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    The Pain Trade Podcast

    The Pain Trade Podcast — what it costs, and what it pays.

    In markets, the pain trade is the position that hurts to hold, and pays because it hurts. Every field has one: the last rep, the lean years, the comeback nobody expected.

    Weekly in-studio conversations with people who overcame what should have broken them — in business, in markets, in health, in life.

    Hosted by Michael A. Gayed, CFA — active portfolio manager, five-time Dow Award winner, founder of Lead-Lag Media, and publisher of The Lead-Lag Report.

    Health, fitness, finance, entrepreneurship, and the struggle that connects them. New episodes weekly.

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    Ed Yardeni on US Market Resilience, Tech Concentration Risks, and Inflation-Ready Portfolios Oct 27, 2024
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    Renowned economist Ed Yardeni joins me on Lead-Lag Live to unpack the roaring market trends and economic shifts of our time. Known for his bullish perspective, Ed sheds light on the resilience of the US economy, drawing fascinating parallels to historic periods like the 1920s and 1990s. We explore why expansions often last longer than recessions and how this outlook aligns with current market dynamics, especially the persistent appeal of large-cap stocks amidst a small-cap earnings stagnation.
    We'll navigate the intricate dance of market expectations with a focus on the Federal Reserve's maneuvers and the geopolitical undercurrents affecting gold prices. Our conversation critiques the concentration risk within the tech sector, reminiscent of the late 1990s, and delves into the realm of antitrust worries and fiscal policy's unpredictable impacts. Tune in to hear our insights on the necessity of maintaining objectivity in investment strategies, regardless of political climates, and how to construct a portfolio resilient to inflation, inspired by Mark Faber's risk parity model.
    In our exploration of global economic shifts, we discuss the US market's impressive performance since 2010 and its resilience in the face of global uncertainties, with a nod to India's emerging strength. Despite predictions of recession due to aggressive monetary tightening, the US economy's surprising robustness is noteworthy. We ponder the potential continuity of the current bull market into the decade's end and the risks of overheating, while also considering the influence of social media in shaping investment strategies. Join us for an enriching conversation that promises to expand your understanding of our evolving economic landscape.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Keith Dicker on Canadian Equities, Economic Challenges, and Portfolio Diversification Strategies Oct 26, 2024
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    Discover the layers of modern investing with Keith Dicker, founder and Chief Investment Officer of IceCap Asset Management, as we navigate the volatile world of Canadian equities and their global counterparts. Keith unveils the complexities of portfolio diversification beyond the traditional 60-40 split, urging investors to embrace a mix of cash, currencies, sovereign debt, credit, equities, and commodities. Together, we dissect the fervor surrounding equities and anticipate market shifts following the American elections, amid fears of a global economic slowdown.
    Canada's rapid population growth presents unique economic challenges, straining housing, infrastructure, and public services, while slowing economic output per capita and heightening recession risks. Keith and I discuss Canada's recession history, typically oil-driven and centered on Alberta, yet warn of potential balance sheet recessions impacting housing and corporate lending. The conversation expands to interest rate dynamics, exploring looming inflationary pressures and recession concerns in both Canada and the US, as dictated by the Bank of Canada and the Federal Reserve.
    Central banks might lean towards jumbo rate cuts, with the Bank of Canada poised for significant decisions as inflation hovers precariously. Keith and I delve into the possibility of a sovereign debt crisis and the intricate balancing act facing policymakers, reflecting on past economic policy failures. Commodities emerge as a critical component of diversified portfolios, offering a hedge against geopolitical and inflationary uncertainties. We champion a customized approach to portfolio management, especially for family offices, critiquing the investment industry's tendency to misattribute success and failure.

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    David Stockman on Reaganomics' Legacy, Fed Policy Challenges, and Future Economic Prospects Oct 25, 2024
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    Explore the complexities of modern capitalism with our insightful guest, David Stockman, the former budget director under Ronald Reagan. Discover how the legacy of Reaganomics continues to shape our economic landscape, as Stockman sheds light on the successes and failures of past fiscal policies. We're tackling the pressing challenges of federal deficits and monetary policy, offering a comprehensive look at how historical decisions impact today's and future administrations.
    Uncover the potential consequences of the Federal Reserve's monetary maneuvers on bond prices, interest rates, and market stability. We dive into the intricacies of maintaining low interest rates amidst persistent inflation and the looming specter of stagflation. Through a critical analysis of past and present economic cycles, such as the 2019 panic, we emphasize the delicate balance required to avoid recession and the limitations of the Fed's capabilities in influencing economic outcomes.
    Gain a global perspective on financial markets as we discuss the roles of hard assets like gold and Bitcoin in uncertain times. We'll also address geopolitical tensions and the potential implications for global debt issues. With a touch of optimism, we consider how artificial intelligence might drive future productivity, offering a possible avenue to navigate current financial challenges. Don't miss our spotlight on David Stockman's Counter Corner newsletter, a treasure trove of in-depth economic analysis and insights.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Michael Taylor on Bridging Science and Finance, Breast Cancer Philanthropy, and Healthcare Investment Innovations Oct 24, 2024
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    Michael Taylor, PM of the Pink Fund, shares his extraordinary journey from the lab to the world of finance, bringing a unique perspective on investment strategies in the healthcare sector. With a background in molecular biology, Michael has transitioned successfully from a gene therapy scientist to a key player in healthcare finance. Learn how his scientific insights have fueled the creation of Pink, a groundbreaking healthcare ETF that supports breast cancer research through the Susan G. Komen Foundation. This episode promises a rich exploration of how financial success can walk hand in hand with philanthropy, making a tangible difference in the fight against cancer.
    Get ready to navigate the complex landscape of active versus passive investing as we dissect the challenges of managing ETFs versus hedge funds. Michael offers a candid account of his experiences in shorting within the healthcare sector, highlighting the importance of maintaining a concentrated portfolio and the relentless pursuit of opportunities to generate alpha. With a spotlight on the role of leverage in high-stakes environments like Citadel, discover the intense pressures of performance and the clever strategies that hedge fund managers employ to stay ahead. This episode unpacks the delicate balance of risk and reward in the competitive world of healthcare finance.
    As we look toward the future, Michael offers a compelling vision of innovation-driven returns in the healthcare sector. From the surprising momentum of GLP-1 drugs to the transformative impact of AI in biotech, this conversation explores the evolving strategies that promise to reshape the industry. Hear firsthand how political changes and groundbreaking developments are influencing investment approaches, and why strategic research collaborations are key to understanding financial markets. Join us for an insightful dialogue that bridges science and finance, illustrating the power of informed investing with a philanthropic edge.
    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Simplify and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Gary Brode on Inflation Causes, China's Economic Impact, and Uranium's Energy Future Oct 23, 2024
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    Join me, Michael Gayed, as I sit down with seasoned investor Gary Brode to tackle some of the most pressing issues in the financial world today. How effective are current regulations in the fight against foreign money laundering, and what role does Senator Elizabeth Warren play in this landscape? We dissect the effectiveness of fines and discuss potential legislative changes needed to truly make an impact. Gary lends his expertise to a complex conversation on inflation, arguing it's more a product of unchecked government spending and debt monetization than Federal Reserve actions. His insights remind us of the historical pitfalls of fiat currencies, sparking a critical examination of systemic economic challenges.
    The conversation takes a global turn as we navigate the intricacies of China's economic stimulus and its far-reaching effects on international markets. Are such government-driven market interventions sustainable in the long run? Gary and I highlight the investment potential we see in small-cap and micro-cap companies that promise robust growth amidst these uncertainties. Bitcoin's role as a political talking point is more relevant than ever, with significant implications for investors seeking long-term gains. We discuss how understanding market misconceptions can uncover hidden opportunities for the astute investor.
    As global energy demands rise, we turn our focus to uranium and nuclear energy's pivotal role in achieving carbon-free energy generation. We address the supply and demand dynamics impacting uranium pricing and the challenges faced by major producers. With a nod to authenticity, I emphasize the importance of integrity in investment strategies, drawing on the genuine connections I've built over time, including my relationship with Gary. This episode is packed with insights for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of the current financial landscape and spot emerging investment opportunities.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Hal Lambert on Politically Driven Investing, Corporate Influence, and Navigating 2024 Election Impacts Oct 21, 2024
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    Discover the untapped potential of politically responsible investing with Hal Lambert of Point Bridge Capital in this thought-provoking episode. We unravel the mysteries behind market cap-weighted indices and explore how equally weighted strategies might better illuminate true security selection. Hal shares insights into the political currents shaping corporate America, especially how companies align with left-leaning pressures, and introduces us to his politically-focused ETF that has been thriving for seven years. This conversation challenges the status quo, offering a fresh perspective on investing in today's politically charged landscape.
    We take a deep dive into the influential role of corporate political contributions on both elections and business performance. Uncover how corporate PACs and employee donations wield significant influence, and how the shift from shareholder to stakeholder priorities has pulled corporate America leftward. With regulatory challenges on the horizon, this episode looks at how sectors like industrials and oil and gas, represented in the MAGA ETF, are strategically navigating these pressures. Hal and I discuss how these industries' conservative leanings are correlated with financial success and what that means for investors looking for political alignment in their portfolios.
    As the 2024 U.S. presidential election looms, we speculate on its potential impact on the economy and investment strategies. Delve into the nuances of how a Trump or Harris presidency might alter policy decisions, taxes, and economic growth. We also consider the broader implications of interest rate changes and a potentially divided government on financial markets. Concluding with an examination of ETF liquidity and tax efficiency, we highlight the unique offerings of the MAGA ETF for those eager to align their investments with their political beliefs. Engage with Hal Lambert through investpolitically.com for further insights into aligning your investments with your values.
    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Point Bridge Capital and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Danielle DiMartino Booth on Post-Pandemic Economic Trends, Inflation Metrics, and Investment Strategies Oct 19, 2024
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    Economic landscapes can be complex, especially in a post-pandemic world. Join us for an engaging discussion with Danielle DiMartino Booth, a former Federal Reserve insider, as she shares her insights on the evolving economic trends and the limitations of traditional inflation metrics. Discover how Jerome Powell's leadership and interest rate strategy draw parallels to the iconic Paul Volcker, and unravel the mystery behind rising 10-year rates amid the Fed's rate cuts. We also take a closer look at employment data, examining the potential for deeper job cuts and the quiet layoff strategies employed by major companies like Verizon.
    Economic narratives often paint a rosy picture, but how accurately do they reflect reality? Our conversation delves into the discrepancies between initial and final job creation reports and the impact of the birth-death model on perceived business creation. Explore the growing trend of gig work as a financial strategy and its implications for market confidence and valuations. As bullish narratives dominate, we question what lies beneath the surface and how these dynamics might shape the economic landscape.
    Looking toward the future, financial trends and predictions become crucial for investors. We analyze the potential decline in the federal funds rate and its effects on equity and bond investments, especially for older investors. Concerns about a resurgence of 1970s-style inflation and the housing market dynamics are on the table, with insights into the weakening consumer base. Danielle shares investment strategies, highlighting the importance of precious metals and well-managed municipal bonds in navigating this uncertain financial terrain. Tune in to gain a comprehensive understanding of these critical economic issues and their broader implications.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Jay Van Bavel on Social Media Tribalism, AI Influences, and Psychological Impact of Online Engagement Oct 17, 2024
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    Explore the transformative power of social media with Jay Van Bavel, a leading voice in psychology and neuroscience at NYU. Is the digital age reshaping how we connect—or divide? Join us as we dissect the moral and psychological landscapes carved out by platforms that amplify the loudest voices and often leave the silent majority unheard. From examining confirmation bias to the frenzy of algorithm-driven content, we shine a light on how our online habits mold polarized perceptions on urgent issues like politics and climate change.
    Our conversation takes you through the labyrinth of online engagement, where anonymity can give rise to the most extreme voices—and sometimes the most inauthentic interactions. Discover how the norms vary across platforms: LinkedIn’s professional demeanor versus the witty banter of Twitter or the curated lifestyles on Instagram. We also ponder the implications of AI-generated content, questioning how it might alter our trust and authenticity in digital spaces. Learn why unfollowing toxic influencers could be the mental health upgrade you didn’t know you needed.
    Finally, we unpack the psychological intricacies of personality traits that thrive—or suffer—under the scrutiny of social media. Is your social media feed a fast-food diet for the mind? Are we more tribal than we care to admit? With insights into the role of open science and AI, this episode doesn’t just stop at identifying the problems; it suggests pathways to a healthier, more authentic digital experience. Prepare for a compelling discussion that challenges you to rethink your digital habits and their impact on your mental well-being.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Neely Tamminga on Youth Employment Trends, Social Media Effects, and Financial Independence Challenges Oct 16, 2024
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    Ever wondered how a former Wall Street professional views the financial resilience of today's youth? Join us as we unpack the intriguing insights of Neely Tamminga, who now enlightens young minds as a college professor and consultant. From using preschool blocks to decode labor statistics, to understanding the financial hurdles faced by young adults, this episode promises a fresh perspective on economic challenges.
    Explore the transformative effects of social media and remote schooling on work ethics and housing aspirations among young adults. Neely sheds light on the entitlement culture around student loans and the stark financial realities of pursuing independence in today's economic climate. We dissect how these factors, coupled with the shockwaves of the COVID-19 pandemic, are reshaping expectations around work and living arrangements, and how these shifts are impacting financial independence.
    As the job market evolves, we examine the role of AI and the inevitable shifts in consumer spending habits. Discover how businesses are adapting to these changes, with insights into rising student loan defaults and the credit challenges facing young adults. Michael and Neely emphasize the importance of discipline, adaptability, and a supportive network in achieving success. Tune in to understand the intricate dynamics of the consumer economy and stay connected with Neely's journey on social media platforms for continuous inspiration.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Marc Cohodes on Market Corruption, Tech-Driven Valuations, and the Cannabis Industry's Growth Potential Oct 15, 2024
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    Market corruption is on the rise, and regulatory systems are struggling to keep up. Financial markets are becoming increasingly polarized, and the landscape is more complex than ever. Marc Cohodes, a seasoned investor and former hedge fund manager, shares his insights and firsthand experiences from a career that spans over four decades. Mark pulls back the curtain on the darker side of financial markets, exposing the fraud and corruption that have emerged alongside rapid technological advancements and an influx of capital. Together, we tackle the challenging role of social media in both exposing and perpetuating fraud, and the unique difficulties faced when the public turns against those who reveal high-profile fraud cases.
    The conversation doesn't stop at corruption; it extends to the striking transformation of the stock market in the post-COVID era. As speculative behaviors surge, fueled by influential figures and media outlets, the sustainability of such a market environment is under heavy scrutiny. We dive into the culture of quick riches, the volatility surrounding cryptocurrencies, and the dire need for stronger regulatory oversight, using the FTX scandal as a stark warning sign. Mark shares intriguing stories from his interactions with companies like NVIDIA, questioning the impact of the AI craze on valuations, and reflects on the societal and market polarization that challenges rational investment strategies.
    Finally, we turn our attention to the cannabis industry and its vast potential. Highlighting Glass House and its CEO, Kyle Kazan, we analyze the transformative possibilities within this rapidly evolving market. By comparing the current cannabis landscape to the post-prohibition alcohol industry, we anticipate the immense growth that could follow regulatory changes. Personal anecdotes about cannabis for pain management reinforce its benefits, advocating for decriminalization and a regulated, taxed industry that promises a bright future for companies like Glass House. Join us as we unravel the complex dynamics of financial markets and embrace the inevitability of change.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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