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The Rest Is Money

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories.
Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market.
Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape.
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205. Are Reform Looking For An Argentine Tango? Sep 07, 2025

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Who is Nigel Farage inspired by when it comes to Reform’s plans for the economy? What does Starmer’s reshuffle mean for business, skills and employment law? And which minister refused to move?

Robert and Steph discuss the aftermath of reshuffles and defections.

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204. Will The Late Late Budget Heal Or Harm? Sep 03, 2025

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How much is Reeves to blame for surging government borrowing costs? Has she made another error by maximising uncertainty with the long wait to the budget? How could she mend public finances?

Robert and Steph discuss why this coming budget could be the most important of the parliament.

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203. How To Beat Farage And The Populists Aug 31, 2025

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Is economic policy or economic messaging more important? What single “mission” should energise the whole government? How does Trump cut taxes for the super rich and keep the support of the low-income earners?

Steph and Robert discuss with Professor Mariana Mazzucato, author of Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism.

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202. What's The Cost Of Trump Controlling The Fed? Aug 27, 2025

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Is there a political case for Trump’s attempt to control America’s central bank? How close are the UK and France to debt crises? How is Starmer trying to exercise more control over Reeves and the Treasury?

Robert and Steph explain.

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201. Which Taxes Will Rachel Reeves Raise This Autumn? Aug 24, 2025

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Would an annual charge on properties valued over £500,000 be fairer than stamp duty? Will the Chancellor eventually have to scrap the manifesto promise and raise taxes on ‘working people’? How much could the Treasury raise by lowering VAT but getting rid of all exemptions?

Steph chats to tax policy expert, and friend of the show, Dan Neidle.

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200. Should Asylum Seekers Be Given Jobs? Aug 20, 2025

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Is immigration good or bad for economic growth? Why are we spending so much money on things like migrant hotels? Can we support our ageing population without migrants?

Steph speaks to migration and asylum expert and policy maker, Zoe Gardner.

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199. When George Osborne Went After The Bankers, I Went To Prison Aug 17, 2025

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Who were the traders who took the hit when the public turned on the City after the financial crisis? How did Tom Hayes lose his marriage, all his savings and his freedom in a case that has since been over-turned by the Supreme Court? Why will he get no compensation?

In the second part of this two-episode interview, Robert talks to Tom Hayes about how he lost everything when he took the rap for the flaws in the LIbor interest rate system.

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198. The Trader Who Paid For The Financial Crisis Aug 13, 2025

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Why did the authorities jail LIBOR trader Tom Hayes when so many reckless bankers went unpunished? How was Libor so central to the multi trillion dollar financial system? What did Hayes do to put himself in the firing line?

In the first part of a two-part series, Robert talks to Tom Hayes and shines a light on the true Libor scandal. It isn’t what you think.

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197. How Close Is The UK To A Lethal Debt Spiral? Aug 10, 2025

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Is the government already in a debt trap, where the economy can’t grow fast enough to cover its rising interest bill? Can the government spur economic growth enough to rescue the UK from relentless tax rises and spending squeezes? How should the machinery of government be reformed to turn a growth mission into a practical reality?

Robert and Steph look at the warning from the respected NIESR that a debt trap may be an imminent danger.

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196. Will Low Income Voters Ever Turn On Trump? Aug 06, 2025

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How much harm to the collective solidarity of nations has been done by America’s resurgent nationalism? Can the global economy absorb the costs of Trump’s tariffs without a slump? Is there any case for Trump’s new 50% tariffs on India?

Robert speaks with Philip Coggan, former Economist columnist about his new book The Economic Consequences of Mr Trump.

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