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    The Pro Organizer Studio Podcast

    Pro Organizer Studio is a business building resource for professional organizers. We are here to help you launch & grow the professional organizing business of your dreams! Hosted by Melissa Klug, who is a master certified professional organizer and founder of home organization business Home By Eleven in the Minneapolis/St. Paul metro area, and who is a business coach for pro organizers on 5 continents!

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    168 | How To Summit LIVE (Part 2) Nov 01, 2023
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    Welcome to part 2 of our recent live pod taping at the How To Summit! Thank you again to Brandie and Ryan of Home+Sort for hosting such an awesome event! I can't wait to be there next year!

    LINKS FOR LISTENERS:

    Information on Inspired Organizer: click HERE

    email Melissa: hello@proorganizerstudio.com

    PANELISTS:

    Ria Safford | Riorganize | @riorganize Ashley Murphy + Marissa Hagmeyer | NEAT Method | @neatmethod Mindy Godding | President of NAPO | Abundance Organizing | @abundanceorganizing Ashley Jones Hatcher | Travel & lifestyle expert | @ashleyjoneshatcher Get in touch with us! Email us at hello@proorganizerstudio.com

    Follow How To Summit HERE

    Sign up for info on next year's summit: howtosummit.org


    167 | How To Summit LIVE! (Part 1) Oct 30, 2023
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    Welcome to our first ever live podcast recording! The How To Summit was an amazing two days of learning and community and fun, and the last day we hit record on a fab panel of organizers answering a grab bag of my questions.

    The panelists:

    Ria Safford | Riorganize | @riorganize Ashley Murphy + Marissa Hagmeyer | NEAT Method | @neatmethod Mindy Godding | President of NAPO | Abundance Organizing | @abundanceorganizing Ashley Jones Hatcher | Travel & lifestyle expert | @ashleyjoneshatcher

    LINKS FOR LISTENERS Get in touch with us! Email us at hello@proorganizerstudio.com

    Follow How To Summit HERE

    Sign up for info on next year's summit: howtosummit.org Inspired Organizer information: inspiredorganizer.com


    166 | More scammy or super scammy things to avoid Oct 15, 2023
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    After I posted the epsiode about scams/scammy things we encounter in our organizing businesses, I got so many emails/messages from people who had examples or things that I forgot about, I wanted to add a second podcast to make sure you're staying away from the messes that can be created. Today's episode talks about "partnerships", more details on bad advertising decisions, and lots of other scammy or super scammy things that can happen to organizers.


    165 | Ask More Questions: Avoiding Scams + Pay to Play + Other Cruddy Things Oct 11, 2023
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    As professional organizing entrepreneurs, unfortunately one thing we have to watch out for are straight up scams at the worst, and things that are sketchy and unhelpful opportunities at the least. I want you to have a healthy level of skepticism for opportunities that come your way--and today I am talking about some specifics on things to be on the lookout for! Timestamps:1:00 It's ok to be a little cynical in your professional organizing business to find scams 4:00 Listen to your gut to avoid being preyed upon by scammers 7:00 Scams camouflaged as "opportunities" 10:00 Pay to Play options 14:00 Ask a lot of questions before you hire a coach or other business 15:30 Moving scam to avoid 19:00 I don't want you to have regrets! LINKS FOR LISTENERS: Learn more about our Inspired Organizer program: www.inspiredorganizer.com Our 24/7 on demand workshop, The Pro Organizer's Profit Plan: www.poroadmap.com PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT: Hey, pro organizers, it's your podcast host, Melissa. And of course, just right as I press record, the neighbor's dog started going absolutely bananas. So hopefully you guys can hear this. This is just shows you this is real life here when I'm recording the podcast. But. I am on here today because sometimes I have podcasts planned out for a long time and there's something that I've thought about for a while and I want to get out and sometimes there will be things that happen in a given day or week or month and I go, this is like, I was going to say an emergency podcast. There's no such thing as an emergency podcast, but like a breaking news, organizing breaking news podcast type of thing. I don't know. And that's kind of what today is. There is something that's been on my mind based on some conversations that I've seen in the past few days. And then combined with a podcast that I am listening to, and I think it's important for organizers to talk about and think about, and it was on my mind so much that I'm like, this is, I have to make this into a podcast. This is going to be a pretty stream of consciousness, like free flowing it's, it's what's in Melissa's head. So hopefully you guys are all good with that. I just wanted to give you kind of my off the cuff thoughts because I think that this is really important and when I originally started thinking about this, I will be honest, the only word that kept coming to my mind or the only phrase that I could think of to describe this was the phrase like Be cynical. And I don't think that being cynical in general is a good trade for professional organizers. I think it's the exact opposite of what we need to be, especially with clients. But what I do want to do is turn that word cynical into I guess what I would phrase it as I want you to be a careful and thoughtful consumer, and I want you to ask a lot of questions when you're presented with something. So let me just tell you a little bit about how I got here and what's going on. So first of all, there is a podcast called The Dream, which I've listened to for a long time. I can't remember when it first came out, but it's had a few seasons. And the first couple of seasons, they did a really well researched dive on MLMs, which is a subject that fascinates me. But then the current season that they're on, they've like kind of shifted a little bit and they're talking about the life coaching industry, particularly, and it's just, it's been really fascinating to listen to, and it's really hit on something that is kind of the combination of something that I've seen in our Inspired Organizer group, and then this podcast just got me going, I've got to talk about this. So I was listening to an episode of The Dream while I got ready to go to an organizing client last week, and they were talking about how people, even very famous people sometimes can just like literally just make things up and say, you should do X, Y, Z. And then they get people to pay for X, Y, Z when they don't have any actual training. They don't have any actual expertise. You can say anything you want to on the internet and no one will ever fact check you, right? So, they were talking about this guy who wrote a book that has sold 100 million copies worldwide. People really bought into it. And essentially, he is a complete 100 percent con man, okay? But was thinking about that book and then in the past few days There have been a couple things that have come up in our inspired organizer coaching group Which by the way you guys I would absolutely love for you to get into our community It is so lovely and people bring up so many things in that group that one of my main goals as a coach is to prevent People from making decisions that they will regret later sometimes very expensive Mistakes. And there were people that come to this group and just say, Hey, I had this opportunity to come up and give me a gut check or tell me about your experience with this. A couple of things that have come up in the group that things that were brought to us. And basically it was presented of like, I have like a fishy feeling about this basically. And they were doing a gut check because in our business we are sometimes presented with opportunities or presented with things and we're like, oh my gosh, it sounds so exciting. Like this person wants to interview me or they want to do this or they want to do that. And then you start to get a little voice in the back of your head and said, but. Is it, is it really real? Is it too good to be true? We start to doubt ourselves. We doubt our voices sometimes. And, and one of the things that I am going to always tell you all the time, if you listen to this podcast ever, or if I coach you, I always say go with your gut and trust your gut because if your gut is telling you that something feels fishy, it probably is fishy, right? And there were a couple of things that came up and they were both in the category of what I term unsolicited media opportunities, okay? One of them was an organizing company that was featuring other organizers in a blog post and they were chosen for this out of the blue. And then the other one was a podcast that had called and said, we want to feature you on our business podcast. And both of these organizers were very excited by this because they were opportunities that just came out of the blue, right? But then they also wanted to ask the question, is there anything that I need to be watching out for? First of all, I know what it's like to be in business and you sometimes get opportunities that come your way and you're excited about it because you're like, Oh my gosh, this is a great opportunity for me. I want you to be excited about opportunities that come your way. But I also want you to ask the appropriate questions because extremely unfortunately, and this is what bothers me about business probably more than anything else, unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there, not in the organizing industry, but just the bigger industry who are out there honestly just preying on entrepreneurs and they're trying to build their own businesses. Right. But sometimes they're doing it in a way that. is not really on the up and up. And when we as organizers get an opportunity presented I want you to be appropriately excited, but I want you to ask the questions and make sure that it's not an opportunity that you're being preyed upon. And I want to be clear, this has nothing to do with your level of experience. It doesn't matter if you are a newer organizer or an experienced organizer, all of us can have things that we fall for. I know an experienced organizer who unfortunately lost a ton of money in an organizing scam and that was not someone who was brand new. And so we can all be susceptible to these. In these two circumstances that I'm talking about, these were not traditional scams. There are scams in organizing. Okay. And I'll talk about those in a couple minutes. But I want you to ask questions about some of these opportunities that come your way, because sometimes, even if they're not a scam, they are something that is really not going to help your business, or they are something that is trying to lead you into something that could be bigger or something that you are going to be trying to force to make a very expensive decision about. A couple examples. One of them that has come up lately, And I'm guessing that a lot of you on listening to this podcast have gotten this call. There is a podcast that they say it's a business podcast. They really want to feature you. It's a five minute interview. They want to feature you in this promotion and they want to give you an article and all this stuff. It's not a scam. They really do interview you. for five minutes and they put that up, but there's always a catch. So it might not be a scam, but there's a catch. Then they're going to call you back and try to sell you a huge advertising package which one of our organizers said they were asking for about 5, 000 for an advertising package, which I can promise you is not going to lead you to ideal organizing clients. Okay. There are so many other things out there that you are going to be presented with as opportunities and all of us are trying to build our businesses. And so we do the natural thing, which is we get excited and we go, maybe this will be the thing that will lead me to, you know, this, this treasure trove of clients. A few examples are golf courses that will call you and want you to be in a book that they give to all golfers. They present it as this amazing opportunity. It's going to be transformative for your business. As a great entrepreneur and all of these opportunities, you guys are pay to play. And so what's going to happen is they, they bait you with like, Oh, we have chosen you for the super special opportunity. And then they're going to say, Oh, but we need you to pay X, Y, Z. And it's usually a decent amount of money. We're not talking about a couple of hundred dollars. We're talking about, in most cases, thousands of dollars so that you can really promote this opportunity. And. While again, these are not necessarily traditional scams, they are not something in general that is going to help your business. So this includes print ads for local magazines. This includes a lot of those different things. And in a lot of cases too, you're going to get pressured, like really pressured with a sales pitch. And that should be your spidey sense number one going off of, wait a minute, why are they pitching me so hard on this? If they are pitching you that hard, it's something that's a little bit fishy. Okay. It's, it's not really, really legit. The second one was I think it was just someone being very creative about seo and their backlinks it was an organizing company that was featuring other organizing companies And I think the goal is they just want to get a backlink on someone else's site, which is an SEO tactic for their own websites, right? So this is not a nefarious scam. Neither of these are nefarious scams, but it's like, as I say, it's a little bit sketch. In this SEO one, they randomly pick 10 organizing companies, several of which are people in our inspired organizer group. And they said they want to focus on them. And the idea is the person gets really excited to be featured and then they post the story everywhere. And then that backlink helps that other company. So it helps their SEO. It's very enterprising, honestly, but here's what I want to do. I want you to get backlinks for your website, which is a whole thing that I am happy to teach you, but I want you to do it by connecting with other organizers that you actually know, other organizers that you actually want to be connected with, who you guys can mutually help each other. Okay. And I will tell you as pro organizer studio, I get pitched. Please do not think I'm exaggerating seven or eight times a day. Sometimes more pitched on things people want us to buy things that people want me to write an article about for our blog, things that people want to feature on the podcast. It's nonstop. And I really, I'm going to tell you, I hope for you, for your business life, it doesn't include that because it is extremely annoying to manage, but partner with people on things that you know about and trust that are in our industry or in analogous industries. You can give and get backlinks from other organizers in ways that aren't like scammy and blah. Another thing that's going to happen to you a lot is you are going to be pitched that you are an amazing entrepreneur and you have been chosen to be featured in XYZ magazine. And we're going to do an article about you and blah, blah, blah. So, in 99. 9 percent of these cases, these are pay to play opportunities, you're going to get excited that someone wants to feature you and they have chosen you, and then you're going to find out that, unfortunately, it's really not what you thought it was. And then, you're going to get a high pressure sales tactic? The example I gave was Brains Magazine, Brains with a Z has been on a tear. They're not just contacting organizers. They contacted a friend of mine who's a stylist. They're all over the place. So then when you find out they're contacting all these people, you realize it's not special. They're just contacting a lot of people. There are tons of these magazines out there, entrepreneurial magazines, and it's all pay to play. And they prey on people who don't ask the questions or people who just go, Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. I'm going to be featured in a magazine. And If you want to be featured in the media, that is a whole other topic and there are ways to do it where you pitch for that media and there is going to be a whole podcast that I'm going to do on that pretty soon. But those opportunities that reach out for you and they really, really hard sell you, you're going to get multiple emails about it. You're going to get a lot of stuff those are. They're just almost never things that are going to be worthwhile for you. And they really are just sales pitches. This is so random but I'm going to just save you a little bit of time. If you start to get these opportunities presented to you, right. Via email, via phone call, whatever you are not obligated in any way, shape or form to respond to a person to decline the opportunity to reply to them in any way, if you're getting pitched something and you're not interested in it. You can just delete it. You do not have to spend a single minute of your time. I know that we all want to be very polite, but what I don't want you to do is, and this is a trap that someone that I know fell into recently, where you respond to some of these things that you should be healthfully skeptical about, and then they know you're a real person, and the sales pitch comes harder and harder. Just simply delete. and ignore. You can send it to spam. That's what I do. You don't have to respond. The people I want to respond to, you respond to, are potential clients. Other things that are really, really good opportunities, so, please just Delete and move on. The other thing that I want to talk about too, well, there are a lot of things I want to talk about, but in the time that I have been a coach for professional organizers, I have had a lot of times where people come and they say, I have signed up for XYZ service an SEO service that costs over a thousand dollars a month and you are obligated for a 12 month contract that…

    Full show notes at the publisher

    164 | October to-do list for your organizing business Oct 03, 2023
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    It's OCTOBER and for me, it's a month when I feel SUPER motivated and excited to dig in to my business. I'm giving you some ideas of what an October business to-do list looks like, and some ideas of things you can focus on.

    Here are some bullet points to remind you what's in the podcast!

    I would love for you to be a part of our Inspired Organizer® program and community. Join 800+ other organizers around the world in our awesome family. Join us or get more details HERE!

    HONEYBOOK COURSE $149 https://www.inspiredorganizer.com/offers/7yd3LKFq

    OCTOBER ideas:

    • Seasonal wardrobe switch outs
    • Get ready for holiday entertaining before the crazy starts
    • Organize Halloween decor
    • Kid focus: school has started, is paperwork out of control already? I got you!

    Concentrate on ONE thing that you've been avoiding...what are you putting off in your business?

    Habit development: what are some business habits you need to develop or work on?

    Thinking about raising your prices, but haven't done it yet?

    Time to build a team, or time to change things up with your existing team?

    THREE months left in this year to do great things. I can't wait to hear all about them.


    163 | From Pro Organizer to Closet Designer-Meet Bethany from The Container Store Sep 12, 2023
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    I'm thrilled to introduce you to our Inspired Organizer® member Bethany, who is living out her "Disney job" dream of being a closet designer at The Container Store!


    162 | Today's a Good Day To Raise Your Prices. Yeah--you! Raise 'em! Aug 28, 2023
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    Today is a great day to raise your prices.

    Yeah--I'm talking to you!


    161 | Taking Chances, Business Passion, and "I need to die on less hills!" -- Home+Sort p.2 Aug 21, 2023
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    Brandie and Ryan of Home+Sort and the How To: Summit are back with SO MUCH GOODNESS. We are chatting about so many things, including clients being liars (we'll explain!), being passionate about your business and what kinds of conversations that leads to--and so much more. I can't wait for you to hear all the great things we get into.

    Our Organizing Essentials program closes 8/25--CLICK HERE to join us!

    LINKS FOR LISTENERS:

    Information on the How To: Summit CLICK HERE

    Check out Home+Sort on IG: CLICK HERE


    160 | Brandie & Ryan of Home+Sort and the hosts of the How To: Summit Aug 16, 2023
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    This is a can't miss episode of the pod with Brandie & Ryan, who are the reason we are all so excited to go to the How:To Summit 9/21-9/22 in Ohio.

    LINKS FOR LISTENERS:

    Info + tickets for How:To Summit CLICK HERE

    Follow for summit information: CLICK HERE

    Register to join Pro Organizer Studio: Organizing Essentials closing soon: CLICK HERE


    159 | Answering Qs about the August to-do list Aug 08, 2023
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    Our last episode on your August to-do list generated some questions--answering a couple of them for you!

    I would love for you to join our Organizing Essentials program--details are here on how to join!

    https://www.inspiredorganizer.com/offers/uYMgvH4F


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