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On Bailouts, Being "Too Big to Fail," and Little Luxuries Apr 09, 2025

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In this week’s Rich Girl Roundup review—joined by a special surprise guest—we’re discussing your feedback, critiques, and questions about…
The episode which generated the most fascinating follow-up questions of this batch
Perhaps the most popular interview we’ve produced in the last year
A conversation which generated a few messages about the power of design that I can’t stop thinking about
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/bailouts.
Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs.
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Money, Fashion, and the Aesthetics of Class Politics Apr 02, 2025

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When I met Véronique Hyland, author of the bestselling book Dress Code and ELLE’s fashion features director, about how fashion intersects with politics, gender, and class (and the person who coined the term ‘millennial pink’!), I wanted to talk to her about:
👊🏼 The role of aesthetics in labor movement-building and persuasion campaigns, from tradwife influencers to union leaders
🎽 Why one-size-fits-all flammable crop top brand Brandy Melville also sells literature about libertarian economic policy
💰 What current income and consumption trends—like that almost 50% of all consumption is driven by the top 10% of earners—might portend for fashion trends like “underconsumption”
🥂 And finally, how the time-honored fascination with mimicking “upper class” dress reveals the underlying assumption that the only way to have (or look like you have) a nice life, is to be rich
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/fashion.
Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs.
All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US-listed, registered securities, options and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA & SIPC. Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. Alpha is an AI research tool powered by GPT-4. Output from Alpha is not investment advice and should be verified for accuracy.
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Why Economist Kathryn Edwards is Optimistic About America’s Future Mar 26, 2025

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2025’s financial news cycle feels like a broken wind-up doll, where recession indicators, unemployment numbers, inflation data, and tax cuts are #JustTheTip of an unsettling iceberg. So, this week, we’re joined by economist Kathryn Edwards (aka “Keds Economist”), and I got to ask her about:
🧠 The no-brainer policy with a huge ROI that nobody’s talking about
✂️ The fundamental flaw with using tax policy (read: tax cuts) to stimulate growth
🇺🇸 Her honest POV on America’s economic outlook and “recession-proofing” a household
👊🏼 The limits of “empowerment” rhetoric, which often tries to use cultural or social nudging to solve problems that simply require money
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/economic-future.
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Is This Simple Idea the Solution for America's Wealth Inequality? Mar 19, 2025

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It’s easy to point out that wealth inequality in America is a problem. It’s much harder to identify realistic fixes. But what if there were a simple, elegant solution? In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Matt Bruenig, a former National Labor Relations Board lawyer and policy expert who’s one of the brightest minds in this space. This conversation will get you thinking differently (and bigger) about money, the economy, and wealth—and why a solidarity economy is stronger for everyone.
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/social-wealth-funds.
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On "Return to Office" & Daycare as Class Issues, the Role of Profit, and Being "Entitled" Mar 05, 2025

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It’s hard to believe, but somehow it’s already time for another Rich Girl Roundup about our last three deep dives:
The Real Cost of Being a Working Parent, to which Rich Dad Nation had a decidedly mixed response
How Home Insurance and Climate Change are Upending the Real Estate Market, which introduced some good questions about the role of everything from technology to sabotage in effecting change
The Truth About “Government Waste,” Privatizing Public Goods, & Turning Citizens into Customers, which generated an absolute treasure trove of stories from government workers
We’ll give y’all one guess which generated the lion’s share of emails—this batch of feedback had a surprising amount of tea, so don’t miss it.
(00:00) Introduction
(01:44) General feedback we've heard recently
(08:00) Feedback on the "Working Parents/Childcare" episode
(34:45) The "Disappointed Dads" feedback
(47:22) Return to office and entitlement
(54:39) Feedback on the "Home Insurance & Climate Change" episode
(01:08:20) Connecting our "Climate Change" and "Privatization" episodes
(01:17:03) Feedback on the "Privatization" episode
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/rto-daycare.
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The Truth about "Government Waste," Privatizing Public Goods, & Turning Citizens into Customers Feb 26, 2025

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For years, I’ve referenced the book The Privatization of Everything as a seminal work in my understanding of the relationship between government and the private sector. So given the recent DOGE of it all, it seemed like a great time to revisit this conversation—now with one of its authors, Donald Cohen. We discuss the role privatization plays in government waste, and who stands to gain from the transformation of public funds into private wealth. (Hint: It’s not the public!)
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/privatization.
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How Home Insurance and Climate Change are Upending the Real Estate Market Feb 19, 2025

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The average middle class family has 67% of their net worth tied up in its primary residence. But there’s one looming issue: Rising insurance rates and climate change are threatening those property values—and they might be the canary in the coal mine of the American Dream.
We’re joined by Dr. Jeremy Porter, author of the First Street report at the center of most recent insurance analyses. We discuss insurers pulling out of “high-risk” states, “insurers of last resort” in those states, climate-driven migration patterns we’re already seeing, and how this is likely to play out over the next few decades.
So yes, this episode is about real estate, insurance, and climate risk—but it’s also about the assumptions underpinning wealth in America, and what it means if they’re changing.
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/climate-change.
Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs.
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The Real Cost of Being a Working Parent Feb 12, 2025

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In the past, we covered the national average costs for different types of child care and how it may be directly related to the gender wage and wealth gap. But Eryn Schultz, a CFP known as Her Personal Finance online, reached out to say the data was vastly undershooting the realities of working parents she works with. She joins us today to share the real costs of childcare and what working parents in the US contend with.
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/working-parents.
Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs.
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On "Dangerous" Financial Advice, Downsizing, and Dying with Zero Feb 05, 2025

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It's our first newly revamped Rich Girl Roundup of 2025, and we’re taking you on a scenic guided tour of the chatter spurred from recent episodes: our most contentious episode to date, one that generated moving revelations from listeners, and the two-part series that ended up being less polarizing than we expected.
We also discuss how to jerry-rig your Wealth Planner to project a “Die with Zero”-style drawdown, by popular demand—as well as the potential for a book club or community.
(00:00) Introduction to the new Rich Girl Roundup format
(03:59) General feedback we've heard recently
(12:55) Feedback on the "You Don't Need a Budget" episode
(28:27) Amending your Wealth Planner to "Die with Zero"
(34:45) Two moving emails from a listener, several years apart
(41:19) Feedback on the "What's Next for Money with Katie" episode and downsizing
(47:29) The possibility of a Money with Katie book club or community
(50:37) Feedback on the GLP-1 weight loss drugs series
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/dangerous-advice.
Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs.
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“You Just Have to Keep Buying”: How Diet Culture Profits from Fatphobia Jan 22, 2025

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Welcome back to Part Two of our series, the Economics of Weight Loss Drugs. (If you haven’t heard Part One, listen here!)
Today, we’re picking back up where we left off in our conversation with Lili Zarghami, a writer who got on (then off) a weight loss drug. Then we’ll talk with Dr. Mara Gordon, a weight-neutral physician who deals with GLP-1s. Finally, I’ll share my final thoughts and analysis on where the world of GLP-1 agonists is all headed and what it says about health, wealth, stigma, and class.
Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/diet-culture.
Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs.
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