Show notes
Two women, one shared reckoning: perimenopause and menopause arrived and rewrote everything they thought they knew about their bodies, their sex lives, and themselves.
In this extended conversation, #1 New York Times bestselling author Gabby Bernstein and sexologist Emily Morse (host of Sex with Emily) open up about the messy, unglamorous entry into midlife hormonal change — rage, hot flashes, vanished libido, and in Gabby's case, a fertility journey that included IVF and pregnancy loss. Emily, meanwhile, is living out her own perimenopause in real time, testing on herself everything she's spent over twenty years teaching other people about pleasure.
Both conversations are part of Sex in Menopause, a free masterclass with Naomi Watts featuring sexual health expert Dr. Somi Javaid, psychologist Dr. Cindy Meston, and real women navigating changing bodies, mismatched desire, and identity shifts most of us were never prepared for. Right now there is only one trained menopause provider for every 32,000 women who need care. If sex has disappeared or changed in ways you can't explain, that's not a personal failure. That's a gap in the medical system.
In this episode:
- Menopause as a "spiritual shakedown" — Gabby's reckoning
- Early perimenopause symptoms & finding real support
- Marriage, communication & educating a partner
- Fertility, IVF & pregnancy loss
- HRT, lifestyle shifts & feeling more herself than ever (Gabby)
- Preparing for menopause & a message of hope
- Emily's own perimenopause & why she's not exempt from the confusion
- Medical dismissal & why doctors aren't trained on this
- Communication as "lubrication": talking to partners about sex
- Letting go of duty sex
- Desire, burnout & the nervous system connection
- Toys, lube & modern arousal aids, without shame
- Why midlife can mean the best sex of your life
Topics covered: menopause, perimenopause, women's sexual health, hormone replacement therapy (HRT), fertility, IVF, pregnancy loss, low libido, desire, arousal, sex toys, lube, communication in relationships, medical dismissal, nervous system regulation, self-pleasure, healing, spiritual growth, midlife identity, Gabby Bernstein, Emily Morse.
If this episode landed for you: watch Sex in Menopause, the free documentary with Naomi Watts, at sexinmenopause.com. For more conversations like this — plus live events, retreats, and past seasons — head to Luminescence.health.