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    The ITSPmagazine Podcast

    Founded in 2015, ITSPmagazine began as a vision for a publication positioned at the critical intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. What started as a written publication has evolved into a comprehensive repository for all their content—podcasts, articles, event coverage, interviews, videos, panels, and everything they create.
    This is where Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli talk about cybersecurity, technology, society, music, storytelling, branding, conference coverage, and whatever else catches their attention. Over a decade of conversations exploring how these worlds collide, influence each other, and shape the human experience.
    This is where you’ll find it all.

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    The California Delete Act: Emerging Changes for Data Brokers and Its Impact on Data Privacy | A Conversation with Nia Luckey | Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin Oct 17, 2023
    Show notes

    Guest: Nia Luckey, Senior Cybersecurity Business Consultant at Infosys [@Infosys]

    On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/nia-f-713270127/

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    Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

    On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin

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    Episode Notes

    In this episode of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, host Sean Martin and guest Nia Luckey discuss the California Delete Act (California Senate Bill 362) and its impact on data privacy and protection. They delve into the concept of data brokers and the sensitive information they gather, such as personal details, credit data, facial recognition, and driving behaviors.

    Presenting a couple examples, the conversation raises questions about responsibility for data protection in the realms of autonomous vehicles and platforms like Meta. They emphasize the need for businesses to understand the data they collect, educate themselves on data privacy regulations, and consider offering opt-out options for customers. Of course, providing the option to delete data is going to be a non-negotiable customer feature.

    The discussion also touches on the challenges faced by smaller organizations in complying with the bill and provides advice on data inventory and protection. They stress the importance of knowing what data is being collected, where it is stored, and how to protect it to an appropriate standard. They highlight the need for businesses, regardless of size, to prioritize data protection and privacy. The ultimate aim is to empower individuals and businesses to have control over their data and protect privacy in an interconnected world.

    The conversation takes a consumer-centric approach, discussing the implications for individuals and their rights to opt out of data collection. They explore the potential difficulties in deleting data from various platforms and emphasize the importance of making the process accessible and user-friendly.

    Throughout the episode, Sean and Nia engage in a thoughtful and informative conversation, touching on topics such as data classification schemes, data handling practices, and the overall spirit of the California bill. They encourage businesses to proactively manage risk and ethics and take steps to protect data and privacy.

    By listening to this episode, listeners can expect to gain a deeper understanding of the California Delete Act, its implications for data privacy, and the responsibilities businesses have in protecting sensitive information. They provide practical advice and insights to help individuals and organizations navigate the complex landscape of data protection and privacy regulations.

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    Resources

    An Analysis of California Senate Bill 362 - The California Delete Act: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/analysis-california-senate-bill-362-delete-act-nia-f-luckey-lssbb

    International Association of Privacy Professionals (IAPP). California Legislature Passes Delete Act for PI Aggregated by Data Brokers: https://iapp.org/news/a/california-legislature-passes-delete-act-for-pi-aggregated-by-data-brokers/#:~:text=The%20California%20State%20Legislature%20passed,information%20collected%20by%20data%20brokers

    California Legislature. (2023). Senate Bill 362.: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB362

    California's 'Delete Act' Could Let You Scrub Your Data From Brokers' Files.: https://fortune.com/2023/09/15/california-delete-act/

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    To see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:

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    Take Control of Your Destiny | A Conversation with Drew Simonis | The Soulful CXO Podcast with Dr. Rebecca Wynn Oct 17, 2023
    Show notes

    Guest: Drew Simonis, Chief Information Security Officer at Juniper Networks [@JuniperNetworks]

    On Twitter | https://twitter.com/drewsimonis?lang=en

    On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/drew-simonis-4893311/

    Host: Dr. Rebecca Wynn

    On ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/rebecca-wynn

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    Episode Description

    This is a fascinating conversation with two world-class CISOs sharing their unconventional technological journeys. They discuss the importance of intentionally managing your career and the lessons learned from taking adjacent jobs and even stepping back to move forward. They also delve into the challenges of career progression, the need to support transformation, and those who prefer to stay in their current roles. Join us as we explore these topics and gain insights from our guest's experience transforming and growing teams in today's competitive job market. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking episode!

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    Resources

    What's next for Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs) in 2023?: https://www.juniper.net/us/en/the-feed/topics/security/whats-next-for-cisos-in-2023.html

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    Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/soulfulcxo

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    For more podcast stories from The Soluful CXO Podcast With Rebecca Wynn: https://www.itspmagazine.com/the-soulful-cxo-podcast

    ITSPMagazine YouTube Channel:

    📺 https://www.youtube.com/@itspmagazine

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    The Philosophy of Technology | A Conversation with Daniel Sanderson | Redefining Society with Marco Ciappelli Oct 15, 2023
    Show notes

    Guest: Daniel Sanderson, Owner at Planksip [@planksip]

    On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielplanksip/?originalSubdomain=ca

    On Twitter | https://twitter.com/planksip

    On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@planksip

    Website | https://www.planksip.org/

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    Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast

    On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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    Episode Introduction

    Hey there, folks! This is Marco Ciappelli, and do we have an intriguing episode for you on Redefining Society Podcast. Have you ever stopped to think about the role technology plays in society or pondered the ethical dilemmas that come with AI? Well, if you're interested in discussions that live at the intersection of technology, ethics, and society, you'll want to tune into our latest episode titled "The Philosophy of Technology with Daniel Sanderson."

    As many of you already know, our society is knee-deep in technology and AI discussions, which often leads us back to philosophy, ethics, and sociology. These topics have never been more relevant in public conversations today. That's why we're diving into a thought-provoking talk with Daniel Sanderson, a philosopher hailing from Canada, who also happens to be the founder of the media outlet PlankSip.

    Daniel has a lot to say about how technology impacts society, our fears, and the role philosophers play in redefining society for the better. He discusses the current climate and how the psychology of society could shift if we understood that we are at a critical point in history. The episode also explores what it would mean for AI to embody humanity, a question that challenges our core beliefs and dissolves our fears.

    You won't want to miss Daniel's unique perspective, especially his ideas around a thought experiment that pivots the entire conversation about the potential of AI and technology. So come join us in redefining society and consider some provocative perspectives that are likely to shape your own understanding of where humanity is headed.

    Make sure to hit that subscribe button so you never miss out on any of our future episodes. And, of course, if you're inspired by what you hear, feel free to share it with friends, family, and anyone else who's up for a hearty intellectual challenge.

    Now, push play and give it a listen. Trust me, you're in for a treat.

    Cheers!

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    Resources

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    To see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:
    https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcast

    Watch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllTUoWMGGQHlGVZA575VtGr9

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    The Firstborn Hypothesis | Stories From Space Podcast With Matthew S Williams Oct 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Host | Matthew S Williams

    On ITSPmagazine 👉 https://itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/matthew-s-williams

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    Episode Notes

    Could humanity be the first intelligent civilization to emerge in our galaxy? Could that be why, when we look up at the night sky, we are confronted with a "Great Silence"? This is the essence of the "Firstborn Hypothesis," a proposed resolution to Enrico Fermi's time-honored question ("Where is Everybody?")

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    Resources

    Beyond "Fermi's Paradox" X: The Firstborn Hypothesis: https://www.universetoday.com/147591/beyond-fermis-paradox-x-the-firstborn-hypothesis/

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    For more podcast Stories from Space with Matthew S Williams, visit: https://itspmagazine.com/stories-from-space-podcast


    The Game Show: CISO Jeopardy! | How Many CISOs Does an Organization Really Need? | A Musing On the Future of Cybersecurity and Humanity with Sean Martin and TAPE3 | Read by TAPE3 Oct 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Join us for an immersive fictional game show story that delves into the critical factors and decisions driving the number of CISOs an organization might need in today's complex cybersecurity landscape.

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    This fictional story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.

    Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to "The Future of Cybersecurity" newsletter on LinkedIn.

    Sincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE3

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    Sean Martin is the host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, part of the ITSPmagazine Podcast Network—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli—where you may just find some of these topics being discussed. Visit Sean on his personal website.

    TAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence for ITSPmagazine, created to function as a guide, writing assistant, researcher, and brainstorming partner to those who adventure at and beyond the Intersection Of Technology, Cybersecurity, And Society. Visit TAPE3 on ITSPmagazine.


    "Old Fox's Justice" A Play At The New York Theater Festival | A Conversation with Playwrights Tahiana Larissa and Marco Augusto Ferreira | Audio Signals Podcast With Marco Ciappelli Oct 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Guests:

    Tahiana Larissa, Playwright

    On Twitter | https://twitter.com/tahianalarissa

    On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/tahianalarissaoficial/

    On Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/tahianalarissapy

    Website | https://tahianalarissa.com/

    Marco Augusto Ferreira, Playwright

    On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/marco-augusto-ferreira-65400413a/?locale=en_US

    On Twitter | https://twitter.com/AugustFerre

    On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/marcoaugustoferre/

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    Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast

    On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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    Episode Introduction

    “A DEA agent is found dead in mysterious circumstances in Paraguay. To protect his wife, a retiring prosecutor tries to label it as an overdose. The US sends an FBI agent to uncover the facts, confronting Paraguay’s corrupt justice system against America’s pursuit of truth.”

    Hello and welcome back to the Audio Signals Podcast, where we muse on stories and storytellers. I'm Marco Ciappelli, your host, and I'm thrilled to have you here with us today. If you're new to the show, we dive deep into stories, storytelling, and the storytellers who create and share these narratives using a multitude of different media. In this show, I like to analyze not just the narrative but also the societal and sometimes technological layers that often go unnoticed, along with all that goes on behind the scenes of a story—whatever the format might be.

    Alright, let's get to it. Today is special—no, it’s extraordinary. Why? Because we're taking a trip through the corridors of justice with a Paraguayan twist. We're going to explore "Old Fox's Justice," a legal drama set to hit the Off-Broadway New York theater scene, but with its soul deeply entrenched in the rich soil of Paraguay. Trust me, you're going to want to hear all about this. It's not just another courtroom drama; it's an exploration of justice, culture, and humanity at an intersection that most people wouldn't even consider.

    With me today are Tahiana Larissa and Marco Augusto Ferreira. These two writers, both natives of Paraguay, have gone above and beyond to craft a tale that places two justice systems in a head-on collision and forces us to examine our own perspectives. If you're intrigued by the interplay of societal structures and individual narratives, you cannot afford to miss this conversation.

    What's fascinating here is the universality of the story. Justice, as a concept, transcends borders. Yet, it's deeply influenced by the societies and cultures from which it originates. So when you throw the U.S. and Paraguayan systems into a pot and stir, what exactly bubbles to the surface? That's what we're here to explore. We'll also delve into the adventure of bringing a play to life on stage, discussing everything it takes to produce it—from actors to directors, costumes, and all the details and immense amount of work that goes behind it.

    So sit tight, grab your beverage of choice, or just your favorite chair, and gear up for a session that promises to be enlightening, entertaining, and certainly inspiring.

    Be sure to subscribe to the Audio Signals Podcast and share it with your friends and family so that we can all sit around a digital campfire and enjoy some good stories!


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    Resources

    Old Fox's Justice (Indiegogo): https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/old-fox-s-justice-a-paraguayan-play-in-ny#/

    Old Fox's Justice Producing Company: https://www.instagram.com/cabalateatropy/

    Old Fox's Justice at the New York Theater Festival: https://newyorktheaterfestival.com/old-foxs-justice/

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    For more podcast stories from Audio Signals:
    https://www.itspmagazine.com/audio-signals

    Watch the video version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS0aVY7qlwHxX3uiN7tqqsy

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    The Future of Secure Business Browsing: Isolation and Protection | Browser Security : Isolation-101 | A SecTor Event Coverage Conversation with Evgeniy Kharam Oct 13, 2023
    Show notes

    Guest: Evgeniy Kharam, Cybersecurity Professional, Security Architecture Podcast [@secarchpodcast]

    On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ekharam/

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    Hosts:

    Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

    On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin

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    Episode Notes

    In this episode of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, host Sean Martin is joined by Evgeniy Kharam to explore the world of browser security and browser isolation. They discuss the user experience and the policies that organizations can apply to protect against security threats.

    The conversation delves into the concept of remote browser isolation and its application in ensuring user safety when visiting unknown or malicious websites. They also dive into the benefits of using enterprise browsers and the control they provide over website access, malware scanning, data loss prevention, and more.

    The episode touches on the impact of browser security on security programs, team structures, and the tech stack. They discuss the relatively new browser security space and its potential to disrupt the SASE and SSE markets. Evgeniy shares insights into the potential transformation of the cybersecurity landscape and predicts that endpoint solutions may incorporate isolation technology. The episode concludes with a preview of Evgeniy's upcoming session at the SecTor security conference in Toronto, where he will dive deeper into browser security isolation.

    Overall, this episode offers valuable insights into the evolving world of browser security and its potential impact on cybersecurity practices. Listeners can expect an engaging conversation that combines technical knowledge with practical applications.

    About Evgeniy's SecTor Session: There has been renewed hype about adding more security efforts around the browser. New security startups and the bigger players as well have been making the case that because browsing is such an inherent part of our work and personal lives, we should address phishing and other attacks there. After interviewing and analyzing the offerings of many providers, I will share my findings and perspective on the market. This session will go over key points on how such a technology might be used in your organization, the pitfalls and how it fits in with / competes with other product suites like SASE and EDR. What you will learn:

    - Use cases for browser isolation/enterprise browser

    - ZTNA using browser isolation/enterprise browser

    - Where browser isolation/enterprise browser fits in an environment

    - Vendor land space

    - What we should expect in the next 12-18 months

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    Watch this and other videos on ITSPmagazine's YouTube Channel

    Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin, CISSP playlist:

    📺 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq
    ITSPmagazine YouTube Channel:

    📺 https://www.youtube.com/@itspmagazine

    Be sure to share and subscribe!

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    Resources

    Browser Security / Isolation-101 (session): https://www.blackhat.com/sector/2023/briefings/schedule/#browser-security--isolation-101-34279

    Learn more about SecTor 2023: https://www.blackhat.com/sector/2023/

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    To see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:

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    The Dawn of Conscious Machines | A Conversation with Jeremie Harris | Cyber Cognition Podcast with Hutch Oct 13, 2023
    Show notes

    Guest: Jeremie Harris, Co-Founder, Gladstone AI

    On Twitter | https://twitter.com/jeremiecharris

    On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremieharris/

    On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@lastweekinai

    Host: Hutch

    On ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/hutch

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    Episode Introduction

    In this episode we talk to AI visionary Jeremie Harris -- co-host of the Last Week in AI Podcast, author of “Quantum Physics Made Me Do It”, and AI Safety leader and co-founder of Gladstone AI. We discuss the increasingly relevant topic of whether AI has or ever could attain consciousness, sentience, or free will. We address these questions by referring to topics of quantum physics, metaphysics, and epistemology. This is a fascinating conversation that will address a difficult but increasingly relevant topic of conversation.

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    For more podcast stories from Cyber Cognition Podcast with Hutch, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/cyber-cognition-podcast

    Watch the video podcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS12r9wDntQNB-ykHQ1UC9U


    Shecurity | A Conversation with Deidre Diamond | The Leadership Student Podcast with MK Palmore Oct 13, 2023
    Show notes

    Guest: Deidre Diamond, CEO, CyberSN [@cyber_sn]

    On Twitter | https://twitter.com/DeidreDiamond

    On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidrediamond/

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    Host: MK Palmore, Host of The Leadership Student Podcast

    On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/mk-palmore

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    This Episode’s Sponsors

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    Episode Description

    Deidre Diamond is a CEO, Founder, Non-Profit leader and a trailblazer in the security industry.

    It's always a wonderful experience when you can learn from pioneers in the security industry. Deidre Diamond entered the security industry when things just began to take off. She's a founder, CEO, non-profit leader and someone who has been vocal about bringing more women into the technology space.

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    Resources

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    To see and hear more of The Leadership Student Podcast with MK Palmore content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/the-leadership-student-podcast

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    Cyberwar Versus Electronic Warfare | A Conversation with Marc Sachs | Cy Beat Podcast With Deb Radcliff Oct 12, 2023
    Show notes

    Guest: Marcus H. Sachs, Deputy Director for Research, McCrary Institute for Cyber and Critical Infrastructure Security [@McCraryCyber]

    On Twitter | https://twitter.com/MarcusSachs

    On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcsachs/

    On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbGROxTp2WcVTqBCrLScLlg

    Host: Deb Radcliff

    On ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/deb-radcliff

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    Episode Description

    Marc Sachs was a Major in the U.S. Army supporting cyber battlefield operations when I first interviewed him for a 2001 Computerworld article about info warriors.

    Recently, Marc was instrumental distinguishing between cyber war versus electronic warfare scenarios in book three of my Breaking Backbones Hacker Trilogy, “Chaos to Order.” His infrastructure expertise was also invaluable when describing a cyber attack on three major power grids.

    Back in the '90's, “We didn’t quite know what we were doing, there were no rules of engagement … and yes, we had friends on the dark side," Marc says. In our discussions back then, we were predicting cyber battles such as those playing out in Ukraine and Israel. But we hadn't foreseen the arms-race for AI-enabled, autonomous fighting machines.

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    Resources

    Info Warriors Computerworld Article with March Sachs: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2590364/the-info--warrior.html

    Breaking Backbones: Chaos to Order, book 3 of Deb's hacker trilogy: https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Backbones-Chaos-Deb-Radcliff/dp/1665747277/

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