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    The Money Sessions

    Deep, thoughtful, raw conversations with real therapists who are in the midst of leaning into raising fees and making bank – all while working with the clients they are passionate about serving.

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    Do Queer Therapists Have A RIGHT To Charge Premium Fees; A Conversation With Lee And Courtney Jun 07, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, we're speaking with Lee Dal Pra, a Chicago based Social Worker and Courtney Wells, a Chicago based Psychologist. Both Lee and Courtney are working in private practice and wrestling with how to Lean In to charging premium fees and building generational wealth, while simultaneously contending with the messages that in order for Queer people and BIPOC people to deserve wealth, they have to work ten times harder AND focus on giving back to the community, ultimately sacrificing their own well being.

    Why is it that we demand Queer people and BIPOC people do their own work to build wealth and make up for social injustice while also solving problems of mental health in society? Whooftah. We'll take it up in this episode.

    In this episode, we will cover:

    Why Lee and Courtney decide to transition into private practice from high positions in the hospitalized mental healthcare setting;

    How they have received pushback from peers on establishing private practice fees and coming off insurance panels;

    How they served to challenge and encourage one another to grow as clinicians and business owners;

    A candid conversation discussing the pressure on Queer and BIPOC therapits to self sacrifice in order to fix a broken system.

    Resources mentioned:

    Fun with Fees

    Lean In. Make Bank.

    4 Steps to Raise Your Fee Workshop

    More about Lee:

    Lee Dal Pra, AM, LCSW is a licensed clinical social worker specializing in evidence-based therapy for young folx with anxiety, depression, and other mood disorders. Lee is the co-owner and Clinical Director of Mind Chicago, a relatable, science-based group practice for youth, young adults, and families. Lee is also a certified yoga instructor and crockpot aficionado.

    To contact: 312-667-3775, Lee@mindchicago.com, www.mindchicago.com

    More about Courtney:

    Courtney Wells, PhD is a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma. They are the owner of Pivot Psychological Services in Chicago providing evidence-based individual and group services for adults. Additionally, Dr. Wells works with other healing professionals through mindfulness and self-compassion to ensure their well-being and longevity in the field. Lastly, Dr. Wells is a lover of mystery novels and a tamer of two Pekingese.

    To contact: 312-868-0163, courtney@pivotpsychchicago.org, https://pivotpsychchicago.org/


    How Dana Paid Off $120,00 Dollars In Student Loans. May 24, 2021
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    In this episode, we're speaking with Dana Belletiere, a licensed therapist out of New Hampshire. Dana has a background in Psychology, Sociology, Human Development and Social work., She also holds two Master degrees in Education in Development and Social Work.

    After years of education Dana found herself in a heap of debt feeling trapped and hopeless. Dana decided to put herself in the driver's seat of her money and career, ultimately creating her ideal work environment and tackling $120,000 dollars of student debt!

    In this episode, Dana will dive into:

    What led her to join a Public Service Loan Forgiveness program (PSLF);

    The difficulties she experienced working at a residential treatment center while in a loan forgiveness program;

    How she was able to step-up and face reality to tackle her student loans, and what changes she had to make;

    The three strategies helped her pay off her student loans and what happened as a result.

    Resources mentioned:

    Fun with Fees

    Lean In. Make Bank.

    4 Steps to Raise Your Fee Workshop

    More About Dana

    I'm Dana Belletiere - an online therapist with a focus on helping clients live authentic, empowered, intentional lives.

    I work with individuals that tend to put their own wants and needs at the bottom of the list. They want to improve how they feel, but have trouble taking the time and energy for themselves. They are looking to ask more from their relationship and careers, but don't know how to go about doing so.

    Through a unique process of self-reflection, self-acceptance, and self-empowerment, I help clients understand and take care of the different parts of themselves, building confidence along the way. I work with clients in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts. I provide online therapy, which allows for distance treatment and flexible scheduling. To contact: https://danalicsw.com/ , 855-298-5237


    What happened when Alisa raised her fees and surpassed her husband's income to become the family breadwinner. May 10, 2021
    Show notes

    In this week's episode, we talk to Alisa Taylor, MFT who works with mothers around identifying, setting and HOLD their boundaries. She also served as a Money Mentor in The Lean In. MAKE BANK. Academy. And deeyamn, in this episode, you'll learn why.

    Alisa is going to BLOW YOUR MIND. In this episode, she is going to peel back the layers of so many questions and conflicts therapists have when thinking about charging premium fees and setting clearer boundaries in their practices - around time, around finances, around cancellation policies. You definitely do not want to miss this episode.

    In this episode, Alisa will share:

    What it took to go from charging as low as $85/session to charging upwards of $225/session;

    3 fears she had about raising fees and charging premium fees;

    How and why she replaced her 48 hour cancellation policy a "Consistency Policy" and how that impacted her clients' commitment to therapy;

    How she navigated the conflict between the desire to earn more and the question, "But shouldn't I be happy with what I have?"

    How getting deep with her money mindset through The Lean In. MAKE BANK. Academy allowed her to set clear boundaries in her marriage so she could raise fees, homeschool and start her next business, even in a time of Covid.

    Resources mentioned:

    The Lean In. Make Bank. Academy

    FEE WEEK: Follow us on Instagram to learn more @TiffanyLMcLain

    More about Alisa:

    Alisa has a small, high-fee virtual private practice in Southern California. As a recovering codependent, perfectionist and people pleaser herself, Alisa works with women on these issues using depth work and Brainspotting. Alisa's current focus is having a highly fulfilling personal life with a private practice on the side. http://www.alisataylorcounseling.com

    Connect with Alisa: alisa@alisataylorcounseling.com


    Bonus: FEE WEEK is coming! May 06, 2021
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    Hello, HELLO!

    Tiffany here popping in on a random Wednesday to announce that FEE WEEK #2 is almost heeere. 🎉

    I know, be stilly thine heart. You can register for fee week here ==> http://www.heytiffany.com/feeweek

    When does it start: Monday, May 17th What you will get:

    • 5 Days of Access to our Exclusive FB Community where you will be surrounded by therapists who are ready to play bigger and earn more, without apology.
    • Short digestible workshops each day that will walk you through the steps to create your Roadmap to a 6-figure Year.
    • One quick action you can take each day to help you take the next step on Your 6-figure Roadmap (I know your time is precious, so this one action will be short, sweet and POWERFUL).
    • Daily FB Lives with Private Practice Fee Strategist Tiffany McLain, where you can ask questions, get to know your fellow baller therapists and get clear about your next step to 6-figures.
    • PRIZES! Daily prizes when you complete each action AND a $500 for one lucky therapist who completes all 5 daily action steps.

    Why a Covid-19 induced Pulmonary Embolism Lead Drew To Raise Her Fees May 03, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, we are speaking with Drew Rabidoux, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker based out of New York. Drew joins forces with women in developing boundaries to foster kick-a** relationships.

    Drew will talk about how, after 20 years in Social Work, she was inspired to start her Private Practice only to be faced with a life-threatening situation which ultimately led her to raise her fees.

    In this episode, Drew will share:

    How 20 years in Social Work impacted her emotional well-being which inspired to start her Private Practice.

    How a life-threatening medical experience led her to raise her fees.

    Why she invested in both The Lean In. MAKE BANK. Academy and The Inner Circle at the same time.

    How she wrestled with her internal conflict of helping the community vs. taking care of her family.

    Resources mentioned:

    Lean In. Make Bank.

    Fun with Fees

    The Inner CIrcle

    More About Drew:

    Drew is an LCSW in NYC who is now building a completely virtual practice. She is a community service junkie (alum of AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps), boyband fanatic, and a COVID19 survivor. Having COVID19 left a chronic illness and has opened her eyes to the need to take care of herself and make her practice work to support it. Reach out at: drewrabidoux@gmail.com


    Bonus: FEE WEEK is Coming! Apr 28, 2021
    Show notes

    FEE WEEK: Roadmap to your 6-Figure year is opening for enrollment next week. 🎉 FEE WEEK is a free 5-day pop up extravaganza for therapists and social workers who are ready to earn more in private practice while working less.

    What you will get:

    • 5 Days of Access to our Exclusive FB Community where you will be surrounded by therapists who are ready to play bigger and earn more, without apology.
    • Short digestible workshops each day that will walk you through the steps to create your Roadmap to a 6-figure year.
    • One 5 minute action you can take each day to help you take the next step on Your 6-figure Roadmap (I know your time is precious, so this one action will be short, sweet and POWERFUL).
    • Daily FB Lives with Private Practice Fee Strategist Tiffany McLain, where you can ask questions, get to know your fellow baller therapists and get clear about your next step to 6-figures.
    • PRIZES! Daily prizes when you complete each action AND a $500 for one lucky therapist who completes all 5 daily action steps.

    Stay tuned! Next week, we'll tell you how you can enroll. Make sure you're following us on Instagram @TiffanyLMcLain to get the latest information.


    Marissa: From CMH to $350/session in 12 months DURING A PANDEMIC Apr 26, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode, we're speaking with Marissa Esquibel, a private practice therapist in southern california and a Lean In. MAKE BANK. Academy graduate and past Money Mindset Mentor.

    In this episode, we get to hear how Marissa went from feeling like a victim, helpless to external circumstances, to really leaning in and taking responsibility for saving herself.

    This shift in her mindset allowed her to charge $350/session and fill her practice in under 12 months.

    In this episode, Marissa will share:

    3 signs that let her know it was time to leave CMH and group practice;

    The fears she experienced about being first in her family to step out of a the employee mindset and start her own business;

    How she went from working in CMH to confidently charging $350/session;

    How facing herself and her entitlement helped Marissa step up an do transformational clinical work;

    How her identity as a Latinx woman informs how she negotiates colleague jugement about taking up space in the world as a premium fee therapist;

    Why creating her own business led to the biggest opportunity for self growth;

    3 mindset shifts to going from burnout and broke to stepping up and taking responsibility for your finances in private practice.

    Resources mentioned:

    The Lean In. Make Bank. Academy

    Therapy Reimagined Conference

    4 Steps to Raise Your Fee Workshop

    Therapy Practice Accelerator

    More about Marissa:

    Marissa Esquibel, LMFT, is a psychotherapist, podcaster, and past Money Mentor in The Lean In. MAKE BANK Academy. She's on a one-woman mission to empower young women to stop playing small and start taking up space and she's accomplishing that one session, podcast, or Tiktok post at a time! She attended LIMB in February 2020 and, thanks to the crushing the course, hasn't stopped gaining momentum since.

    marissa@therapywithmarissa.com


    How Paige bucked the norm and became a cash-pay-only Testing Psychologist in an industry dominated by insurance. Apr 19, 2021
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    In this episode, we're speaking with Dr. Paige Hover, a testing psychologist and practicing therapist in Chicago who specializes in working with anxious perfectionists to help them understand what underlying issues may be contributing to their struggles.

    Paige, a Lean In. MAKE BANK. Grad is going to get VERY real about the struggles she had trusting that she could actually build a cash-pay practice as in the world of testing psychology - a field dominated by insurance based practices. Her journey wasn't easy and there were a lot of times she felt like giving up. Fortunately she persisted and she has reaped the clinical and financial rewards of playing the long game.

    In this episode, Paige will share:

    Why she decided not to take insurance as a testing psychologist;

    How she overcame the negative messages she received around going private pay as a testing psychologist;

    The challenges that come with being a testing psychologist who does NOT take insurance in a field where so may testing psychologists DO take insurance;

    How she navigated the limbo of coming from a working class family and ultimately becoming a doctoral level testing psychologist and how feeling like she doesn't belong to either world are part and parcel of being upwardly mobile;

    Specific steps you can take as a testing psychologist to charge premium fees without being on insurance.

    Resources mentioned:

    FEE WEEK

    Lean In. Make Bank.

    More about Paige:

    Dr. Paige Hover is a clinical psychologist who works with anxious perfectionists to manage anxiety, burnout and budding addiction concerns. She provides therapy and psychological/neuropsychological testing. She is licensed and practices in Illinois, New York and soon PSYPACT states!

    Get in Touch: drhover@bigpicturepsych.com


    How Djuna went from charging as little as $0 per session to charging $200/session in a town with a median income of 25k/annually. Apr 12, 2021
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    In this episode, we're speaking with Djuna Osborne, a therapist based in Roanoke, VA. She went from charging as low as $0/session to charging $200/session in a town where the median household income is 25k.

    In this episode, we will hear how growing up with conflicting money narratives - both attending a private school, but also having to beg other students for money so she could eat - impacted her money behavior when she went into her own private practice.

    In this episode, Djuna will share:

    • How facing her money mindset issues helped Djuna become a better clinician;
    • What it was like for Djuna to look for a premium fee therapist in her area and why she made the choice to pay more for her own therapy;
    • How increasing her fees allowed her to be more present with her family and children;
    • Three things she was afraid of when raising fees;
    • Three actionable things you can do right now to charge premium fees and improve your clinical skills.

    Resources mentioned:

    Fun with Fees

    4 Steps to Raise Your Fee Workshop

    More about Djuna:

    Djuna Osborne, MSW, LCSW is a psychotherapist in private practice based in Roanoke, VA. She works with compassionate professionals - medical residents, attending physicians, entrepreneurs and other therapists - to help them cultivate their hearts and their minds so they can have greater confidence, prevent and work through burnout, and feel happy and fulfilled both in their professions and with themselves. As the spouse of a physician, Djuna lived through her husband's medical school and residency while simultaneously working in a hospital and obtaining her clinical training. She is keenly aware of the unique pressures of medicine and the way that our core values of "doing what is right" can be in conflict with organizational norms. Djuna has a deep passion for bringing more compassion into the world one person at a time.

    When she is not working with clients, she loves building community with other professionals, friends, and fellow citizens. She also loves spending time with her husband, two daughters and their beloved dog, Donut, road tripping anywhere an RV will go.

    She can be reached at djuna@djunaosbornecounseling.com, djunaosbornecounseling.com or by calling 540-269-1551. She welcomes all inquiries!


    How Derrick, a Queer, Black therapist stepped into charging $350/session. Apr 05, 2021
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    In this episode, we're speaking with Derrick Hoard, LMFT, is a therapist based in Seattle Washington. This episode will blow your mind.

    In this episode, we'll hear about Derrick's journey going leaving a group practice setting and creating their own premium fee practice where they charge up to $350/session and having a paid online community space that provides peer support and connection.

    Derrick will talk about how he moved from a model where the group practice did his marketing to taking responsibility for his own marketing efforts - which resulted in viral Tik Tok stardom.

    In this episode, Derrick will share:

    3 signs that led him to realize he needed to leave group practice and go out on his own;

    How resentment led them to recognize they needed to raise their fees - which resulted in BETTER clinical outcomes;

    His message to people who demand that he should be "giving back" as a Queer, Black therapist, even at the expense of his own wellbeing;

    Why being yourself, fully embracing who you are, is the keep to your premium fee private practice;

    3 strategies you can implement right now to start charging premium fees in your own practice

    Resources mentioned:

    Lean In. Make Bank.

    Fun with Fees Calculator

    4 Steps to Raise Your Fee Workshop

    More about Derrick:

    Derrick Hoard, LMFT is a licensed marriage and family therapist and advocate for survivors of and people still intertwined in abusive situations. They are neurodiverse and loves videogames. Derrick hopes to to work themselves out of a job by providing content that validates people experiences and lets them know that there is nothing wrong with, they are doing the best they can, and when the learn to love themselves they will do so much better.

    Learn more: https://thesituationaltherapist.com/


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