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    The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR

    Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they’re pioneering the way that we work. They share what’s working, what’s not, and how they’ve gotten to where they’re at in their careers.

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    191 - Exos & Adam Grant's Team Explore the Four-Day Workweek: Greg Hill (Chief People Officer, Exos) Jul 23, 2024
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    Greg Hill, Chief People Officer at Exos, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We discussed Exos' Readiness Culture Code, how they measured the success of their four-day workweek experiment, and the difference between productivity and effectiveness.

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    This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work®. Learn more at http://greatplacetowork.com/mpl.

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    (7:32) From Upstate New York to Chief People Officer at Exos

    (11:44) The Readiness Culture Code Explained

    (16:13) Flexibility and Recovery: The Four-Day Work Week

    (24:45) Discussing CEO Meetings and Competitive Talent Challenges

    (25:01) Tech Industry Challenges Post-COVID

    (25:41) Discussion with Nick Bloom on the Four-Day Work Week

    (27:24) Sales Performance and Net Promoter Scores (NPS) During the Pilot

    (29:13) Positive Outcomes of the Pilot

    (32:05) Tailoring Hybrid Work Solutions to Different Organizations

    (34:03) Tie-Ins with Return-to-Office or Hybrid Programs

    (36:19) Advice for Smaller Companies and Designing Structured Experiments

    (43:17) Future Study on Quiet Quitting

    (45:00) Measuring Performance and Productivity

    (47:24) Talent Management in a Changing World

    (51:36) Regional Directors and Cultural Norms

    (52:26) Accountability at the Peer Level

    (53:15) High-Performance Culture and Its Articulation

    (56:00) Output Expectations Across Teams

    (57:04) Generative AI: Enhancing vs. Replacing Human Input

    (1:01:02) Call to Action for HR Leaders

    (1:03:07) Personal Engagement in Workplace Transformation

    (1:05:01) Magic Wand Fix for HR Problems

    (1:06:33) Guest Recommendation: Todd McCarty

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    190 - Melanie Naranjo (VP, People, Ethena) & Vanesa Cotlar (VP, People & Culture, PolicyMe) on Performance Management Jul 16, 2024
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    Vanesa Cotlar (VP, People & Culture, PolicyMe) and Melanie Naranjo (VP, People, Ethena) joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We discussed the three questions every manager should be asking themselves about their direct reports, why setting expectations with new hires can go a long way in improving performance, and how to create a common language for employees around performance.

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    This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work®. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl.

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    (1:29) Good news stories

    (8:43) What’s new with Vanesa and Melanie

    (12:55) Why performance management is a hot topic right now

    (19:43) The 3 questions Ethena managers ask themselves about direct reports

    (21:40) Expectation setting with new hires during the first 90 days

    (31:47) Handling performance conversations

    (36:18) Create a common language for employees around performance

    (39:30) The percentage of managers effectively managing performance

    (45:39) What happens when your current team isn’t the right team to get you to the next level

    (51:18) Great Place To Work’s research on RTO mandates

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    189 - Tinkering versus true transformation: Larry McAlister, (Head of Digital Transformation, Nutanix) Jul 09, 2024
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    Larry McAlister, Head of Digital Transformation at Nutanix, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We discussed what transformation looks like, the importance of defining it for your organization, and the difference between mere tinkering and true transformation.

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    This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work®. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl.

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    (1:22) Good news stories

    (4:03) Great Place To Work’s research on RTO mandates

    (5:41) Going from CHRO roles to the Head of Digital Transformation

    (9:02) What he does as a Head of Digital Transformation

    (10:20) What Nutanix does

    (10:59) Why we should be jealous he gets to work at Nutanix

    (13:45) What is transformation?

    (16:04) You need an enablement strategy for new HR tech

    (18:00) Get very specific about what transformation means to your company

    (20:00) Tinkering versus transformation

    (23:07) Tell people the truth about the change that’s coming

    (27:20) Generative AI & Microsoft Co-Pilot

    (38:55) The only reason there's still humans in Talent Acquisition

    (42:50) Why he wrote The Power to Transform

    (45:13) You are a technologist

    (46:56) Rapid fire questions

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    188 - “Future of HR + Modern People Leader” with JP Elliott, Stephen Huerta, & Daniel Huerta Jul 02, 2024
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    What happens when you combine two of the best HR podcasts? You are about to find out as the Modern People Leader podcast and the Future of HR podcast have come together for a special episode to share their insights from over 270 interviews. ---- This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work®. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl. ---- We interviewed JP on The Modern People Leader: (1:08) Good news stories (3:25) Curious whether you’re a Great Place to Work? (4:53) JP’s story (9:03) JP’s biggest surprise since starting a podcast (11:30) Elevating the next generation of HR (13:50) What a next generation HR leader looks like (16:13) The limiting beliefs holding HR leaders back (18:02) The guests JP has learned the most from ---- JP interviewed us on The Future of HR: (22:00) What inspired us to start The Modern People Leader (29:55) What it means to be a Modern People Leader (35:58) What it’s like to be a Chief People Officer at a startup versus a Fortune 500 company (41:24) What we would put in an HR time capsule to be opened in 2050. (43:50) Team performance reviews ---- Connecting with Future of HR: Connect with JP Elliott on LinkedIn. Visit the Future of HR website. ---- 📬 Subscribe to our weekly newsletter to get key learnings & career advice from Modern People Leaders 💡 Follow The Modern People Leader on LinkedIn 😊 Follow Daniel Huerta on LinkedIn 😊 Follow Stephen Huerta on LinkedIn


    187 - WFH data & the 4-day workweek: Nick Bloom (Stanford Economist & Co-Founder of wfhresearch.com) Jun 25, 2024
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    Nick Bloom, Stanford Economist & Co-Founder of wfhresearch.com, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about the state of WFH, managing in a hybrid environment, the four versions of the 4-day workweek, and what’s coming next for Nick.

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    This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work®. Download their latest research on ⁠Return-to-Office Mandates here⁠.

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    (1:13) Good news stories

    (3:47) Great Place To Work’s research on RTO mandates

    (5:05) Nick’s story

    (7:24) HR is now the center of action

    (10:15) Work from home data points

    (16:48) The benefits of being in office

    (21:04) Is it career limiting to be fully remote when the rest of your team is hybrid?

    (24:24) Managing in a hybrid environment

    (29:03) The four versions of the 4-day workweek

    (31:24) How far away are we from the magic version of the 4-day workweek?

    (39:30) Nick’s predictions for the next 10-15 years

    (44:40) The weird and wonderful things Nick is researching next

    (48:16) Rapid fire questions

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    186 - Hebba Youssef (Founder & creator of I Hate it Here & Chief People Officer at Workweek) Jun 18, 2024
    Show notes

    Hebba Youssef, Founder & Creator of I Hate it Here & Chief People Officer at Workweek, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about the work they're doing to elevate their managers to the next level, why the CEO and Chief People Officer dynamic is challenging, and whether there has been scope creep for the CPO role.

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    This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work®. Download their latest research on Return-to-Office Mandates here.

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    2:36 Good news stories

    10:26 Your thirties

    14:04 Hebba’s story

    21:49 Balancing Dual Roles: CPO and Content Creator

    25:42 What Hebba dislikes most about being a creator

    27:30 Maturing as a company is painful

    31:09 Getting managers to the next level

    33:14 Friday manager trainings at Workweek

    39:20 Changing the mindset of leaders to want to change

    45:45 Why the CEO and Chief People Officer dynamic is difficult

    48:53 Your CEO needs a professional coach and a therapist

    54:24 Is the scope of the CPO role getting too big?

    57:56 The piece of HR that Hebba would give away

    59:11 Rapid fire questions

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    185 - DIBs 2.0—The Key Ingredients: Erin Thomas (VP, Head of Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Upwork) Jun 14, 2024
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    Erin Thomas, VP, Head of Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging at Upwork, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about how her team is leveraging data in their DEI work, why you need high utility DEI programs, and she shared a couple examples from the last year at Upwork.

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    This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl.

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    1:11 Good news stories

    05:22 Erin’s Journey to becoming the VP of DIB at Upwork

    07:32 Where DEI efforts can go wrong

    14:11 The polarization of DEI

    16:50 Key ingredients of DEIB work in 2024

    19:09 The Importance of Data in DEI

    25:10 The GlowUp community at Upwork

    30:00 DIBs programs VS the DEI work that has to be deeply integrated into the business

    35:04 Using AI to improve feedback quality for people of color

    41:13 Exploring Generative AI in DEI

    46:12 Making DEI work fun

    51:31 Rapid Fire Questions

    55:03 Future of Work and DEI

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    184 - From Job Titles to Skills—A Vision for Future HR Leaders: Don Robertson (EVP & CHRO, Northwestern Mutual) Jun 11, 2024
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    Don Robertson, EVP & CHRO at Northwestern Mutual, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about prioritizing company values over star performers, why the future of work is more about skills and less about job titles, and the real reason change takes so long in the workplace.

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    This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl.

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    (0:55) Good news stories

    (5:05) Don’s story: Shifting from finance to HR

    (9:07) Turning HR discussions with your CEO into business outcome discussions

    (12:07) How working in sales has helped him as a people leader

    (14:04) Northwestern Mutual

    (19:40) Managers need to become career coaches and guides

    (22:33) You can’t town hall your way to change

    (23:46) Incentivizing managers to develop the next generation of talent

    (27:55) Holding managers accountable

    (34:03) How Northwestern Mutual thinks about moving people around to different teams throughout the company

    (39:20) CHROs will need to help design a system that’s less about your title and more about what you know

    (43:20) Change is needed but there's no incentive for those involved in the system to change

    (46:20) Rapid fire questions

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    183 - Soft skills are POWER skills: Erica Spitale Jun 07, 2024
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    Erica Spitale joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about the current HR job market, why soft skills should be called power skills instead, and the work-life smoothie.

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    This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl.

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    (2:41) Good news stories

    (7:28) Erica’s journey and what’s next for her

    (11:20) The current job market for HR leaders

    (14:33) How she’s approaching her job search

    (18:48) Erica’s obsession with leadership

    (22:54) What it means to be a manager versus a leader

    (24:30) The hardest things in leadership are the things that make us human

    (27:12) To be a leader requires you to think of yourself less and others more

    (30:21) Building an inclusive leadership series

    (33:15) What great leadership looks like

    (36:12) Soft skills should be rebranded to “power skills”

    (39:00) We need to find metrics to measure “power skills”

    (41:00) Erica’s superpower skill

    (43:30) Making leadership a choice, not a requirement

    (45:37) The work-life smoothie

    (48:21) Rapid fire questions

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    182 - Lessons from Chief's CPO on building communities & companies: Trey Boynton (Chief Diversity & People Officer, Chief) Jun 03, 2024
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    Trey Boynton, Chief Diversity & People Officer at Chief, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

    We talked about why running a community is similar to HR work, where communities and companies tend to stumble, and the metric we wish existed for managers.

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    This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl.

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    (2:35) Good news stories

    (10:50) Trey’s journey from academia to CPO

    (17:45) What Chief does

    (21:46) The myth around the divestment of DEI

    (24:50) Why running a community is a lot like HR

    (29:57) Intentionality is everything with community building

    (34:19) Things are constantly changing in the world and in HR—you have to evolve with your people

    (37:59) Onboarding community members versus employees

    (45:50) The leadership crisis

    (51:25) The best leaders know they don’t know

    (56:30) Rapid fire questions

    (1:02:27) One word or phrase close

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