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The MiddleGround Mic

The MiddleGround Mic is a centrist politics and news commentary podcast for independent voters, moderates, and anyone tired of partisan talking points. Hosted by Joseph Steagall, the show covers elections, foreign policy, Michigan and Detroit local politics, media accountability, and the economy — grounded in verifiable receipts instead of tribal loyalty. No Left. No Right. Forward.

Ranked Top 30 in Politics (June 2026) with more than 1.3 million downloads, the show brings bipartisan analysis and long-form interviews with journalists, policymakers, foreign policy experts, candidates, and everyday people — not scripted talking heads. Recent conversations have covered Iran’s nuclear program and the Strait of Hormuz, the Wayne County SMART bus millage, media trust and investigative journalism, election law and ballot access, and the collapse of institutional trust in America.

Being centrist isn’t fence-sitting. It’s refusing to hand either party a free pass, and having the spine to say what the loudest voices on both ends won’t. If you’re an independent, a moderate, or just exhausted by the screaming, this is politics without the team jersey.

Watch full video episodes on YouTube and Spotify. Support the show at https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tmgm. Subscribe, follow, and leave a rating — it’s the biggest way new listeners find the show. No sacred cows protected. No side gets a free pass.

Latest Episodes:

We Are Failing Our Children (And How to Fix It) | Dr. Robert Saul Oct 12, 2026

Show notes

Are we raising our children to succeed, or are we simply hoping they survive?

In this episode of The MiddleGround Mic, host Joseph Steagall sits down with Dr. Robert "Bob" Saul, a pediatrician, author, and children's advocate with more than four decades of experience, for an important conversation about conscious parenting, raising responsible citizens, and rebuilding stronger communities.

Drawing on his remarkable medical career and his book My Children's Children: Raising Young Citizens in the Age of Columbine, Dr. Saul explores why parenting goes far beyond providing food, shelter, and education. It's about teaching empathy, accountability, compassion, and the responsibility we all share for the next generation.

At the heart of our discussion is Dr. Saul's powerful 12-word mantra:

"I am the problem. I am the solution. I am the resource."

What would happen if more parents, educators, and community leaders embraced that philosophy?

We discuss the lessons Dr. Saul has learned from decades of working with families, the challenges facing today's parents, the importance of conscious parenting, and why building healthier communities starts with each of us.

Whether you're a parent, grandparent, teacher, or someone concerned about the future of our children, this conversation offers a different way to think about the responsibility we share.

CONNECT WITH DR. ROBERT SAUL

Official Website:
https://mychildrenschildren.com/

My Children's Children — Book:
https://mychildrenschildren.com/book/my-childrens-children/

Explore Dr. Saul's Other Books and Resources:
https://mychildrenschildren.com/

EPISODE CHAPTERS

00:00 – Cold Open: The 12-Word Mantra

01:15 – Welcome Dr. Bob Saul

04:30 – Lessons From Decades in Pediatrics

12:45 – What Is Conscious Parenting?

22:10 – My Children's Children: The Inspiration

31:20 – Why Community Building Matters for Kids

42:00 – Challenges Facing Modern Parents

51:30 – Final Thoughts and the Path Forward

FOLLOW THE MIDDLEGROUND MIC

Official Website:
https://themiddlegroundmic.com/

Subscribe for more conversations that challenge assumptions, explore difficult issues, and bring people together.

No Left. No Right. Forward.

How Politics is Destroying the Nuclear Family & The Hidden Healthcare Agenda (ft. Sidney Pines) Oct 09, 2026

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What happens when partisan politics become more important than your own family? Right now, parents and children are literally stopping speaking to one another over differences of opinion—but it doesn't have to be this way.

Author Sidney Pines returns to The MiddleGround Mic to break down the intentional division of the American public, the shifting tides of social media, and how everyday Americans can start healing the political rift in their homes. Later in the episode, we go down a massive rabbit hole into the modern healthcare system. We discuss the origins of Big Pharma, the loss of natural holistic treatments, and why taking control of your own health has never been more critical.

If you’ve ever felt like we are all being played to stay divided, this is the episode for you.

📚 GET SIDNEY PINES' BOOKS:

Awakening: A Patriot's Diary of American Deception

https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Patriots-Diary-American-Deception/dp/1966625529

Golden Age Rising: Book Two of A Patriot's Diary

https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Age-Rising-Patriots-Diary/dp/B0H8CTB52M

CHAPTERS / SHOW NOTES:

00:00 - Intro: Why Are Families Ripping Apart Over Politics?

01:58 - The True Cost of Political Division

02:49 - Kid Rock, Eminem, and Finding Common Ground

05:43 - Why Sidney’s Books Are Resonating with Everyday Americans

09:42 - Are People Changing Their Minds on Social Media?

11:58 - Is the Division Being Intentionally Fed?

15:17 - The Collapse of the Nuclear Family & Old School Values

18:59 - Big Pharma, the Healthcare System & Lost Natural Cures

25:49 - Questioning Chemotherapy and Modern Medicine

30:55 - Who Do We Hold Accountable?

35:39 - What’s Next for Sidney Pines’ Book Series?

43:26 - Where to Find Sidney’s Books

Anthony Forlini: Election Security, Voter Rolls & Trust in Michigan Government Sep 23, 2026

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What actually happens behind the scenes of Michigan’s election system?

Macomb County Clerk/Register of Deeds and Michigan Secretary of State candidate Anthony Forlini joins Joseph Steagall for a wide-ranging conversation about election administration, voter-roll maintenance, security procedures and public trust.

Forlini explains why he has raised concerns about noncitizen registrations and what changes he believes should be made to Michigan’s voter-registration system.

The conversation also covers:

• Election equipment, verification and security procedures
• Voter-roll maintenance and eligibility checks
• E-poll books and election administration
• College-campus voting
• Customer service and wait times
• Notary fraud
• The Office of the Great Seal
• Forlini’s priorities for the Secretary of State office

Rather than campaign slogans, this episode focuses on the actual systems, procedures and disagreements surrounding how Michigan elections and Secretary of State services operate.

The MiddleGround Mic features long-form conversations that give guests enough time to explain their positions — and listeners enough information to make up their own minds.

Learn more about Anthony Forlini and his campaign:
forliniforus.com

CHAPTERS

00:00 Anthony Forlini on Michigan Election Security
02:15 Noncitizen Voting & Michigan Voter Rolls
07:40 How Michigan Voting Machines Are Secured
12:30 Cutting Wait Times & Improving Service
18:10 College Campus Voting & Election Procedures
23:45 Notary Fraud & Michigan’s Great Seal
29:00 Why Forlini Is Running for Secretary of State

Xi's Washington Visit, Iran's Pickaxe Mountain & the Risk of $7 Gas Ron bee Sep 21, 2026

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What do China, Greenland, Iran, artificial intelligence and the price of gasoline have to do with each other?

Potentially quite a lot.

Ron Bee returns to The MiddleGround Mic to connect several of the biggest geopolitical stories happening right now — and explain how international decisions can eventually reach American consumers and businesses.

Joseph and Ron discuss:

• The new U.S.-Denmark-Greenland security agreement
• Greenland, the Arctic and strategic competition
• Rare earth minerals and China’s leverage in global supply chains
• Xi Jinping’s upcoming visit to Washington
• U.S.-China tariffs and trade negotiations
• Artificial intelligence as a geopolitical battleground
• Iran and the mysterious Pickaxe Mountain facility near Natanz
• Satellite intelligence and nuclear uncertainty
• Oil markets and global energy disruption
• Whether another major shock could push gasoline toward $6–$7 per gallon

Instead of treating each headline as an isolated story, Ron connects the pieces and explains how geopolitical decisions thousands of miles away can eventually affect prices, businesses and households at home.

00:00 How China, Iran & Energy Prices Connect
02:10 Greenland, the Arctic & Rare Earth Minerals
08:30 Xi Jinping’s Washington Visit & U.S.-China Trade
15:45 Iran, Pickaxe Mountain & Nuclear Concerns
22:30 The Global AI Trade War
28:15 Could Global Conflict Push Gas to $7?

Can an Independent Beat the Machine? with Mike Thurow Sep 16, 2026

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Can an Independent candidate realistically win a seat in Congress? Former firefighter Mike Thurow joins host Joseph Steagall on The MiddleGround Mic to share why he bypassed party politics to run in Wisconsin's 6th District. Thurow breaks down the corrupting power of corporate money, the challenges of third-party ballot access, and how direct public service shapes his approach to representation.

Connect with the campaign:

Official Site: https://www.thurowforcongress.com/

Text & Updates: https://mtwi6.com/

Chapters:

0:00 - Can an Independent Win?

2:15 - From Firefighter to Congressional Candidate

6:40 - Breaking Free from the Two-Party Machine

12:10 - How Corporate Money Ruined Politics

18:35 - The Strategy to Win WI-06

25:10 - Restoring Faith in Public Service

Can a High School Principal Flip a Trump +10 Seat? | Pia Dandiya Sep 14, 2026

Show notes

Former high school principal, Apple alum, and White House Fellow Pia Dandiya is running to flip Florida’s 22nd Congressional District—a seat Donald Trump won by 10 points—on a central motto: "Make Common Sense Great Again."
In this episode of The MiddleGround Mic, Pia breaks down why voters across party lines are hungry for outcome-based education, practical housing expansion, healthcare accountability, and an immediate ban on congressional stock trading.
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
• Outcome-Based Education: Shifting focus from funding inputs to measuring 4th-grade literacy and 8th-grade math results.
• Housing & Cost of Living: Expanding supply through office building conversions rather than artificial price caps.
• Healthcare & AI Denials: Curbing middleman PBM markups and stopping automated insurance claim rejections.
• D.C. Integrity: Banning individual stock trading for members of Congress.
CONNECT & LEARN MORE:
Campaign Website: https://piaforcongress.com
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Managing High Schoolers vs. Managing D.C.
0:29 - Flipping a +10 Trump District in Florida
02:40 - Gerrymandering and Political "Seed Chopping"
04:21 - How to Turn 86% Poverty into 100% College Acceptance
07:42 - Fixing Public Schools: Measuring Outcomes Over Inputs
12:59 - Rent Caps vs. Housing Supply: Real Economic Solutions
17:53 - "Make Common Sense Great Again": Bipartisan Appeal
20:56 - Fixing Healthcare: PBM Abuse & AI Claim Denials
34:43 - Why Congress Must Ban Individual Stock Trading

Commanding Drones With Natural Language: Ex-Amazon AI Lead Krishna Kumaar Sharma on Omokai & Autonomous Warfare Sep 09, 2026

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What happens when you shift AI out of text chats and into physical machines operating on the battlefield? Ex-Head of AI at Amazon Germany Krishna Kumaar Sharma joins Joe Steagall to explain how his startup, Omokai, is engineering a speech-driven intelligence layer for autonomous drones and robotics.
From sovereign AI development in Europe and the stark realities of AI-driven warfare between Russia and Ukraine to the core principles in his UC Berkeley research paper and upcoming book "Agentic Coding the Boring Way," Krishna shares an engineer's perspective on building reliable, zero-hallucination guardrails for autonomous hardware.
Venture & Platform:
https://omokai.com
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction & Building the Future of Human-Machine Interaction
01:12 - What Sovereign AI Means for Global Defense
02:24 - Leaving Amazon: Corporate Constraints vs. Startup Innovation
07:10 - Why Physical AI Requires More Than Large Language Models
10:10 - Eliminating Hallucinations With Multi-Algorithmic Guardrails
14:15 - The Reality of Autonomous Drones in Modern Warfare
17:35 - Ethics, Governance, and Legal Responsibility in AI Operations
21:28 - The Essential Guardrails for Autonomous Targeting
22:40 - Agentic Coding the Boring Way: Sustainable Software Architecture
26:37 - The Ultimate Goal: Safe Human-Robot Collaboration

Sidney Pines: The True Cost of Political Division & 'A Patriot's Diary' Sep 07, 2026

Show notes

Is America fundamentally broken, or are we being manipulated into division? Sidney Pines, author of Awakening and Golden Age Rising (A Patriot’s Diary series), joins Joe Steagall to discuss the personal toll of American political tribalism.

From family estrangement to media distrust and healthcare investigations, Sidney shares the events that shifted her worldview and led her to document the current cultural landscape for future generations.

If you’re seeking to understand the growing divide and how we move past the "conspiracy theorist" labels to find common ground, this conversation delivers.

BUY SIDNEY’S BOOKS:

Awakening: A Patriot’s Diary of American Deception
https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Patriots-Diary-American-Deception/dp/1966625529

Golden Age Rising: Book Two of A Patriot’s Diary
https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Age-Rising-Patriots-Diary/dp/B0H8CTB52M

CHAPTERS:

00:00 My Cousin’s Son Disowned Her Over Politics
01:20 Why I Wrote A Patriot's Diary
03:03 What the Mainstream News Was Hiding
05:27 The Catalyst for Awakening
08:26 The Real Cost of Political Tribalism
10:19 When the Culture War Enters Your Home
12:30 The Pronoun Debate & Cultural Shifts
16:34 An Unfiltered Record for Future Generations
20:39 How Healthcare Failed Our Children
26:20 The "Conspiracy Theorist" Label
31:28 Media Distrust: Reporters or Actors?
32:39 Reaching the Bestseller List

Why Making More Money Costs You Money (The Welfare Trap) with Clarence Carter Aug 31, 2026

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We spend over $1.5 trillion every year fighting poverty in the United States, so why does taking a raise or getting a better job leave a struggling family worse off?

In this episode of The MiddleGround Mic, host Joe sits down with Clarence H. Carter, author of Our Net Has Holes in It and a 35-year public service veteran who has served under two presidents, four governors, and a mayor. Clarence breaks down the systemic reality of the "benefit cliff" and why having 114 separate government assistance programs traps people in dependency.

In this episode, we unpack:

The Welfare Trap: How earning a small wage increase can instantly strip away vital family benefits.
Systemic Failure: Why fragmenting the safety net creates administrative chaos instead of human growth.
Work Requirements: Overcoming real-world barriers like childcare and transportation.
Relational Capital: Why local nonprofits and communities succeed where federal bureaucracies fail.
The Generational Divide: Addressing the reality that younger Americans feel the economic system is entirely stacked against them.

Connect with Clarence H. Carter:

📖 Our Net Has Holes in It
https://evolveglobalpublishing.com/show-book/B0G2HRSZ3S

🔗 LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/clarence-carter-aaa0096

Episode Chapters:

00:00 — Why a Raise Can Leave Families Worse Off
01:20 — Understanding the Safety Net
03:36 — The Benefit Cliff
06:58 — The Debate Over Work Requirements
08:23 — Barbara’s Story and Real-World Barriers
15:48 — Why 114 Assistance Programs Aren’t Working
21:39 — Government Bureaucracy vs. Community Support
24:06 — Why the Welfare System Has Barely Changed
27:39 — Washington vs. Local Communities
29:32 — The Economic Reality Facing Younger Americans

Inside the Paid Protest Industry: Adam Swart on Manufactured Outrage & Astroturfing Aug 26, 2026

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Adam Swart runs Crowds on Demand, the largest protest-for-hire firm in America. He doesn't call himself an activist—he calls it what it actually is: paid public relations and political machinery.

In this episode, Swart pulls back the curtain on how modern American political campaigns and grassroots movements are manufactured behind closed doors.

Key Topics Covered:

How political movements rely on hidden funding, astroturfing, and paid crowd mobilization
How closed-door institutional endorsements determine elections long before voters step into the booth
Why traditional political polling has lost reliability in modern elections
The economic reality of blind party loyalty in both red and blue districts
Why viewing politicians as transactional employees gives voters real leverage

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