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    The Independent Dealer Podcast

    A podcast for Independent Used Car Dealers to get help on how to improve their dealerships and their life. As current used car dealers, Luke and Jeff find the best advice from industry experts and other successful dealers. If you want to learn and grow your business with like minded used car dealers tune in each week. “Dealers Helping Dealers”

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    #38 - Monday Minute | Stop Ordering the Paper Towels Sep 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Welcome to the Monday Minute, brought to you by Auto Analytix – your 52-week guide to a better dealership. A quick reset to help you lead better, think clearer, and build your dealership with intention. Before we get started, make sure you have reviewed Sunday's newsletter. It lays out the full theme for the week, the why behind it, and simple exercises you can work through with your team. The Monday Minute is the mindset. The newsletter is the roadmap.
    Someone walked into your office today and asked what to do about the paper towels. And you answered. And that is the problem – not the paper towels, but the fact that every decision, big or small, is running through you. You are not just the owner anymore. You have become the decision department. And every one of those decisions, no matter how small, takes a little bit of your time and a little bit of your mental energy that you are never getting back.
    In this episode, Jeff and Luke get into the decision-making framework that every dealer needs but almost nobody uses – the Eisenhower Matrix. Four quadrants, four categories, one simple filter for everything on your plate. The first quadrant is urgent and important – funding problems, serious customer issues, things that threaten today's operations. Those need you now. The second is important but not urgent – hiring a manager, reviewing financials, building next year's projections. Those need a scheduled time or they will keep getting kicked down the road until they become urgent at the worst possible moment. The third is urgent but not important – the paper towels, the toilet paper, the things that need to happen today but do not need to be you doing them. That is a delegation opportunity disguised as a crisis. Give your people the authority, the credit card, and the process – and get out of it. The fourth quadrant is not urgent and not important. Those should not exist at all. Delete them. The bigger lesson underneath all of it is not about the matrix – it is about protecting your attention. Working on the business instead of in the business is where your real value lives. Being busy does not mean being productive.
    Your assignment this week: do a brain dump of everything you handle in a day or a week and drop every single item into one of four buckets – do it, schedule it, delegate it, or delete it. Then identify the three things that truly deserve your attention as the leader of this dealership. Not because you are the owner, but because you are the leader. Your dealership needs your leadership. It does not need you ordering paper towels.
    Review this week's Sunday newsletter at TheIndependentDealer.com for the full theme and exercises.

    Not subscribed yet? Sign up now.
    This Monday Minute is brought to you by Auto Analytix – the scoreboarding and analytics platform built for independent dealers. Learn more at autoanalytix.net
    Let's build this together.


    #449 - The Rotten Apple: How One Bad Hire Can Destroy Your Dealership Culture Sep 17, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Independent Dealer Podcast, Jeff Watson and Luke Godwin sit down with Gill Florentino, Principle Owner of Mi Amigo Motors — a Dominican Republic native who watched his brother get murdered as a child, came to the United States on an athletic scholarship, pitched against Hideki Matsui in the Tokyo Dome, spent nearly a decade chasing a pro baseball career across Japan, Mexico, and Panama, recovered from two arm surgeries and a car accident that dislocated his leg, built a career at JP Morgan Chase managing a $100 billion portfolio, and eventually made his way into buy here pay here in 2013.


    Today, Gill Florentino runs multiple businesses, including a dealership operation and 14 Seasons Cigar Company, has written a book that sold over 10,000 copies in its first few months, and is widely regarded as one of the most process-driven, culture-obsessed operators in the independent dealer space.
    What You'll Learn:

    • Why Gill refuses to interview a candidate who shows up one minute late — and how he attracts the kind of people who would never do that in the first place, including a Subway sandwich artist in Lubbock making $9 an hour who became one of his best hires


    • The five-candidate interview process where every member of the organization spends 15 minutes individually with each applicant — and why the million-dollar question Gill asks reveals more about character than any resume ever will


    • Why the organization is always more important than any single person in it — and what the rotten apple in a basket of good ones has to do with why one bad hire can destroy a culture faster than you can fix it


    • How Gill runs what he calls a timeless organization — always hiring, never comfortable, always recruiting at the grocery store, the restaurant, and the subway — even when there are no open seats


    • Why Gill does not believe in goals — only processes — and how the same math that got him a Nintendo as a kid is the exact framework he uses to build repeatable sales and collections performance across multiple businesses


    • How cross-training every position at JP Morgan Chase taught him that the best person for a role is often already inside the organization — and why that principle drives how he builds teams across every business he owns


    • Why nobody in his organization will ever be more important than the organization itself — not even Gill — and what that standard looks like when you enforce it from the first phone call of the interview process


    If you are an independent dealer who has ever struggled to find good people, keep good people, or build a culture that runs without you — Gill's story is the most complete answer to all three questions in one conversation.
    Support the businesses that support the podcast:


    Buckeye Risk Services - Reinsurance and wealth strategies for independent dealers.
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    Ituran GPS - Asset protection and customer management for BHPH and retail dealers.
    https://theindependentdealer.com/ituran
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    Website: www.theindependentdealer.com
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    #37 - Monday Minute | Your Dealership Doesn't Need More Meetings, It Needs Better Ones Sep 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Welcome to the Monday Minute, brought to you by Auto Analytix – your 52-week guide to a better dealership. A quick reset to help you lead better, think clearer, and build your dealership with intention. Before we get started, make sure you have reviewed Sunday's newsletter. It lays out the full theme for the week, the why behind it, and simple exercises you can work through with your team. The Monday Minute is the mindset. The newsletter is the roadmap.
    You have sat in that meeting. No agenda, someone brings up a problem from three months ago, the whole conversation disappears down a rabbit hole, an hour disappears, nobody knows what they are doing next, and everyone just wanted to leave the entire time. That is not a meeting. That is a venting session that stole time from your dealership.
    In this episode, Jeff and Luke break down what a good meeting actually does – and it is three things: create direction, build accountability, and drive action. Jeff walks through the structure that separates a meeting worth having from one that just fills a calendar slot. Every recurring meeting needs a written agenda. Start with the wins – who did something right this week, who displayed a core value, who took care of a customer or a coworker in a way worth recognizing out loud. Then review the goals – where are you tracking for the week, the month, the quarter. Then get into the headaches – the bottlenecks, the things slowing the team down – and do what the book Traction calls IDS: identify, discuss, and solve. That last part is what most meetings skip entirely. Everyone vents, everyone circles, and nobody leaves owning the solution. Every action item out of a meeting needs a name and a deadline beside it – and the next meeting starts by reviewing those commitments. Luke adds the AI angle that makes it all easier: a Plaud recording device in the room, plugged into AI afterward, means nothing gets missed and action items write themselves. Thirty minutes of focused conversation beats an hour of rambling every single time.
    Your assignment this week: create a standard meeting agenda and save it somewhere your team can see it and update it every time you meet. Set a consistent meeting schedule and protect it – Jeff's is 9 a.m. every Monday, no exceptions, Zoom if you are not in the building. Assign someone to capture action items at every meeting – or let AI do it. And before anyone leaves, answer three questions out loud: what needs to happen, who is responsible, and when is it due. Then hold each other to it at the next one. Your dealership does not need more meetings. It needs better ones.
    Review this week's Sunday newsletter at TheIndependentDealer.com for the full theme and exercises.
    Not subscribed yet? Sign up now.
    This Monday Minute is brought to you by Auto Analytix – the scoreboarding and analytics platform built for independent dealers. Learn more at autoanalytix.net
    Let's build this together.


    #448 - The Shipping Scam Hitting Dealers Right Now (And How to Spot It) Sep 10, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Independent Dealer Podcast, Jeff Watson and Luke Godwin are both catching you from the car — Labor Day weekend, no studio, no guest, just two operators talking about what is actually happening in their businesses right now. Inventory math, recon bottlenecks, shipping scammers, retail lender lessons, AI bots doing $15-an-hour work, and what it looks like to gear up for tax season when your shop is already behind. No fluff — just the real operational conversation two dealers have when the cameras are off and the problems are live.


    What You'll Learn:

    • Why the number of cars you have ready on day one of the month is the single most accurate predictor of how many you will sell — and what a one-to-one inventory-to-sales ratio actually looks like in practice


    • How Luke sold 55 cars in August with a shop that can only produce 40 — and the recon bottleneck that left him starting September with a ghost town lot and 20 aged units piling up in the back


    • Why speed to frontline beats cost of recon every single time — and how to restructure your shop manager's pay plan right now to make velocity the priority heading into tax season


    • The shipping scam that is running rampant on Central Dispatch — and the two-word response that immediately exposes a fake carrier before you hand over your gate pass


    • Why Luke's VSC claim on an out-of-range retail deal turned into a $10,000 lesson about which service contract product to sell when your customer is too far from your shop to ever come back


    • How Luke is using AI bots — literal digital employees with their own logins — to pull shop management reports, analyze Google ad spend, clean up his website, and reconcile every bank statement without touching a keyboard


    • Why $250,000 in contracts in transit almost broke Luke's cash flow in a single month — and what the Westlake DMV lien perfection process is doing to retail dealers trying to fund deals fast


    If you are a buy here pay here or independent retail dealer trying to solve inventory flow, recon throughput, shipping chaos, and lender relationships all at the same time — this is the most honest thirty minutes you will find about what that actually looks like from the inside.
    Support the businesses that support the podcast:


    Buckeye Risk Services - Reinsurance and wealth strategies for independent dealers.
    https://theindependentdealer.com/buckeye


    Blytz - BHPH payment processing with fast funding and text-to-pay.


    Ituran GPS - Asset protection and customer management for BHPH and retail dealers.
    https://theindependentdealer.com/ituran
    Follow & Connect:
    Website: www.theindependentdealer.com
    Facebook Group: @independentautogroup
    Luke Godwin: @lukegodwin
    Jeff Watson: /sendtojeffw
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    #36 - Monday Minute | Hiring Gets Them In, Onboarding Makes Them Stay Sep 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Welcome to the Monday Minute, brought to you by Auto Analytix – your 52-week guide to a better dealership. A quick reset to help you lead better, think clearer, and build your dealership with intention. Before we get started, make sure you have reviewed Sunday's newsletter. It lays out the full theme for the week, the why behind it, and simple exercises you can work through with your team. The Monday Minute is the mindset. The newsletter is the roadmap.


    You spent weeks finding the right person. You interviewed them, you hired them, they actually showed up on day one – and then you handed them a login, pointed them toward the bathroom, and told them to follow Bob around. That is not onboarding. That is how good hires wash out in thirty days while you wonder what went wrong.


    In this episode, Jeff and Luke make the case that hiring gets someone in the door – but onboarding determines whether they stay, whether they perform, and whether they actually become part of what you are building. Jeff breaks down what those first two weeks really need to accomplish: the new hire is quietly figuring out how things work, what is expected of them, what they can get away with, and whether they made the right decision coming to work for you. A good onboarding process does not have to be complicated – it just has to be consistent. That means a seven-day checklist covering what they should learn, who they should meet, which systems they need access to, which policies they need to understand, and which processes they need to observe before they try to run them. It means assigning a mentor – not a manager, but someone they can ask the embarrassing questions without fear. And it means teaching them not just what to do but why you do it that way, because that is how culture gets passed on instead of accidentally dismantled by someone who never knew it existed. Luke adds the five-things framework – every position has five things a person must master to succeed in that role. Write them down, train on them, practice them, and then measure them. AI can help you get those things out of your head and into a checklist in minutes. But do not confuse having materials with actually training – training takes repetition, coaching, and feedback, and it does not end after the first month.


    Your assignment this week: build a seven-day onboarding checklist for every position in your dealership. Assign every new hire a mentor on day one. Define the five things each role must master and write them down. Then after a couple of weeks, ask your newest employee what is still confusing and how you can make the next onboarding even better. They will tell you – especially if they plan to stay.


    Review this week's Sunday newsletter at TheIndependentDealer.com for the full theme and exercises.


    Not subscribed yet? Sign up now.


    This Monday Minute is brought to you by Auto Analytix – the scoreboarding and analytics platform built for independent dealers. Learn more at autoanalytix.net.


    Let's build this together.


    #447 - The Carvana Effect: What the Future of Buying Cars Means for Independents Sep 03, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Independent Dealer Podcast, Jeff Watson and Luke Godwin dig into the numbers, the legislation, and the industry shifts that every independent dealer needs to be paying attention to right now. No guest — just two operators trading takes on auction inventory, used car pricing, Carvana buying a franchise store, the vanishing car salesman, California's new three-day cancellation law, and what all of it actually means for the dealer sitting on a retail lot trying to figure out where this market is going.
    What You'll Learn:

    • Why the Mannheim used car index dropped 1.2% in the first half of August while inventory climbed 2.5 days — and why that number might look different in your specific market than the national headline suggests


    • How Carvana sold the same Ram truck for $4,500 more than the brick-and-mortar franchise next door — and did it faster — and what that actually says about whether customers are paying for convenience or just getting financed somewhere they can actually get approved


    • Why one in three Gen Z buyers say they do not want to deal with a salesman — and what the friction-free buying experience means for independent dealers who are still operating nine to five Monday through Friday


    • Why older used cars are now more expensive than ever — the average three-year-old car is $9,000 more than it was in 2019 — and what the $15,000 to $25,000 sweet spot actually looks like on a retail lot right now


    • What California's new three-day used car cancellation law means for dealers — who it applies to, what the restocking fee structure looks like, what happens when the car comes back in worse condition, and whether this spreads east


    • Why Jeff thinks DealPack is going out of business within five years — and what a $5,000 a month DMS bill for 25 accounts tells you about how legacy software companies treat dealers who are trapped in long-term contracts


    • Why subprime Tesla financing is one of the biggest untapped opportunities in retail right now — and why most lenders still will not touch it


    If you are an independent dealer trying to read where this market is headed, what the big players are doing that you should be watching, and what legislation is coming that you need to prepare for — this is the episode to put on.


    Support the businesses that support the podcast:


    Buckeye Risk Services - Reinsurance and wealth strategies for independent dealers.
    https://theindependentdealer.com/buckeye


    Blytz - BHPH payment processing with fast funding and text-to-pay.
    http://www.theindependentdealer.com/blytzpay


    Ituran GPS - Asset protection and customer management for BHPH and retail dealers.
    https://theindependentdealer.com/ituran


    Follow & Connect:
    Website: www.theindependentdealer.com
    Facebook Group: @independentautogroup
    Luke Godwin: @lukegodwin
    Jeff Watson: /sendtojeffw
    Like, subscribe, and share this with a dealer who needs to hear it.


    #35 - Monday Minute | Slow to Hire, Quick to Fire Aug 31, 2026
    Show notes

    Welcome to the Monday Minute — your weekly reset to lead better, think clearer, and build your independent dealership with intention. Sponsored by Auto Analytix.


    The wrong hire costs you more than a paycheck. It costs you time, momentum, and the culture you spent months building — and sometimes you do not figure that out until weeks after the damage is done. The right hire does the opposite. New energy, real ownership, stronger team. The difference almost always comes down to whether you had a process or just had an opening that needed to be filled by tomorrow.


    In this episode, Jeff and Luke get into the hiring conversation most independent dealers avoid until they are desperate — which is exactly when they make their worst decisions. Jeff makes the case that most dealers do not struggle because they cannot find people. They struggle because they hire on urgency instead of consistency, skip the process entirely, and stuff someone into a seat because they need calls made by morning. Every candidate should go through the same interview, be asked the same questions, and be evaluated the same way — not just because it is fair and legal, but because you are not only hiring for skills. You are hiring for character. Integrity, attitude, and coachability cannot be taught. Everything else can. Luke adds the always-be-hiring mindset that most dealers abandoned after COVID and have not found their way back to — because the job market being stable is not a reason to stop looking for people who could take your dealership to the next level. The best hire you ever make might be the server at a restaurant who just handled a difficult table better than your current sales team handles a difficult customer.


    Your assignment this week: build a standard interview template and use it for every single candidate going forward. Define the three non-negotiable qualities every person you hire must have — write them down, not just carry them in your head. Pull up your current job post and ask honestly whether it makes someone want to work there. If not, run it through AI with your job description and build something better. And do not interview alone — bring in a second and third perspective before you decide, because two or three people seeing the same candidate will always catch what one person misses. Hire carefully. Lead intentionally. Your culture is built one hire at a time.


    Review this week's Sunday newsletter at TheIndependentDealer.com for the full theme and exercises.


    Not subscribed yet? Sign up now.

    https://theindependentdealer.us19.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=603446580871d8522a454418d&id=50aae74348


    Let's build this together.


    #446 - "No one takes care of my money better than me"; The ex-cop who built a $57M empire Aug 27, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Independent Dealer Podcast, Jeff Watson and Luke Godwin sit down with Juan O'Campo, founder and owner of Family Auto in the Dallas-Fort Worth area — six locations, 3,000 accounts, 78 employees, 160 units a month, and a $57 million portfolio built entirely in-house, entirely within the Hispanic community, and entirely without paying a single dollar in advertising. Juan started as a cop, spent a decade as the first manager at Tricolor, moved to California to turn around their worst market, came home to Fort Worth in 2017 with nothing but what he had learned — and built one of the most quietly elite buy here pay here operations in the country.


    What You'll Learn:

    • How Juan went from Acapulco, Mexico to Fort Worth cop to Tricolor's first manager to running a $57 million BHPH portfolio — and why leaving a VP track to start his own store was the only move that made sense
    • How Family Auto carries 2024 and 2025 model year trucks and SUVs in-house at $40,000 average loan values — getting $10,000 to $12,000 down and collecting $400,000 to $450,000 every two weeks — from a customer base that cannot get approved anywhere else
    • Why Juan pays zero dollars in advertising — no radio, no TV, no Facebook, no Google — and how 18 cars given away to people in need last year generated more referrals and goodwill than any marketing spend ever could
    • The customer grading system Juan uses to underwrite without credit scores or Social Security numbers — using utility bills, insurance history, and a manager-to-customer interview on every single delivery as the real underwriting engine
    • How Juan bootstrapped from 20 cash sales a month to a $1 million line of credit from Primaland in his tenth month — and how that line grew to $25 million and is now transitioning to a $30 million facility as the portfolio crosses 3,000 accounts
    • Why Juan runs his own recon shops, does his own collections in-house, never outsources, and reinvests every dollar back into the business — and what he learned from watching Tricolor price themselves out of the customer's reach
    • How Family Luz y Esperanza — Juan's nonprofit for domestic violence and child abuse survivors — is not just a community mission but the single biggest competitive advantage his dealership has, five years ahead of anyone trying to do what he does



    If you are an independent or buy here pay here dealer trying to understand what it looks like to build something truly elite — from nothing, for a customer nobody else will serve, with no advertising budget and no shortcuts — this is the most inspiring conversation we have had on this podcast in a long time.


    Support the businesses that support the podcast:


    Buckeye Risk Services - Reinsurance and wealth strategies for independent dealers.

    https://theindependentdealer.com/buckeye

    Blytz - BHPH payment processing with fast funding and text-to-pay.

    https://theindependentdealer.com/blytzpay

    Ituran GPS - Asset protection and customer management for BHPH and retail dealers.

    https://theindependentdealer.com/ituran


    Follow & Connect:

    Website: www.theindependentdealer.com

    Facebook Group: @independentautogroup

    Luke Godwin: @lukegodwin

    Jeff Watson: /sendtojeffw


    Like, subscribe, and share this with a dealer who needs to hear it.


    #34 - Monday Minute | Your Pay Plan Is Sending a Message — Is It the Right One? Aug 24, 2026
    Show notes

    Welcome to the Monday Minute – your weekly reset to lead better, think clearer, and build your independent dealership with intention. Sponsored by Auto Analytix.


    Every pay plan in your dealership is sending a message right now. It is telling your team what you value, what you reward, and what success looks like. The question is whether that message is the one you actually intend to send – or whether your compensation structure is quietly driving behavior you never asked for.


    In this episode, Jeff and Luke get into the pay plan conversation most dealers only have after something goes wrong. Jeff makes the case that an hourly employee's only incentive is to show up for the hours – and if that is all your pay plan rewards, that is exactly what you are going to get. The carrot is where they go. Every time. The best dealers design compensation around the behaviors that actually make the dealership successful – collections protecting cash flow, salespeople following up after hours, technicians catching problems before they become customer complaints – and they are not afraid to rework pay plans when the goalposts move, because in this business the goalposts are always moving. One of Jeff's favorite Charlie Munger lines frames the whole episode: show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome. Luke adds the layer most dealers overlook entirely – the non-monetary benefits that build loyalty and culture without showing up on a payroll register. Flexible schedules, paid training, a Friday off after a great month, public recognition in front of the team. Those things tell an employee they are more than a dollar sign – and they cost almost nothing compared to what turnover does.


    Your assignment this week: pull every pay plan in your dealership and ask two honest questions – am I rewarding the behaviors I actually want, and do my employees clearly understand how they are being paid? Confusion in a pay structure does not just create frustration – it makes people quit. Research what the local market is paying and make sure you are competitive without overextending. Identify at least one non-monetary benefit you can add that costs little but signals a lot. Then build a compensation structure that rewards your team, protects your dealership, and is sustainable enough to last – because rolling out a new pay plan that breaks your cash flow is a real outcome too.


    Review this week's Sunday newsletter at TheIndependentDealer.com for the full theme and exercises.


    Not subscribed yet? Sign up now.

    https://theindependentdealer.us19.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=603446580871d8522a454418d&id=50aae74348


    Let's build this together.


    #445 - I Lost My Mojo: A Dealer's Honest Take On a Brutal Year Aug 20, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Independent Dealer Podcast, Jeff Watson and Luke Godwin check back in with Nick Markosian of Markosian Auto — a multi-location buy here pay here operator, NIADA board member, and one of the most candid voices in the independent dealer space — for a wide-ranging conversation about what the last 18 months have actually looked like. Nick doesn't sugarcoat it. Lost his mojo. A three-year lawsuit draining resources. Closing a remote location. A portfolio that's been shrinking on purpose. And an honest take on what survival looks like in one of the toughest business cycles the industry has seen in years.

    What You'll Learn:

    -Why Nick is closing his Logan, Utah location — and the honest answer to what makes remote locations so hard to run when resources are already stretched thin

    -How a three-year lawsuit funded by private equity nearly derailed his business — and what every dealer needs to know about litigation being used as a weapon against small operators

    -Why Nick paid down seven million dollars in debt over the last two years instead of chasing growth — and why he thinks that discipline is exactly what will position him to win when the cycle turns

    -How Nick's collections manager built a door-knocking campaign and a late fee waiver text that pulled in thousands of dollars from 30-plus-day accounts — and what scrappy collections actually looks like at a portfolio under pressure

    -Why subprime lenders are buying as deep as ever despite rising delinquencies — and how that is pulling customers away from buy here pay here at a rate most dealers are not ready to admit

    -Why Nick believes AI is finally a legitimate lead management tool — and what he learned from a Copart AI phone call that changed the way he thinks about using it in collections and BDC

    -Why every independent dealer who plans to be in the industry five years from now needs to show up to the NIADA DC Policy Conference — and what it actually looks like when dealers walk into a senator's office and tell their story


    If you are a buy here pay here dealer going through a hard season right now — watching your portfolio shrink, questioning your decisions, wondering when the cycle turns — Nick's conversation is the most honest one you are going to find about what it looks like to weather it with your business and your sanity intact.


    Support the businesses that support the podcast:

    Buckeye Risk Services - Reinsurance and wealth strategies for independent dealers. https://theindependentdealer.com/buckeye


    Blytz - BHPH payment processing with fast funding and text-to-pay.

    https://theindependentdealer.com/blytzpay


    Ituran GPS - Asset protection and customer management for BHPH and retail dealers. https://theindependentdealer.com/ituran


    Follow & Connect:

    Website: www.theindependentdealer.com

    Facebook Group: @independentautogroup

    Luke Godwin: @lukegodwin

    Jeff Watson: /sendtojeffw

    Like, subscribe, and share this with a dealer who needs to hear it.


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