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$180K Bitcoin In 2025? Here’s the Case | Chris Klein Oct 20, 2025

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Chris Klein is the Co-Founder & CEO of Bitcoin IRA. In this conversation, we discuss how retirement investing is changing in the digital era, what people are actually doing inside their retirement accounts, and how the wealthy use these tools to grow their wealth faster. We also dive into broader topics like patriotism in America, macro trends, and the roles of gold, silver, stocks, and bitcoin in today’s economy.

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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro
1:51 - Benefit of bitcoin in retirement accounts
3:52 - Can bitcoin get to $180,000 by end of 2025?
8:43 - Government shutdown and market impact
12:37 - Financial literacy and retirement gap
15:36 - Crypto staking in IRAs and what customers are investing in
19:21 - How tokenization will impact IRAs and rise of retail
22:20 - What are “Forgotten 401ks?”
26:15 - Gold vs Bitcoin debate
29:35 - Patriotism and division in America
33:53 - Bitcoin as common ground
37:20 - Bitcoin IRA promos

Bitcoin Crashed: Why I'm Still Buying | Jordi Visser Oct 18, 2025

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Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we discuss the banking crisis, credit contraction, and what’s driving fear in today’s markets, Jordi shares what he’s buying, whether he’s worried about a broader slowdown, and we also touch on OpenAI’s breakthroughs, new AI models, and whether “the aliens are real.”

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Timestamps:

0:00 – Intro
1:53 – Market panic and bitcoin 4-year cycle
10:52 – Central banks view on gold vs bitcoin
14:58 – US & China trade tensions and rare earths
28:25 – Fed policy, rate cuts, and credit risks
31:24 – Regional banks and financial stability
35:41 – From pessimism to optimism in markets and rise of retail
49:21 – AI breakthroughs and the future of technology
52:58 – Have aliens come to earth?

Why Isn’t Bitcoin Pumping While Gold Soars? | Jeff Park Oct 17, 2025

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Jeff Park is a Partner and Chief Investing Officer of ProCap BTC. In this conversation, we go on a global tour — from Argentina to China to London and back to the US — breaking down what’s happening in different economies, why the US dollar, gold, bitcoin, and global swap lines all matter right now. We also discuss market sentiment, bitcoin’s recent price action compared to gold, and whether investors should actually be worried.

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Timestamps:

0:00 – Intro
1:59 – Argentina’s economy and dollar swap lines
8:13 – Why the US is buying pesos before bitcoin
11:45 – Bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset
13:39 – China’s trade war and capital flows
18:43 – Lessons from the Bank of England and gold’s staying power
24:05 – How bitcoin could follow gold’s path
28:03 – Founding of America and monetary history
31:37 – Market sentiment and crypto disappointment
33:47 – Bitcoin adoption and trade-offs

Bitcoin’s $10K Candles Are Coming — Get Ready | Anthony & John Pompliano Oct 14, 2025

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Anthony & John Pompliano discuss what’s going on with bitcoin, stocks, market bubble talk, why the pessimists are wrong, what the future of predication markets look like, and why JPMorgan and Anduril are investing back into America.

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Timestamps:

0:00 – Intro
1:26 – Bitcoin crash and Trump’s economic plans
6:29 – Is bitcoin a safe haven asset?
12:47 – Is there really a market bubble?
26:14 – Should the Fed continue to intervene in the market?
30:22 – Prediction markets and recession odds
40:19 – Why investors love buying stocks at all-time highs
42:08 – JPMorgan and Anduril investing back in America

Gold vs Bitcoin: The Ultimate 2025 Debasement Trade Oct 13, 2025

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Peter Schiff is an American economist, stockbroker, author, the CEO & Chief Global Strategist of Euro Pacific Capital, and the Founder of SchiffGold. In this conversation we discuss why gold & silver are hitting record highs, interest rates, how to improve economic policies, what Peter would do if he was President, and a bet on whether gold or bitcoin will end up having a better 2025?

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at ⁠https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos⁠. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit ⁠https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures⁠ to learn more.

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Timestamps:

0:54 - Intro
1:21 - Why gold and silver are hitting record highs
5:07 - How to think about the gold allocation in your portfolio
9:55 - Evaluating why China is buying so much gold
12:19 - Why the “Debasement Trade” is now happening
15:26 - Interest rates, inflation, & Fed’s independence
20:57 - Bitcoin vs gold: which one will have a better 2025?
26:39 - Grading the Trump admin on economic policy
30:51 - What would Peter do if he was President?

Is Bitcoin The ONLY Safe Haven Now? | Jordi Visser Oct 11, 2025

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Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we discuss whether there’s a bubble forming and where Jordi stands — bullish or bearish, we dive into the AI trade, the supply and demand imbalance driving energy and infrastructure, the growing “debasement trade” as institutions allocate to Bitcoin and gold, we explore capitalism vs. socialism, humanoid robots, and the macro forces shaping the markets today.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.
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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Bubble talk is dominating the market
7:06 - The $7 Trillion AI infrastructure boom
10:03 - Impact of AI adoption
13:36 - AI job fears and market correction warnings
19:18 - Credit events and private credit risks
26:16 - Why the debasement trade is happening now: gold and bitcoin
39:05 - The rise of humanoid robots
44:06 - Outlook on compute, power, and the market

The New Bitcoin Trade Everyone Is Doing | Jeff Park Oct 08, 2025

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Jeff Park is a Partner and Chief Investing Officer of ProCap BTC. In this conversation we talk the debasement trade, bitcoin vs gold, why everyone seems to be getting rich while the government is going broke, Ken Griffin & Paul Tudor Jones being so excited about the market, and what the $2 billion Polymarket deal means for the future.

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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro
0:54 - US government going broke while everyone is getting rich?
5:00 - Why the “debasement trade” is now happening
10:13 - Wall Street capitulates to bitcoin
13:29 - Gold vs bitcoin
19:48 - 1999 vs 2025 market euphoria
24:05 - What Jeff is paying attention to
30:44 - ICE invests $2 billion in Polymarket

How to Prepare for the Next Bitcoin Bull Market | Anthony & John Pompliano Oct 07, 2025

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Anthony and John Pompliano discuss why bitcoin is going higher, why Ken Griffin and Paul Tudor-Jones are so bullish, how to enjoy the bull market while preparing for a storm, why the government will never stop printing money, and why asset prices are going higher.

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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro
0:54 - Bitcoin reaches all-time high!
4:43 - Will bitcoin be bigger than gold?
6:36 - Wall Street is now waking up to bitcoin
11:38 - BlackRock is now a bitcoin company
14:55 - How should investors be thinking about allocation
21:07 - How to protect from downside volatility & Q4 outlook
26:42 - Why September had best performance in 15 years
32:51 - Can you sleep through the storm?

Bitcoin vs. The Fed: Former Congressman Thinks Bitcoin Is the Answer | Jeb Hensarling Oct 06, 2025

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Jeb Hensarling is the former Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee and one of the most influential voices in economic policy during the 2008 financial crisis. He has also joined ProCap BTC as a Senior Advisor. In this conversation, we talk about how Jeb pushed back against the bank bailouts, how those same issues led to the rise of bitcoin, his views on bitcoin, stablecoins, the broader crypto industry, and how technology and innovation are reshaping the financial system today.

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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro
2:25 - 2008 bank bailouts & Satoshi
6:21 - QE playbook & constant intervention
10:39 - Bitcoin as protection & property rights
17:11 - GENIUS Act & advice for industry regulation
24:36 - How to get lawmakers educated
28:11 - Why stablecoins matter for America & bitcoin
33:34 - How to think through a US bitcoin strategic reserve
38:39 - Opportunities in the intersection of finance and technology
43:25 - Choosing optimism & why Jeb is Long America

Bitcoin vs AI: The Biggest Trade of the Decade? | Jordi Visser Oct 04, 2025

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Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we talk about why bitcoin is the purest AI trade available in the market, energy infrastructure, what is going on with the government shutdown, how interest rates, the Fed, the economy are all intertwined, and why prediction markets and tokenization are two big themes moving forward.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This episode is brought to you by Figure (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) for a Crypto Backed Loan (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply. Visit https://figuremarkets.com/borrow for more information.

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Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro
1:58 - Why bitcoin is the purest AI trade
12:37 - The impact of new energy infrastructure
17:47 - How Base Power is building a decentralized grid and other opportunities for investors
24:43 - Why retail spots themes before institutions
33:27 - Retail orange-pilling each other in public
38:19 - What is the impact of government shutdown on financial markets?
41:19 - The rise of prediction markets and tokenization
50:22 - Where to follow Jordi on the internet

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