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Bitcoin Is Just Getting Started (Most People Don’t See It Yet) | Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, & Bill Miller IV Mar 04, 2026

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Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, and Bill Miller IV join this panel recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss bitcoin as a long-term adoption story, why it represents sovereignty and “freedom money” for many, and how athletes and traditional finance investors think about allocating to it. We also cover common criticisms, the education gap, bitcoin vs. gold, and why the panel believes we’re still early in a multi-decade trend.

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0:00 – Intro: Bitcoiners vs the World
1:00 – Russell Okung on taking his salary in bitcoin
4:44 – Natalie Brunell’s bitcoin journey
7:25 – A traditional finance view on bitcoin
9:08 – The bitcoin mindset & sovereignty
14:45 – Bitcoin, hope, & the American dream
17:28 – What institutions think about bitcoin
19:32 – How to talk about bitcoin to different audiences

The Future of Bitcoin Treasury Companies | Phong Le & David Bailey Mar 03, 2026

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Phong Le is CEO of Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy), and David Bailey is CEO & Chairman of KindlyMD. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss Strategy’s evolution from a bitcoin holding company to a leveraged treasury and now a digital credit platform, including the launch of its perpetual preferred product designed to offer bitcoin exposure with lower volatility and yield. We also cover capital markets strategy, competition among bitcoin treasury companies, macro impacts, and bitcoin’s continued integration into Wall Street and global finance.

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0:00 - Intro
0:25 - Strategy’s three phases of buying bitcoin
7:04 - Bitcoin’s graduation into Wall Street & traditional finance
10:11 - Macro economy & Fed policy
12:01 - Would they ever sell their bitcoin holdings?
15:26 - Bitcoin, government policy, & political adoption
19:52 - The responsibility of running a public bitcoin company
26:35 - The future of bitcoin treasury models & consolidation

The AI Race Will Make Bitcoin EXPLODE | Jordi Visser Feb 28, 2026

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Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this episode, we break down the viral Citrini paper and whether AI disruption is being overstated or simply repriced by markets. We also discuss compressed software valuations, NVIDIA, shifting credit conditions, and why crypto and bitcoin could benefit in a world that increasingly needs speed, verification, and secure financial rails.

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0:00 – Intro
0:57 – The Citrini AI Paper debate
4:55 – Why software stocks are getting repriced
10:39 - Can AI replace SaaS companies?
15:53 – NVIDIA earnings & market regime shift
21:05 – Why crypto wins in the next cycle
29:37 – AI, government & autonomous weapons
36:39 – Deepfakes, spam & the need for crypto
41:29 – Survive vs Thrive: positioning for what’s next

The Biggest Shift in Bitcoin History Is Happening Now | Dan Tapiero & Robbie Mitchnick Feb 27, 2026

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Dan Tapiero is the Founder & CEO of 10T Holdings and 1RoundTable Partners, and Robbie Mitchnick is Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss the explosive growth of the spot Bitcoin ETF, how institutions now view Bitcoin within asset allocation, the impact of macro and Fed policy on crypto markets, and why traditional finance and digital assets are rapidly converging.

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0:00 - Intro
0:23 – Why the Bitcoin ETF was so successful & institutions enter
4:38 - Building beyond the Bitcoin ETF
8:03 - The bridge between TradFi & crypto
13:43 - How institutions think about allocations
17:40 - Macro, the Fed & liquidity impact on bitcoin
22:22 - Partnerships & building in digital assets

How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline Feb 26, 2026

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Chris Kline is the COO & Co-Founder of Bitcoin IRA. In this conversation, we discuss how wealthy investors use retirement accounts to reduce taxes, why volatility can create opportunities like Roth conversions, and the mistakes people make by holding assets in the wrong account. We also cover bitcoin in retirement portfolios, estate planning strategies, and how macro conditions like inflation, deflation, and Fed policy may impact long-term asset allocation.

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0:00 - Intro
1:55 – How to use the tax code to get in better position
2:51 – How 401(k)s replaced pensions (why it mattered)
6:20 – Tax advantages of non-W2 income & retirement accounts
9:08 – Long-term asset allocation & bitcoin in retirement
13:12 – Using Roth conversions during bitcoin drawdowns
21:10 – How taxes create massive long-term performance drag
22:39 – Borrowing against bitcoin instead of selling
28:29 – Inflation, deflation, & why government data lags reality
33:15 – What macro headwinds mean for assets and portfolios
36:38 – Bitcoin IRA tools, incentives, & next steps

Why Bitcoin Volatility Is the BULL Case | Jeff Park & Matt Cole Feb 25, 2026

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Matt Cole is the CEO of Strive Asset Management, and Jeff Park is a Partner & Chief Investment Officer at ProCap Financial. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin’s volatility doesn’t change the long-term story, how institutions think about drawdowns, and what today’s Fed policy could mean for bitcoin and other risk assets. We also touch on digital credit, bitcoin-backed yield, and why volatility may actually be one of bitcoin’s biggest advantages for long-term investors.

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0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Bitcoin volatility & Kevin Warsh impact
4:19 - QE, deflation, & monetary regime change
12:09 - The rise of digital credit & why bear markets build institutional track records
18:39 - Bitcoin treasury strategies & yield generation

Stablecoins Will Send Bitcoin MUCH HIGHER | Bo Hines Feb 24, 2026

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Bo Hines is the CEO of Tether US and a former White House crypto advisor who helped shape U.S. digital-asset policy during a critical moment for the industry. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss Bo’s work in the White House on crypto policy, including the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, the GENIUS Act, and the push for regulatory clarity. We also cover stablecoin adoption, why UX matters more than yield, how Tether is connecting global markets to U.S. capital, and why stablecoins could be the on-ramp to the next phase of bitcoin and financial infrastructure.

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0:00 - Intro
0:19 - White House crypto policy & Bo Hines’ role
2:52 - How important is the Clarity Act?
4:10 - Tether: scale, growth & global impact
10:49 - Stablecoin yield debate
12:37 - Financial access, wallets & the unbanked
14:19 - Tether’s relationship with Bitcoin
15:46 - Reserves, transparency & risk
17:24 - Interoperability & the future of stablecoins

Why The Fed Can't Ignore Bitcoin Anymore | Caitlin Long Feb 23, 2026

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Caitlin Long is the founder and CEO of Custodia Bank and a pioneer at the intersection of traditional finance and crypto. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we break down stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and U.S. banking regulation, explaining why stablecoins were pushed outside the banking system and how tokenized dollars could reshape payments and markets. We also discusses custody risk, bank account closures, bitcoin ETFs, and the key barriers still slowing crypto’s integration into traditional finance.

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0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Stablecoins, regulation & government control
4:00 - Bridging tradfi & crypto, bank closures
6:16 - How tokenization plays into all of this
8:05 - Bitcoin, custody risk & “not your keys”
9:51 - Bitcoin vs Gold
14:06 - What are some big milestones left?
15:28 - 7 Network Effects of Bitcoin: where are we now?
18:59 - Big banks, infrastructure risk & legacy systems
22:09 - What is next for Custodia Bank?

Bitcoin Is About to Absorb a Historic Rotation | Jordi Visser Feb 21, 2026

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Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with over 30 years of market experience and the author of VisserLabs Substack. In this episode, we break down what’s happening in software stocks, credit markets, and bitcoin — including how bitcoin could benefit in both inflationary and deflationary environments. We also explore real-world AI adoption, capital shifts, and a few surprising insights Jordi didn’t see coming.

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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Breaking down deflation & macro environment
5:49 - Why deflation pushes money into scarce assets
12:40 - Software stocks, AI, & multiple compression
18:45 - Why public companies may disappear
20:35 - Tokenization, RWAs, & on-chain markets
25:45 - What “agent swarms” actually are & security risks
38:42 - AI apps anyone can build & how to use AI
40:48 - Private credit stress & Blue Owl
49:45 - What Jordi is covering next

The Truth About Bitcoin’s Regulatory Win | Anthony Scaramucci Feb 20, 2026

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Anthony Scaramucci is the founder and managing partner of SkyBridge Capital and a longtime macro investor at the intersection of traditional finance, crypto, and politics. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, Scaramucci shares his candid views on Trump, crypto regulation, why the Clarity Act is critical for the industry, SkyBridge’s shift toward bitcoin, his early role in the BlackRock Bitcoin ETF, and why progress in Washington requires compromise. He also explains how demographics, regulation, and capital allocation shape bitcoin’s long-term future.

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0:00 - Intro
0:20 - Trump, politics & crypto context
4:12 - Why crypto regulation will pass
7:45 - Inside the BlackRock bitcoin ETF origin story
11:52 - SkyBridge’s pivot to bitcoin
18:17 - Biggest risk to bitcoin: demographics & old money
20:38 - Scaramucci’s politics podcast & final thoughts

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