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306. TNE RESPONDS: The Black History You Don’t Know with Jemar Tisby Sep 11, 2024

Show notes

In this episode, Tim and Dr. Jemar Tisby discuss Dr. Tisby's new book, 'The Spirit of Justice,' which highlights key figures in the black Christian tradition who have pushed the church forward. They also explore the history of racial progress and the patterns of backlash that have occurred throughout history. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding and learning from the black history that is often overlooked or erased. The conversation explores the audacious story of Robert Smalls, a formerly enslaved person who stole a Confederate ship during the Civil War and escaped to freedom. It highlights the importance of political democratic participation for black people, even in the shadow of slavery and the Civil War. The conversation also delves into the themes of deconstruction and decolonization in the context of faith and politics, emphasizing the need to learn from black Christians and center their voices. It concludes with a discussion on the significance of history and the importance of studying racial history in our current cultural moment.

Highlights:

13:45 The Spirit of Justice

21:39 Courage and Resilience in the Face of Injustice

26:27 Uncovering Overlooked Black History

39:31 The Importance of Political Democratic Participation for Black People

45:21 Deconstruction and Decolonization: Learning from Black Christians

55:43 The Myth of Being on the Right Side of History

01:01:03 Principles over Party: Making Informed Political Choices

01:09:24 Taking Ownership of Our Education: Learning About Marginalized Communities

01:13:33 The Significance of History in Understanding Our Current Cultural Moment

Jemar's Website | jemartisby.com

Jemar's Books:

The Spirit of Justice: True Stories of Faith, Race, and Resistance

The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church’s Complicity in Racism

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305. TNE TALKS: The John the Baptist You’ve Never Heard of Sep 09, 2024

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In this episode, Tim interviews James McGrath, a Bible scholar and author of the book Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist. They discuss the misconceptions and stereotypes surrounding John the Baptist and how understanding him better can lead to a better understanding of Jesus.

Highlights

00:00 Introduction and Overview

03:40 The Two Books on John the Baptist

08:12 John the Baptist: An Anti-Establishment Figure

11:56 The Impact and Fame of John the Baptist

26:04 Jesus' Association with John's Movement

28:24 John the Baptist and Jesus: A Shared Movement within Judaism

33:14 Challenging Established Religious Practices: Animal Sacrifice and the Temple

39:38 John's Emphasis on Social and Economic Justice

45:15 Calling for System Change: John's Message of Transformation

50:03 Inclusivity and Expansiveness: A Theme in the Bible and Christian Tradition

James's Book | Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist

Jame's on X | @ReligionProf

The Devil Wears Prada | Danger Wild Man

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304. TNE RECAPS: The Double Standards of Christian Nationalists Sep 06, 2024

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In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including parenting, gun control, and a lawsuit challenging the Johnson Amendment. They express frustration with the lack of action on gun control and the hypocrisy of some evangelical Christians who advocate for pro-life policies but resist common-sense gun regulations. They also highlight the lawsuit filed by the National Religious Broadcasters and two Baptist churches against the IRS, seeking the ability to endorse political candidates without risking their tax-exempt status. The hosts emphasize the importance of maintaining the separation of church and state and the need for responsible gun ownership. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss two separate topics. First, they talk about James and Bridget Morris, who are starting a new church after James resigned from Gateway Church. They discuss the allegations against James' father, Robert Morris, and the questionable actions of the church. They find her website and discuss the extravagant offerings she provides. Finally, they briefly mention a video they found called the 'Bible Band' and JD Vance's comments on childcare. In this final part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss the fear-mongering and persecution complex within certain segments of Christianity.

Chapters

23:05 Lawsuit Challenges Johnson Amendment

26:26 Maintaining the Separation of Church and State

31:14 The Need for Responsible Gun Ownership

33:13 Questionable Actions and New Beginnings: The Morris Family and Gateway Church

40:10 Exploiting Faith: The Exorbitant Price of Nicole Crank's Mastermind Course

57:15 Lack of Understanding: JD Vance's Comments on Childcare

01:07:33 Discussion on Fear-Mongering and Persecution Complex

01:10:54 Personal Experiences and Leaving Christian Nationalism

01:12:35 Analysis of Eric Metaxas' Misinterpretation of Bonhoeffer

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303. TNE RESPONDS: Why a 3rd Party Candidate Will Never Win Sep 04, 2024

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In this episode, Tim and Sharon McMahon discuss how the U.S. election system works and why third-party candidates struggle to gain traction. They explore the role of the Electoral College, winner-take-all systems, and faithless electors. They also touch on the historical context of the Electoral College and the reasons behind its creation. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the electoral process and its impact on elections. It also delves into the limitations of the Electoral College and the challenges it poses to third-party candidates.

Highlights

04:15 The Need to Understand the U.S. Election System

06:08 The Role of the Electoral College

09:25 Winner-Take-All Systems and Popularity Contests

17:06 The Historical Context of the Electoral College

23:10 Faithless Electors and Their Impact

28:34 The Disparity in Electoral Votes

32:56 The Allocation of Electoral Votes

46:02 Potential Solutions: Proportional Allocation and Ranked Choice Voting

56:43 The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

59:32 The Need for Structural Changes

Preorder Sharon's Book! | The Small and the Mighty

Sharon's Website | sharonmcmahon.com

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302. TNE TALKS (PART 1): A Sobering But NEEDED Discussion with Ed Uszynski Sep 02, 2024

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Watch this on YouTube

PART 1:

In this conversation (originally aired on YouTube), Tim and Ed discuss their journeys of faith and the different paths that led them to their current beliefs. They explore the concept of truth and the role of evangelism in sharing the good news of Jesus. They also touch on the negative aspects of evangelicalism and the need for a more inclusive and loving approach to faith. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Ed discuss the boundaries and lines drawn in Christian beliefs and practices. They explore the concept of evangelism and the impact of purity culture. Tim shares his perspective on the importance of boundaries and rules in the Christian faith, while also acknowledging the need for reevaluation and renegotiation of these boundaries. They touch on topics such as hell, biblical worldview, and the interpretation of scripture. Tim emphasizes the themes of liberation and the expansion of God's blessing in scripture.

Takeaways

The personal journey of faith is unique for each individual and can be influenced by various factors.
The concept of truth in relation to faith is complex and can be interpreted differently by different people.
Evangelism should be approached with love and inclusivity, rather than judgment and exclusion.
There is a need for a more authentic and compassionate expression of Christianity that reflects the teachings of Jesus. Boundaries and rules in the Christian faith can provide guidance and protection, but they should also be open to reevaluation and renegotiation.
The interpretation of scripture and the concept of a biblical worldview can vary among individuals and Christian traditions.
Christian nationalism, which seeks to enforce Christian beliefs and laws on society, can be a threat to religious freedom and the well-being of marginalized groups.
Government can play a role in addressing social and economic issues
Christians should advocate for social justice and care for marginalized groups
Misconceptions and controversies surrounding Marxism and its compatibility with Christianity
The importance of loving and accepting all individuals

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

19:10 Personal Journeys of Faith

25:43 Exploring the Concept of Truth

29:16 Reimagining Evangelism

43:23 Exploring Boundaries and Rules in the Christian Faith

53:31 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism and the Erasure of Boundaries

58:13 Navigating Controversial Topics: Sexuality and Gender

01:06:23 Striving for Balance: Advocating for Justice and Respecting Individual Beliefs

01:44:36 Exploring the Sociological Aspects of Marxism

01:53:16 Advocating for Social Justice and Care for Marginalized Groups

02:04:02 The Importance of Loving and Accepting All Individuals

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We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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302. TNE TALKS (PART 2): A Sobering But NEEDED Discussion with Ed Uszynski Sep 02, 2024

Show notes

Watch this on YouTube

PART 2:

In part two (originally aired on YouTube), Tim and Ed discuss critical race theory (CRT) and its relevance to the church. Ed explains that he wrote his book, 'Untangling Critical Race Theory,' to provide a more accurate understanding of CRT and its potential benefits for Christians. They discuss the five tenets of CRT, which focus on the ongoing racial disparities and inequalities in American society. They also explore the resistance and politicization of CRT, as well as the need for Christians to engage in conversations about race and justice. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Ed discuss their views on the white evangelical structures and systems. Tim expresses his belief that these structures are deeply flawed and soaked in racist ideology, and he sees little hope for reforming them. He suggests that the church can move forward by dismantling these structures and rethinking what it means to love God and love your neighbor in community. Ed, on the other hand, acknowledges the flaws in these systems but believes in holding them accountable and working towards a better way forward. He emphasizes the importance of provoking people to see a different way of doing things and planting seeds for change.

Takeaways

Critical race theory (CRT) is a framework that examines the ongoing racial disparities and inequalities in American society.
CRT seeks to reveal and confront how dominant culture racial power works through laws, policies, and patterns to maintain a racial hierarchy.
The resistance and politicization of CRT have led to misconceptions and misunderstandings about its purpose and potential benefits.
Christians should engage in conversations about race and justice, centering the voices and experiences of marginalized communities. The white evangelical structures and systems are deeply flawed and soaked in racist ideology.
Tim believes that these structures are not salvageable and should be dismantled, while Ed believes in holding them accountable and working towards a better way forward.
Both Tim and Ed emphasize the importance of provoking people to see a different way of doing things and planting seeds for change.
They agree that the church can move forward by rethinking what it means to love God and love your neighbor in community.

Chapters

00:00 Understanding Critical Race Theory

05:32 Challenging Misconceptions

12:29 The Resistance and Politicization

26:09 Engaging in Conversations about Race and Justice

01:05:36 The Flaws of White Evangelical Structures and Systems

01:06:34 Dismantling vs. Holding Accountable: Perspectives on Reform

01:10:24 Provoking Change and Planting Seeds for a Better Way Forward

01:14:15 Rethinking Love for God and Neighbor in Community

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301. TNE RECAPS: RFK Speaks Nothing But CONSPIRACY Lies! Aug 30, 2024

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In this RECAPS episode, Tim, April, and Andrew discuss the link between conspiracy theories and Christian nationalism. They explore the rise of conspiracy theories in white evangelical spaces and the normalization of these theories. They also examine the connection between Christian nationalism and vaccine skepticism, highlighting the role of epistemology and group identity in shaping beliefs. The conversation delves into the challenges of engaging with conspiracy theorists and the impact of media silos. The hosts emphasize the need for critical thinking, openness to new information, and a nuanced understanding of science. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various conspiracy theories and misinformation propagated by Christian nationalists. They highlight the prevalence of conspiratorial thinking within this group and its potential impact on political discourse.

Takeaways

There is a growing link between conspiracy theories and Christian nationalism, particularly in white evangelical spaces.
Christian nationalism's cultural elements, such as authoritarian social control and a desire for traditionalist hierarchy, make it more susceptible to conspiratorial thinking.
Christian nationalism and vaccine skepticism are strongly correlated, with believers more likely to reject vaccines and embrace conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theories thrive in times of stress and uncertainty, providing a sense of control and someone to blame.
Science is not a dogma but a process of testing and evolving based on new evidence. Openness to new information is crucial for combating conspiracy theories. Conspiratorial thinking is prevalent within the Christian nationalist movement.
Some Christian nationalists exhibit toxic masculinity and engage in harmful rhetoric.
The intersection of Christian nationalism and conspiracy theories has implications for political discourse and public opinion.

Chapters

01:45 Diving into Conspiracy Theories and Christian Nationalism

08:14 RFK Jr.'s Conspiracy Theories and Vaccine Skepticism

14:14 The Link Between Christian Nationalism and Conspiracy Beliefs

26:20 The Appeal of Conspiracy Theories to Christian Nationalists

31:02 The Intersection of Beliefs: Mark of the Beast and Other Conspiracies

35:14 Navigating Skepticism, Solutions, and Science

38:41 Conspiratorial Thinking in the Christian Nationalist Movement

49:51 Inconsistencies in the Pro-Life Movement

56:09 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Political Discourse

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300. TNE RECAPS: Behind the Scenes at the DNC Aug 28, 2024

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Tim and April discuss Tim's experience at the Democratic National Convention (DNC) and his observations of the event. Tim shares the challenges he faced in getting to the DNC, including flight cancellations and delays. He also highlights the diversity of the DNC and the presence of various voices and perspectives. However, he expresses disappointment over the lack of Palestinian representation on the stage and the emphasis on the military-industrial complex. Tim also discusses the role of faith at the DNC and the perception that faith voices are not always recognized or valued within the party. He raises concerns about the DNC's understanding of the motivations behind the MAGA movement and the missed opportunity to engage with conservative Christians who are seeking a new political home. The conversation covered various topics, including the presence of Planned Parenthood at the DNC, the need for Democrats to address abortion more effectively, the inclusivity of the New Evangelicals community, the upcoming Theology Beer Camp, the decline in abortion rates under Democratic presidents, the concern of the Democratic party becoming more moderate, the positive moments at the DNC, the gray cloud over the lack of Palestinian voices, and the presence of protesters at the event.

Takeaways

Tim faced numerous challenges in getting to the DNC, including flight cancellations and delays.
The DNC showcased diversity and included various voices and perspectives.
Tim was disappointed by the lack of Palestinian representation on the stage and the emphasis on the military-industrial complex.
The DNC may be missing an opportunity to engage with conservative Christians and understand the motivations behind the MAGA movement. Planned Parenthood was present at the DNC, but it was not sponsored by the DNC and the idea of having a Planned Parenthood bus was not a DNC initiative.
Democrats need to address abortion more effectively by providing more nuance and education about the topic, including the reasons behind abortions and the efforts to lower abortion rates through comprehensive sex education and access to birth control.
Abortion rates have declined the most under Democratic presidents, and the hardline ban on abortions does not effectively reduce the number of abortions and can lead to negative consequences such as increased maternal and infant mortality rates.
The lack of Palestinian voices at the DNC was a disappointment and highlighted the need for more inclusivity and advocacy for the Palestinian cause.

Chapters

03:22 Challenges and Delays: Tim's Journey to the DNC

12:11 Diversity and Voices at the DNC

17:23 Disappointment over Lack of Palestinian Representation

23:01 The Role of Faith at the DNC

31:01 Understanding the Motivations Behind the MAGA Movement

38:28 The Decline in Abortion Rates under Democratic Presidents

48:40 The Concern of the Democratic Party Becoming More Moderate

01:00:37 The Gray Cloud Over the Lack of Palestinian Voices

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299. TNE TALKS: IVF From a Woman's Perspective Aug 26, 2024

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In this episode, Tim interviews Alexandra Hamrick, also known as Ali, who shares her personal experience with IVF and her advocacy for endometriosis. Ali discusses her journey with IVF, the challenges of living with endometriosis, and the importance of raising awareness and providing support for women facing infertility.

Takeaways

IVF and endometriosis are important topics that need more awareness and understanding
Living with endometriosis can be extremely painful and can lead to infertility
The medical system needs to improve its treatment of women and reproductive health
There is a need for better education and support in the church for women facing infertility.
IVF is a complex and multifaceted process that involves emotional, physical, and financial challenges.
Misinformation and stigma surrounding IVF, particularly within certain religious and political circles, can hinder access to and understanding of the procedure.
Advocacy and support for IVF rights are crucial in ensuring access to fertility treatments and protecting individuals and couples seeking to build their families.
Organizations like Resolve provide resources and support for individuals and couples navigating the IVF journey.
Understanding and compassion are essential in addressing the complexities of IVF and supporting those going through the process.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

01:00 The Power of IVF and Endometriosis Advocacy

03:15 Understanding Endometriosis and its Impact on Fertility

08:29 The Journey of Medically Answered Prayers

13:22 The Painful Reality of Endometriosis

18:00 Challenges in the Medical System and the Church

22:08 Diagnosis and Treatment of Endometriosis

24:22 The Challenges of Infertility

25:20 Putting Dreams on Hold

26:15 The Success of IVF

29:58 The Role of Embryologists

31:49 Dispelling Misinformation about IVF

34:15 The Impact of Stigmatizing Statements

36:36 Supportive Voices in the IVF Conversation

48:37 Resources for IVF Support

Alexandra's Website | The Infertility Doula

Alexandra's Instagram | @alexandrachamrick

resolve.org

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TNE UPDATE: Tim's at The DNC Aug 23, 2024

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While Tim's away at the DNC, producer Josh Gilbert hops in to introduce himself to listeners. No RECAP episode this week as Tim is away, but stay tuned to next week's full schedule of episodes.

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