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    The High Flyers Podcast with Vidit Agarwal

    Founded 6.5+ years ago by Vidit Agarwal, The High Flyers Podcast is a global top ranked show exploring the personal and professional journeys behind the most relatable role models shaping our world.

    Enjoy 275+ in-depth (and often rare) conversations with the world’s most influential and relatable role models in business, tech, finance, government and sport — going beyond the headlines to explore their life and work including their formative years, inflection points, industry insights, and how they think, lead and build.

    Episodes are listened to by CEOs, C-Suite Executives, Investors, Founders, and Government Leaders across Australia, USA, India, UK, Singapore, Canada and New Zealand.

    Alongside the podcast, we host an annual High Flyers Growth Summit in Sydney and San Francisco.

    This podcast is one of five products under our parent company, Curiosity Centre.

    We’re proud that more than 60% of our 275+ guests have trusted us for their first-ever public interview — or to go in-depth on their personal story for the first time. These include:

    Malcolm Turnbull (Prime Minister of Australia), Jason Collins (CEO, BlackRock, Asia Pacific), Brad Banducci (CEO, Woolworths), Keith Rabois (MD, Khosla Ventures), Michael Schneider (CEO, Bunnings), Elena Verna (Head of Growth, Lovable), David Haber (a16z Partner), David Schneider (Growth Fund Co-Lead Partner, Cotaue), Vandita Pant (CFO, BHP), Jodie Auster (Uber’s Global Head of Travel), Shiv Rao (CEO, Abridge), Ryan Beiermeister (Partner, Founders Fund), Jesse Zhag (CEO, Decagon), Rob Giglio (CCO, Canva), Gautam Chari (Head of Capital Commitments, Bank of America), Mel Silva (Managing Director, Google), Jean-Michel Limieux (CTO, Shopify and Atlassian), David Eckstein (CFO, Legora), Stevie Case (CRO, Vanta), John Haddock (CBO, Harvey), Mark Suster (Partner, Upfront Ventures), Niki Scevak (Partner, Blackbird), Craig Tiley (CEO, USA Tennis), Jeanne DeWitt Grosser (COO, Vercel), Paul Bassat (Partner, Square Peg), Bowen Pan (Creator, Facebook Marketplace), Sam Sicilia (CIO, Hostplus), Jack Zhang (CEO, Airwallex), Tim Doyle (CEO, Eucalyptus), Sukhinder Singh Cassidy (CEO, Xero), Sanjeev Gandhi (CEO, Orica), Philip Green (Australia’s Ambassador to India), Vivek Bhatia (CEO, MUFG), Cristina Cordova (COO, Linear) and more.

    Engage with us via:

    Email: contact@curiositycentre.com

    Website: https://highflyerspodcast.com

    X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/vidags10

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thehighflyers

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    Latest Episodes:
    Part 3 of #3 series: Unpack DAO Under, how web3 is bringing a new spin to community across Asia Pacific w Abhi Maran + Ange Ching Jun 03, 2022
    Show notes

    This 3 part series is brought to you by Minke, wave hello to better savings.

    Explore your curiosity w Abhi Maran & Angela Ching, about the ABC’s of what a DAO is , how you can be involved in this new spin on a community of builders across the Asia pacific region and some special announcements they have coming up

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    Find out more about Curiosity Center, including 80+ episodes at www.curiositycenter.xyz

    Download the Minke app to earn high interest rates at https://www.minke.app/

    Get involved with DAO Under at www.twitter.com/@dao_under

    Share your feedback and discuss sponsorship opportunities with us by emailing vidit@curiositycenter.xyz

    Follow the show on Linkedin / Instagram

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:35 - How did Abhi get involved with DAOs (Decentralised autonomous organisations)

    04:21 - When did Ange first come across DAOs

    05:23 - Why was DAO Under created?

    10:23 - How Ange brings design value to the group

    13:25 - How have they structured the DAO and design process?

    15:24 - Why do you need a DAO to build a community?

    17:23 - What are pods?

    20:24 - How does a DAO generate revenue and sustain itself?

    23:10 - Do you need a DeFi account to interact with a DAO?

    24:43 - What separates great from good DAOs?

    28:01 - Unknowns about DAO’s

    29:47 - Are there regulations to be aware of?

    30:30 - Roadmap ahead with exciting launches

    33:11 - What’s been your biggest learning building this?


    Alan Jones: Dreamer parents, birth of the internet + being 2nd employee for Yahoo, founder coaching advice & scaling M8 ventures May 30, 2022
    Show notes

    Thank you for rating / reviewing this podcast on iTunes and Spotify, it helps others find us and convince guests to come on the show!

    Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn or Twitter

    Email Vidit directly at vidit@curiositycenter.xyz to discuss sponsorship opportunities, recommend future guests and share feedback.

    ***

    Welcome to episode #84 w Alan Jones! Here are 5 key takeaways you will learn from this episode:

    1. Influences of growing up with dreamer parents and living in 28 houses before age 17

    2. Two biggest learnings being a journalist

    3. Reflections on being the 2nd employee at Yahoo and employee share plans

    4. What do the best founders do when speaking to investors?

    5. Five people in the startup ecosystem he's learnt from the most

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    03:13 - Where were you born and live now?

    03:53 - What was your first job and what do you do now?

    05:17 - Why the unsung hero co-founder of Canva is the most talent technologist in ANZ

    06:48 - Influenced by “dreamer” parents and learning what entrepreneur meant

    10:31 - Learning from mum and her perseverance

    11:25 - Trying journalism, programming and medical paths as career paths

    15:07 - The power of building your brand recognition and reputation

    20:45 - Painful learning investing in hardware

    24:55 - Being the 2nd employee at Yahoo and stock ownership learnings

    32:12 - Nurturing up and coming investors

    37:20 - What are founders not doing to stand out to investors?

    42:41 - Creating your learning room of 5 operators, founders and investors

    49:00 - How he’s raising a pre-seed fund in M8 ventures

    55:33 - Do you feel successful?

    57:35 - Best investment

    1:00:23 - Appearing on the 20VC podcast


    Part 2 of #3 series: Inside the future of decentralised finance w Josh Reyes, co-founder @ Minke May 26, 2022
    Show notes

    This 3 part series is brought to you by Minke, wave hello to better savings.

    Explore your curiosity w Josh Reyes, co-founder of Minke, the future of decentralised finance, how they’re offering safe and efficient yields to combat inflation and building the transparent consumer platform. Encourage you to download their app from the Apple App Store today.

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    Find out more about Curiosity Center, including 80+ episodes at www.curiositycenter.xyz

    Download the Minke app to earn high interest rates at https://www.minke.app/

    Share your feedback and discuss sponsorship opportunities with us by emailing vidit@curiositycenter.xyz

    Follow the show on Linkedin / Instagram

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:12 - Josh’s journey into crypto

    04:23 - What is Minke?

    05:32 - What is DeFi and difference vs traditional banking

    06:52 - How to open a Minke account to deposit your savings

    09:02 - How does DeFi have attractive interest rates?

    10:58 - Flexibility with money deposited in savings account

    11:58 - What is Stablecoin?

    15:19 - How do central banks impact Minke?

    16:33 - Building trust with consumers

    18:01 - Operating in high inflation markets

    21:43 - Sharia finance in islamic countries

    23:46 - Low trust vs high trust markets

    27:03 - Breaking down the recent LUNA crash

    33:10 - How to evaluate whether to deposit money into DeFi


    Part 1 of #3 series: Inside NFTs, how cute pics took over the world w String Nguyen, co-founder @ Chubbiverse May 24, 2022
    Show notes

    This 3 part series is brought to you by Minke, wave hello to better savings.

    Explore your curiosity w String Nguyen, the co-founder of Chubbiverse, a fast growing NFT brand! Learn about the A-Z to help you build your knowledge of this exciting space.

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    Find out more about Curiosity Center, including 80+ episodes at www.curiositycenter.xyz

    Download the Minke app to earn high interest rates at https://www.minke.app/

    Find out more about the Chubbiverse at https://www.chubbiverse.com/

    Share your feedback and discuss sponsorship opportunities with us by emailing vidit@curiositycenter.xyz

    Follow the show on Linkedin / Instagram

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:18 - How did you get into NFTs and Web3?

    03:03 - Transition from consumer to builder creating Chubbiverse

    04:16 - Where do you start with creating a NFT?

    05:45 - How did you settled on Chubbiverse as your brand?

    07:30 - What makes NFT’s look the way they do, unpolished?

    09:31 - What is Product Market Fit in NFTs?

    11:31 - Supply and demand

    12:12 - How is an NFT priced?

    13:27 - Value in Bored Apes

    14:13 - How do NFT’s differentiate vs the marketplace?

    15:29 - Importance of influencers to generate discoverability?

    17:14 - Network effects and fear of missing out

    17:44 - Why are NFTs the entry point to web3?

    19:17 - How do you build a revenue model for an NFT?

    20:39 - Scalability goals

    21:47 - How do customers engage using Discord / Twitter?

    23:04 - Do you need a chubbiverse to enter Discord?

    23:34 - How to build education on ETH?

    24:26 - Managing spam and building trust

    26:06 - What news sources help with NFT knowledge?

    27:12 - How to build a career in NFTs, founder or operator?

    28:39 - DeFi supporting NFT’s and payments

    29:35 - Benefit of curiosity


    Investment memo: "Athletic Ventures", how elite professional athletes unlock value as investors May 18, 2022
    Show notes

    Explore your curiosity w Christie Jenkins + Josh Thomas about bout professional athlete transitions into the business world and how Christie, Josh and nearly a 100 of Australia’s best and brightest athletes across all sporting codes have created an investing syndicate in Athletic Ventures.

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    Find out more about Curiosity Center, including 80+ episodes at www.curiositycenter.xyz

    Find out more about the Athletic Ventures at www.athletic.vc

    Share your feedback and discuss sponsorship opportunities with us by emailing vidit@curiositycenter.xyz

    Follow the show on Linkedin / Instagram

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:09 - Josh’s career in the AFL

    03:13 - Christie’s career across 3 sports

    04:07 - Planning life after sport

    07:10 - Routines, habits and sprints

    11:45 - Would you do anything differently if you go back 5 years?

    14:31 - First interaction with startups and VC

    17:31 - Knowledge building into venture capital work

    20:52 - Coach, work ethic and people better than you

    22:24 - Early days of building Athletic Ventures

    24:47 - Biggest surprise

    25:48 - How does Athletic Ventures best serve founders

    28:26 - Long term excitement for Athletic Ventures

    29:18 - How should founders view athletic on their cap table

    31:39 - Most recent publicly announced deal and why

    34:12 - Industries athletic ventures can best help in

    36:28 - Key focus on Series A and why


    #80 Bill Bartee (Rare Public Interview): Growing up around NASA to Co-Founding Southern Cross, Blackbird & Main Sequence Ventures May 16, 2022
    Show notes

    Thank you for rating / reviewing this podcast on iTunes and Spotify, it helps others find us and convince guests to come on the show!

    Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn or Twitter

    Contact Vidit directly at vidit@curiositycenter.xyz to discuss sponsorship opportunities, recommend future guests and share feedback.

    ***

    Welcome to episode #80 w Bill Bartee! Here are 5 key takeaways you will learn from this episode:

    1. How growing up near a NASA facility started Bill's love for science, tech and engineering

    2. Reflections on working in Silicon Valley in the 80's seeing the early technology evolution

    3. What he learnt from his most painful learning and why one advice has stuck the most

    4. The 5 hall of fame Australian VC's Bill would love to be in a room with

    5. Why is deep tech innovation different and how does talent equate in Australia vs the USA

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    03:03 - Growing up seeing rocket launches

    03:40 - Papers, washing cars and labourer

    04:24 - Double nobel prize winner in Physics and Chemistry

    06:12 - Economically poor, intellectually rich

    08:01 - Aspirations to be an astronaut

    09:48 - Building information sources in the 1960/70’s

    11:07 - 25 year love for Australia

    12:45 - Working across the spectrum: large, medium and early companies

    15:13 - Evolution in rate of learning

    17:54 - what makes people succeed

    21:08 - 99% of learnings coming from failing

    23:36 - Not judging a book by it’s cover

    26:39 - Applying mathematics love to startup investing

    30:32 - Venture Capital today vs the early 2000’s

    35:02 - Co-founding 3 x VC firms

    38:12 - top 5 hall of fame investors

    41:10 - founders from 2000’s that impressed the most

    43:47 - metrics in sass vs deep tech

    48:23 - How do investors help deep tech founders?

    50:54 - Most challenging mental models

    52:43 - Talent equation in deep tech: Australia vs USA

    54:26 - final sprint


    Investment memo: "Journalist at the Financial Review", how news operates May 12, 2022
    Show notes

    Explore your curiosity w Yolanda Redrup about media, journalism and how news operates in startups, technology and capital markets.

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    Find out more about Curiosity Center, including 75+ episodes at www.curiositycenter.xyz

    Find out more about the Australian Financial Review at www.afr.com

    Share your feedback and discuss partnership opportunities with us by emailing vidit@curiositycenter.xyz

    Follow the show on Linkedin / Instagram

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:00 - Melbourne and swimming

    02:32 - Being set on journalism from age 13

    04:15 - How you can build your career in journalism

    06:09 - Behind the scenes of how an article comes together

    09:27 - Inbound, Outbound and reactive news sources

    10:46 - Does the first sentence need to be a hook?

    13:08 - How much editorial approval does a journalist need?

    14:36 - what software is useful for interviews and writing articles?

    15:52 - How does street talk differ from tech news?

    17:30 - What is the biggest unknown about your role?

    19:06 - How to invest and nurture relationships?

    20:50 - Being a journalist with an investor approach

    21:34 - How do VC’s get their capital raise featured in the AFR?

    23:50 - Biggest change having covered tech for 10+ years?

    27:44 - How do you keep up your learning of media landscape?

    29:15 - What separates a great journalist from the rest?

    30:09 - How to decide what news platforms to read?

    31:36 - The role of independence in journalism and being neutral?

    33:30 - One thing you’d like to learn in the next 6 months?


    Matt Allen: Sydney's western suburbs upbringing, how revenue based financing works, 3 use cases & differences vs VC + hall of fame investors! May 09, 2022
    Show notes

    Thank you for rating / reviewing this podcast on iTunes and Spotify, it helps others find us and convince guests to come on the show!

    Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn or Twitter

    Contact Vidit directly at vidit@curiositycenter.xyz to discuss sponsorship opportunities, recommend future guests and share feedback.

    ***

    Welcome to episode #78 w Matt Allen! Here are 5 key takeaways you will learn from this episode:

    1. How Matt found his passion for music and computers in high school

    2. Why success at age 20 was building out his first startup, providing web based solutions for insurance companies

    3. Balancing a conservative approach to finance with investing in high growth (and high risk) startups

    4. What is venture debt, how it's structured and when should founders consider it

    5. The five active hall of fame investors in Australia / New Zealand to be in a room with

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:28 - Birth place and residence now

    03:16 - First job and various roles now

    04:07 - High Flyers under the radar

    05:08 - eldest of 3 brothers and attending agricultural school

    08:24 - Computer teacher being an influence

    09:37 - Infamous blue hat

    10:25 - Early days of the internet: building web based solutions for insurance companies

    11:25 - Biggest unknown for startups in the 90’s

    14:03 - Balancing financial conservative approach with investing in high risk startups

    16:10 - Most painful learning

    17:43 - First time into angel investing

    21:30 - Process for getting to know founder / business from scratch

    24:33 - Meeting thousands of founders at Amazon startups

    28:02 - 5 people to have in the “active hall of fame investors” room

    30:24 - Decided to be a founder again with Tractor Ventures

    36:04 - Financial structure within Venture Debt model

    38:23 - 3 use cases for a founder to consider revenue based financing

    41:10 - Supporting the longevity of a company

    43:42 - Building education in community about finance and debt

    46:56 - Matt’s routines to balance his various roles

    49:09 - Building and maintaining reputation

    52:07 - How Matt got started making websites for bands

    54:02 - final sprint


    Rachael Neumann: Being a social chameleon growing up in New York, medicine morphing into business, building the live event online ticketing biz in Australia, investing in the next tech startup May 04, 2022
    Show notes

    Thank you for rating / reviewing this podcast on iTunes and Spotify, as it helps others find us and convince guests to come on the show and grow the show with sponsors and partners.

    Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn or Twitter for more!

    Contact Vidit directly at vidit@curiositycenter.xyz to discuss sponsorship opportunities, recommend future guests and share feedback.

    ***

    Learn about Rachael’s sunrise in New York, with her dad being the son of jewish immigrants and mum from a rural part of New York with 8 brothers and sisters with Rachael's mum being the eldest.

    Welcome to episode #77 w Rachael Neumann! Here are 5 key takeaways you will learn from this episode:

    1. Influences of growing up in New York with two sides of the family, with her parents bringing different perspectives

    2. Navigating her career having varied interests and taking the the entrance exams to law, business & medical school

    3. Why the transition from the US to Australia was hard personally and professionally

    4. 2 big learnings from leading eventbrite and Amazon startups teams

    5. Process to get to know founders from scratch to consider investing in, how to say no with empathy and valuations vs hype

    Please enjoy!

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:25 - New York and Melbourne

    04:00 - Re-imagining a high flyer

    06:00 - Being a social chameleon navigating the two sides of her family

    08:33 - Wanting to leave New York City

    11:33 - Heroes in Nobel Prize Winners

    13:30 - Success at 20

    15:35 - Painful learning from having varied interests

    22:04 - Moving to Australia by accident

    25:25 - Major differences between US and Australia

    28:51 - Hiring a team for a new category that doesn’t exist yet

    33:10 - How investing in startups started

    36:45 - Process for getting to know a business from scratch

    40:26 - Dislocation of Valuations vs hype in valuations

    43:33 - How to say no with empathy

    48:17 - Transition from individual investor to a fund

    53:22 - Final sprint!


    Curiosity: Inside Character + Distinction & Protagonist Capital - Creating connection for your biz & investing in protagonists w Kate Dinon Apr 28, 2022
    Show notes

    Explore your curiosity w Kate Dinon about PR, communications and investment to scale startups.

    1. Learn about how Kate had her break into PR & Communications
    2. Building out her own firm Character & Distinction, based in Melbourne with a roster of recognisable brands.
    3. First few months of starting the firm, client relationships, bad story telling and displaying culture in their office space.
    4. Unpacking Kate’s foray into supporting startups through mentoring and investment via Protagonist Capital & what they're looking for in founders and early stage startups.
    5. Don’t miss out on a special rapid fire round with your community questions!

    Please enjoy exploring your curiosity as I did mine through this conversation!

    ***

    Find out more about Curiosity Center, including 75+ episodes at www.curiositycenter.xyz

    Find out more about Character + Distinction and Protagonist Capital at https://ofcharacter.com/

    Share your feedback and discuss partnership opportunities with us at vidit@curiositycenter.xyz

    Follow the show on Linkedin / Instagram

    ***

    TIMESTAMPS

    02:20 - Where you were born and live now

    03:02 - Do you remember the first time you heard of PR & Communications?

    04:16 - Was it a conscious decision to start your own PR firm?

    06:08 - What were the first months like in 2017 and unknowns?

    07:55 - Did you find building relationships was a focus moving back to Australia from Switzerland?

    10:31 - How does a client relationship work in practise?

    12:40 - How does a first client meeting work and what can PR help with?

    15:14 - What is bad story telling?

    17:22 - Are there high maintenance vs low maintenance industries?

    19:44 - What are your sources of learning and inspiration?

    22:17 - Importance of Character and distinction visible in their office space

    25:15 - Supporting startups through Protagonist Capital

    27:32 - What are you looking for in the deals? Specific sector or person to support?

    29:00 - Supporting founders in consumer facing brands and enterprise tech for future of work

    30:32 - Naming conventions for Protagonist and Character + Distinction

    32:29 - Rapid fire round of your community questions


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