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    The Incubator

    A weekly discussion about new evidence in neonatal care and the fascinating individuals who make this progress possible. Hosted by Dr. Ben Courchia and Dr. Daphna Yasova Barbeau.

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    #406 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - Conducting family centered research in the private practice world (Dr. Kaashif Ahmad) Mar 05, 2026
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    Can groundbreaking neonatal research thrive outside of academic medicine? Live from the NEO Conference, Ben and Daphna sit down with Dr. Kaashif Ahmad, Vice President of Research at Pediatrix. Dr. Ahmad shatters the myth that community NICUs can't drive clinical science, discussing how everyday documentation in systems like Baby Steps quietly fuels hundreds of publications. He also unveils "The Parent Network," a revolutionary initiative designed to partner with family-led organizations from day one to establish comparative effectiveness trial priorities. Tune in to discover how private practice clinicians are successfully balancing bedside care with robust, meaningful research.

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    #405 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - How can direct networking redefine the neonatology job search? (Dr. Zubin Shah) Mar 04, 2026
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    How does individualized medicine shape both patient trust and neonatal careers? Live from the NEO Conference, Ben and Daphna catch up with Dr. Zubin Shah, Clinical Ambassador for Pediatrix. The team explores the power of tailoring bedside conversations to individual babies—whether discussing targeted hemodynamics or framing RSV prevention with nirsevimab—rather than relying solely on generalized trial data. Dr. Shah also sheds light on the evolving landscape of neonatal recruitment, emphasizing how peer mentorship and direct networking can help new physicians find practices that balance rigorous clinical care with research and quality improvement.

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    #404 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - What guides us when parents disagree on medical care? (Dr. Mark Mercurio) Mar 04, 2026
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    When parents fundamentally disagree on life-saving interventions in the delivery room, how do clinical teams decide the next step? Live from the NEO Conference, Ben and Daphna sit down with Dr. Mark Mercurio, Executive Director of the new Center for Pediatric Bioethics at Boston Children’s Hospital. Dr. Mercurio dissects a highly complex ethical case regarding parental disagreement over resuscitation at the border of viability. Emphasizing the distinction between parental "preference" and parental "judgment," he explores the necessity of clinical humility, the hidden margins of error in gestational age dating, and how admitting our own medical uncertainty is the first step toward honest family counseling.

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    #403 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - What defines high quality evidence in modern neonatal care (Dr. Wally Carlo) Mar 03, 2026
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    Join Ben and Daphna live from the NEO Conference as they welcome the 2026 Legends in Neonatology Award recipient, Dr. Waldemar "Wally" Carlo. In this inspiring conversation, Dr. Carlo discusses the driving forces behind his enduring passion for clinical care and the critical need for robust bedside research. They explore how full-time clinicians can actively shape the research agenda by turning everyday diagnostic uncertainties into innovative trials. Dr. Carlo also offers a preview of his highly anticipated lecture on neonatal oxygen targets, revealing why it remains one of the most rigorously studied—yet complex—areas in modern medicine.

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    #402 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - Is fresh milk the key to improving long term neonatal outcomes Mar 03, 2026
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    Does our fear of necrotizing enterocolitis do more harm than good? In this live episode from the Neo conference, Ben and Daphna sit down with Dr. Ariel Salas to challenge the "culture of fear" surrounding neonatal nutrition. Dr. Salas argues that while we obsess over ill-defined NEC risks, we may be sacrificing the proven benefits of early feeding on sepsis reduction. From the emotional weight of "wasted" breast milk to the "illusion of control" provided by strict protocols, this conversation urges neonatologists to move toward a family-centered, evidence-based approach that prioritizes human milk over clinical hesitation.

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    #401 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - What are the best entry points for starting a POCUS program in your unit? Mar 02, 2026
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    Live from the Neo Conference in Las Vegas, Ben and Daphna sit down with Dr. Zach Anderson from Winnie Palmer Hospital to demystify the integration of Point of Care Ultrasound (POCUS) in the NICU. Moving beyond the intimidation of complex cardiac scans, Zach explains why starting with "pinch points" like vascular access or bladder volume can revolutionize bedside decision-making. From the SAFER protocol to managing the agitated infant on ECMO, this episode explores how POCUS serves as a powerful problem-solving tool that bridges the gap between clinical mystery and immediate intervention.

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    #400 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - What Are the Unintended Consequences of Ignoring a PDA Mar 02, 2026
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    In this live episode from the Neo Conference in Las Vegas, we welcome back Dr. Souvik Mitra to unpack the evolving landscape of PDA management in extremely preterm infants. We dive into the recent AAP guidelines recommending against early medical treatment and explore potential unintended consequences, including rising transcatheter closure rates and delayed intervention. Dr. Mitra shares his institution's approach using the SMART-PDA criteria, highlighting the importance of treatment timing and proper patient selection. Join us for a nuanced discussion balancing large pragmatic trial data with bedside clinical judgment for our most vulnerable babies.


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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    #400 - 🔵 [NEO CONFERENCE] - What Are the Unintended Consequences of Ignoring a PDA Mar 02, 2026
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    In this live episode from the Neo Conference in Las Vegas, we welcome back Dr. Souvik Mitra to unpack the evolving landscape of PDA management in extremely preterm infants. We dive into the recent AAP guidelines recommending against early medical treatment and explore potential unintended consequences, including rising transcatheter closure rates and delayed intervention. Dr. Mitra shares his institution's approach using the SMART-PDA criteria, highlighting the importance of treatment timing and proper patient selection. Join us for a nuanced discussion balancing large pragmatic trial data with bedside clinical judgment for our most vulnerable babies.

    Support the show

    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: nicupodcast@gmail.com. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    #399 - 📑 Journal Club - The Complete Episode from February 28th 2026 Feb 28, 2026
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    In this week’s journal club episodes, we review several interesting and important studies in neonatal medicine. Ben and Daphna start with a provocative echocardiography study out of Edmonton showing that standard chest compressions in newborns likely target the right heart and great vessels, not the left ventricle. A small sample size, but a finding that anyone who ultrasounds hearts all day will instantly recognize.

    Daphna presents a retrospective multicenter study from Nationwide Children’s on antibiotic duration for Gram-negative bloodstream infections in the NICU. Short course (≤8 days) showed no treatment failures, while 14% of infants in the long duration group developed a multi-drug resistant organism infection. Eight days versus ten: does the difference matter? The data says yes.

    Ben reviews a randomized controlled trial from UAB on early vitamin D supplementation in extremely preterm infants fed human milk. Eight hundred units daily for the first two weeks appears safe and effective at achieving vitamin D sufficiency, but did it move the needle on BPD? And is that even the right question to ask?

    Daphna brings a QI paper from Levine Children’s on universal social determinants of health screening across nine pediatric divisions, achieving 92% compliance and connecting thousands of families to resources through findhelp.org. A reminder that the tools are already there – we just have to use them.

    The episode wraps with Ben, Daphna, and Eli discussing Colorado’s landmark paid NICU leave law – the first in the nation to require employers to provide up to 12 weeks of paid leave for parents with a baby in the NICU. What does the evidence say, and how do we advocate for this in our own states?
    Science, equity, and advocacy – all in one episode.


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    #399 - [Neo News] - 📌 Paid NICU Leave: A New Standard for Family Support? Feb 27, 2026
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    In this episode of Neo News, we break down Colorado’s groundbreaking legislation mandating 12 weeks of paid leave for NICU parents—a potential blueprint for national change. We explore the critical intersection of policy, economics, and infant health, discussing why supporting families at the bedside isn't just morally right but economically smart. We also highlight new research from economists like Maya Rossin-Slater and Mariam Khan linking paid leave to reduced neonatal mortality. Plus, find out how you can turn these policy shifts into advocacy tools for your own state. Join us for a concise, high-impact update on the future of NICU care.

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    Boese, L. (2024, December 18).Why Colorado’s paid NICU leave law could spark nationwide trend. HR Executive. **https://hrexecutive.com/why-colorados-paid-nicu-leave-law-could-spark-nationwide-trend/**

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