The Messy Studio with Rebecca Crowell

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Episode 200: Our Milestone 200th Episode: Behind the Scenes Dec 12, 2021

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We have reached a milestone here at the Messy Studio that we are excited to report. We recently surpassed half a million total downloads of our episodes, which we first published in late December 2017. This week also marks our 200th episode, and we are also coming up on our 4th year anniversary as well. We’re proud of our podcast and grateful to our many listeners, and to celebrate we decided to talk today about the podcast itself—how it got started, how it has grown, and the challenges and rewards of this project.

We began with the simple idea of an art-related podcast that would be a conversation between the two of us and would also branch out into the other areas included in our tagline: "travel, entrepreneurship, philosophy, and life in general." We wanted to put our focus on art but allow for other topics that would come up as we talked, or sometimes to allow those to take the main spotlight. We've covered many topics having to do with art business, content about finding your way as an artist, bringing meaning to your work and general attitudes for healthy living. While we've interviewed fascinating guests in various fields our main intention has always been to express our own thoughts about these topics.

Here are some facts and figures about our listener demographics: On a consistent basis, about a quarter to a third of our 2500 regular listeners tune in from countries other than the US. These come mostly from the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and Ireland but there are almost 40 thousand listeners grouped as an unspecified “other “category. Our most downloaded episode to date has over 8000 downloads. This is Episode #13, Diving into Abstraction. The topic of abstraction has always generated noticeable interest; we have discussed it in many episodes and featured it in about ten. Another very popular topic has been any topic relating to art business. Other very popular episodes have covered elements that help make strong works of art and engage an artist in growing and learning.

The Messy Studio is an exciting collaboration that we love doing together. It gives us the opportunity for in-depth conversation every week with each other and to our listeners. We’ve both learned a lot in the process and have benefitted from talking about many topics in a deep way. Knowing that so many of you are listening, connecting, and hopefully taking some ideas away with you and into your studio and life in general is very rewarding.

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Rebecca and her partner Jerry McLaughlin are excited to be launching year two of Cold Wax Academy's membership program, which began in October of 2020. In the coming year, live online learning sessions will feature an entirely new set of topics---beginning with a deep dive into technique and the steps involved in developing a painting. Other topics for year 2 include professional development, abstraction and realism, principles of design, and expanded uses for cold wax medium.

As always, members have access to recordings of all previous sessions including everything from the first year, so it's easy to join anytime. Fall Quarter begins October 6th. Please visit http://www.coldwaxacademy.com for details about membership levels and to sign up for a year of exciting learning experiences.

Here is what a member named Sandy has to say about her own experience:
"Rebecca and Jerry have presented the most professional, authentic and structured approach to a creative activity I have ever come across. Their selfless sharing of all their knowledge and encouragement is a gift in my life unsurpassed."

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Episode 199: Staying Adventurous Dec 04, 2021

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As children, we all explored constantly—the world was new and we needed to try things out, push boundaries, and make discoveries in order to grow. Most of the time we were totally absorbed in these activities and found them enjoyable. Artists in their beginning phases often show a similar attitude—they are willing and eager to explore, play, and experiment in an open-ended way with few expectations. But once artistic maturity sets in we tend to settle into more predictable practices and may lose the urge to explore. There are important benefits to finding your groove and sticking with it, but how can we keep an inventive and adventurous spirit alive at the same time?

Achieving artistic maturity is a goal for many of us, reaching a point when we have something to say and the ability to say it well. It means having an authentic voice and consistent work. Yet staying open to change and engaging in experimentation and adventures into new media and subject matter are important to keeping our work fresh and exciting, and avoiding rigidity. These explorations are entirely legitimate ways to spend time and resources.

Trying new things takes acceptance that you may not always produce anything worth saving. It also takes self-confidence that others will appreciate and follow your adventures, and that your voice will continue to come through even with change. There can be a wide range of expression that comes from your core self. Countering the tendency to stick to the tried and true may take the form of attending an artist residency or workshop, travel, or simply setting time or place aside in your own studio for this practice.

So, let’s avoid being stodgy and unadventurous in reaching artistic maturity. Attitudes of play, experimentation, and non-attachment remain important to your work even as you mature. While focus and intentions are essential to doing deep work, adventure and childlike enjoyment are also aspects of mature work.

Episode 198: How To Make Mistakes On Purpose - Interview With Laurie Rosenwald Nov 27, 2021

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Many of us live lives based on habit and predictability--we aim for expected results, and generally avoid uncertainty and disruption. But our guest today, Laurie Rosenwald, challenges us to steer away from the tried and true in order to bring freshness and spontaneity to our lives and work. Laurie is a New York City-based illustrator, artist, designer, and book creator whose work is a mix of collage, drawing, painting, and storytelling. In addition to her many editorial illustrations for a wide variety of publications, Laurie has created animation, product design, and leads an ongoing workshop, "How to Make Mistakes on Purpose."

Laurie talks about her unconventional life and what led her into her current work with encouraging people to open up to random occurences and unplanned situations. She believes in surprise and in taking people out of their expected outcomes and fear of being judged.

Join us for a fun interview, which will be available as video also on our facebook page.

Check out her stuff at:
https://rosenworld.com
https://www.instagram.com/rosenworld/?hl=en
https://societyillustrators.org/event/make-mistakes/?fbclid=IwAR0yVygsI866CpDnfbDam9gA5sRaCXRqEVqLCke7Y6hdsrbwGSaAgNH2Zuo

Buy her book:
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Attend her workshop (I misread this link in the episode):
https://societyillustrators.org/event/make-mistakes

Black Friday/ Weekend Offers:

Also, there is a Black Friday special offer available at Cold Wax Academy, now through Sunday. You can get a free Starter Kit with the purchase of a Full Membership, or half off the price of a Starter Kit for becoming a Core member. That Starter Kit is normally $399, so this is an incredible value and a great way to begin your membership with all the supplies you need on hand.
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Special Guest: Laurie Rosenwald.

Episode 197: How Praise Can Paralyze Nov 20, 2021

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When we think of the kinds of reactions to our work from other people that cause a block in creative flow, most people think first of negativity, indifference, or misunderstanding. All of these can undermine our self-confidence and cause us to feel incompetent, uninteresting, or simply off track. They can lead to anxiety and avoidance behavior towards our work. But what about the opposite—positive remarks of praise and admiration? These can create a blockage of a different kind that may be harder to recognize and acknowledge. Today we talk about the rather odd fact that praise can stall us as much as criticism.

Praise can certainly feel supportive and energizing, helping you see aspects of your work that were hidden from your own eyes and clarifying your ideas when you successfully communicate with another person through your work. And of course, praise brings about general good feelings relating to recognition and a sense of accomplishment.

But receiving praise can also be a complicated dynamic, with the potential to stall us in our progress in ways that may be hard to recognize and acknowledge. The basic issue is that art is subjective; although there are standards of good composition and design, and good use of media and visual elements, opinion also plays a big role when someone offers you feedback. When what you hear is positive, it can be harder to recognize its subjectivity. You may be steered towards aspects of your work that aren’t quite right for your own vision, but which the person viewing your work prefers.

This often happens in a classroom or workshop situation, meaning that those who teach need to be careful not to shut down students by only praising work of a certain type. But the detrimental effects of praise can also be a dynamic among friends and family. Many people find a role for themselves in advising and influencing others even when they know little about the subject. Their positive comments may be well meaning but be somewhat manipulative or controlling, in effect asking the artist to create according to their own preferences. You as the artist need to be strong enough in your own mind to recognize whether praise is truly applicable to your own intentions, and resist being steered in a direction that is not.

Learning to evaluate the feedback you receive allows you to gain from positive feedback that relates to your own intentions and to remove yourself from comments that are off track. Failing to do this can lead to losing your way or being blocked by inner resistance to fulfilling someone else’s desires for your work. Being self-reflective and in touch with your own ideas and intentions is key to understanding positive feedback and pulling from it what is useful and supportive to you.

Episode 196: Open Studio Events: Pros and Cons Nov 15, 2021

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At some point in their art careers, many artists are offered the opportunity to take part in an open studios event or art tour in their communities. These events can be lucrative and exciting --and provide many new contacts to help spread the word about your work. They also entail a lot of preparation and time taken away from normal studio life ---and several intensive days of meeting the public and handling all the details of selling work directly during the event. Today we take an inside look at this experience and consider the pros and cons of participating in an open studio or art tour in your own community.

Although many times these events are very positive experiences, there are legitimate reasons you may hesitate. You may view your studio as a private sanctuary and not open to the public for any reason. Or you may not be comfortable selling your own work, or you may simply not anticipate an appreciative audience of your type of work in your area, and dread having to explain what you do. The physical accessibility of your studio and the preparation and time commitment involved during opening hours are also considerations. You may also want to be sure that there are other artists on the tour who you regard as peers, who have a similar approach in terms of pricing and professionalism.

On the other hand, in evaluating whether to join a studio tour or open studios event, there are some positive signs that may persuade you to say yes. It is very helpful if there is a density of artists in your area, and if the event is locally well known and well established. As for your own work, it is good to have work at various price points so that people who are not prepared to buy larger work can find a piece that works for them. It is also good if you can line up some help for the event, maybe someone to participate in the set up or direct traffic, or just be on call if you need something during the event.

Your attitude during the event is important. While it's fine to have expectations to keep you motivated, realize that you will have many people who are simply checking out your work or enjoying seeing your studio and are not there to purchase. That is fine, and you never know what might unfold later as the result of people having had a good experience. It's important to greet everyone, answer questions, and show a friendly attitude.

A studio tour can be a very successful event, provide connections, and help in your involvement with the art community where you live. On the other hand, it’s not a good idea to join just because you feel it is expected by other people—there is too much of your time and energy at stake. Deciding whether to participate means considering the pros and cons for your situation, but once you decide to join, a wholehearted attitude will bring the best rewards.

Episode 195: Our Many Hats Nov 06, 2021

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The behind-the-scenes aspect of almost any job is surprising, and that of a working, professional artist is no exception. So much goes on that has little if anything to do with making art. Maintaining a studio, tracking inventory and expenses, photographing work, keeping up a website, engaging with social media, answering email, staying in touch with galleries, and handling countless other details of art practice—all of these tasks are time-consuming, and each requires its own skillset. Most artists do all of this on their own without assistance, learning as they go, and over time they find what works for them. Today we look at the frustrations and rewards for artists as they constantly change out their many hats.

Considering the range of tasks we deal with as artists, it's natural that most of us are deficient in some areas, whether those are record-keeping, organizing, being active on social media, creating a website, consistent gallery correspondence or other tasks. While it may appear that other artists are on top of every aspect of their practice, few conquer all tasks and at the same time make good art without having help.

To be realistic we need to let go of perfectionistic tendencies and accept a standard of "good enough" for some of the demands on our time. We can also delegate tasks to others if they can be outsourced, although many cannot. Sometimes we do have to face things that need to be done by ourselves, but with which we have no experience or background. In those times, a positive attitude about learning new things is helpful. You may surprise yourself with newfound abilities --for example being able to handle new technologies or teach your first workshop. Asking for advice from a friend with experience is a good first step when faced with a new situation that requires action.

As artists our main role is to make art, and that is the most important hat to wear, always. The rest of the demands on our time that support our art practice need to be dealt with as best we can. When feeling overwhelmed by tasks and things to do, a good way to shift out of stress is to go and do your art, even for a little while. It will remind you of what you love about the life of an artist. The rest of it is simply what needs to be done to support this opportunity.

Episode 194: Our First Year: Reflections on Cold Wax Academy Oct 31, 2021

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A year ago, Rebecca and her teaching partner and co-author, Jerry McLaughlin embarked on a new project to meet the needs of artists during the time of Covid. With in-person workshops canceled, they turned to online teaching as a way to continue to offer instruction to artists interested in using cold wax medium and oils. Faced with this challenge of offering deep learning in a new format, Rebecca and Jerry developed a structured curriculum of online sessions for a worldwide audience of artists. Cold Wax Academy has evolved to be the leading online resource for mastery of both technical and artistic skills required for painting with cold wax medium.

Online teaching offers its own rewards and challenges, and Jerry and Rebecca reflect on its many aspects in this episode. Content for online sessions is prepared ahead of time with very specific focus, allowing for an in-depth exploration of various topics. Learning takes place in concise pieces of information, with time in between to process. When combined with actual workshop experience the impact of both foms of learning is especially noticeable.

With so many artists involved in online teaching and learning as a result of the pandemic, the advantages of online learning are becoming increasingly evident and to be involved in this new format is exciting. Cold Wax Academy membership provides deep, structured learning from two experienced, professional artists in the context of a supportive online community. If this sounds right for you, please visit www.coldwaxacademy.com.

Special Guest: Jerry McLaughlin.

Episode 193: What Realism Teaches Us Oct 23, 2021

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It can seem sometimes like artists and art lovers fall into two camps—those that adamantly prefer abstraction, and those who feel the same way about realism. Of course, this is a very simplistic view of art --and the fact is that these two approaches meet and mingle in countless unique ways. But it can be demoralizing for an abstract artist to be dismissed out of hand as lacking seriousness and skill, and the same for the realist who may be criticized for lacking imagination or unique vision. In fact, all artists who have gained mastery at what they do have something to teach others.

Thinking of abstraction and realism as a simple duality is misleading; it is more useful to think of various ways of depiction as a continuum, with extremely realistic work at once end and completely nonrepresentational, pure abstraction at the other end. The line in between filled with various departures from either extreme, and any kind of art is an interpretation, and there are always limitations to the medium an artist uses.

While each way of working has its strengths, too often abstract artists don't consider or exploit the depth and nuances that can be observed in the real world and that realist artists are by necessity very aware of. These can bring more intricacy and complexity to abstract approaches. Realist painters learn skills such as creating visual texture through subtle shifts of value and color, and to edit their work carefully to create good composition that are applicable to abstract work as well.

On the other hand, realism may also include approaches that do not interest abstract artists such as depiction of deep space and perspective, and there are interests that are unique to abstraction such as a focus on materiality and visual elements for their own sakes. So, while there are distinct differences, it's worth paying attention to how these various approaches overlap. All forms of art have more in common than they do differences, and it can be very beneficial to understand other approaches to the visual world.

Episode 192: Your Life & Your Abstract Voice Oct 16, 2021

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How do abstract artists focus on specific ideas in their work? How can personal voice be discovered and followed given the endless possibilities of abstraction? Today we will talk about one path that has proven to be a rich vein of ideas for many abstract artists—that of pulling from their own experiences in life to create a meaningful, personal visual language. Today we’ll talk about ways to access ideas for abstraction from what you know best, your own life.

Many artists, especially beginners with abstraction, tend to be a bit disconnected from personal expression in their work. Maybe it's because they believe that abstraction is always about lofty concepts bigger than any individual, or maybe they consider abstraction to be mainly an intellectual /conceptual exercise, or that it is mainly about process and technique.
All these approaches are satisfying to many abstract artists., but others want a more personal or emotional connection to their work.

if you haven't considered your own experiences, situations, and emotions as pathways to this connection, it may be because you worry that this is too self-involved or somehow self-centered. But there is wisdom in the idea that the more personal a subject is the more universal its potential. Your interpretation of your own experiences can strike a chord with others and thus be more widely meaningful. Work based on your own life and experiences is perfectly valid and is a long tradition in art.

Discovering personal sources for your work is challenging. It requires self-awareness and observation of what moves you and what abstract elements you connect with your experiences. Specific memories of moments and emotions connected with them are most potent, and journaling and sketching can deepen your awareness of these and help you focus.

There is no formula for working abstractly from your own experience, it is by nature individualized and personal. But to realize that your own life is legit subject matter and worthy of your attention is liberating. So go ahead, express your own experiences, be quirky, be open, be a little mysterious, mine your own memories, and feelings.

Episode 191: The Messy Stages Oct 09, 2021

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We named our podcast The Messy Studio for a reason that goes beyond the physical working space. We also mean to imply that the creative process itself is rarely neat or clearly defined. It is more often confusing and convoluted. This aspect of creativity can be frustrating, but it’s necessary each time we find a new path in our work. Today we talk about the importance of the messy stages of creativity and how clarity can be achieved as we move forward.

One of our listeners, Max McConkey, recently commented that the stages of a painting can be compared to stages of life, and that some parts of the life cycle are a bit wild and chaotic leading up to a mature painting. Using this analogy, its clear to see that each stage of growth is important and necessary for resolving each work of art. The messier stages can be frustrating though and tempt you to reach for the easiest solution possible. But in doing that you may miss some new ideas and solutions that could be gained by working with the mess you have rather than giving up on it.

On the other hand, it can be a trap to spend endless time making small tweaks and changes that aren't making any real difference. The real mess in the piece may be a larger issue, like the color palette or composition, or wanting your medium to do something that it isn't made for, and to see bigger issues you probably need to walk away for a break and return with fresh eyes.

There are times when a fresh start is the best move but take a little time to identify what has gone wrong. The creative process is rarely straightforward and linear, even though we somehow seem to expect it to be. Maybe it is human nature to think it should be easier than it is. But inside, most of know that our work would never grow and change if we never had to power through messes, chaos, frustration.

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