James Webb Space Telescope. These events occur when a star is torn apart by a supermassive black hole's tidal forces, producing a temporary flare of emission as the material is consumed. The James Webb Space Telescope's ability to detect these events in the infrared band has revealed previously dormant black holes becoming active, providing insights into the effects of these events on the surrounding environment. Megan spent the first part of the program explaining this subject and the fact that JWST had actually confirmed a long standing theory.

    David asked Megan about the real time today effects of TDEs from 130 million light years away. Megan explained that intense radiation from matter being dumped onto black holes would strip electrons from atoms, ionizing gas and blowing dust to shreds, creating a cavity with little dust and hot ionized gas. She described this as a cocoon or shell of hot dust that the James Webb Space Telescope observes. John also inquired about dormant black holes, something Megan clarified that they are not actively accreting material from their surroundings. Megan explained how most blackholes are studied through accretion, noting that dormant black holes are challenging to observe. She discussed the correlation between galaxy size and black hole mass, suggesting a symbiotic relationship between them. She also touched on the James Webb Space Telescope's role in studying black hole growth and the mysteries surrounding their formation and dormancy.

    John mentioned a new paper on black holes with Megan Masterson, highlighting the surprising rapid timescales of their activity despite expectations of PhD-level timescales. M mentioned working with a team including Kara, Christina Ellis, and Kisha Dean from California University, along with collaborators from other institutions. John went on to announce that in the second part of the program Megan would be given an unlimited budget to make the next best decision following this discovery. Megan told us what she would with such an unlimited budget.

    Megan discussed the limitations of the James Webb Space Telescope's field of view and the need for multiple missions to survey the sky in different wavelength bands, particularly in X-rays. She emphasized the importance of time-domain astronomy for understanding astrophysical phenomena and black hole growth. She also touched on the potential impact of the Golden Dome project on the space industry and defense stocks, noting that while some are optimistic about the funding it could provide, others are skeptical about cost overruns.

    AI can make mistakes.

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