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**The National Security Podcast**

Expert analysis, insights and opinion on the national security challenges facing Australia and the Indo-Pacific.

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Who decides? Courts, citizenship, and national security Mar 06, 2025

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How does the exercise of judicial power shape national security law and policymaking in Australia?

What legal safeguards exist to balance civil liberties and national security?

Why do the principles of citizenship matter in Australia’s legal system and national security decisions?

In this episode, Rebecca Ananian-Welsh and Sangeetha Pillai join Danielle Ireland-Piper to explore the separation of powers in national security law in Australia, the role of courts, and the challenges surrounding citizenship laws.

Associate Professor Rebecca Ananian-Welsh is a constitutional law scholar and Editor of the University of Queensland Law Journal at the TC Beirne School of Law, The University of Queensland.

Dr Sangeetha Pillai is a constitutional lawyer and writer, and an expert on Australian citizenship, migration and refugee law.

Associate Professor Danielle-Ireland Piper is Academic Director at the ANU National Security College (NSC).

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· NSC academic programs – find out more

· Reassessing national security law for modern threats

· Why national security law is “more than the sum of its parts”

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

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Contest for the High North: Greenland and Arctic security Feb 27, 2025

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Why is everyone suddenly talking about Greenland?

How will Arctic security be impacted by rising great power competition?

How have US neighbours and allies responded?

In this episode, Iselin Németh Winther and Heather Exner-Pirot join David Andrews to explore the evolving significance of Arctic security, the uncertainties for Greenland under Donald Trump, and the potential impact of Arctic power dynamics on global governance.

Iselin Németh Winther is a researcher at the Fridtjof Nansen Institute in Oslo. She specialises in the geopolitics and security dynamics of the Arctic.

Dr Heather Exner-Pirot is a Senior Fellow and Director of Energy, Natural Resources and Environment at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute in Ottawa and Managing Editor of The Arctic Yearbook.

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC).

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· NSC academic programs – find out more

· We Went to Greenland to Ask About a Trump Takeover

· Why Donald Trump wants Greenland

· The long struggle for Greenland

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BRICS and the global order: shifting tides or a club of convenience? Feb 20, 2025

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Is BRICS primarily a challenge to Western-led institutions, or does it serve a broader purpose in global governance?

How effective has BRICS been at pursuing its objectives?

Does BRICS membership provide newer states with greater strategic influence through engagement with major economies like China, India, and Russia?

In this episode, Flavia Zimmermann and Fitriani join David Andrews to explore the evolving role of BRICS, its effectiveness, and its potential influence on global governance and power dynamics.

Dr Flavia Bellieni Zimmermann is a Lecturer in Public Policy in the school of Social and Political Sciences at the University of Melbourne and an international political analyst.

Dr Fitriani is a senior analyst with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute's Cyber, Technology and Security program, specialising in hybrid threats in the Indo-Pacific, as well as foreign policy and non-traditional security issues.

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC).

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NSC academic programs – find out more
Joining BRICS, Indonesia sticks with multi-alignment strategy
 BRICS 2025
2025 UNFCCC COP 30

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

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Africa: Australia’s Indo-Pacific “blind spot” Feb 13, 2025

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How should Australia strengthen engagement with Africa?

How do perceptions of Africa influence Australia’s approach to bilateral and regional partnerships, and what opportunities might we be overlooking?

How do African nations view China? And how does China shape the dynamics of African geopolitics?

In this episode, Babatunde Obamamoye, Matthew Neuhaus and Lisa Filipetto join David Andrews and Melissa Permezel to discuss opportunities and barriers to Africa–Australia relations and the role of perception in engagement.

Dr Babatunde Obamamoye is a sessional lecturer in the Department of International Relations at the Australian National University (ANU).

Matthew Neuhaus is an Honorary Professor at the ANU College of Law.

Lisa Filipetto AM is a former United Nations Assistant Secretary General, leading the UN Peace Operations Support Mission in Somalia from 2018 to 2023.

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC).

Dr Melissa Permezel is an Advisor at NSC’s Futures Hub and the convenor of NSC’s Africa Working Group.

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NSC academic programs – find out more
Matthew Neuhaus: Australia needs to take Africa seriously – really, this time
Ibrahim Index of African Governance

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. 

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The power of fiction and storytelling in understanding national security Feb 06, 2025

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How can fiction and storytelling effectively engage the public with the complex challenges of national security?

How does storytelling bridge gaps in historical narratives and deepen our understanding of contemporary conflicts?

How can fiction help project future scenarios and explore potential outcomes?

In this episode, Misha Zelinsky and Mick Ryan join David Andrews to explore the intersection of fiction and national security – sharing personal experiences on how storytelling can shape public perceptions, and inspire action in the realm.

Misha Zelinsky is an Expert Associate with the ANU National Security College. He is a leading authority on the rise of global authoritarianism, a Fulbright Scholar, economist, lawyer, and author.

Major General (Retd) Mick Ryan AM is a Senior Fellow for Military Studies in the Lowy Institute’s International Security Program. He spent 35 years in the Australian Army and had the honour of commanding soldiers at multiple levels.

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC.

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NSC academic programs – find out more
The Sun Will Rise by Misha Zelinsky
White Sun War: The Campaign for Taiwan by Mick Ryan
Zero Day (Taiwanese TV show)

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

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Think you can identify misinformation online? Research shows you probably can’t Dec 19, 2024

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Only three percent of Australian adults were able to demonstrate the ability to verify information online, in a recent study.

How can media literacy help inoculate citizens against mis- and disinformation?

Why are critical thinking and media skills essential in a thriving democracy?

And how can best-practice examples from around the globe and leading domestic research help shape the recently announced National Media Literacy Strategy?

In this episode, Tanya Notley and Sora Park join Tim Wilford to discuss Australian media habits, media literacy, and how people can better equip themselves to identify mis/disinformation.

Professor Sora Park is a Professor of Communication and a Professorial Research Fellow at the University of Canberra's News and Media Research Centre.

Associate Professor Tanya Notley is an Associate Professor at Western Sydney University's Institute for Culture and Society.

Tim Wilford is Senior Manager, Policy and Engagement at the ANU National Security College.

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NSC academic programs
Digital news report: Australia
Adult media literacy in 2024
News and young Australians
Towards a national media literacy strategy
Online misinformation in Australia
News media assistance program
Media literacy and education in Finland
The full list of materials on media literacy can be found here.

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

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Pat Conroy on defending Australia and Pacific partnerships Dec 12, 2024

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How can Australia continue to champion the rules-based order, while balancing its strategic relationships and defence priorities?

How is the government modernising the Australian Defence Force to address evolving challenges?

What is Australia doing to ensure it remains the partner of choice in the Pacific? And how does the NRL deal with PNG impact security in the region?

In this episode, Pat Conroy joins Rory Medcalf to discuss his strategic worldview, Australia’s ties with the Pacific and the Albanese Government’s continued push to invest more in the Australian Defence Force.

The Hon Pat Conroy MP is the Minister for Defence Industry and Capability Delivery and the Minister for International Development and the Pacific.

Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.

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NSC academic programs – find out more   
Address to the National Press Club by the Hon Pat Conroy MP
Defence Strategic Review 2023
Address to the Hunter Defence Conference Gala Dinner by the Hon Pat Conroy MP

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. 

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Andrew Hastie on social cohesion, defence, and strategic challenges Dec 05, 2024

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As the notion of a single ‘global theatre of struggle’ gains traction, what are the major challenges that Australia currently faces?

How has Australia’s defence investment evolved over the years, and is the nation equipped to address today’s pressing challenges?

What steps can Australia take to strengthen social cohesion while navigating political compromise and disruptive forces?

In this episode, Andrew Hastie joins Rory Medcalf to discuss his formative influences, strategic worldviews, and Australia’s defence challenges.

The Hon Andrew Hastie MP is the Shadow Minister for Defence, Shadow Minister for Defence Industry, and Shadow Minister for Defence Personnel.

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NSC academic programs – find out more
The Hon Andrew Hastie MP’s speech at Securing our Future
What are the most underappreciated threats to Australia’s security?

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

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‘I have concepts of a plan’: what to expect from Trump 2.0 Nov 28, 2024

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How does the United States' presidential transition process work, and how does it compare to the Australian electoral system?

How might the election of Donald Trump impact US foreign and security policies?

How can Australia best engage with a new Trump administration on critical issues like AUKUS, defence strategy, and tariffs?

In this episode, Charles Edel joins Bianca Birdsall to discuss the election of Donald Trump to the US presidency, his proposed cabinet and staff nominees, and the security and foreign policy implications of a new administration for Australia and its region.

Dr Charles Edel is a Senior Advisor and inaugural Australia Chair at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies.

Bianca Birdsall is a Senior Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC).

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Listener survey: The National Security Podcast
NSC academic programs – find out more
Inflation Reduction Act | U.S. Department of the Treasury

We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

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Trust and leadership in intelligence and national security: Women in National Security Nov 21, 2024

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How does our strategic environment inform leadership in intelligence and national security?

How do partnerships assist intel collection in an increasingly complex world?

What are the foundations of trust in a leader?

This episode is a panel discussion, hosted by Meg Tapia at the 2024 Women in National Security LIVE, features Kerri Hartland, Heather Smith, and Heather Cook. They explore leadership in a complex strategic environment, being a 'first,' and the importance of relationships in national security.

Kerri Hartland is the Director-General of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service.

Dr Heather Smith PSM FAIIA is the National President of the Australian Institute of International Affairs.

Heather Cook is the Chief Executive Officer of the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission.

Meg Tapia is an Expert Associate at the ANU National Security College.

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We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au.You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.

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