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    The Messy Studio with Rebecca Crowell

    Artist Rebecca Crowell shares experiences and thoughts from three decades of painting, teaching and traveling, as well as her conversations with other artists. She is joined by her co-host, producer, and son, Ross Ticknor, who brings an entrepreneurial Millennial perspective. The conversations are broad and eclectic, focused on ideas, information and anecdotes that other artists may find helpful in their work and careers. A new episode is uploaded every weekend!

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    Episode 100: The Art Of The Side Hustle Nov 30, 2019
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    For many artists, some form of outside employment is necessary to make a living. Their day jobs often have little or nothing to do with their creative lives, but some have developed income streams that evolved naturally from their studio practice. This approach leads to a more integrated approach to earning a living. Today we’re focusing on some examples of art related side hustles.

    In preparation for this topic, Rebecca searched for statistics on artists who make a living from art sales alone. What she found--to no one's surprise--supports the fact that many of us need other income streams. While the Bureau of Labor Statistics provides fairly decent income figures for artists, they include paid artist positions like designers and teachers in their overall statistics, and don’t provide separate information for those who are studio artists only. The Artfinder Independent Art Market Report: 2017 produced figures that are closer to the reality that many studio artists face. They report that artistic practice accounts for less than 25% of their survey sample's total income from all sources.

    Many studio artists have found ways to cobble together a good living from art sales plus one or more art-related side hustles, which they prefer to traditional part time or full-time employment. Although outside employment offers a steady paycheck, the benefits of self-employment include greater control over your time and level of commitment to your artwork. And when self-employment involves providing meaningful goods and services to other artists, there can be deep satisfaction in what you do.

    As an artist, what skills do you possess that could be translated into extra income? Today we look at several categories of side hustles that arise from knowledge and services that artists may be able to offer. We also have interesting stories and insight from two artists who have developed successful art-related products, Paula Roland and Elizabeth Schowachert.

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    Also mentioned:
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    https://elizabethschowachertart.com
    www.fiver.com


    Episode 99: Branching Out Nov 24, 2019
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    While most artists have a way of working that is their main focus, many of us also explore other media or approaches on occasion. While in general it is good to have something that you stick with to develop ideas and master techniques, side trips can be intriguing, and even helpful in feeding new ideas back into your main art practice.

    In episode 79 of The Messy Studio Podcast we talked about the benefits of going deeply into a chosen way of working, rather than engaging in a lot of different approaches. We acknowledged that this isn’t right for everyone, especially for more conceptually driven artists whose work is united through ideas rather than media. But just about anyone can benefit from the occasional foray into different ways of working.

    Branching out isn’t about abandoning your primary focus, but enjoying the pleasure and excitement of trying new things. This can be an expression of the same ideas that you gravitate toward in your main work, or something completely different. It is a good way to explore concepts and techniques that have appealed to you in the past, but you have never pursued.

    Artists tend to be open and curious individuals, and it is natural to have multiple facets and approaches to an art practice. Listen to that small inner voice that occasionally says “would it be interesting to try another medium, if only as a playful, experimental interlude?”

    Although a sideline may eventually develop into a true skill, your attitude is often different from the beginning. You are free from any need to prove yourself so there can be pure joy in pursuing these other paths. And along the way, you are learning skills that can impact the way you work most often. In this episode we take a look at specific examples of what branching out can bring to your art practice as a whole.

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    Episode 98: Our Studios, Our Sanctuaries Nov 16, 2019
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    Our Studios, Our Sanctuaries

    There are few things artists are more passionate or opinionated about than their personal workspaces. In the past we’ve touched on many aspects of individual studio environments including the kind of sounds that artists prefer as they work (Episode #95 of The Messy Studio Podcast). Today we’re going to further explore what makes art studios unique and special to those who work in them, as well as offer some practical considerations for those in the position of upgrading their spaces.

    In spite of the importance of studios, they can be created almost anywhere and with minimal space and equipment. Studios range from tiny and poorly equipped to enormous and fully functioning. Many artists carve out a work area in a basement, a spare bedroom, a garage, or shed. Others have large, well-lit, purpose-built studios with plenty of wall space and storage, perhaps even more than they actually use or need. Art can be made anywhere, and many of us have experience in a variety of studios to prove it.

    While it’s always important to make the most of whatever we have available, most of us do dream of a perfect studio and take any steps we can--even small ones-- to improve our current situations. If you’re fortunate enough to be in the position of remodeling, designing or relocating to a new studio, where do you start? Location, amount of space, how to pay for the space, and what you need for equipment, utilities, and storage are all important aspects of your planning.

    But there are emotional as well as practical considerations in thinking about studios. An interesting exercise-- whether you are keeping your current workspace or planning a new one-- is to create a detailed mental image of your perfect studio. How big is it, where is it located, how is it outfitted, what supplies are on hand? This fantasy studio can help you recognize what’s important to you in a practical sense, even if the reality is a more modest version. But it can also help you to enter a create mindset if used as a meditation before starting to work, or if you hit a slump. Any studio is as much an inner space as physical one, a sanctuary where we are most ourselves. Your fantasy studio can provide some powerful personal symbols that connect you with this truth...

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    Episode 97: Cindy Stapper: Between Realism and Abstraction Nov 09, 2019
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    New Mexico painter Cindy Stapper discusses her work in which she explores the dichotomy of presence and absence through both realistic and more abstracted approaches to the landscape. Other topics that she and rebecca talk about include the challenges of change, the pull of the wild Irish landscape, her appreciation of cold wax medium and oil, and the influence of poetry and writing on her work.

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    Special Guest: Cindy Stapper.


    Episode 96: Dealing With Rejection Nov 02, 2019
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    Dealing With Rejection

    We’ve all suffered through rejections both major and minor. Like the cycle of ebbs and flows that we talked about in episode 94 of The Messy Studio Podcast, rejection in various forms is a part of an art career that we have to deal with on a regular basis. How can we stay positive and motivated when we are being told we didn’t make the cut? What does rejection really mean in the big picture of our lives as artists?

    The common wisdom in the entrepreneurial world is that if you haven’t suffered a lot of rejections, then you haven’t been trying hard enough or aiming high enough. The question is, what do rejections really mean in the big picture? They hurt at the time, but they are actually positive signs that you are aiming for something higher and further than where you are now. Rejection means you aren’t just playing it safe, but pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. Facing rejection is a sign of ambition, and your intention to grow your career and audience.

    Rejection can also be seen as part of a process. Finding the right path for yourself isn’t easy. You have to try a lot of different things to find out what works. Rejection is an indicator that your current path may not be the right one. This may help you to expand your thinking. You may be focused on acceptance to a particular gallery, a grant, or some other opportunity. Being rejected may lead you to consider other ways to achieve the same goal. The old cliche of “when one door closes, another one opens” can be true, but probably involves a conscious shifting of focus toward a new idea or solution...

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    Episode 95: What’s On In Your Studio Oct 27, 2019
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    What’s On In Your Studio

    Most artists have strong feelings about their work environments. What works, what doesn’t, what rituals or other aspects of their studio days are important? The overall environment of a studio can be expanded upon in a number of ways, but our focus today is on what is heard, or not heard, during work sessions.

    Artists, as well as other other working professionals, create auditory environments within their work spaces. What enhances their work flow in terms of music, talk, or silence? Some people never consider this question when designing their own studio, and placing careful consideration on how best to optimise a work environment using sound can have a big impact on the quality of work an artist is able to produce.

    Rebecca: I am very eclectic in my audio choices. I may play music or a radio program. At times I want something on, but it doesn’t really matter what. I usually prefer silence. I suffer from hearing loss, and the bubble of muffled silence I live in actually helps my concentration. I don’t have a good sound system in either of my studios, so my options are old CDs and whatever radio stations I can receive. If I have a craving for specific music it is usually classical. I think about putting on music the same way others might think “a snack would be nice”.

    For me, music isn’t a particularly important part of my workflow, so I was somewhat surprised to find out just how passionate many artists are about their audio environment...


    Episode 94: Ebbs and Flows Oct 18, 2019
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    The ebbs and flows of income (and other positive events) are challenges for any self-employed person. But we have to learn to deal with slack times if we want to persist. Once you become discouraged it can be easy to lose your motivation and even think about giving up. Today we’ll cover some strategies and thoughts that can help if you’re in the midst of a downturn, and also ways to take the best advantage of the good times.

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    Episode 93: Considering Commissions Oct 12, 2019
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    I often like to look up terms that get tossed around, and Oxford’s first definition is “an instruction, command, or duty given to a person or group of people.” While the commandment aspect of this is often looser with an art commission, maybe it is the sense of being ordered about that some artists find difficult.

    Some artists never work on commission—dislike the disruption of their creative path, being watched and judged for the end result, value their artistic freedom above sale

    But for many, commissions are very welcome—like gold--let’s look at the upside of receiving one:
    Guaranteed purchase
    May hang in public place
    Unique challenges—the “assignment” aspect may push you into new ideas
    Validating of your work/adds to your resume

    How do they work:
    Arrangements vary considerably:
    Through a gallery or designer—they will ask your terms or may have their own; may ask you to be flexible if they are eager for the sale
    Private commissions—artist sets the terms
    May need to share with gallery if it is in same local as one of your galleries through which the client knows your work

    When you set your terms—you can suit yourself. Opinions and formulas abound and in the end it is what you feel good about. Consider:
    Do you want to charge extra and how much—can be as much as 50% more or your basic prices—what is it worth to you? How eager are you for it to go through?
    Consider any extra expense—custom panel, special paint
    Consider shipping/delivery/installation issues up front; who pays?
    How much to share in-progress photos—can be inhibiting depending on your process
    How much freedom do you require?
    What will you do if the client is not pleased?
    Be realistic about your schedule and how much time to give yourself
    If it’s a private commission, are you comfortable negotiating with an unknown client? Can be hard if you’re not used to it

    Artists who work often on commission have set ways of doing it that they know work for them. Ex: portrait painters of all types work almost exclusively on commission.

    Ginny Herzog: I always get a 50% deposit before beginning the work. The balance is due before it is shipped.

    Yes, I send in progress photos and the piece is not finished until the customer is happy with the painting.

    Only once did a customer want to return a commission and that was because their interior designer wanted something different for the space. The customer said they liked the piece and it was exactly as they had requested. I told them the designer should have been in on the conversation from the beginning if that was the case. They ended up returning it and paying shipping costs. I didn’t send them a refund until I resold the painting.

    Others who only do them once in a while can be confused each time the idea comes along. May have a loose approach, negotiable.

    Allison B Cooke. Has done only a few--asks for ½ down and uses her base price with perhaps slight increase. Mentioned the strategy (others use as well) of creating two paintings and allowing client to choose. Downside of this is that client may not feel their piece is special and unique.

    My own approach: Use my basic prices (based on sliding scale PSI) and add in extra if I need to buy custom panel. Charge the client for delivery. Ask for nonrefundable 10% down to cover supplies. Allow for right of refusal and would not charge the balance. I prefer not to send in progress photos unless I have a question about color or something.

    The emotional side of all this:
    Feeling of someone looking over your shoulder –someone specific as opposed to vague someone
    The need to please
    Often it means referring to an older work or work on a completely different scale
    Pressure/stress –what if it isn’t going well
    Fear of failure, judgement
    Can be hard to work without a middle-person/gallery

    My own private commission story/nightmare—when I thought I was doing everything to please and they didn’t like the color when they saw it. Then a decision about whether to re-work or just walk away. How badly I felt about the whole thing, jumping through hoops, in the end did not feel good about it.

    And the good story—current commission; appreciative client, gave me freedom, enjoyed the challenge, felt like I was creating a personal work for someone I like

    Also the commissions for MD Anderson—I learned a lot, felt good about them in a public place, some stress because of their scope and cost but rewarding financially

    Wrap-up: A lot of artists have definite opinions pro and con about commissions, while others accept them with some caution. Good to go in with eyes open, recognize their benefits and difficulties.


    Episode 92: Formal Mentorships Oct 05, 2019
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    Many of us are fortunate enough to have had mentors in our lives who were also friends or relations, who have helped us or we have helped along the way. These are relationships to protect and be grateful for as we discussed last week.

    But there are ways to have a mentoring relationship with people we don’t know, at least at first—a formal kind of arrangement in which the mentor is compensated and there is more structure to the arrangement.

    Do you need a formal, paid mentor?
    Individual needs vary but here are some examples
    you identify a need not being met by current situation/have tried it on your own.
    You feel stuck or stagnated
    Need support and feedback,
    working in an isolated situation
    Want someone to hold you to your goals
    You’re willing to commit to the schedule, structure, the follow-through
    You can be pro-active, not passive in what you want from the arrangement, give your mentor something to go on
    You’re willing to accept constructive criticism, follow assignments/suggestions, commit to at least trying things

    Also understand:
    You should respect whatever boundaries are agreed upon, no special treatment
    Mentors are not therapists/life coaches—keep focus on your work or relevant life issues

    Mentors are most effective once you already have some skills, are fairly developed already to help you to the next level of excellence. At a more mature level you know the kind of mentor that suits you best.
    

    How do you find a mentor?
    Word of mouth
    Google (of course!)
    Website—Mentorly—matches mentees and mentors, different price categories, the site vets the mentors and prices according to their experience, recommendations etc. Online only.
    Workshop instructor
    Someone you admire—make inquiry
    A local mentor may be good for various reasons, can be less formal, more accessible, able to meet in person

    What to have I mind?
    Goals and intentions—specific or broad—what do you want to focus on (the mentor can help with this too)
    What you can afford or what it is worth to you
    or could you barter help of some kind
    How often you would like to meet or talk

    What if it’s not working?
    Give it the agreed upon amount of time/number of sessions to decide; a specific end point may be helpful; helps with focus, puts people at ease too to know there's an end point
    Voice specific complaints or issues/aim for open communication without simply complaining or whining/
    challenges are part of the deal

    Would YOU like to be a formal mentor?
    Have the right mindset, you have something to offer
    You have broad expertise/knowledge as well as specific to your field
    You have some experience in teaching or being mentored yourself
    You want to work with people to achieve their own goals, your role is supportive not authoritative, not controlling
    Able to keep on topic
    Able to commit to a schedule
    Able to set expectations
    Good communications skills, good listener, direct, positive, friendly
    Organized, able to meet commitments
    Good role model
    You have a base from which to draw mentees—mailing list, website, etc.
    Have testimonials about your teaching and communication skills
    Understand your own limits in terms of time and comittments

    Benefits to you:
    Personal satisfaction
    Income
    Grow your workshop or other connected business, enhanced reputation
    Set your own hours
    Articulating important art ideas helps your own work

    What if it’s not working:
    You’re only obligated to do as much as original agreement but follow through on that
    Honesty, constructive feedback if you need to end relationship

    As mentor, decide—
    How much time to commit
    Structure—can be set times for meetings, by skype or email…or set as needed. Can go on for a specific amount of time, say 6 months with monthly interactions. Can be very informal—call me when you need me.

    What is good compensation
        Starting out, $50/hr or so
        For a lot of skill/experience-- $100/hour or more. You may have them pay ahead for a set number of sessions or pay each time. 
    
    Do you prefer live meetings, skype, email? With email feedback, will you charge by hour or set rate? 
    
    What is your focus as a mentor? Open to any issues, or prefer to focus on art business, studio practice, creative process—general or specialized
    

    WRAP-UP:
    There was a time when being mentored/apprenticeship was the only way to learn from another artist. Now it’s one of many choices, but remains one of the very best for personal feedback and support. For those who want to mentor it’s a fairly easy way to run your own small business. Just be very honest about your qualifications and ability to do the work.
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    Episode 91: Mentor/Friend Relationships Sep 27, 2019
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    Working with a mentor is a long tradition in the art world, in which a less experienced artist looks to one who is more experienced for guidance and training. Is art mentoring still important in the age of instructional videos, books, workshops, and artist groups? What do we gain from having a mentor, or from mentoring other people? Today we will talk about the unique offerings of mentorship, and tips for both mentors and mentees. Our focus today is on the more informal kinds of mentoring as opposed to more formal or paying relationships.

    We’ve talked about lots of other forms of learning in this podcast over time—videos, workshops, etc. but today we’ll focus on this more specialized topic.

    Not something I have done much of in a formal way, my energy has gone into teaching workshops/ book/ video, also forms of mentoring--- though not as ongoing or personal. But I do have some experience with both formal and informal mentoring.

    Wikipedia defines Mentorship as “a relationship in which a more experienced or more knowledgeable person helps to guide a less experienced or less knowledgeable person. The mentor may be older or younger than the person being mentored, but he or she must have a certain area of expertise.”

    This definition includes being mentored without personal contact
    at a distance—you follow someone, pay attention to things they say and do. Maybe never even meet them but they still guide and inform you. This is where all the info available to us online etc. overlaps with older kinds of mentoring. Lots of artists refer to others they have never met as mentors in this sense.

    Informal mentors that just happen in your life, people you meet who help you, informal basis
    instructors (college, workshop) who you have for a time, or more ongoing relationships.
    Professional artists in your personal circle/friends
    who are more advanced or have a special knowledge you’re interested in

    Most of us have had people like that-- very important in our development. Provide support, encouragement, positive ideas, role models. The personal relationship part is important—this is someone who really sees you, knows you, has insight

    Myself—several instructors in college and grad school, as well as an imp. art teacher when I was a young teenager. I knew her personally--helped me see that being an artist was a real possibility for my life. How does one lead an art life. Introduced me to abstraction. Many years later she took one of my workshops—full circle. A powerfull relationship with great impact.

    There’s also some gray area--you consider someone a mentor and approach them for advice even though it's not someone they know -- an artist wants advice from someone without that mentor being either a good friend or someone who is paid. More on this in a bit.

    If you are advising someone as a mentor, know your own limitations. Be clear about what you know and don’t know, and try to understand when to give advice and when to hold back…More on this in a bit

    RE: that gray area in which there are expectations but no discussion about the roles being played —and the person isn’t a friend. For example someone continuing to contact an instructor after a workshop with requests for feedback, sending images of work when not requested etc. This comes across as presumptuous and usually not appreciated.

    In any case friend or not--if you want someone’s help -- clarify the relationship. Make sure the mentor is OK with giving what you ask for; be prepared to pay for their time or offer something back.

    With people in that gray area--You’re not entitled to their help ongoing because you’ve had a workshop, they wrote a book etc. An email asking for detailed information can be intrusive.

    Helping you with your work is a professional service so give it that respect. Ask yourself how much you would expect to be given freely from a friend in any other profession or trade. An auto mechanic friend might be happy to say what they think is wrong with your car, but not to take on its repair…

    There should always be clarity and some reciprocity in any mentoring relationship. Don’t push the limits of what is given in terms of help and guidance.

    Mentoring by a friend: Respect the boundaries of any mentoring relationship including someone you are personally involved with and understand the needs of the person doing the mentoring.

    Be grateful—it’s a rare privilege.
    Give them credit when it’s due. Express gratitude with specifics. If the person is trying to help you they would probably like to know on a personal level how it helps.

    Do give something back. Show interest in their work, take them to dinner, return a favor that you can offer.

    Be objective--Try not to be overly influenced by their approach and style—ideally they are helping you find your own way

    try to see what they offer you in an objective light…
    

    they may be giving you advice that they themselves don’t follow or is not the best for you. Does their advice fit who you are now? There may be a time to split from your mentor

    If you are the mentor in an informal relationship—
    Can be a very rewarding part of a friendship
    You have special insight into the person’s life
    Understand the impact you are having esp. on a young or undeveloped artist

    Recognize the limitations; this Is not about controlling outcome of any sort for your friend

    Not about your own ego/ pumping up your accomplishments and image/truly an act of generosity and friendship

    May be harder to be honest/direct when friendship is involved, same issues we have with any artist friend being honest or critical

    Test the waters, figure out what the relationship will tolerate if you are concerned about damaging the friendship, but be as honest as possible.

    Suggest the friend involve a more objective mentor if necessary

    Recognize the impact you have, be sensitive. Your role is to be supportive, positive and if you can’t be that suggest they look elsewhere. You don’t want to be a negative influence or overstep your bounds..

    Wrap--Up: Mentoring relationships are powerful and hopefully positive. They can be a rewarding informal arrangement on both sides but there should be some acknowledgement of that relationship, not just vague expectations. Next week we’ll go into more formal arrangement when a mentor or art coach is someone you seek out and pay for their services.

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