The NonFunGerbils Podcast

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Lisbon 25: Arthr & Animatttic Sep 30, 2025

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This episode features a powerful and honest conversation with Animatttic and Arthr from the Cult of Crypto Art, as they discuss why the core community of artists remains dedicated to the Web3 space. Recorded at the Non Fungible Conference in Lisbon, they share how the physical gatherings provide essential human connection and ground them from their solitary digital work.

The artists discuss their unique styles, like Arthr's audio visual focus and Animatttic's abstract work, and reveal how the NFT space offered them a freedom and empowerment they struggled to find elsewhere, even helping overcome personal hurdles like social anxiety. This is a must-listen for anyone seeking insight into the passionate, long-term builders of the crypto art scene, and why community continues to thrive even as market conditions fluctuate.

Watch the video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/rlFk3JYJMWg

Lisbon 25: Rizzle Sep 30, 2025

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This episode features an exclusive interview with Rizzle, who joins us to discuss his latest passion project, Babacci. After over a year in the making, Rizzle and his collaborators have finally launched this unique generative 3D NFT on the Base chain.

Rizzle dives into the technical challenges of creating a project that generates on the fly from code, a stark contrast to many pre-generated NFT collections. He shares the story behind the project's development and its community-first philosophy, designed for the "nerds" and "OGs" who are in the space for the love of the technology and art, not just for financial speculation.

Join us as Rizzle talks about building on Highlight.xyz, the importance of creating a low-cost, accessible art project, and the excitement of finally releasing a major work into the wild. Listen to find out why Babacci is a project for the community.

Lisbon 25: Defiant Squid Sep 30, 2025

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This episode features an exclusive conversation with Defiant Squid, where he shares the story behind his art book, a physical collection of his unique digital art.

Join us as he discusses how he catalogued his work into a tangible form and why he focuses on creating art that is both nostalgic and geometric. He also provides his insights on the current state of the NFT art market, reflecting on how the space has matured from hype cycles to a renewed focus on fundamentals, the role of artist royalties, and the importance of long-term commitment for creators.

Find out more about his work and his book at DefiantSquid.art

#51 Oona, Challenging the Conventional Nov 11, 2024

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Watch the video episode here: https://youtu.be/oGK6yK8tYgs

We are mixing it up this episode bringing back our previous guest Hueviews to and transforming her from interviewee to interviewer to speak to OONA.

We thought this concept would bring a different perspective and make for a really interesting conversation, we were right 😂🤭 Huge thanks to both Hueviews and OONA for this one.

OONA explores various themes around art, identity, performance, and challenges in the crypto art space, as well as societal and gender issues.

Key Topics 1) OONA's Identity 2) Origins and Inspiration 3) OONA's Symbolism and Performance Art 4) Performance Pieces 5) Themes of Consent and Feminine Agency 6) Tech and Blockchain Integration 7) Upcoming Projects and Collaborations 8) Social Impact and Advocacy

Key Points of Interest Unique Performance Methods: OONA employs unconventional approaches like masking, live interactions, and unexpected venues (e.g., basketball courts, art fairs) to challenge traditional art norms and provoke reactions from audiences.

Gender and Power Dynamics: OONA's interactions with men in the crypto space often unveil underlying power struggles and societal biases, which she critiques through humour and bold actions.

Artistic Process and Philosophy: OONA's work reflects a blend of raw improvisation and carefully crafted themes, with each performance designed to create spontaneous, real interactions that challenge societal norms.

Innovative Use of NFT and Blockchain: By integrating blockchain with art, OONA's projects often include audience participation that's documented and "tokenised," which allows each performance to exist as a collectible piece, further pushing the boundaries of what art and interaction can mean in the Web3 era.

This conversation presents a thought-provoking conversation on how performance art can act as a powerful medium for social critique and explores the complexities of identity and body politics in contemporary art and crypto spaces. OONA's performances and her unfiltered storytelling reveal the provocative, often humorous, and always insightful nature of her work.

https://x.com/madebyoona https://worshipoona.art/ https://nft.christies.com/auctions/bridging-worlds-digital-art-beyond-borders

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#50 Hueviews, Tactile Artistry Mar 20, 2024

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Watch the video episode here https://youtu.be/Gh-skb_Q7Yg Welcome to Episode 50 of NonFunGerbils, featuring the exceptionally creative Hueviews, a tactile artist known for her diverse body of work. Celebrating a milestone with her 1200th consecutive day of creativity, Hueviews shares her journey from photography and paper collages to embracing the digital world while maintaining her love for hands-on art. In this episode, we dive into her unique artistic process, the significance of tactile art, and her adventures in both the physical and digital realms of creation.

Hue Views also opens up about her discovery of the NFT space, her collaborative projects, and the impact of community on her work. Through a blend of personal anecdotes and insights into her artistic evolution, this episode explores the intersections of traditional art forms with digital innovation, the challenges and rewards of daily creativity, and the importance of community and collaboration in the evolving art landscape.

We also uncensor the #CensoredGerbil revealing the gerbil and the writer.

Key Discussion Points:

Tactile Art and Digital Creativity: Hue Views' exploration of physical art forms alongside digital projects, marking her 1200th consecutive day of art.
Collaborative Projects: Insights into her collaborative works, including notable projects with Josie and La Pan Mignon, highlighting the power of community in the NFT space.
Journey into NFTs: The transition from skepticism to embracing NFTs, influenced by her husband and the inspirational work of female artists.
Building Community: The role of art and collaboration in fostering a supportive community within the Web3 space.
Physical vs. Digital Art: Discussion on the significance of physical art in a predominantly digital era and Hue Views' approach to blending these mediums.
Daily Art Commitment: The impact of committing to daily art creation on personal growth and creative expression.
Future Endeavors: Hue Views shares her aspirations and plans for integrating more elements into her art, reflecting on the possibilities ahead.

See the Censored Gerbil

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#49 Anjali Young, Community and The Next 90 Million Users Dec 13, 2023

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Watch the video on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ud2PVP4FMY

Welcome to Episode 49 of NonFunGerbils, featuring Anjali Young, a pivotal figure in the realm of online community engagement. Anjali's impressive trajectory in the crypto world spans from moderating a massive 60,000-member Facebook community to establishing Collab.Land, a vital platform in Telegram & Discord, engaging over 3 million unique users.

A true pioneer, Anjali recognized the potential of Web3 communities early on. Her innovative work with Collab.Land has revolutionized the way crypto communities interact, especially through token gating.

This episode is an open conversation that dives into various engaging topics, including the importance of human connection, digital identity, and the significance of maintaining anonymity in the digital space.

Discussion Highlights:

Collabland's Role and Functionality: Detailed discussion about Collabland, its purpose, functionality, and impact on the crypto community.
Web3 and Crypto Discussions: Broader discussions about various aspects of Web3 and cryptocurrency, including their implications and future prospects.
NFTs and Digital Identity: The role of NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens) in digital identity and community building, as well as personal stories related to NFT experiences.
Importance of Anonymity and Privacy: The significance of anonymity and privacy in the crypto space, and how these principles are upheld or challenged.
Technical Aspects of Blockchain and Crypto: Discussions on more technical aspects of blockchain technology and cryptocurrency, including token gating, DAOs, and other related concepts.
Future Plans and Developments: Conversation about future plans, developments, and potential innovations in the crypto and blockchain industry.
User Onboarding and Activation: Strategies and challenges related to onboarding new users into the crypto space and activating them within communities.
Challenges and Risks in Crypto: Discussing the challenges, risks, and downsides of involvement in the crypto space, including scams and financial risks.
Personal Reflections and Opinions: Anjali shares her personal reflections, opinions, and predictions about the current state and future of the crypto industry.

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#48 GiselXFlorez, Exploring the Essence of Art & Light Nov 26, 2023

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Full notes available at: https://nonfungerbils.com/podcast/48-giselxflorez

We are thrilled to host GiselXFlorez - Artist in Light - with a lifetime of experience exploring a broad spectrum of mediums to create and connect with ART, which is in itself is many things. In this episode, we dive deep into the heart of art, discovering its profound connections to life, technology, and the human soul.

Gisel's Background and Art Philosophy: Gisel shares her journey as an artist, discussing her early interests in traditional art forms like painting and later transitioning to digital art. She defines art as an expression of life and a product of the human soul, emphasising the emotional and experiential aspects of art over technical skill alone.
Physical Art and NFTs: Gisel recounts her experiences in giving away physical pieces of her art at events, linking these to her digital artworks and NFTs. This bridges the gap between traditional and digital art forms.
The Role of AI in Art: The conversation delves into how AI is shaping art. Gisel views AI as a tool that regurgitates past human experiences and emphasizes the importance of human intent and the 'soul' in differentiating AI-generated art from human-created art.
Gisel's Projects and Collaborations: She discusses various projects, including her 'Moon Language' project, which involves photography of the moon paired with music to create a new form of expression. She also touches on other collaborative projects and her approach to integrating different art forms.
The Intersection of Art and Technology: The discussion explores how technology, particularly blockchain and NFTs, is creating new platforms and opportunities for artists. Gisel talks about how these technologies allow for more direct and varied expressions of creativity.
Art, Privacy, and Data Security: There's a segment of the conversation about the importance of privacy and data security in the digital age. Gisel expresses concerns about how personal data is harvested and the implications for artists and the general public.
The Future of Art and Society: The podcast touches upon broader themes of how art relates to societal changes, the role of artists in society, and how technology is reshaping both art creation and consumption.
Quantum Light Gerbil: The episode concludes with a discussion about involving the community in art creation, specifically mentioning a project called "Quantum Light Gerbil," where community members contribute ideas for a piece that Gisel will create.

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#47 Unmasking the realities of Censorship & Power on Ethereum with Joe Wait Nov 03, 2023

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Summary:

We welcome Joe Wait to discusses his thesis on censorship resistance within Ethereum and its broader implications for the cryptocurrency ecosystem. The conversation delves into the value of decentralisation, the Tornado Cash incident, and the challenges and debates within the blockchain space. Joe exposes some thought provoking issues with Power and Incentivisation on Ethereum and Bitcoin. This is a must listen Episode!

Key Talking Points:

Introduction and Background of Joe Wait:
- Joe Wait's introduction, his role at Superchain, and his journey into blockchain and cryptocurrency.
- His academic background in philosophy and transition to software project management.
- Initial skepticism about Ethereum and eventual belief in its potential.
Focus on Censorship Resistance in Ethereum:
- Discussion on Joe's thesis, "Towards an Evaluation of Ethereum's Censorship Resistance."
- Exploration of the value and importance of decentralisation in blockchain technology.
- Comparison of decentralisation to insurance or cybersecurity, emphasising preparation for low probability, high impact events.
Tornado Cash Incident:
- Explanation of Tornado Cash as an obfuscation tool on the Ethereum network.
- Discussion on legitimate uses of Tornado Cash for privacy and security.
- Examination of potential misuse of Tornado Cash for illicit activities.
- Analysis of the unprecedented nature of sanctioning a smart contract by OFAC.
- Discussion on the severe penalties associated with violating sanctions and the extended reach of U.S. jurisdiction.
Implications and Concerns:
- Exploration of the broader implications of the Tornado Cash incident on the decentralized autonomous code community.
- Concerns about the chilling effect on innovation and development within the blockchain space.
- Discussion on the arrest of individuals associated with Tornado Cash, highlighting issues related to jurisdiction and legal proceedings.
Ethereum Censorship Resistance and MEV Relays:
- Discussion on the centralisation risks associated with Ethereum, particularly in the context of MEV relays.
- The lucrative nature of MEV relays and the trend of vertical integration as centralising and potentially corrosive trends.
USDC and Real World Assets:
- Impact of non-duplicable assets, particularly stablecoins like USDC, on the blockchain ecosystem.
- Potential for regulatory capture and centralisation when real-world assets are involved.
BlackRock Bitcoin ETF and Forks:
- Concerns about the influence of financial instruments like ETFs on the cryptocurrency ecosystem.
- The potential for entities in control of these financial instruments to influence the network's direction.

NonFunGerbils Competition

Tweet us your stories for #CensoredGerbil - we'll make our favourite story into art, mint and send to everyone who sent in an entry This Gerbil is a collaboration with HueViews who will be creating the gerbil through embroidery. There will also be a single edition NFT available to buy which comes with the original physical work! #NonFunGerbils #CensoredGerbil

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#46 NFC 23 - Interviews in Lisbon ☀️ Jun 15, 2023

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We spent the week in Lisbon at the NonFungibleConference and collected interviews with the following amazing people:

5.40 Trevor Jones Castle Party Gerbil announcement 8.47 Lapin Mignon & Fanny Lakoubay 12.19 Toxsam - VIPE 16.01 Orlando - NFTees.com 18.47 Eleonora Brizi 20.30 Violet Jones 24.42 George Boya, Eclectic Method, Arthr & Skeenee 31.06 Carlos Marcial - Causality 36.03 Natalia Grunberg 38.07 Rose croft 41.17 Metageist 43.55 Gabe Weis (& Efdot) 50.27 Sturec 53.26 Jonathan Button 59.29 Ogar & Sebastien Borget (Sandbox) 1.02.57 Jessica Young - Permian 1.05.38 Quinn Button 1.12.02 Carla

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#45 John Karp, Conferences, Art, Royalties and all the NFT things May 09, 2023

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We welcome John Karp of NFT Factory, NFT morning and the Non Fungible Conference in Lisbon.

John is a delight to chat with and a fountain of knowledge. We covered so much about the NFT space, the Art space, What is ownership, Royalty wars and much more. He also gave us a peek into the upcoming Non Fungible Conference thats happening at the beginning of June. Stick around at the end for an extraordinary #BraveNewGerbil reading.

Apologies for some ground loop hum in my mic due to a faulty cable but it doesn't continue for the too long.

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