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    The Long and The Short Of It

    What do two coaches on opposite sides of the world actually talk about when they think out loud together? For eight years and 400-plus episodes, that has been the whole of The Long and The Short Of It: a weekly conversation for thoughtful leaders, coaches, and creatives who would rather be useful than loud.

    Pete Shepherd is an Australian leadership coach and the former Head Coach of Seth Godin’s altMBA, who has worked with leaders at Google, Toyota, Woolworths, Kraft Heinz and the Australian Navy. Jen Waldman runs her own studio in New York and has coached performers across much of Broadway. Every Tuesday they take one small, real moment, a difficult conversation, a 3am worry, a question from a client, and turn it into a question or a reframe you can use today.

    The show is about leadership, coaching, creativity, fear, feedback, imposter syndrome, habits, and what it actually means to be human at work. Under twenty minutes. No guests. No ads. No script.

    If a friend sent you here, start anywhere. And come find the Box O’ Goodies, our weekly email, at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

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    270. Quests Nov 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Throwing it back to old video games, Pete and Jen ping-pong back and forth about what we might learn from games like Zelda when thinking about leadership and growth.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • How might we think about challenges in life as quests?
    • What are different ways in which we can level up?
    • How might we find excitement in the unknown?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    269. Target Lists Nov 21, 2023
    Show notes

    In this week's episode, Jen teaches Pete about the ways she uses people, places, positions, and purpose to create target lists.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why might it be important to make target lists?
    • What are some tactics for discovering people and places that you might want to add to your target lists?
    • How are the lists for each category different? And how might they overlap?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    268. Action Learning Nov 14, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Jen and Pete thrash about the idea of getting a group of people together and putting one person in the hot seat, and asking them only questions about the places they are stuck.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What exactly is action learning? And what is it's inverse?
    • How might hearing someone else describe a problem actual help you solve your own?
    • What are different ways we can achieve action learning, even without a group?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    267. Sponge Mindset Nov 07, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Jen and Pete ask the question of how we might be more like a sponge in the projects we are working on, in terms of soaking information in and also squeezing it out into the world.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What are some tools we can utilize when we're stuck in the information gathering stage?
    • What is a cut bait date?
    • How might sharing what we're working on with others help in our creative process?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    266. Habit Audits Oct 31, 2023
    Show notes

    Building on ideas from previous episodes, Jen and Pete dive in to how they might take an audit of their current habits, and noodle on what that audit might teach them.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is a habit audit?
    • If you were to start with a clean slate, would you choose to pick up the habits you currently have?
    • What are some exercises that might help us to take stock of our current habits and make a decision on whether or not to keep them?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    265. Rules Oct 24, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Pete (a rule follower) and Jen (a non-rule follower) noodle on how we might leverage rules to help us create new habits, practices, and boundaries.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What are some tactics we can use to create rules for ourselves?
    • What is the difference between a rule and a habit?
    • What are some examples of rules Pete follows? And Jen?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    264. If You Build It... Oct 17, 2023
    Show notes

    Jen has strong feelings about the phrase, "If you build it, they will come," and with Pete, they noodle on possible improvements and rewrites.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why is an invitation necessary when engaging other people in your work?
    • How might we validate our work while in the process of making it?
    • Why might inviting people to witness our projects be a scary thing to do? And how might we overcome that fear?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    263. Our Friend, Feedback Oct 10, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Jen and Pete revisit the very familiar topic of good ol' feedback and all of its many quirks.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • Why might negative feedback impact us more than positive feedback?
    • What does it mean that the work we create will not be for everyone?
    • What are some strategies with which to filter and/or apply the feedback we receive?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    262. Ask For What You Want Oct 03, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Pete and Jen dive in to the reasons to ask for what you want, and what reasons might hinder us from doing so in the first place.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What are some reasons someone might be afraid to ask for what they want?
    • What does it mean to chase the no?
    • How might we empathize with the person we are asking something from?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


    261. Goal Stacking Sep 26, 2023
    Show notes

    It may come as a shock, but Jen and Pete have never done an episode of the podcast about goals before today! So this week, they dive in to the idea of how we might stack our goals, and how that might help us to adjust them or eventually let them go.

    Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

    • What is the concept of goal stacking?
    • What are some ways that goals can be organized in to projects?
    • How might focusing on more than one goal actually help to move them all forward?

    To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

    You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

    To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

    More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies. A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over.

    Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

    Reach us: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com

    Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com


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