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550: Dan Patrick - The Art of Interviewing, Leaving ESPN, Working With Dave Matthews & Adam Sandler, Asking Better Questions, & Taking Care of Your Team Oct 22, 2023

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What makes a great interview?
- They tell stories
- It feels like your eavesdropping on their conversation (he takes you inside)
- He disarms them with humor
- Ask shorter questions…
Take care of your people… Dan has had the Dannettes with him for many years. He listens to his teammates, Makes them part of his show, and truly cares for him. In return, they are there for him every day. It seems obvious, but it's not. Dan is evidence that this approach works…
Dan has been influenced by Howard Stern's interviewing style of always being curious... And he makes his staff part of the show.
"I love being a voice in your head. You're in your car, driving, and I love being that voice in your head."
Interviewing... Manage the tension. "Shorter questions get better answers."
Dan met Adam Sandler at Madison Square Garden and agreed that he would be cast in his next movie... He has since been cast in many more.
Dan shares the story of meeting Dave Matthews, spilling his beer on him, and then later singing karaoke with him.
Dan is the author of The Occasionally Accurate Annals of Football: The NFL's Greatest Players, Plays, Scandals, and Screw-Ups (Plus Stuff We Totally Made Up)
Leaving ESPN – Dan admitted he was hurt when good friend, Sports Illustrated writer Rick Reilly (who would move to ESPN) wrote, "Patrick was making one of the top 5 biggest career mistakes in entertainment history," ranking right under Shelley Long's leaving Cheers and Katie Couric's leaving NBC's Today show for the CBS Evening News.
Life/Career advice:
- Be humble, be hungry, have humility, and be ready to go when your opportunity presents itself. The old adage rings true, "You don't have to get ready if you stay ready." Always be ready for your opportunity.
Retirement Tour – Dan Patrick announces he plans to continue the Dan Patrick Show for the next four-and-a-half years with the intention of retiring at the end of 2027.

549: Dr. Sara Kuburic - Take Ownership, Accept Hard Truths, Discover Your SELF, & Change Your Life (It's On Me) Oct 15, 2023

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Change happens when we feel empowered. It's on us to take responsibility for our lives and help others take responsibility for theirs. As leaders, change is more likely to happen for the people we are serving if we help them feel empowered.
Listening is not a passive activity. Take it seriously. It starts with genuinely caring for the person you're in conversation with.
"Being disliked is a rite of passage." Being disliked is normal. Being uncomfortable about being disliked is also normal. Reminding your Self that how you feel about your Self matters more than how others feel about you is key.
Sense of self – "Sense of self is not something that is found… We create our sense of self…"
"My interest in psychology stems from my personal experience living through wars, navigating complex relationships, and continually learning what it means to be human."
This book is about facing ourselves –whatever version that might be, regardless of whether or not we like the person we see reflected back to us. It's about what's possible once we realize that we are responsible for who we become and how we live our lives (a daunting, but profoundly liberating idea). IT'S ON US to figure out the two most essential questions: "Who am I" and "Why am I here?" and then live accordingly.
"I am thankful for my struggle because, without it, I wouldn't have stumbled across my strength."
Repeat out loud: "I will stop giving second chances to people who don't want it, won't use it, or don't deserve it."
"The deepest form of loneliness comes from being estranged from ourselves, not from others."
"Comparison doesn't just steal our joy, it also screws with our perspective."
"Mistakes don't have to define you. But what you choose to do after a mistake often does."
"Just a gentle reminder: The worst-case scenario that you're playing out in your head is probably not going to happen."
"Don't confuse the snippets you get to see of someone's life (through media or a casual conversation) as their whole story. Give each other the courtesy of curiosity. Allow people to be undefined in your mind. Actively seek to see them, and allow them to show you who they are."
"If you don't have all the information, stop filling in the blanks with your imagination, fears or projections. It's better to learn to sit with an unclear picture than to carry around an inaccurate one."
"Instant gratification can be a form of self-harm."
"If you're doing the work, you deserve to be with someone who is also doing the work. It's simple."
"Relationship tip: When someone tells you what they want (or don't want) through words or actions — listen. Stop assuming you know better than they do. It's not your job to read their mind, anticipate their needs, or save them."

548: Nick Maggiulli - The Power of Compounding, Creating a Writing Practice, Building Your Career, & Proven Ways To Build Wealth Oct 08, 2023

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What's the Matthew Effect? The Matthew effect explains how two people can start in nearly the same place and end up worlds apart. In these kinds of systems, initial conditions matter. And as time goes on, they matter more and more.
Instead of saving a fixed percentage of your income, save more when you earn more and less when you make less.
The best way to save more is to earn more, not cut expenses to the point of being miserable.
The real question money forces us to answer is what's important to us in life.
You should save what you can, when you can. Relying on a fixed, prescribed savings rate is nonsense.
- The Dolly Varden trout, an Alaskan fish species, puzzled biologists for decades. Despite only having a brief window of plentiful food each year — when salmon laid eggs in their waters — the fish continued to thrive year-round. How did they do it? Eventually, scientists discovered that the fish shrink and grow their digestive organs depending on food availability. When the salmon show up, they speed up their metabolism so they can take in more calories. Then, when the other fish leave, they slow down digestion. This way, they get by with much less food throughout the remainder of the year.
Great Things Take Time – Focusing on the long term is more important than ever. The story of the "Dashrath Manjhi Breakthrough" – He carved a path through a mountain. He moved a little bit of rock each day for 20 years.
Nick committed to writing one blog per week in 2017. And it changed his life. He learned that storytelling is what captures a reader's attention. And the way to develop good stories is to read a lot, from a wide variety of sources. We all can do this.
One decision can change everything. NASA decided that Voyager 2 would slingshot around planets has made it the farthest man-made object from Earth. And it's still producing information for us.
The Constant Reminder – How the Right Decisions and Compounding Can Lead to Huge Results. How have the decisions made by NASA 40 years ago had a profound effect on the Voyager missions and success to this day? Once a successful process is implemented, the results can be surprising. The point is to show you that making the right choices and letting things run their course can lead to incredible results. This is what makes consistent actions and the power of compounding so amazing. "When I think about creating a new habit in my life, I like to imagine all of the future benefits from that habit discounted back to the moment when the habit is formed."

547: Dr. Michael Gervais - How To Stop Worrying What Other People Think About You (Finding Mastery) Oct 01, 2023

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The pursuit of mastery is part of a process. It's an orientation towards experience. It's about being fully absorbed in the moment.
Our fear of other people's opinions (FOPO) has become irrational and unproductive, and its negative effects reach far beyond performance. If you start paying less and less attention to what makes you you—your talents, beliefs, and values—and start conforming to what others may or may not think, you'll harm your potential.
Acknowledgments: "To Lisa, the love of my life. "It's because of you that I no longer pray for calm waters, but to rather test the strength of our sails."
Basing self-worth on performance – when the core motivation of pursuing excellence is proving our self-worth, mistakes, failures, opinions, and criticism are experienced as threats rather than learning opportunities.
A Learner's Mindset - A student came to a renowned monk and asked to learn about Zen Buddhism. Shortly after the monk launched into his discourse, the student interrupted him and said, "Oh, I already know that" in an attempt to impress the monk. The monk suggested they discuss the matter over tea. When the tea was ready, the monk poured the tea into a teacup, filled it to the brim—and then continued to pour—spilling tea over the sides of the cup and onto the table. The student watched the overflowing cup until he could no longer restrain himself, "Stop! You can't pour tea into a full cup." The monk set the teapot down and replied, "Exactly. Return to me when your cup is empty."
- "Anchoring our sense of self in discovery is not a cop-out to avoid committing to who we are; rather, it's simply an acknowledgment that we change with time."
Harvard psychology professor Dan Gilbert points out, "Human beings are works in progress that mistakenly think they're finished."
Purpose over Approval – From a young age, we are conditioned to seek approval. Over time, we develop a built-in mechanism to check outside ourselves to see if everything is okay. But… we have another choice. That is our purpose…
"Purpose is the belief that you are alive to do something. It is an internally derived, generalized intention that's both meaningful to you and consequential to the world beyond you."
Optimism isn't soft. in fact, it sits at the center of mental toughness. Have you conditioned your mind for optimism?
Dr. Mike has worked with Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, and his leadership team to develop psychological principles and practices for high-performing teams and cultures.
As a sport psychology consultant, he was a member of the Seattle Seahawks team for 9 seasons, including two back-to-back Super Bowl appearances (winning in 2014). His primary objective was to assist Head Coach, Pete Carroll, to build a mindset-based culture.
For Red Bull Stratos, Dr. Mike helped Felix Baumgartner manage his mind and body under pressure for his record-setting skydive from 128,000 feet.
We need to make a fundamental commitment to practice at the edge of our capacity. One of the prompts I use in my life is, "What did I do today to push my edges?" What did I do that was uncomfortable… And making the commitment to stack day after day of pushing my edges makes that comfort zone bigger and bigger. Ask yourself, "What did I do today to push my edges?"
FOPO shows up almost everywhere in our lives—and the consequences are great. When we let FOPO take control, we play it safe and small because we're afraid of what will happen on the other side of critique. When challenged, we surrender our viewpoint. We trade in authenticity for approval. We please rather than provoke. We chase the dreams of others rather than our own.

546: Tim Ryan - Giving Stump Speeches, Using Meditation & Mindfulness, Playing Quarterback, Listening to Dave Matthews Band, and Running for President? Sep 24, 2023

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Gratitude – For Tim's last speech as a congressman, he said "It's an honor to be a citizen of the United States. I think we get out of this mess we're in, the polarization, the hate, the anger, the fear… The first step out of that is with gratitude."
Tim opens by sharing the impact his high school football coaches had on him and why playing quarterback at John F. Kennedy High School prepared him for life as a leader...
In 2002, Tim ran for the United States House of Representatives for the 17th District. Tim was initially seen as an underdog in a 6-way primary. He was elected at age 29.
"There is an exhausted majority in the country, and they feel like they don't have any political home at all," Ryan said, describing his target audience as those who have been "checking out." "That's maddening because that gives a bigger voice to those forces of division and hate and anger, so we want to build an organization that welcomes these people to participate."
AOC endorsed Tim for his Senate run in 2022. And he said, "It's not helpful here. Nor did I seek it."
David Axelrod said about Tim's 2022 Senate Run that "he's running the best campaign in the country. And the best campaign in the country may not be enough."
"Dave Matthews has inspired me to live a better life, to do what's right, that it's okay to care about each other."
- "There may be some things where we don't agree, but I think we need to have decent people that care about us in government, and I think Tim is a decent man." -- Dave Matthews
- "I'm honored to have Dave Matthews, one of my absolute favorite musicians, in the Buckeye State to fire up our team and bring this thing home."
Being in the moment – The campaign trail is grueling. Every day is a new town with new people. And you need to get up and give your stump speech, listen to people, and tell compelling stories. His mantra of "I am only in control of this stump speech," and Tim's ability to stay in the moment was critical and is a key reason why he's done so well over the years.
Tim's grandfather… And the impact he had on his life. "He was there."
- Regardless of the weather or whatever he had going on, Tim felt his grandfather's presence as a servant leader. This is an excellent reminder for us as leaders that our first job is to show up consistently for those we are leading.

545: Will Guidara - The Remarkable Power of Giving People More Than They Expect (Unreasonable Hospitality) Sep 17, 2023

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"Intention means every decision, from the most obviously significant to the seemingly mundane, matters."
"My dad says "The best way to learn is to teach." He taught me to study for tests as if I were going in to deliver a presentation. At EMP, I made teaching part of our culture."
- "Public speaking is a leadership skill."
Excellence is about small details — A couple of examples of that were lighting and music.
- "Maybe people don't notice every single individual detail, but in aggregate, they're powerful. In any great business, most of the details you closely attend to are ones that only a tiny, tiny percentage of people will notice."
"Some of the best advice I ever got about starting in a new organization is; Don't cannonball. Ease into the pool."
Magic: "Too many people approach creative brainstorming by taking what's practical into consideration way too early in the process. Start with what you want to achieve, instead of limiting yourself to what's realistic or sustainable."
"Sometimes magic is just someone spending more time on something than anyone else might reasonably expect." – Penn and Teller
"Often, the perfect moment to give someone more responsibility is before they're ready."
The daily 30-minute meeting: "A daily 30-minute meeting is where a collection of individuals becomes a team."
Find hidden treasures: Will's dad had his own platoon in Vietnam. It wasn't a great platoon. On it was a guy nicknamed Kentucky, Kentucky was lazy and wasn't in great shape. He wasn't that smart, but he was skilled directionally and had a great feel for being in the woods.
- "A leader's responsibility is to identify the strengths of the people on their team, no matter how buried those strengths might be."
"Business like life is all about how you make people feel. It's that simple and that hard." - Danny Meyer
"In restaurants, our reason for being is to make people feel, seen, it's to make them feel welcome, it's to give them a sense of belonging. The food, the service, the design, they are simply ingredients in the recipe of human connection"
"The One Minute Manager by Ken Blanchard and Spencer Johnson. I still give The One Minute Manager to every person I promote. It's an amazing resource, in particular on how to give feedback. My biggest takeaways were: Criticize the behavior, not the person. Praise in public; criticize in private. Praise with emotion, criticize without emotion."
"What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?"
"What criticism offers you, then, is an invitation to have your perspective challenged—or at least to grow by truly considering it. You might stick with a choice you've been criticized for or end up somewhere completely different. The endgame isn't the point as much as the process: you grow when you engage with another perspective and decide to decide again."
"The aggregation of marginal gains," or a small improvement in a lot of areas. In his words: "The whole principle came from the idea that if you broke down everything you could think of that goes into riding a bike, and then improve it by 1 percent, you will get a significant increase when you put them all together."

544: Adam Bornstein - The Advisor for LeBron James, Cindy Crawford, & Arnold Schwarzenegger Shares How To Build Your Dream Job Sep 10, 2023

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Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote the foreword. "I've known Adam for more than 10 years. In addition to being one of the smartest people in nutrition I've met, he's the perfect person to blaze a better path that provides a more direct, realistic, and effective way to improve your health and mindset and achieve your goals."
Take the attitude of an intern. Adam shares how he impressed Arnold Schwarzenegger. Be kind. Show up. Be consistent. Do great work. Don't be greedy. Be generous. And keep going. That great work led to the introduction to LeBron James. Adam has done a great job of making the most of the luck he's received.
Self-perception: how changing your thoughts and releasing mental baggage make adopting new behaviors, such as eating healthy, easier.
This is a thorough examination of why most diet plans fail, including research and case studies that demonstrate the inefficacy of restriction.
Book Dedication: "Dad, You were given a death sentence and turned it into a life sentence. That's the power of a different mindset. Thanks for showing me the way. I love you." Adam's dad was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer and he's been very optimistic in the face of it.
- "Most people fail physically because they are broken mentally."
Inversion: Start at the end. Anticipate that you didn't achieve your goal, and ask why? And then ask, how do I prevent that from happening?
The three tactical things you can do:
- Self-perception - Believe you can do it
- Find things you love and don't remove them
- Add 1 or 2 new behaviors that are easy to win
How to manage your diet:
- Slow down your eating
- Create a meal boundary (have open and closed kitchen times)
- Low fat vs Low carbs - Protein and fiber are needed
Have no 0% weeks. Make progress.

543: Eric Musselman - Running Great Team Meetings, Developing Your People, Building a Championship Program (Head Men's Basketball Coach at The University of Arkansas) Sep 03, 2023

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Eric Musselman is the head men's basketball coach at the University of Arkansas. Prior to his time at Arkansas, he was a head coach in the NBA with the Golden State Warriors and the Sacramento Kings. He's also spent time as the national coach for the Dominican Republic National Team and The Venezuela National Team.

Learn from others. Muss shared many examples of times he's gone to other practices to watch and learn. He prefers to watch how and NFL runs practice and he's modeled his practices after NFL teams. And sends his coaches to do the same. This is something we should do in corporate America. Connect with leaders at other companies and visit them. Watch their meetings, their 1 on 1s, and embed yourself in their culture for a few days.
- When Muss got fired as the coach of the Golden State Warriors, he was offered office space (from Mike Lombardi) at the Oakland Raiders facility. While there, he learned the ins and outs of running a professional program and has modeled a lot of his system from that experience.
Leadership "Must-Haves" to be on his staff:
- Loyalty
- Will to win
- Specialty area of expertise
Meetings: PREPARE a lot. Grab their attention. Keep them on their toes with surprises. All of these things can be done in business meetings… BUT it takes time and effort to do it well.
Muss's life philosophy is to be a constant learner AND a great communicator. He takes pages of notes with him to the gym every morning and reads, takes notes, and highlights the entire time. Then he synthesizes what he's learned and shares it with his team. We all can do this. Again, it takes intentional effort, but it's worth it.
At the beginning of each practice, he does a "classroom" session with his team. He teaches a life lesson or a lesson on basketball.
Family Coaching Legacy – Musselman's father Bill was also an NBA head coach and they were the first father-son combination to become head coaches in the NBA. His sons work with him at Arkansas.
"Muss is a magician with how he communicates with referees." He works to build a genuine relationship with them.
His coaching staff has metrics they produce that help him engineer how playing time and combinations of players on the floor can produce a win.
His practices are legendary. Like a well-oiled machine. Everyone has a role. And they are open to the public.
- If a player isn't in a drill, he better be on the sideline dribbling or practicing his game in some way. Always improving, always working.
Muss has a reputation for being the college coach who can get you to the NBA. He is extremely well-connected in the NBA. If a kid wants to enter the draft, Muss will do his homework to see where he thinks he'll get drafted, and then sit down with the kid and his parents to give him feedback.
He revolutionized the use of the transfer portal and is extremely organized when a new prospect pops up.
On his blog, Musselman wrote about the importance of matching an offense to the "team's makeup." Depending on the roster, a half-court offense might make more sense. In other cases, a team may be better suited for an "open offense." According to Musselman, the idea is to allow players to "play to their strengths."

542: Brad Stulberg - How To Excel When Everything Is Changing (Including You) Aug 27, 2023

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How to respond instead of react… The 4 P's:
- Pause
- Process
- Plan
- Proceed — Using the 4 Ps will increase your chances of responding better than reacting quickly
Non-Dual thinking. It's not this OR that. It's this AND that. It's not self-discipline or self-compassion. It can be both. As we learn more, we become more reasonable. The world is not black and white. We can live in the gray and embrace it.
Brad's core values:
- Life is the doing of his life (activities, health, workouts, showing up)
- Love is the being of his life (family, being there for the most important people)
A new model for navigating change and disorder – A neuroscientist and a biologist coined the phrase allostasis. Allostasis comes from the Greek allo, which means "variable," and stasis, which means "standing." Allostasis is defined as "Stability through change."
When Brad went to the University of Michigan, he couldn't go to football games. "It felt pointless to be in the stands instead of on the field, too close to something the loss of which I was still grieving."
Science shows that when you fight change, your body releases the stress hormone cortisol.
Hard Times are always hard – But with practice, they get easier… In a multi-year study of more than 2,000 adults aged 18 to 101 published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, University of Buffalo psychologist, Mark Seery and colleagues found that people who had experienced medium levels of adversity were both higher-functioning and more satisfied with their lives than those who had experienced extremely high levels of adversity as well as those who had experienced hardly any adversity at all…
Five Questions for Embracing Change:
- Where in your life are you pursuing fixity where it might be beneficial to open yourself to the possibility, or in some cases, the inevitability of change?
- In what parts of your life are you holding on to unrealistic expectations?
- Are there elements of your identity to which you cling too tightly?
- How might you use your core values– the rugged and flexible boundaries of your identity– to help you navigate the challenges of your life?
- In what circumstances do you tend to react when you would benefit from responding, and what conditions predispose you to that?
10 Tools for Developing Rugged Flexibility:
- Embrace non-dual thinking
- Adopt a being orientation
- Frequently update your expectations to match reality
- Practice tragic optimism, commit to wise hop, and take wise action
- Actively differentiate and integrate your sense of self
- View the world with independent and interdependent lenses
- Respond to change with the 4 Ps
- Lean on routines (and rituals) to provide stabiliy during periods of disorder
- Use behavioral activation
- Don't force meaning and growth; let them come on their own time
True confidence comes from evidence, and it allows you to OWN YOUR SEAT. Owning your seat does not mean certainty, nor does it mean a complete lack of doubts. It means taking your doubts with you and stepping into the arena no less—because you've done the work.
Easy: showing up when you are at your best and everything is clicking.
Hard: showing up when you are in a hole and the current is going against you. Most everyone can do the former. But it's the latter that has a huge impact on lasting progress, fulfillment, and success.
Progress is nonlinear. Keep pounding the stone. Some days nothing happens. Some days it cracks a little bit more. Occasionally, it splits wide open. The implication of this truth is both simple and significant: If you're addicted to visible progress, then sooner or later, you'll burn out of whatever you're pursuing. This is a big reason so many people quit after the honeymoon phase of trying something new.
Brad's 3 non-negotiable daily practices for physical and mental well-being: 1. Forty-five to ninety minutes of physical activity. 2. At least one deep-focus block of sixty to ninety minutes on good, meaningful work. 3. Do not fight evening sleepiness, which usually means bed by 10PM.
Don't define yourself by what you have. Define yourself by who you are. On developing a BEING over HAVING orientation, and the strength and freedom that comes with it.

541: Matt Higgins - Burning The Boats, Handling Imposter Syndrome, Investing on Shark Tank, & The Most Important Ingredient To Professional Success Aug 20, 2023

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Matt Higgins was an executive for the New York Jets and then the Miami Dolphins. He Co-Founded RSE Ventures with Miami Dolphins owner, Stephen Ross. Matt was a guest shark on ABC's Shark Tank (seasons 10-11), He is an executive fellow at Harvard Business School, and he recently published a book called, Burn The Boats, Toss Plan B Overboard and Unleash Your Full Potential...

Matt's Mom: "My mother, Linda, died with $100 in her bank account, but I inherited the most valuable gift a parent can give a child: limitless faith in my ability to figure anything out."
Matt gave the 2019 commencement speech at Queens College – According to Vanity Fair Contributing Editor Paul Goldberger, "This is a magnificent and truly inspiring speech that everyone should read. If you think commencement speeches are made of cliches, this one will change your mind."
The most important ingredient to professional success: "Make yourself indispensable at whatever task you're doing and you'll always have a job."
Research proves that the mere contemplation of Plan B statistically reduces the probability Plan A will ever materialize.
The advice Matt got from Daymond John on how to handle imposter syndrome on his first day of filming Shark Tank: "You belong here because you are here."
How to raise your kids to not be spoiled when you can provide anything they'd ever want?
- There is nobility in work. Ensure they do hard things and do real work.
Matt's "must-have" qualities when hiring a leader:
- Confidence + Humility
- Empathy
- They just "figure it out"
- They are a servant leader -- They can "plug holes"
Matt's four-step process:
- What's the worst that could happen?
- If it doesn't work out, what will I do?
- What's the probability the bad stuff will happen?
- What pain am I willing to endure to make it happen?
"Burn the boats for goals, not tactics."

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