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    The Humans vs Retirement Podcast

    Humans vs Retirement is the podcast that proves retirement isn’t just about money, it’s about life. Hosted by me Dan Haylett, I dive into the real, human side of retirement: the emotions, the mindset shifts, and the messy, wonderful journey of reinventing yourself for the next chapter. Through honest conversations with experts and inspiring stories from retirees themselves, you’ll get the tools, ideas, and encouragement you need to retire to something, not just from something.

    If you want to make your second half even better than your first, hit subscribe and join the Humans vs Retirement community.

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    S6 Ep 91 - The Skill No One Taught You - Spending Money! Oct 01, 2025
    Show notes

    You've worked hard. Saved smart. Invested wisely. You've built a life where money is no longer the problem. But here's the awkward truth: spending it freely, without guilt, hesitation, or second-guessing, is the part no one prepared you for.

    In this episode, I unpack why so many retirees struggle to permit themselves to spend, where that scarcity mindset comes from, and how to start using money to create joy, connection, and memory dividends. Saving was your superpower. Spending is your next skill.

    What You'll Learn
    • Why spending in retirement isn't a maths problem, it's a psychological one

    • The "permission gap" and why most retirees hesitate to enjoy what they've saved

    • How money guilt shows up (and why you're not alone in feeling it)

    • The hidden costs of under-spending... memories, experiences, and lost joy

    • What "good spending" really looks like: values, memory dividends, and well-being

    • Practical tools, from guardrails to pre-spending permission slips, to help you spend with confidence

    Challenge of the Week

    πŸ‘‰ Plan one guilt-free spend, and do it.

    • Not research it.

    • Not think about it.

    • Not ask five friends if it's sensible.

    Just spend. Choose something that creates a memory, feels indulgent, and is true to you. Then, when that little voice says, "Should I really?" β€” answer, "Yes. Future Me will thank me."

    Resources & Mentions
    • Schroders UK Retirement Study (2022): On retirees struggling to spend freely

    • Bill Perkins, Die With Zero β€” The principle of converting money into meaningful life experiences

    • Retirement planning tools like Guardrails, Bucket Planning, and Spending Statements

    Next Episode

    Coming up in Episode 6: Retirement Income Isn't About Products β€” It's About Permission We'll explore why true confidence to spend comes from psychology, not portfolio returns, and how your retirement income strategy should feel like freedom, not fear.


    S6 Ep 90 - Time Isn't What You Think It Is Sep 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Retirement isn't about how much time you have; it's about how much time you feel. In this episode, I dive into one of the most misunderstood aspects of life after work: time perception. From brain science to everyday challenges, I uncover why retirement can sometimes feel like a blur and how you can make the most of your time, stretch it, and truly enrich it.

    What You'll Learn
    • Why your brain experiences time differently once work ends

    • The science of time compression (and why some days vanish while others feel full)

    • How "Memory Dividends" can transform your retirement years

    • The three biggest retirement time traps, and how to avoid them

    • Why time isn't linear but psychological, and how that changes everything

    • How to redefine what "a good use of time" really means in retirement

    Challenge of the Week

    πŸ‘‰ Design your Ideal Day

    • Grab a notepad (or open Notes on your phone)

    • Write out your perfect Tuesday in retirement: when you wake, who you're with, what you do, what you eat, where you are

    • Then bring one small part of that ideal day into your life this week

    Resources & Mentions
    • Dr. David Eagleman – Neuroscientist and author on time perception

    • Bill Perkins, Die With Zero – Explore the idea of "Memory Dividends"

    • Previous episodes of Humans vs Retirement on purpose, identity, and designing life after work

    Next Episode

    Stay tuned for Episode 5: The Skill No One Taught You β€” Spending Money.

    I'll explore why retirees struggle to permit themselves to spend, how scarcity creeps in even when you have "enough," and what it takes to break free and truly enjoy your wealth.


    S6 Ep 89 -The Five Pillars of Retirement Well-Being Sep 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Most people retire with a solid income plan but no plan for a life they actually want to live. In this episode, I discuss the five human pillars that make retirement feel meaningful, not just financially viable: Purpose, Identity, Relationships, Structure, and Well-being. Expect punchy stories, research-backed insights, and practical prompts to start building a life worth funding.

    What you'll learn
    • Why money β‰  meaning in retirement, and how outcomes beat incomes.

    • The Five Pillars framework (Purpose, Identity, Relationships, Structure, Well-being) and how each one stabilises your next chapter.

    • The hidden risk of identity loss after the job title disappears, and two better questions to ask yourself now.

    • Why too much unstructured time can feel like freedom that turns to fog, and simple ways to add rhythm without losing flexibility.

    • The science bits (in plain English):

      • Only 27% of retirees report feeling very fulfilled day-to-day (Stanford Center on Longevity).

      • A strong sense of purpose links to a 15% lower risk of death (JAMA Psychiatry).

      • The Harvard Adult Development Study shows close relationships are the biggest predictor of long-term happiness.

      • 1 in 4 experience mild to moderate depression post-retirementβ€”often due to lost meaning, routine, and social contact (NHS).

    Challenge of the Week

    Score yourself 1–10 on each pillar: Purpose, Identity, Relationships, Structure, Well-being. Pick the lowest score and do one tiny action this week to move it up by one point (e.g., book coffee with a friend, start a 15-minute morning walk, schedule a creative hour, message someone to mentor). Small moves β†’ big momentum.

    Resources & links

    Mentioned research (as cited in the episode):

    • Stanford Center on Longevity β€” fulfilment in retirement

    • JAMA Psychiatry (2020) β€” purpose & mortality risk

    • Harvard Study of Adult Development β€” relationships & happiness

    • NHS guidance/statistics β€” mental health in later life

    • Want more? Connect with me on LinkedIn and share your Challenge of the Week answers.

    • Buy my book The Retirement You Didn't See Coming

    • Book a time for us to chat about your retirement plans

    Next episode

    "The Skill No One Taught You: Spending Money." We'll get into guilt, scarcity, freedom, joy, and why many retirees have more than enough yet still struggle to spend with confidence.


    S6 Ep 88 - The Past Built You. Your Future Needs You! Sep 10, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Humans vs. Retirement Podcast, I delve into one of the most disorienting aspects of life after work: identity.

    For decades, we've answered the question "Who are you?" with a job title. Director. Manager. Teacher. Lawyer. And then retirement hits β€” and suddenly, the title is gone. What's left is often a quiet identity crisis no one warned us about.

    This episode, The Past Built You. Your Future Needs You explores why losing a role feels like losing yourself and how to begin rebuilding an identity that's deeper, freer, and far more authentic than anything you had before.

    What You'll Learn in This Episode
    • Why so many retirees experience role-based identity collapse.

    • The hidden danger of achievement addiction, and why productivity isn't the same as value.

    • How identity is not fixed, but a story you tell yourself (and why that's good news).

    • Three powerful shifts to rebuild identity in retirement:

      1. From Role β†’ Values

      2. From Productivity β†’ Contribution

      3. From Legacy β†’ Aliveness

    • Why staying stuck in nostalgia is one of the biggest risks in retirement.

    • How to introduce yourself without your past job title β€” and why this simple exercise is so transformative.

    Challenge of the Week

    πŸ‘‰ Introduce yourself without using your past job title.

    Try it out loud. Then create an "I am" list:

    • I am someone who makes people laugh.

    • I am someone who listens deeply.

    • I am someone who's figuring it out, and that's okay.

    This is how identity is rebuilt: one sentence at a time.

    Resources & Links

    πŸ“– Dr. Bruce Feiler β€” Life Is in the Transitions (on identity as fluid, not fixed).

    πŸ“š Research: Journal of Gerontological Psychology (2021) β€” 50% of retirees feel identity loss within the first 12 months.

    πŸ‘‰ Share your "I am" list with me on LinkedIn or in your journal, whichever feels right.

    πŸ‘‰ Want more? Connect with me on LinkedIn and share your Challenge of the Week answers.

    πŸ‘‰ Buy my book The Retirement You Didn't See Coming

    πŸ‘‰ Book a time for us to chat about your retirement plans

    Next Episode

    Up next: The Five Pillars of Retirement Well-Being (That No One Told You About) β€” unpacking purpose, identity, relationships, structure, and well-being, and why most people accidentally neglect all five after they retire.


    S6 Ep 87 - Retirement Isn't The Goal, It's The Starting Line Sep 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome back to Humans vs Retirement! Season 6 kicks off with something brand new β€” no guests, no panels, just me, the mic, and the unfiltered truth about retirement.

    In this episode, I tackle one of the biggest myths of all: that retirement is the finish line. Spoiler alert β€” it's not. Retirement is the starting line of an entirely new chapter, and one that comes with as many emotional and psychological hurdles as financial ones.

    From the collapse of structure and identity, to the massive gap between our healthspan and lifespan, I explore why retirement isn't about winding down β€” it's about gearing up for your next act.

    You'll also get this week's Challenge of the Week: a practical exercise to help you shift from "retiring from" to "retiring to."

    What You'll Learn in This Episode
    • Why the glossy brochure version of retirement is a dangerous myth.

    • The difference between lifespan and healthspan β€” and why it matters more than you think.

    • How retirement strips away routine, identity, and purpose (and why no one warns you about it).

    • The 4 phases of retirement (and why most people get stuck in the messy middle).

    • The most important question you can ask yourself before β€” and after β€” retiring.

    • A powerful reframe: retirement as a threshold, launchpad, and second mountain.

    • This week's Challenge of the Week: Write your new job description as CEO of Your Own Life.

    Resources & Links

    πŸ“š Dr. Riley Moynes β€” The 4 Phases of Retirement (featured in Episode 78).

    πŸ’‘ Bill Perkins (2020) β€” Die With Zero (on memory dividends).

    πŸ‘‰ Want more? Connect with me on LinkedIn and share your Challenge of the Week answers.

    πŸ‘‰ Buy my book The Retirement You Didn't See Coming

    πŸ‘‰ Book a time for us to chat about your retirement plans

    Next Episode

    Up next: Past Built You. Future Needs You β€” exploring identity collapse in retirement and how to rebuild a stronger, truer self without your job title.


    Ep 86 - Living Between Chapters with Toni Petrillo Jul 22, 2025
    Show notes

    In this deeply insightful and refreshingly honest conversation, I sit down with retirement coach and former financial services executive Toni Petrillo, founder of Retire with Intention. We explore the emotional complexities and personal transformations that often define life after full-time work, diving into the hidden challenges retirees face, particularly around identity, relationships, and what Toni calls the "messy middle." From evolving partnership dynamics to redefining self-worth and navigating the in-between, this episode offers both practical wisdom and warm reassurance for anyone feeling unsettled in retirement.

    What You'll Learn
    • Why a solid financial plan isn't enough, and what you need instead

    • The concept of "retiring with intention" and how to do it well

    • How relationship dynamics shift after work ends (and how to prepare)

    • The danger of rushing through retirement's "messy middle"

    • Tools and exercises to rediscover identity, purpose, and self

    • Why curiosity and honest self-reflection are underrated retirement superpowers

    • The real reason so many retirees feel lost, even when everything looks great on paper

    Key Topics
    • Toni's journey from financial executive to retirement coach

    • Letting go of your business card and your professional identity

    • The new relationship rules for life post-career

    • Setting boundaries with adult children and grandchildren

    • Rebuilding your relationship with yourself in retirement

    • Understanding and embracing the "messy middle" of post-work life

    • Designing a retirement based on your individual AND shared vision

    • The power of pausing, experimenting, and reflecting

    • The underestimated emotional labour of retiring

    • Why permission, especially to feel, pause, and evolve, is everything

    Resources & Mentions
    • Retire with Intention β€” Toni Petrillo's coaching practice

    • Harvard Online Course: Managing Happiness (mentioned by Toni)

    • Statistics on Grey Divorce in the UK

    Stay Connected

    Want more thought-provoking conversations like this one?

    • Subscribe to Humans vs Retirement on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts
    • Visit humansvsretirement.com for tools, downloads, and insights

    • Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it; you might just save them (and their family) from future chaos.

    • Download for free my whitepaper - The Skill of Spending Money in Retirement
    • Connect with me on LinkedIn for more insights and updates.

    • Subscribe to my weekly newsletter - The Retirement Fix
    • Leave us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review if this episode helped shift your perspective! It helps spread the word.


    Ep 85 - Find Your Voice: Podcasting as Purpose with Matt Halloran Jul 11, 2025
    Show notes

    In this powerful and entertaining episode, I'm delighted to be joined by podcasting legend Matt Halloran, co-founder of ProudMouth. Together, we explore why podcasting isn't just a tool for business; it's a deeply human medium that offers purpose, connection, and even legacy in retirement.

    Whether you're a financial planner looking to build trust with your audience or you're approaching retirement and searching for a creative outlet to share your story, this episode is packed with insight, humour, and encouragement. From storytelling to encore careers, legacy creation to building an ecosystem around your voice, this one goes beyond the mic.

    What You'll Learn
    • Why podcasting is the perfect pursuit for your second half of life

    • How telling your story can create a real connection and leave a lasting legacy

    • The simple tools and mindset needed to launch a podcast, even in retirement

    • How podcasting can transform how financial advisers build trust and attract clients

    • Why "giving away your wisdom" isn't bad business, it's great business

    • The 4-part formula for powerful content: storytelling, education, entertainment, and call-to-action

    Key Topics Covered
    • My journey into podcasting and how Matt helped spark it

    • The evolution of podcasting: from radio tapes to legacy libraries

    • Podcasting as therapy, storytelling, and a vehicle for human connection

    • How retirees can use podcasting to reinvent themselves post-career

    • The magic of interviewing clients, friends, and family

    • Building a podcast around your encore career or consultancy

    • Using voice to build trust and deepen client relationships

    • Pitfalls to avoid when starting and how to play the long game

    • Why being proud of your voice is the first step to being heard

    Resources & Mentions
    • ProudMouth – Matt's podcasting and marketing company for financial professionals

    • The PodRocket Academy – Free courses to help you launch your podcast

    • Book: Influence by Dr. Robert Cialdini

    • Podcast: Ologies by Alie Ward (Matt's pick for top-tier podcast hosting)

    Stay Connected

    Want more thought-provoking conversations like this one?

    • Subscribe to Humans vs Retirement on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts
    • Visit humansvsretirement.com for tools, downloads, and insights

    • Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it; you might just save them (and their family) from future chaos.

    • Download for free my whitepaper - The Skill of Spending Money in Retirement
    • Connect with me on LinkedIn for more insights and updates.

    • Subscribe to my weekly newsletter - The Retirement Fix
    • Leave us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review if this episode helped shift your perspective! It helps spread the word.


    Ep 84 - Solving the Retirement Income Puzzle with Dr. Jeff Brown Jun 27, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, I had the privilege to sit down with world-renowned economist Dr. Jeff Brown to explore one of retirement's most misunderstood tools, annuities. But this isn't your typical dry financial chat.

    Together, we unpack why guaranteed income might be the key to unlocking joy, confidence, and peace of mind in retirement.

    With a perfect blend of behavioural science, practical wisdom, and a few sporting analogies thrown in for good measure, this conversation tackles the emotional and psychological dimensions of spending in retirement.

    If you've ever thought annuities were boring or unnecessary, this episode might just change your mind (and your future).

    What You'll Learn
    • Why most people don't buy annuities, and why that might be a huge mistake

    • The "under-annuitisation puzzle" and what it reveals about human behaviour

    • How guaranteed income permits retirees to spend with confidence

    • Why planning to "live to 90" is a dangerous oversimplification

    • The impact of cognitive decline on financial decision-making

    • How framing retirement as a complex human problem changes everything

    • Innovative policy ideas and product designs that could change the retirement game

    Key Topics
    • Lifetime income vs lump sum: the psychology behind the choice

    • Framing effects: how a few words can change your retirement plan

    • Complexity theory in financial planning

    • The power of defaults and nudges in retirement decisions

    • Emotional burden of wealth vs income in later life

    • The link between guaranteed income and happiness in retirement

    • The decline of cognitive ability and how annuities can provide protection

    • The role of tech and AI in the future of retirement advice

    Resources & Mentions
    • TIAA (Teachers Insurance and Annuity Association)

    • License to Spend white paper – Blanchett, Finke

    • Health and Retirement Study (HRS), US

    • From Strength to Strength by Arthur C. Brooks

    • The End of History Illusion – Gilbert, Wilson, & others

    Stay Connected

    Want more thought-provoking conversations like this one?

    • Subscribe to Humans vs Retirement on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts
    • Visit humansvsretirement.com for tools, downloads, and insights

    • Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it; you might just save them (and their family) from future chaos.

    • Download for free my whitepaper - The Skill of Spending Money in Retirement
    • Connect with me on LinkedIn for more insights and updates.

    • Subscribe to my weekly newsletter - The Retirement Fix
    • Leave us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review if this episode helped shift your perspective! It helps spread the word.


    Ep 83 - The 7 Pillars of Aging Responsibly with Tony Taylor Jun 18, 2025
    Show notes

    In this energising and heartfelt episode, I'm joined by Tony Taylor, a retired entrepreneur turned healthy ageing coach, functional medicine practitioner, and the creator of the 7 Pillars of Ageing Responsibly. After facing the retirement cliff edge head-on, Tony rebuilt his life with purpose, resilience, and a relentless curiosity. Together, we explore what it really means to age well in today's world, beyond the money talk and the small, intentional choices that lead to a longer, stronger, more connected life.

    What You'll Learn:
    • Why retirement often starts with confusion, not celebration

    • How to build your own "power hour" to set up each day with intention

    • The vital difference between lifespan and healthspan

    • How to avoid the three silent killers of retirement: complacency, disconnection, and loss of purpose

    • Why strength training, sleep, and curiosity may be more important than your pension pot

    • The overlooked power of cross-generational relationships

    • What resilience really means, and how to build it at any age

    Key Topics Covered:
    • Tony's personal story: from business owner to active ageing advocate

    • The cliff-edge effect of retirement and how to navigate it

    • The 7 Pillars of Ageing Responsibly:

      1. Sleep

      2. Resilience

      3. Purpose

      4. Complacency

      5. Strength

      6. Curiosity

      7. Connection

    • How to rethink your day-to-day structure in retirement

    • Why men need to do a better job of building social connections

    • Cold showers, olive oil, and "shopping bag carries" as unlikely tools for longevity

    • Why mindset is the ultimate muscle to train

    Resources & Mentions:
    • Tony's blog: Aging Responsibly

    • Book: The Sleep Book by Dr. Guy Meadows

    • Mentioned: Eckhart Tolle – The Power of Now

    Stay Connected:

    Want more thought-provoking conversations like this one?

    • Subscribe to Humans vs Retirement on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts
    • Visit humansvsretirement.com for tools, downloads, and insights

    • Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it, you might just save them (and their family) from future chaos.

    • Download for free my whitepaper - The Skill of Spending Money in Retirement
    • Connect with me on LinkedIn for more insights and updates.

    • Subscribe to my weekly newsletter - The Retirement Fix
    • Leave us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review if this episode helped shift your perspective! It really helps spread the word.


    Ep 82 - Why You Should Write a Book in Retirement with Helen Wilkie Jun 06, 2025
    Show notes

    In this inspiring and thought-provoking episode of Humans vs Retirement, I sit down with The Executive Book Coach, Helen Wilkie to explore why retirement may be the ideal moment to write the book you've always dreamed of. From memoirs to how-to guides, legacy to creativity, Helen shares practical insights and soulful encouragement for anyone curious about turning lived experience into lasting written impact. Whether you're scribbling down notes already or just entertaining the idea, this episode is for you.

    What You'll Learn

    • Why retirement can be the most powerful time to write a book

    • The difference between a book being your legacy vs holding your legacy

    • How the writing process helps you rediscover purpose, identity, and structure

    • The most common obstacles that stop people from starting and how to overcome them

    • The importance of editing, time-blocking, and defining your "why" before writing

    • How ghostwriting and book coaching work (and why it's not cheating)

    Key Topics

    • Creativity in the second half of life

    • How to write a book after retirement

    • Purpose and identity beyond work

    • Memoirs, business books, and other nonfiction options

    • Fear, self-doubt, and imposter syndrome

    • Writing as an experience, not a task

    • Turning vague ideas into a finished manuscript

    • Legacy, storytelling, and honouring your life

    Resources & Mentions

    • Helen Wilkie's free gift: How to Write a Memoir PDF and 20-minute exploratory session Email Helen at: helen@theexecutivesbookcoach.com with subject line: "Memoir Guide"

    • Helen's memoir: Rare Steak, Red Wine, Hot Tango

    • Recommended reading: On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft by Stephen King

    • Learn more about Helen: https://theexecutivesbookcoach.com

    Stay Connected

    Want more thought-provoking conversations like this one?

    • Subscribe to Humans vs Retirement on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts
    • Visit humansvsretirement.com for tools, downloads, and insights

    • Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it, you might just save them (and their family) from future chaos.

    • Download for free my whitepaper - The Skill of Spending Money in Retirement
    • Connect with me on LinkedIn for more insights and updates.

    • Subscribe to my weekly newsletter - The Retirement Fix
    • Leave us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review if this episode helped shift your perspective! It really helps spread the word.


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