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    The Sales Evangelist

    I believe in doing BIG THINGS! You should be earning 6 figures easily as a sales rep. But chances are you are not…yet! Sales is the most important department in every company but many sellers are never taught how to effectively sell, much less how to earn their way to high-income status. My own career limped along until a company I worked for invested in sales training to help me succeed. Immediately afterward, I closed a deal worth 4X what the company spent on me and saw hockey-stick improvement in my performance. So I started a podcast to “Evangelize” what was working.

    Today I interview the world’s best sales experts, successful sellers, sales leaders and entrepreneurs who share their strategies to succeed in sales right now: folks like Jeffrey Gitomer, Jill Konrath, Bob Burg, and Guy Kawasaki to name a few. They share actionable insights and stories that will encourage, challenge, and motivate you to hustle your way to top income status. If you’re someone looking to take off in your sales career and earn the income you deserve, hit subscribe and let’s start doing BIG THINGS!

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    The 3 C's Of Effective Selling Framework | Luke Lunkenheimer - 1878 Mar 07, 2025
    Show notes

    One of the biggest mistakes new salespeople make is winging it, even after receiving training. This is going to have you leaving lots of money on the table, and the only way to turn this around is by developing a framework that actually works.

    My guest, Luke Lunkenheimer, is going to share the 3 C’s Selling framework that’ll change your mindset to improve your sales game. Give it a listen; it may even help you in other areas of your life!

    Meet Luke Lunkenheimer

    • Luke grew up as a regular guy from a small town and started out in the industry as a car salesman. For years, he did not live up to his full potential in the sales industry, losing unnecessary money. He finally figured out what he was doing wrong.
    • After developing his new sales approach, he realized that you need a certain mindset and values in order to make it in this industry, which he is going to share with you in this episode.
    • Now, Luke is a successful entrepreneur, owning the Paid 2 Persuade sales training platform that is transforming and empowering sales teams to achieve lasting success.

    What is the 3 C’s Selling Framework?

    • Luke shares that the sales framework isn’t something that provides a step-by-step introduction to closing a deal. Instead, it helps you differentiate a leading sales professional from someone who just does it to get a paycheck.
    • The framework is also the foundation of what he teaches in his Paid 2 Persuade sales training course. It includes:
    • Content: From the time of saying hello in a sales conversation, you need to know what you’re trying to accomplish right now. Are you trying to get them to buy a product from you, or are you trying to change their way of thinking?
    • Confidence: Sales is the act of transferring your certainty onto the client. The only way you can do this successfully is by having a high level of confidence as a sales representative.
    • Cadence: Start role-playing, practice your sales skills, and educate yourself on how to become better. Once you get into your rhythm, it’ll help you with being uncomfortable and push yourself to do better.

    How to Create Your Own Sales Framework

    • If you prefer not to use Luke’s framework, creating your own is simple. He shared some advice on how to do this:
    • Self-education: Don’t think that because you’re not in school anymore, you should stop learning, especially in this industry. Read books or take courses to help improve your sales skills.
    • Endure pain and get comfortable: If you haven’t realized already, in this industry you’re going to have to get used to being uncomfortable. Nothing stays the same. The key is to adapt to the change and figure out how you can do better.
    • If you’re brand new and don’t want to spend any money, implement your own framework by tallying up all of the objections you have faced already and practice how you can overcome them. It’s a good idea to practice this with your coworkers to become better at this.
    • With your next customer, build rapport with them and then get into inquiries to see if the objections you were having are present in this conversation. This can help you solve the objections immediately, instead of at the end of the call.

    “You need to invest in yourself. Nothing is more important than spending money to get better. When you see something that is different from everything else, the logical conclusion is that it is.” - Luke Lunkenheimer.

    Resources

    Want to improve your sales skills? Consider taking the Paid 2 Persuade training course.

    Connect and follow Luke on Instagram, X, and LinkedIn.

    Grab Dale Carnegie's book, “How to Win Friends and Influence People,” to build your conversational skills.

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single

    platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at

    hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your

    emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    4 Simple Ways To Become The Most Known & Trusted In Your Industry | Marcus Sheridan - 1877 Mar 03, 2025
    Show notes

    I had to do it again and bring back Marcus Sheridan for another episode. Today, we’re going over details of his new book, “Endless Customer,” and he's going to share four ways to make your brand the most trusted in the industry.

    Background on The Newest Book

    • After the rise of AI tools, Marcus noticed a major change in the sales industry. It’s getting harder and harder to produce content that will generate leads. Also, those who are not using AI technology in some form within their work are struggling the most now.
    • On top of this, companies are having a harder time gaining consumer trust, all thanks to the advancement of AI.
    • This is why Marcus wrote the "Endless Customer" book! To generate leads and to shine through AI, you’re going to have to become a well-known and trusted brand, which you can do with the help of his guidance.

    How Can You Make Yourself Stand Out

    • If you’ve noticed, not too many people are using Google nowadays. Also, when you search on Google, a lot of AI answers or Reddit posts pop up too.
    • Stop caring so much about keywords and instead start telling AI why you need to be trusted. Marcus shares that you can do this through the four pillars in his book:
      • You have to be willing to say what others are not in your market.
      • Get serious with video content and do what others are not.
      • Sell in a way that others are not.
      • You have to be more human than other brands.

    • In other words, stop following your industry’s set rules and disrupt. Put a personality into your brand and do things that no one else is willing to do.
    • Marcus also shares how sales reps and industry leaders can get out of a pride cycle that they often put themselves in without knowing.

    The Five Key Consumer Research Factors

    • The one thing that did not change from the "They Ask, You Answer" book is how consumers conduct research on which company they want to buy from. The five subjects they’re still researching are:
      • Cost
      • Problem
      • Comparison
      • Reviews
      • Best

    • These five things apply to whatever type of content you’re making. This includes written and video content for your social media strategy.

    Human Connection Matters More

    • The only way you’re going to be able to rise above in this new AI-driven world is by connecting to your customers’ emotions. This is why video content is becoming more and more popular; they want to see brands before buying from them.
    • Another popular trend is that people are wanting more of a seller-free sales experience, especially on websites. Marcus shares how to do this while keeping the human connection alive.

    "Brand matters more than it ever has in the history of the world. Because if you think about it, what's going on in the market? Well, businesses are getting fewer Google searches every single day right now. You cannot build your house on Google search." - Marcus Sheridan.

    Resources

    Connect with Marcus Sheridan on LinkedIn

    Listen to the Endless Customers Podcast and Get the book here

    Visit Marcus website to learn more about him

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    The Go Giver! | Bob Burg - 1876 Feb 28, 2025
    Show notes

    I’m giving you another rerun again. Yes, I know, but you’re going to love this episode with my guest Bob Burg, who is an expert sales leader and author with a real go-giver attitude. Listen to this live episode to get the right mindset to help you get prospects.

    Meet Bob Burg

    • Bob Burg is a salesman who has written a series of books about The Go-Giver, a parable about the principles behind the kind of success most sellers are hoping to achieve.

    • After spending some time in the sales industry, he realized that he wasn’t living up to his potential.

    • Until one day he had a conversation with another salesman and recalling how his parents worked to make other’s lives better, it hit him.

    • Instead of trying to meet quota, Bob shifts his focus on how he can serve others, and his reward happens to be more money coming into his pockets.

    • Great salesmanship is about the other person and how they’ll benefit from your product or service.


    Focus on Value

    • People aren't going to buy from you because you need to meet quota or because you’re a nice person. They are going to buy from you because they’ll be better off after they do.

    • Salespeople need to focus on bringing value to the prospect’s life. Value comes first, and the money you receive is a natural result of the value you provided.


    Value Without Attachment

    • Although people often suggest you should give without expecting anything in return, Bob doesn’t exactly agree with that. Instead, give value without attachment to the result.

    • If you’re in business serving other people, you should expect to profit greatly because you’re bringing value to the marketplace. Just don’t be attached to that result.

    • Give value because it’s who you are and what you do. When that happens, you create a benevolent context for success. You develop great relationships with people who feel good about you.


    Communicating Value

    • Bob shares how sales reps can communicate value to prospects through these five elements:

      • Excellence

      • Consistency

      • Attention

      • Empathy

      • Appreciation


    • To the degree that you can communicate these things to your customer, that’s the degree to which you take price and competition out of the picture.


    “Money is the thunder to lightning’s value. The value comes first.” - Bob Burg.

    Resources

    Listen to Bob Burg’s The Go-Giver Podcast for more mindset tips.

    Join the Sales Foundation Course for a blueprint to closing more deals.

    Grab Bob Burg’s The Go-Giver book set.

    Another book discussed in this episode was Everybody Matters by Bob Chapman.

    Connect with Bob Burg on Facebook and LinkedIn

    Also, don’t forget to visit his website.

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.


    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.


    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.


    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    My Company Hates Me! | Donald Kelly - 1875 Feb 24, 2025
    Show notes

    You started working at a new company, and on the outside everything seems great. But when it comes time to find leads, everyone completely ghosts you. Even the management-level employees are nowhere to be found.

    It kind of makes you feel like everyone hates you. I have experienced the same situation, and I’m here to share some tips to help you out when you start a new sales position and it seems like no one can help you get started.

    Find People Close to Your Proximity

    • If you’re struggling with finding leads, consider getting on LinkedIn and network with your connections who are close to your ICP.
    • I share a strategy that I teach in my LinkedIn prospecting course. It’s a neat sales trick that works every single time, only when they know you already!
    • You can also ask your proximity connections how they can give you insights on getting leads if my first strategy doesn’t work for you.

    Target Accounts

    • When you have an understanding of those who can potentially buy from you, you can focus on your ICP and target those accounts.
    • Per week, find two to three accounts within a specific organization that are a part of your ICP.

    Tier 2 Outreach Campaign

    • As an individual sales rep, you may not be able to do a full cold outreach campaign. But you can use tools to help you do one on a smaller scale.
    • I share how you can use FullEnrich to find emails and phone numbers of your prospects.

    "The best time to find a job is when you have a job. So if you have a job and it’s stable, it might be a good idea to look to see what’s out there. Just make sure you maintain longevity in your current position before searching." - Donald Kelly.

    Resources

    Book more appointments with our LinkedIn Prospecting Course

    Test out FullEnrich to find more clients

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    The Psychology of Persuasion | Christian Jack - 1874 Feb 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Sometimes it's better to break the script and listen to what your client is saying when trying to close a deal. In today’s episode, I chatted with Christian Jack, founder of the Sales Dojo and a master of influence, about why it’s important for sellers to understand the psychology of persuasion. He breaks down how the human mind works when sellers become too pushy and how agents can overcome this challenge.

    Meet Christian Jack

    • Christian Jack is a highly respected sales coach and growth consultant with a proven ability to scale businesses to multiple eight figures.
    • He provides fractional CRO services, one-on-one coaching, and tailored sales training that empower professionals and entrepreneurs to achieve sustainable growth.
    • His practical, personalized approach enables clients to maximize their influence, boost performance, and achieve long-term

    Sales Is All About Connecting The Dots

    • You want to be a top-performing agent, but to get there, you need to understand that it’s not about meeting goals or persuading someone to make a decision.
    • Sales is about helping prospects connect the dots and showing them that you’re the right person to help them.
    • Three points can help prospects connect the dots before you try to persuade them: verbal communication, non-verbal communication, and listening to get them to open up.

    Verbal Communication Comes Last

    • You may think that people convey verbal messages first; however, this is far from the truth.
    • Christian breaks down how the human mind conveys verbal communication last due to its two subsets.
    • He also explains how the social mask works when it comes to how we communicate our words to others.

    Non-Verbal Communication Comes First

    • Do a quick search online for images of mammalian and reptilian brains. Pay attention to the neocortex, or frontal lobe, of each, and you'll notice that the reptilian brain is all about survival.
    • However, the mammalian brain is all about processing information. Of course, the human brain has a larger frontal lobe than other mammals, and this is why we process non-verbal communication first.
    • Christian shares how you can use this in a sales context to better convey your message to prospective customers.

    Listening To Get Customers To Open Up

    • Have you ever had a customer who wouldn't open up no matter how much you tried?
    • This may be because they feel unsafe around sales representatives due to a past experience.
    • Christian shares how breaking the regular sales script and listening to what the customer has to say can help them stop being closed off with you.

    “When you become more successful in sales, you realize that it's not really about sales. It's not about persuading someone else. It's about helping them connect the dots and being someone who can help them do that.” - Christian Jack.

    Resources

    Christian’s special gift

    Get in touch with Christian on Facebook

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    Your Selling To The Wrong Problem | Denise Murtha Bachmann - 1873 Feb 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Staying curious is one of the top skills a sales professional must have in order to succeed in this industry. But why is it so important? My guest, Denise Murtha Bachmann, a sales coach and founder of the Sellovatorz programs, is here to tell you about it in this episode. She's going to share how to flawlessly conduct a discovery call and get to the root cause of a problem to help close a deal.

    Meet Denise Murtha Bachmann

    • Denise Murtha Bachmann is a sales strategist, coach, and fractional sales leader who helps businesses humanize their sales approach while leveraging AI for smarter selling.
    • With a deep focus on relationships, curiosity, and uncovering the probable root cause, she empowers sales teams and founders to build predictable pipelines and close more deals with authenticity.
    • Through her Sellovatorz programs Denise is redefining modern sales by balancing cutting-edge technology with the human touch buyers demand.

    Take a Step Back and Slow Down

    • Most sellers try to rush through the sales process to hurry up and close the deal.
    • However, Denise shares that it's better to slow down and ask prospects questions to learn their root problem.
    • Prospective buyers know they have a problem and want a solution to it. But if sellers take the time to help them identify the root cause of the problem, prospects will realize that money isn’t a problem when it comes to fixing it.
    • When you give them the ability to see that you’re trying to solve the bigger problem, you build a connection with them, which builds trust and credibility with your clients. Working together will help them see that you care about them and make them want to continue through the sales process.

    Prepare Yourself Before The Call

    • Denise shares that before you jump on a call with a client, you should take the time to educate yourself about them. Here are some things you can do before your discovery call:
    • Have your discovery questions ready.
    • Decide on the difference between a good call and a great call.
    • Understand the client you’re looking at: What is their problem and buyer persona? You can use AI tools to help you study your client better.

    Sales Process Role-Playing

    • Denise and I do some sales role-playing of a startup company competing for the SMB space against HubSpot.
    • I act as the founder, and she guides me through the process by asking questions to help me understand my root problem and how I can compete in this competitive industry.
    • For sales leaders, Denise shares the biggest takeaway to help you determine the root cause for prospects: Lead with a mindset that you have to slow down to speed up. Let go of the metrics and focus on quality over quantity to meet sales goals.

    "I think that as leaders and sales representatives, we're constantly on the go because we have metrics to meet. However, in today's sales environment, we need to let go of those metrics and focus on quality over quantity." - Denise Murtha Bachmann.

    Resources

    Get in touch with Denise on LinkedIn Sellovatorz

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    The Three Value Conversations | Tim Riesterer - 1872 Feb 14, 2025
    Show notes

    We are going old school today. I’m sharing a past episode of my conversation with Tim Riesterer, co-author of The Three Value Conversations, where he shares details of his book. Check it out to learn the conversations you need to be having to master your sales craft.

    Meet Tim Riesterer

    • Tim is the Chief Strategy and Marketing Officer of Corporate Visions. He has more than 20 years of experience in marketing and sales and is a co-founder of Customer Message Management.
    • Tim also worked with Corporate Visions LLC, where he was the CEO until it was acquired by Corporate Visions in 2008.
    • He brings a lot of great insights to a sales conversation, and during this episode, he offers some great thoughts relative to his book.

    Importance of Value Conversations

    • Being a sales professional is hard! You have to provide a solution that isn’t complex and too difficult for your prospects to understand.
    • How can you do this when you’re stuck at the proposal stage, getting caught up on prices, and unable to build your pipeline?
    • By having conversations with prospects that help educate them and bring value to them!

    The Three Value Conversations

    • Tim breaks down his book in full detail and shares how to overcome common sales challenges to bring value to prospects:
    • The time for change: Feeling stuck at the status quo? Learn your prospect’s situation and get them to recognize they need to change before they buy from you.
    • Unconsidered need: You already know your prospects' pain points, and so do they. Customers know what their problems are and may believe they have already found their solutions. To get you away from the proposal stage, help them discover their hidden problems.
    • Finances: 80% of business deals need to be signed off by a CFO. However, only 10% of most opportunities have a CFO as a contact. Learn how companies make money to get in front of the CEOs and move deals forward.

    Whiteboard vs. PowerPoint Presentation

    • Most people think it’s a better idea to create these beautiful PowerPoint presentations so others won’t get bored while they’re talking.
    • Tim did research on this and found that people actually prefer to watch a simple whiteboard stick figure story than a creative PowerPoint presentation.
    • You’ll be surprised how much more credible and engaging you seem by just drawing on a whiteboard with a marker and talking to your audience.

    “Value is created when a salesperson’s lips move.” - Tim Riesterer.

    Resources

    Corporate Vision’s Website

    Tim’s on Twitter @TRiesterer

    Get Tim’s book on Amazon

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    4 Things You Must Know About Every Prospect You’re Multi-Threading With | Donald Kelly - 1871 Feb 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Hey, hey, hey! I’m back on the road again and here in Dallas celebrating the Sales Kick-Off Season. While here, questions on multi-threading kept popping up, so I’m here to share the four characteristics you must know about your prospects to help you out with this sales challenge. Also, don’t forget to reach out to me on LinkedIn!

    Individual’s Title

    • Yeah, I know, a pretty obvious thing to know about your prospect. But it’s so important to know this because each individual you’re dealing with must be able to move a deal forward in the pipeline.
    • If their job role is unable to do this, then you’re not talking to the right person.
    • Look at their LinkedIn profile or ask other individuals within the organization to learn more about their title.

    Know Their Responsibilities

    • Sometimes a job title can mean nothing, and a person can just be filling a specific role until the right person comes along.
    • If you’re getting nowhere from learning about an individual’s job title, learn what their responsibilities are within an organization.
    • I like to use ChatGPT to learn more about a person’s job responsibilities. This can give you an idea if they’re the right person to speak to about moving forward with your offer.

    How Do They Influence the Deal?

    • You have to sit back and think about how this person influences a deal you’re trying to make with the organization.
    • I provide an example of how you can figure this out and use this to your advantage.

    How Do They Help the Organization Make Money?

    • If they know how to bring money into the company, then they’re more than likely the ones who can make a deal move forward.
    • For example, a marketing director might bring in money for the company because they’re attracting customers to the organization and tracking a KPI on conversion.

    “If you know these four things while multi-threading on the prospects you’re going after, it’s going to help you fine-tune your message toward the right individual and make sure the deal progresses properly.” - Donald Kelly.

    Resources

    Do you need help creating a podcast? Visit Bluë Mango Studios

    Connect and chat with me on LinkedIn

    Join my Sales Mastermind Class to start booking more appointments!

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    Ask Like an Auctioneer? | Dia Bondi - 1870 Feb 07, 2025
    Show notes

    No, guys, this episode has nothing to do with you switching professions and becoming an auctioneer. However, you will learn four core principles from the industry that will help you become a better sales professional. My guest, Dia Bondi, leadership communication coach and author of Ask Like an Auctioneer, is going to share how to articulate the offers you bring to your clients in a unique way. Also, don’t forget to download the hidden gems she shares at the bottom of these show notes.

    Meet Dia Bondi

    • Dia has an exciting background as a leadership communications coach with over 20 years of experience. She has worked on high-profile projects, including helping Rio de Janeiro win the bid to host the 2016 Olympics.
    • With a unique love and hobby for fundraising auctioneering she became inspired to write the book "Ask Like an Auctioneer," which focuses on making impactful asks.

    Paddle Through The No

    • Auctioneers have a tendency to speak fast, or maybe they’re just good at doing a special chant.
    • The chant they do allows them to keep going until they get a final bid, the highest offer.
    • If you paid attention, the auctioneers are paddling through each offer until they are able to maximize the initial offer.

    Importance of Value

    • Another core principle of auctioneers is not defining an offer based on the price. The price is to show the value of the product and how individuals can see that value.
    • You may find it hard to ask for a higher price because you’re unable to get the prospect to see the value of what you’re offering. Get them to see the worth of your offer, and they’ll be ready to spend whatever amount you’re asking for.

    Connect with Prospects with Storytelling

    • Part of your job as a seller is to understand what they really care about to help solve their problem.
    • Just like an auctioneer, use storytelling to help you practice empathy and connect with prospects on an emotional level.

    ZOFO: Zone of Freaking Out

    • You know that heart-wrenching feeling you get when you’re about to go into a meeting and the fear of rejection starts to creep in. Dia says it's ZOFO, or the Zone of Freaking Out.
    • She shares how to handle this feeling and to keep pushing so you don't mishandle a deal.

    “Price is not a way for you to define your own worth. Price is a way to see and understand what they value and how they value it. Not a way to define our own worth and worthiness.” - Dia Bondi.

    Resources

    Sales Evangelist Listeners Hidden Gems

    Dia Bondi on LinkedIn

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


    How To Use Sales Navigator To Target C-Suite Executives | Mike Murphy and John Murphy - 1869 Feb 03, 2025
    Show notes

    LinkedIn Sales Navigator is a handy tool to help you find prospects, but if you’re not using it right, you won’t be able to target the ones who have the say in closing a deal. How can you learn to use it to get in touch with C-suite executives? Find out in this episode with my guests Mike and John Murphy, the father-and-son duo of Text Tonality, and learn their three-step strategy for using LinkedIn.

    Where Did Their Passion for LinkedIn Come From?

    • After struggling to find new clients, John turned to his son Mike for help. Mike had a unique strategy that helped his father find high-stakes clients in no time.
    • Thanks to Mike’s method, he and his father are now the proud owners of Text Tonality.

    Understanding What Filters Are

    • When you first use LinkedIn Sales Navigator, you’ll notice the many different filters within the tool. Mike noticed that people usually use the filters incorrectly in two different ways: either using too many or not enough filters.
    • There are a certain number of filters you can use to help you find the right clients. If you DM Mike, he gives you the code to his free training to help you learn this trick.

    What To Say to C-Suite Executives When You Find Them

    • John shares that to get your message out correctly, you first have to position yourself in front of them.
    • They have to see how you can help them with their problem. If you can’t get them to see this, then they’re not going to spend 30 minutes on the phone with you.
    • Start with the big problem they have to intrigue them with a solution.

    Sending LinkedIn Messages Without Spamming

    • John and Mike share that it’s best not to send messages within LinkedIn connections. They share how sending Text Tonality messages works better after waiting a day after sending a connection request.
    • Mike also shares how probing can help get prospects to speak to you more after they say no thank you to your first message.
    • If you’re struggling with LinkedIn Sales Navigator, consider working with John and Mike at Text Tonality to learn more of their secrets.

    “Don't be afraid to follow up. People won’t get mad at you. They don't mind as long as you do it right." - John Murphy.

    "You want to think about how there is an element of numbers to this. A key performance indicator that we look for is a 25% acceptance rate, which means I'm targeting the right people and my profile is resonating." - Mike Murphy.

    Resources

    Learn more LinkedIn secrets at Text Tonality

    Connect with John and Mike on LinkedIn

    Don’t forget about the Sales Navigator Secrets Code: wealth24

    Sponsorship Offers

    1. This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.

    With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.

    2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.

    Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.

    3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.

    Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.

    Credits

    As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

    Mentioned in this episode:

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS

    HubSpot and bluëmago | STUDIOS hubpspot.com/marketers bluemangostudios.com


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