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E67 Sorrow, Sin, and Covenant. God's unending mercy even in the midst of destruction and sorrow (Jeremiah 31-39) Oct 25, 2026

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Join us for an incredible cruise with amazing spiritual momentum where you hear from Elaine Dalton, myself, Jasen Wade, Kirby Heyborne, Jenny Oaks Baker, Nathan Pacheco, and more. You can get $50 of for each person with the discount code KERRY. Go to https://www.goanddotravel.com/momentu... and join right away!

Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: https://www.patreon.com/cw/EnlightenEdgeEDU/membership. This week on Patreon Kerry goes through some of the most powerful images Jeremiah uses, and why it would be so powerful for Judah and how it can reach and teach you.

In this episode Kerry and George Pierce discuss how the Lord extends his mercy to Israel as they have failed to repent. Because of His covenant, He promises Israel another chance, where they can learn to be turned by God, turn to God and receive a new heart and a new covenant. They look at how God will nurture and shepherd His people in their adversity. They also look at the message of hope God sent through Jeremiah when He asked Jeremiah to buy a field because one day they will have the chance to use that land again. Then Kerry and Rabbi Jarrod Grover look at Lamentations. They explore the cries over destroyed Jerusalem and what we can learn from that. In particular, Rabbi Grover discusses how Jews use those Lamentations as a time to mourn, to sit with the sorrow that follows destruction and feel it and learn from it.

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E66 Led, Nurtured and Molded: God pleading with Judah through Jeremiah (Jereimah 1-20) Oct 18, 2026

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In this episode Kerry discusses the specific mission the Lord gave Jeremiah. He talks about how this teaches us what the Lord wants to have happen to us based on that call. He also talks about how the Lord warned Jeremiah that his ministry would be hard. Then Kerry and Dr. George Pierce discuss Jeremiah's call further, They talk about how the Lord uses word play to illustrate that the punishment of Judah is coming quickly. After that Kerry discusses some of the most powerful images Jeremiah uses as he warns Judah of what they are doing wrong by using Judah's experience with drought to help them feel alarmed. These images carry amazing messages for us as well. Then Then George leads us through the message the Lord has for all of us as he guides Judah through what he wants of them and us: change our ways, keep the law with pure intent, keep covenant, and let God direct and mold us. They also look at how the Lord will sometimes have to break us to get us to go the right way, which is what Kerry had said Jeremiah's call was about in the first place.

E65 Anointed to Deliver: Christ, Jubilee and Judgment with Sister Reyna Aburto and Robert Millet Oct 11, 2026

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Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: https://www.patreon.com/cw/EnlightenEdgeEDU/membership. This week on Patreon Kerry will help you see more clearly what Isaiah 52 is about and will offer some Hebrew insights into that chapter and 53, along with other insights.

In this episode Kerry discusses the how there is a turning point in Isaiah 58 and 59 that goes beyond the topics of those chapters. It is about going from rejecting God to keeping His law with real intent and purity of heart. Then Kerry and Sister Reyna Aburto discuss Isaiah 61 and how the Savior uses the beginning of that chapter when He introduces Himself as the Messiah in the synagogue at Nazareth. They talk about how the prophecy is a Jubilee prophecy, and how Christ fulfills the symbolism and how much more we understand about Christ because of this chapter. Then Kerry and Robert Millet discuss Isaiah 63 and how it teaches about both Christ's suffering in the Meridien of time and about His coming to deliver us from oppression at the Second Coming.

The Captive Daughter and the Suffering Servant: how you are both and what to do now (Isaiah 50-57) Oct 04, 2026

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In this episode Kerry discusses the pivotal role that Isaiah 52 plays in the Book of Mormon and our understanding of Christ's atoning sacrifice. He also briefly discusses how to understand Isaiah 52 in light of Isaiah 47. Then he and Dr. Daniel Belnap discuss how Isaiah 52 draws on both Exodus and Babylon imagery as well as traveling in the wilderness imagery. They also discuss how it prepares us for Christ's second coming and how it can see us through times of uncertainty and how to deal with things we can't control because of Christ's redemption. They talk about the necessity of staying with the camp of Zion to have peace and redemption. Then Kerry and Dr. Paul Hoskisson talk about the transition from chapters 52 and 53 and how the transition verses that speak of a triumphal and suffering servant work well in both verses. Dr. Hoskisson walks us through how the "marred" servant can mean the anointed servant or the blemished servant. They explore how Christ is both a suffering servant and a triumphal king. Then Kerry and Rabbi Grover examine together Isaiah 53 and how the suffering servant is both Christ and Israel. They look at the idea of a messiah and redeemer in general and and what it means for Jews and what it means to be an anointed one and all the people in the Bible that were anointed ones. They delve into what it means for Israel to be a suffering servant and what it means for a redeeming messiah to be a suffering servant. They look at the original context and how both Jews and Latter-day Saints fulfill the imagery in the passage. They explore the shared suffering of those two groups and how both groups have a task to bring the Lord and His redemption to the world. Rabbi Grover shares his experiences about learning of LDS suffering and the affect it had on him. Then Dr. John Howell and Kerry look at Isaiah 54 and how it teaches us of God's hesed for us. They see the way it follows and interacts with Isaiah 53. They also look at how the Book of Mormon helps us understand it, especially the time markers in the text. They examine how God takes away shame and makes us new and ready to move forward in a relationship with God, the most powerful creator. They look at how we forsake God but He accepts us back, and the incredible imagery of His unmovableness in waiting for us.

E 63 Who is God's Servant? Isaiah tutoring on Israel, your service, and Christ (Isaiah 40-49) Sep 27, 2026

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Join us for an incredible cruise with amazing spiritual momentum where you hear from Elaine Dalton, myself, Jasen Wade, Kirby Heyborne, Jenny Oaks Baker, Nathan Pacheco, and more. During July you can get $250 off for the second person, and $50 of for each person with the discount code KERRY. Go to https://www.goanddotravel.com/momentu... and join right away!

Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: / enlightenedgeedu . This week on Patreon Kerry will help you see more of Isaiah's poetic ability and how it helps you understand how you should be gathering Israel.

In this episode Kerry and Dr. Kent Jackson explore the issue of who wrote all of Isaiah, and whether there are multiple authors in Isaiah. Then they explore some of Isaiah's teachings about idolatry and the redemption of Israel and the recovery of Israel and God's salvation for Israel. They also talk about the prophecy that is at least partially fulfilled in John the Baptist. They look at God's teachings of comfort for His people. Then they talk about who God's servant is, and how it is both Israel and Christ. Then Kerry and Heidi Smith also discuss passages about the servant. They also look at how Isaiah 49 is used in the Book of Mormon. They look at how we must not be in bondage to the natural man, and how Christ delivers us from bondage. They look at how we must not be in bondage to the natural man, and how Christ delivers us from bondage, and how our fallen natures and the world/Babylon brings us into bondage.

E 62 Nails in Sure Places, the Savior with a Sword, & the Fall of Satan: your Isaiah tutoring in crucial issues Sep 20, 2026

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Join us for an incredible cruise with amazing spiritual momentum where you hear from Elaine Dalton, myself, Jasen Wade, Kirby Heyborne, Jenny Oaks Baker, Nathan Pacheco, and more. During July you can get $250 off for the second person, and $50 of for each person with the discount code KERRY. Go to https://www.goanddotravel.com/momentu... and join right away!

Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: / enlightenedgeedu . This week on Patreon Kerry will help you develop understand what the phrase "line upon line and precept upon precept" really means and why it makes a big difference for you!

In this episode Kerry and Dr. Paul Hoskisson as they help you understand the way Isaiah sets and solves a puzzle for you as he helps you learn about Babylon and Satan at the same time, and how you can get more out of Isaiah 14 that way. Dr. Shon Hopkin and Kerry explain to you what Isaiah means when he talks about a servant who is a nail in a sure place and what that has to do with saving Jerusalem and thus what it means in your life. Then Kerry talks about how the Savior wipe away all tears because He is triumphant over enemies, and why we want this kind of Savior.

E61 Tutoring You in Isaiah: the scholars who will open insights and help you develop skills (Isaiah 1-12) Sep 13, 2026

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Join us for an incredible cruise with amazing spiritual momentum where you hear from Elaine Dalton, myself, Jasen Wade, Kirby Heyborne, Jenny Oaks Baker, Nathan Pacheco, and more. During July you can get $250 off for the second person, and $50 of for each person with the discount code KERRY. Go to https://www.goanddotravel.com/momentu ... and join right away!

Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: / enlightenedgeedu . This week on Patreon Kerry will help you develop more skills in understanding Isaiah. He will help you understand elements of chapters you have always wondered about and have probably misunderstood.

In this episode Kerry and Dr. Kent Jackson explore how to understand poetry in the Old Testament so that you can get more out of Isaiah. This will be a key to helping you get more out of Isaiah. Then Kerry discusses Isaiah chapter 1 and how it is a preface that is designed to prepare you for the entire book. It is set in a specific historical context at the time of the near destruction of Jerusalem, and Kerry helps you see what it has to teach you about Isaiah and about yourself and your relationship with God. He also teaches a bit about multiple fulfillment prophecies and how historical context can help you understand Isaiah. Then Kerry and Dr. John Howell discuss Isaiah's call in Isaiah 6 and the symbols that bring that story to life. Then Kerry and Shon Hopkin talk about Isaiah 11 and what we can learn about it from Joseph Smith's revelations, but also what we can learn about it from the traditional Christian interpretation and how they work together and how they teach us about Christ and about the Restoration and the great work we are invovled in.

E60 What Is a Prophet Then, What Is a Prophet Now? Thinking About Prophets in Our Lives with Andrew Skinner and Josh Matson Sep 06, 2026

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Join us for a workshop on Isaiah for as low as $39. For more information email TheScripturesAreReal@gmail.com

Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: / enlightenedgeedu . This week on Patreon Kerry discusses how Proverbs and other Israelite Wisdom Literature are similar to and different from other cultures around them, and how the difference is the key and will bring us power in our lives. They specifically look at what it means to fear the Lord, what that should look like in our lives, and how it and trusting in God rather than man can make a divine difference in our lives.

Join us for an incredible cruise with amazing spiritual momentum where you hear from Elaine Dalton, myself, Jasen Wade, Kirby Heyborne, Jenny Oaks Baker, Nathan Pacheco, and more. During July you can get $250 off for the second person, and $50 of for each person with the discount code KERRY. Go to https://www.goanddotravel.com/momentu ... and join right away!

In this episode Kerry Drs. Andrew Skinner and Josh Matson explore what the word prophet meant in the Old Testament and how we see them function in that book of scripture. They compare the difference between how Latter-day Saints think of the word and how we find it used in the Old Testament. They look at how important it is in all times to listen to prophets. They explore the power of prophets. They explore the necessity of prophets and impress upon us the gift of having prophets. They also talk about the lonely burden of prophets and the companion that prophets can be for us.

E59 Wisdom Distilled from God Explained by Scholars and a Rabbi (Proverbs & Ecclesiastes) Sep 06, 2026

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Join us for a workshop on Isaiah for as low as $39. For more information email TheScripturesAreReal@gmail.com

Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: https://www.patreon.com/c/EnlightenEdgeEDU . This week on Patreon Kerry discusses how Proverbs and other Israelite Wisdom Literature are similar to and different from other cultures around them, and how the difference is the key and will bring us power in our lives. They specifically look at what it means to fear the Lord, what that should look like in our lives, and how it and trusting in God rather than man can make a divine difference in our lives.

Join us for an incredible cruise with amazing spiritual momentum where you hear from Elaine Dalton, myself, Jasen Wade, Kirby Heyborne, Jenny Oaks Baker, Nathan Pacheco, and more. During July you can get $250 off for the second person, and $50 of for each person with the discount code KERRY. Go to https://www.goanddotravel.com/momentum-27-west-2 and join right away!

In this episode Kerry and Dr. Josh Matson discuss Wisdom Literature in general and what we can get out of it and how. Then Kerry and Dr. Michael Biggerstaff talk about Proverbs in general and the major themes and what the book says about itself and how to gain from it. They discuss the theme of fear of the Lord in the book of Proverbs, as well as the theme of wisdom. They help us understand what it may really mean. They dive into how wisdom from God makes us and then makes a difference in our lives, and how God's patience and longsuffering with us is shown in the Book of Proverbs. Then Rabbi Joe Charnes joins the podcast to go a bit more into depth with Proverbs 1 and Proverbs 15. They look at a Jewish point of view of wisdom and how we can be guided more deeply by gaining wisdom from Proverbs and Wisdom Literature in general. Finally Kerry explains what is happening in Ecclesiastes and how it teaches us about the emphasis we should have in life and the need to think celestial and put the eternal first and spend only appropriate time on the fleeting, or the things of the world.

E58 Nathan Pacheco, Jenny Oaks Baker & Rabbi Grover on the Power of God in the Psalms to Our Lives (Psalm 102-150) Aug 30, 2026

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Join us for a workshop on Isaiah for as low as $39. For more information email TheScripturesAreReal@gmail.com

Join us for fantastic content on our Patreon website: https://www.patreon.com/c/EnlightenEdgeEDU . This week on Patreon Kerry and Ryan Davis explore one of the most powerful Psalms and what it teaches about God and Hesed (God's covenantal love, mercy, and loyalty).

Join us for an incredible cruise with amazing spiritual momentum where you hear from Elaine Dalton, myself, Jasen Wade, Kirby Heyborne, Jenny Oaks Baker, Nathan Pacheco, and more. During July you can get $250 off for the second person, and $50 of for each person with the discount code KERRY. Go to https://www.goanddotravel.com/momentum-27-west-2 and join right away!

In this episode Kerry and Jenny Oaks Baker explore how music brings power into our lives and thus how we can draw more power out of the Psalms. Jenny shares some stories from her family and life and how it combines with music to bless her life. Then Kerry and Dr. Paul Hoskisson explore names of God, Christ, and others in the scriptures, especially the Psalms, to help us gain more meaning from them. They specifically look at how Jesus used Psalm 110 to teach about who He is, for both the pharisees and us. Then Kerry and Nathan Pacheco talk about Psalm 127 and how we need the Lord to build anything in our lives. Nathan shares how this helped him in his work and career. They talk about how important that is in our families and children being a heritage from the Lord. They explore what it means that children are a heritage from the Lord, a phrase used in Psalm 127 that is also used in the Proclamation on the Family. Then Kerry and Rabbi Jarrod Grover discuss the Hillel Psalms, which were probably psalms that the Savior sang with His apostles just before going to Gethsemane. The Rabbi brings out a small insight from the Hebrew text for several of those psalms, helping us understand them better and the Savior better.

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