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    The Protagonistas

    The Protagonistas is a podcast centered on highlighting the stories and experiences of Black, Indigenous, and other women of color among communities of faith. Our conversations sit at the intersection of race, gender, sexuality and spirituality.

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    Latest Episodes:
    How Race Broke the World Mar 22, 2022
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    We have an exciting episode today with Lisa Sharon Harper about her recent book Fortune! As Harper lights a path through national and religious history, she clarifies exactly how and when the world broke and shows the way to redemption for us all. The book culminates with a vision of truth-telling, reparation, and forgiveness that leads to beloved community. You will surely enjoy the conversation!

    From Ferguson to New York, and from Germany and South Africa to Australia and Brazil, Lisa Sharon Harper leads trainings that increase clergy and community leaders’ capacity to organize people of faith toward a just world. A prolific speaker, writer and activist, Ms. Harper is the founder and president of FreedomRoad.us, a consulting group dedicated to shrinking the narrative gap in our nation by designing forums and experiences that bring common understanding, common commitment and common action.

    Follow Lisa @Lisasharper

    Follow Kat @Kat_armas

    Follow Chasing Justice @chasingjustice_

    Support The Protagonistas on Patreon!


    Mutual Flourishing in a World of Difference Mar 01, 2022
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    In this episode, Kat chats with Gail Song Bantum about her and her husband, Brian’s new book, Choosing Us: Marriage and Mutual Flourishing in a World of Difference. Gail rewrites the marriage narrative by highlighting mutual flourishing and the freedom and beauty that comes with that in our relationships with our spouses.

    Reverend Gail Song Bantum is the Lead Pastor of Quest Church, an urban, multi, and inclusive community in the heart of Seattle. Pastor Gail is particularly passionate about empowering emerging leaders and is a highly sought after speaker, preacher, and consultant. She is a contributing author of the New York Times Bestseller, A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal, edited by Sarah Bessey, and co-author of Choosing Us: Marriage and Mutual Flourishing in a World of Difference. Pastor Gail received her M.Div. from Duke Divinity School and is an ordained minister in the Evangelical Covenant Church. She and her husband, Dr. Brian Bantum, have three young adult sons and reside in Seattle, WA.

    Follow Gail and her family on their website www.theBantumspace.com

    Follow Kat @Kat_armas

    Follow Chasing Justice @chasingjustice_

    Support The Protagonistas on Patreon!


    On Power, Calling, & Encanto Feb 15, 2022
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    This episode, Kat chats with author Alyssa Aldape about the new Disney movie that everyone is talking about (or should we say, singing about?): Encanto! Alyssa shares about power, calling and how Encanto’s insightful messages relate to the church.

    Follow Alyssa on social media @aaaldape

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    Red Lip Theology Jan 18, 2022
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    In this episode, Kat talks with Candice Benbow about her book, Red Lip Theology. Candice shares about what it looks like to be authentic in our relationships with God and the freedom that comes with that.

    Candice Marie Benbow is a multi-genre theologian who situates her work at the intersections of beauty, faith, feminism and culture, giving voice to Black women’s shared experiences of healing and journeying toward wholeness. Reimagining how faith can be a tool of liberation and transformation for women and girls, she challenges Black women to think critically about how they see God and the world.

    Named by Sojourners as one of “10 Christian Women Shaping the Church in 2020”, Candice has written for various outlets including ESSENCE Magazine, Glamour Magazine, The Root, VICE, Shondaland, MadameNoire and the Me Too Movement.

    Her first book, Red Lip Theology: For Church Girls Who’ve Considered Tithing to the Beauty Supply Store When Sunday Morning Isn’t Enough is out now wherever books are found!

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    On Reclaiming and a Ridiculous Hope Sep 21, 2021
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    In this episode Kat chats with writer, speaker, and singer Sharifa Stevens about reclaiming submission, ridiculous hope, and what it really means to be "awake"- among other things.

    Sharifa is the daughter of Jamaican immigrants, born and raised in New York, and currently residing with her family in Dallas, TX. She graduated from Columbia University in New York with a Bachelor in African American Studies before earning a master in theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. Sharifa is a conglomeration of intersections: Bronx wisdom and prep-school code-switching; smoke shop Now-and-Laters and church peppermints; hip-hop and hymns. Intersections can be a mash-up—rife with both tragedy and opportunity; places of pause within movement. Sharifa aspires to use writing as a vehicle that moves readers to intersect with the sacred and the honest. She contributed to the book Vindicating the Vixens: Revisiting Sexualized, Vilified, & Marginalized Women of the Bible and Rally: Communal Prayers for Lovers of Jesus and Justice. Sharifa is married to a Renaissance man, and mother to two lively boys.

    Follow Sharifa @sharifawrites

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    Abuelita Faith as Embodied Theology Aug 17, 2021
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    In this episode Kat chats with pastora Inés Velasquez-McBryde about cosiendo and creating- an embodiment of Abuelita Faith. Inés shares about her Abuela Sara (who is featured in Ch. 6 of the book) and about what abuelita theology means to her. Inés was the very first guest on The Protagonistas!

    She is co-pastor of The Church We Hope For- check them out! Follow them at @thechurchwehopefor on Instagram and Twitter.

    Follow Inés @inesmcbryde.

    Follow Kat @kat_armas.


    The Black Enneagram & Abuelita Faith Aug 03, 2021
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    In this episode, Kat chats with the face of The Black Enneagram (on Instagram) Dayo Ajanaku! Dayo and Kat chat about enneagram energies found in Abuelita Faith and what we can learn from abuelita theologians.

    Follow Dayo: @theblackenneagram

    Follow Kat: @kat_armas


    The Sacredness of the Land Jul 20, 2021
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    In this episode Kat chats with Mvskoke writer and educator, Mariah Humphries.

    Through her and her ancestors experience navigating the tension between Native and White American culture, Mariah is an educator to non-Native spaces. With over 20 years of vocational ministry service, she is focused on theology, racial literacy and reconciliation within the American Church. She is the current Be the Bridge Ministry educator where she works with religious leaders to navigate racial reconciliation in their congregations.

    Kat and Mariah chat about her experiences growing up Native, the sacredness of the land, her racial justice work, and much more.


    [RECAP] Theology in El Barrio Jun 29, 2021
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    In this RECAP episode, Kat highlights a some of her conversation with Dr. Liz Rios.


    Theology in El Barrio Jun 22, 2021
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    In today's episode Kat chats with Afro-Nuyorican Boricua Dr. Elizabeth Ríos about the Latin@ church, barrio theology, "Progressive Pentecostalism," women in church planting, and so much more.

    Make sure to follow Dr. Liz on social media: @drlizrios

    Visit her website: https://www.elizabethrios.com/

    Follow Kat Armas @kat_armas

    Preorder Abuelita Faith for exclusive podcast episodes: www.katarmas.com/book


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