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    TLS55: Udi Wertheimer on Bitcoin, The Lightning Network, Stablecoins, and More Jun 30, 2022
    Show notes

    Udi Wertheimer is a developer by trade, and one of the most thought-provoking and controversial figures on Bitcoin Twitter. We’ve had a few back-and-forths on Lightning adoption on Twitter, so I wanted to do a full episode.

    In our talk, Udi explained his views on Bitcoin and the Lightning Network, the value of stablecoins, as well as the Metaverse, Web3, Web5, and tribalism in crypto.

    → Udi’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/udiWertheimer

    Sponsors

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    → ZEBEDEE: https://zeb.gg/rooke

    Before every show, I ask listeners on Twitter to send in their best questions for future guests. I read off all the questions for the guest, and pick one listener to receive a split of the sats earned for the episode.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    03:15 - Udi Wertheimer Intro

    08:58 - How Udi’s Views on Decentralization Have Evolved

    12:30 - The State of Bitcoin Development

    32:32 - Scaling Bitcoin on the Lightning Network

    55:59 - Taro & The Role of Stablecoins

    1:12:33 - Lightning Wallet Usage

    1:19:16 - The Lightning Round


    TLS54: William Casarin on Lightning as a Communications Layer for Bitcoin, LNLink, Nostr, and Damus Jun 26, 2022
    Show notes

    William Casarin is a Bitcoin and Lightning developer working on a new project called Damus, built on the Nostr protocol.

    We had a technical discussion where William explained why he sees the Lightning Network as a communications layer for the Bitcoin economy, the ways the internet may evolve over time, and William’s work on LNLink, Nostr, and Damus.

    → Damus: https://damus.io/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    Before every show, I ask listeners on Twitter to send in their best questions for future guests. I read off all the questions for the guest, and pick one listener to receive a split of the sats earned for the episode.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    03:15 - William Casarin Intro

    07:49 - BOLT12

    10:35 - The Web and the Lightning Network

    22:57 - Will Lightning be the Communications Layer of the Bitcoin Economy?

    28:40 - The Issues with Centralized and Custodial Solutions on Lightning

    40:28 - Building on Core Lightning vs. Other LN Implementations

    45:52 - The Nostr Protocol & The Damus Client

    59:51 - The Implications of Embedding Value in Internet Apps

    1:08:01 - The Lightning Round


    TLS53: Max Webster on Hivemind Ventures, Exponential Curves, and Lightning Network Opportunities Jun 20, 2022
    Show notes

    Max Webster is the founder of Hivemind Ventures, an early stage fund investing in Bitcoin startups building on the Lightning Network.

    In our conversation, Max explained why he’s investing in Lightning Network startups today, we explored the business opportunities for Lightning nodes, liquidity marketplaces, and emerging payment apps, and we got into startup valuations, identifying strong founders, and finding product-market fit in the Lightning ecosystem.

    → Hivemind Ventures: https://hivemind.vc/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    Before every show, I ask listeners on Twitter to send in their best questions for future guests. I read off all the questions for the guest, and pick one listener to receive a split of the sats earned for the episode.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:49 - Max Webster Intro

    09:07 - How Lightning Solves Problems Crypto Can’t Solve

    12:42 - Lightning Network Scalability

    17:15 - Lightning Nodes & Railroad Networks

    25:08 - Is Max Worried About Centralization on Lightning?

    30:45 - Lightning Network Liquidity Marketplaces

    38:33 - Emerging Lightning Native Applications

    40:53 - Stacker News

    55:36 - More Than 2 Billion People on Lightning in 2032

    1:02:31 - Investing In Lightning Startups

    1:14:45 - The Lightning Round


    TLS52: Jared Nusinoff on Building Mash and Helping Creators Earn More on the Lightning Network Jun 15, 2022
    Show notes

    Jared Nusinoff is the founder and CEO of Mash, a Lightning powered platform helping anyone on the internet earn more for the content they create.

    In our conversation, Jared explained how Mash works, how independent creators can benefit from Mash in the same way independent retailers benefit from Shopify or Etsy, and the ways the internet will change when native payments are ubiquitous.

    → Mash: https://www.getmash.com/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    Before every show, I ask listeners on Twitter to send in their best questions for future guests. I read off all the questions for the guest, and pick one listener to receive a split of the sats earned for the episode.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:27 - Jared Nusinoff Intro

    05:47 - How Does Mash Work?

    07:00 - Why Is the Lightning Network Essential for Mash?

    22:20 - Mash Enables Creators Like Shopify Enables Merchants

    28:24 - Mash’s Total Addressable Market

    37:50 - Pay As You Enjoy & Value 4 Value

    42:06 - How Much Can Creators Earn on Mash?

    54:51 - Web3, Web5, and the Future of the Internet

    59:46 - The Lightning Round


    TLS51: Roy Sheinfeld on Building Breez, Streaming Sats, & LN Adoption Jun 10, 2022
    Show notes

    Roy Sheinfeld is the co-founder and CEO of Breez, a self-custodial platform for streaming sats to podcasters, accepting payments as a merchant, and sending Bitcoin all on the Lightning Network.

    In our conversation, Roy shared insight into Breez adoption and the types of users on the app, and we explored the business of supplying liquidity on the Lightning Network.

    → Breez: https://breez.technology/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    At the end of every show, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:39 - Roy Sheinfeld Intro

    11:20 - Streaming Sats on the Lightning Network

    16:31 - Why Podcasts Adopted Lightning Before the Music Industry

    25:26 - Breez’s Point of Sale System

    31:48 - The Future of Payment Types on Lightning

    39:06 - Breez’s Roadmap

    52:16 - Lightning on the Internet vs. a Lightning Internet

    57:59 - Breez’s Liquidity Service Provider Business

    1:05:29 - The Lightning Round


    TLS50: Alex Leishman on Building River, Taro Use Cases, and Earning Yield on the Lightning Network Jun 04, 2022
    Show notes

    Alex Leishman is the founder and CEO of River, a platform for buying Bitcoin that also happens to be one of the largest players on the Lightning Network.

    In our conversation, Alex explained why River launched their Lightning integration way back in 2019, we explored some of the new use cases Taro could unlock on Lightning, and examined the risk-reward tradeoffs of earning yield on Lightning vs. other forms of yield.

    → River: https://river.com/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    Before every show, I ask listeners on Twitter to send in their best questions for future guests. I read off all the questions for the guest, and pick one listener to receive a split of the sats earned for the episode.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:51 - Alex Leishman Intro

    04:48 - Why Alex Built River

    11:23 - Why River Integrated the Lightning Network

    17:19 - Important Lightning Trends for River

    25:59 - Will River Facilitate Asset Exchanges on Taro?

    35:27 - Lessons Learned from Operating Lightning Routing Nodes

    45:01 - Earning Yield on the Lightning Network

    53:26 - Will Bitcoin Flow to Lightning As Yields Rise?

    57:00 - Risks of Operating a Hot Lightning Wallet

    59:14 - Exponential Lightning Network Growth

    1:01:48 - The Lightning Round


    TLS49: Paul Itoi on Stakwork, Sphinx Chat, Earning Bitcoin, and AI vs. Humans Jun 01, 2022
    Show notes

    Paul Itoi has built two of the most popular Lightning applications to date, Sphinx Chat and Stakwork. These platforms already enable people to chat and earn over the Lightning Network, and Paul’s vision for where these platforms will go next is incredible.

    In our wide-ranging conversation, Paul and I discussed the concept of earning Bitcoin, how AIs and humans can work together to truly build a world computer, and how decentralized knowledge graphs can help people learn faster than ever.

    → Sphinx: https://sphinx.chat/

    → Stakwork: https://stakwork.ai/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    At the end of every show, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:26 - Paul Itoi Intro

    05:29 - Why Build on Lightning?

    10:36 - What is Stakwork?

    14:53 - How Humans and AIs Can Work Together

    21:10 - How Earning Bitcoin Can Change The Way We Work

    32:52 - Stakwork’s Real World Impact Today

    46:19 - Sphinx & Their Decentralized Knowledge Graph

    51:47 - Knowledge Graph Use Cases

    1:04:36 - What Else Will Be Built on Bitcoin?

    1:08:49 - The Lightning Round


    TLS48: Michael Levin on Lightning Labs, Bitcoin & Lightning Adoption, and Taro May 28, 2022
    Show notes

    Michael Levin is a Product Manager at Lightning Labs, a company building tools to bring Bitcoin to billions.

    In our conversation, Michael and I discussed the dual adoption curves of Bitcoin, we explored the entire suite of Lightning Labs products, and we discussed Taro and the future of the Lightning Network.

    → Lightning Labs: https://lightning.engineering/

    → The Dual Adoption Curves of Bitcoin (Part 1): https://michael-levin.medium.com/part-1-the-dual-adoption-curves-of-bitcoin-2ffafbc5d5e7

    → The Dual Adoption Curves of Bitcoin (Part 2): https://michael-levin.medium.com/part-2-lightning-network-bitcoins-crossing-the-chasm-superpower-7fe4fd4702dc

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    At the end of every show, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:21 - Michael Levin Intro

    05:27 - Bitcoin as an Asset & a Network

    14:49 - The Lightning Network’s Crossing the Chasm Moment

    17:33 - Value 4 Value

    27:58 - Lightning Labs and LND

    39:27 - Lightning Loop

    44:40 - Lightning Pool

    59:04 - Plebnet & The Role of Routing Node Operators

    1:09:26 - Lightning Network Usage, Fees, and Capacity

    1:15:06 - Taro and a Multi-Asset Lightning Network

    1:30:46 - Lightning Network Predictions

    1:39:24 - The Lightning Round


    TLS47: Henrik Skogstrøm on LN Capital and Operating a Successful Lightning Network Routing Node May 25, 2022
    Show notes

    Henrik Skogstrøm is the founder of LN Capital, a company building capital management software for routing nodes.

    In our conversation, Henrik and I discussed LN Capital’s first product Torq, the challenges routing operators face today, the addressable market for Lightning Network payments, and the skill and capital requirements for being a successful Lightning node operator.

    → LN Capital: https://ln.capital/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    At the end of every show, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:07 - Henrik Skogstrøm Intro

    07:27 - The Addressable Market for Lightning Routing

    13:54 - Measuring Routing Efficiency on the Lightning Network

    19:53 - Bitcoin as a Productive Asset

    24:09 - Factors Affecting Lightning Income Yield

    29:01 - Ways to Earn Yield on Lightning

    38:45 - Automating Lightning Node Operations

    43:04 - What Skills Make for Good Routing Node Operators?

    53:56 - Regulations & the Lightning Network

    57:45 - Lightning Network Predictions

    1:05:40 - The Lightning Round


    TLS46: Rene Pickhardt on Multi-Part Payments, Zero Base Fee, and Lightning Network Limitations May 18, 2022
    Show notes

    Rene Pickhardt is an independent researcher working on improving payments on the Lightning Network.

    In our talk, Rene explained his experience doing independent Bitcoin research, how multi-part payments and zero base fees can improve Lightning payments, and some of the limitations of the Lightning Network today.

    → Rene’s Website: https://ln.rene-pickhardt.de/

    Sponsors

    → Voltage: https://voltage.cloud?utm_source=kevinrooke&utm_medium=Youtube&utm_campaign=1mo

    → ZEBEDEE: https://zbd.gg/

    At the end of every show, I answer any questions listeners send in over the Lightning Network.

    To ask a question, send a message, or to support the show, download Fountain from the App Store and load your wallet with a few sats.

    → Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/

    → More Episodes: https://play.fountain.fm/show/P6XXuSPg6f2rj4ECB0fT

    → Lightning Address: ⚡kerooke@fountain.fm

    Links

    → Twitter: https://twitter.com/kerooke

    → Books: https://www.kevinrooke.com/book-recommendations

    → Blog: https://www.kevinrooke.com/blog

    Timestamps

    00:00 - Intro

    02:21 - Rene Pickhardt Intro

    10:40 - Rene’s Experience Writing Mastering The Lightning Network

    15:41 - Rene’s Experience as an Independent Researcher

    27:41 - Multi-Part Payments

    47:51 - Reliability, Fees, and Latency on Lightning

    54:15 - Zero Base Fees

    1:09:57 - Real-World Parallels for Lightning Network Architecture

    1:16:41 - Limitations of the Lightning Network

    1:21:01 - The Lightning Round


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