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    The Product Experience: a Mind the Product podcast

    The Product Experience features conversations with the product people of the world, focusing on real insights of how to improve your product practice. Part of the Mind the Product network, hosts Lily Smith (ProductTank organiser and Product Consultant) & Randy Silver (Head of Product and product management trainer) “go deep” with the best speakers from ProductTank meetups all over the globe, Mind the Product conferences, and the wider product community.

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    Rerun: Breaking the Internet - Sudhir Venkatesh Oct 27, 2021
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    We initially ran this episode back in May, but that was before Frances Haugen came forward as the Facebook whistleblower. Our guest, Columbia University sociologist Sudhir Venkatesh, worked in the same area of Facebook as Haugen (civic integrity), albeit years earlier; he also held a similar role at Twitter. We asked him to join us on the podcast to help understand how product people can do great things without fundamentally breaking the internet.

    Featured Links: Follow Sudhir on LinkedIn and Twitter | Sudhir Breaks the Internet Podcast | Signal: The Tech and Society Lab at Columbia University | Guy Rosen - VP Integrity at Facebook | Front Porch Forum | Civic Signals

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    Outcome-Driven Product Teams - Becky Flint Oct 20, 2021
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    We've talked about avoiding and escaping feature factories a number of times—but how do you take the next step, to become an outcome-driven product organisation? Becky Flint, CEO at Dragonboat, was able to provide all of the answers — after all, she built the product portfolio organisations at Paypal, Shutterfly, and others.

    Featured Links: Follow Becky on LinkedIn and Twitter | Dragonboat | 'Outcomes Over Outputs' - Josh Seiden on The Product Experience | 'Another Side of the Rocks, Pebbles and Sand Story' piece by Aditya Kothadiya | Dragonboat is hiring - work with Becky

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    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    An introduction to impact mapping - Tim Herbig Oct 13, 2021
    Show notes

    Evolving your organisation from a feature factory to becoming outcome-focused is a challenge many of us have faced - but how do you actually do it? Impact Mapping is a great way to help take stakeholders and teams from focusing on the how-to the what and why. We asked consultant, trainer and author Tim Herbig to give us the crash course on the topic, including how to get people to understand the difference between an Impact, an Output, and an Outcome.
    Featured Links: Follow Tim on LinkedIn and Twitter | Tim's Website | Read Tim's 'Using Impact Mapping to Navigate Product Discovery' piece | 'Idea Prioritization with ICE and the Confidence Meter' by Itamar Gilad | Gojko Adzic's book 'Impact Mapping: Making a Big Impact with Software Products and Projects'

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    The data says your website sucks - Rachel Obstler Oct 06, 2021
    Show notes

    Why do good people make bad products? You know the feeling: you're trying to complete a transaction on someone else's site or app,and it Just. Does. Not. Work. You wonder who the poor product manager is for it - or if there even is one. And then you remember the last time you sat in on customer support calls, and how hard your own product can be to use.
    How does this happen? We chatted with Rachel Obstler, Heap's VP of Product, to understand how we can use metrics to suck less.
    Featured Links: Follow Rachel on LinkedIn and Twitter | Heap | 'Why Every UX Designer Should Be a Data Analyst' Modus article

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    Clean up your Mess: Working with IA - Abby Covert Sep 29, 2021
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    Back in the dark ages of web design — back when the job title Webmaster was a thing — every team included someone who specialised in Information Architecture (IA). These days, that work is often considered to be part of UX, but that can mean that we're not doing the job well enough. Abby Covert joins us on the podcast to chat about why IA is important, how and when we should work with Information Architects, and how you can incorporate the principles and lessons from the discipline into your work.
    Featured Links: Follow Abby on LinkedIn and Twitter | Abby's Website | Abby's first book 'How To Make Sense Of Any Mess: Information Architecture For Everybody' | Pre-order Abby's forthcoming book 'Stuck: The Purpose, Process And Craft Of Diagramming' | Max Cohn's 'Karl Marx Visits The Cheesecake Factory'| IHOP's omelette pancake batter secret feature at Huffington Post

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    Who does what? Organising your product teams - Mike Hudack Sep 22, 2021
    Show notes

    We always encourage people to experiment with their product development techniques - but experimenting with your team can be a step too far. We talked with Monzo Chief Product Officer Mike Hudack (ex-Facebook, Deliveroo) about how he approaches this: what's worked and what hasn't, avoiding cross-team dependencies, communication & collaboration, and much more.
    Featured Links: Follow Mike on LinkedIn and Twitter | Molly Graham's 'Give Away Your Legos' and Other Commandments for Scaling Startups Blog | Work with Mike at Monzo - he's hiring!
    Support our sponsors

    Give Sprig (formerly Userleap) a try for free by visiting Sprig.com to build better products.

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    The view from the C-Suite - Tanya Cordrey Sep 15, 2021
    Show notes

    We've all had the experience of presenting to the leadership team - but what do they say about you when you leave the room? What's it like to work at that level? And how do you get promoted to the C-suite?
    We talked with experienced product & boardroom vet Tanya Cordrey about all of this - and much more - for this week's podcast.
    Featured Links: Follow Tanya on LinkedIn and Twitter | Jörg Malang Five Ways of Becoming a Respected Product Leader in the C-Suite | The Guardian

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    Conducting user research at scale - Kenton Hansen Sep 08, 2021
    Show notes

    When we sat down with Roll20.net Product Director Kenton Hanson for this week's podcast, we were hoping to hear tales of how he and his product team (or band of adventurers!) went on quests to conduct user research. We wanted to hear about dodging orcs and dragons (stakeholders) while collecting treasure (insights).
    Instead, we learned that it's only Roll20's marketing team that cast spells. But we also learned a lot about conducting research for such a large, passionate community, qualifying candidates, sharing learnings, and much more.
    Featured Links: Follow Kenton on LinkedIn and Twitter | Kenton's Website | Roll20 | Patrick Lencioni's teamwork system The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team | Erika Hall's book Just Enough Research

    Give Sprig a try for free by visiting Sprig.com to build better products.

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    Identifying and multiplying your best customers - Tamara Grominsky Sep 01, 2021
    Show notes

    We all want more customers - but being able to understand who your best customer segments are, prioritise for them, and then land more of them? That's a game-changer. We talked with Tamara Grominsky (Unbounce's VP of Strategy) about some easy-to-implement techniques that will help you do just that.
    Featured Links: Follow Tamara on LinkedIn and Twitter | Tamara's Website | Unbounce Segmentation Presentation | Strategyzer's canvas: How to Capture Customer Jobs, Pains, & Gains that aren't Subjective | Forbes' Guide to the Van Westendorp Pricing Model | Profitwell's Patrick Campbell wrote about Pricing for Bottom Line Growth

    Give Sprig a try for free by visiting Sprig.com to build better products.

    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

    Getting started with User Story Mapping - Jeff Patton Aug 25, 2021
    Show notes

    There's nothing more useless to a Product team than a big backlog. Bringing backlogs to life - making them usable, relevant, and getting value from them - is something that transforms ordinary teams into extraordinary ones. To guide us on how to do that, we asked Jeff Patton - creator of User Story Mapping - to join us on the podcast.

    Featured Links: Follow Jeff on LinkedIn and Twitter | Jeff's upcoming Training Sessions | Buy Jeff's book 'User Story Mapping' | Alistair Cockburn's book 'Writing Effective Use Cases'

    Give UserLeap a try for free by visiting UserLeap.com to build better products.


    We're refreshing The Product Experience and want your input. Take our two-minute survey and help shape where the show goes next!

    Our Hosts
    Lily Smith enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early-stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. She’s currently Chief Product Officer at BBC Maestro, and has spent 13 years in the tech industry working with startups in the SaaS and mobile space.

    Randy Silver is a Leadership & Product Coach and Consultant. He gets teams unstuck, helping you to supercharge your results. Randy's held interim CPO and Leadership roles at scale-ups and SMEs, advised start-ups, and been Head of Product at HSBC and Sainsbury’s. He participated in Silicon Valley Product Group’s Coaching the Coaches forum, and speaks frequently at conferences and events. You can join one of communities he runs for CPOs (CPO Circles), Product Managers (Product In the {A}ether) and Product Coaches. He’s the author of What Do We Do Now? A Product Manager’s Guide to Strategy in the Time of COVID-19. A recovering music journalist and editor, Randy also launched Amazon’s music stores in the US & UK.

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